I have a question for Christians...

How do you guys know that the people in the Bible were real people? Such as Peter and the rest of the disciples, and Paul. Is there proof that they were real people?

How do you guys know that the people in the Bible were real people? Such as Peter and the rest of the disciples, and Paul. Is there proof that they were real people?

hydralisk86

The bible is a guide for those without their own moral compass. It doesn't matter if the characters are real.

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How do you guys know that the people in the Bible were real people? Such as Peter and the rest of the disciples, and Paul. Is there proof that they were real people?

tenaka2

The bible is a guide for those without their own moral compass. It doesn't matter if the characters are real.

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[QUOTE="hydralisk86"]

How do you guys know that the people in the Bible were real people? Such as Peter and the rest of the disciples, and Paul. Is there proof that they were real people?

hydralisk86

The bible is a guide for those without their own moral compass. It doesn't matter if the characters are real.

You doubt that a moral compass lets people know what is right and what is wrong?

gonna leave this here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus#Existence_of_Jesus

I know you asked about Peter and what not, but existance of Jesus at least suggests that the other people in the stories were real people.

The bible is man's interpretation of what he feels that God wants to you live by. People living to be 800 in Genesis, etc. Not possible........ unless they were Highlanders. And only 2 people to start all of mankind? I guess we're all related and the genetic defects I suppose can be seen in certain areas of the country. I just don't believe that the bible was sent down from Heaven via email or fax. Man contrived this. . . However, don't think that I don't believe in God and Heaven, because I do, I'm just not a Christian because I don't believe in religion, but I do believe in being spiritual and doing the right things.

While I am an Atheist I believe Christianity to be a religion of hope. Most of my Christian friends Don't care if the characters were real, it just gives them hope that the afterlife will hold peace for them.

They signed their actual names at the end of everything they wrote, so of course they're real.ZumaJones07

But what they wrote is false.

How do you guys know that the people in the Bible were real people? Such as Peter and the rest of the disciples, and Paul. Is there proof that they were real people?

hydralisk86

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="hydralisk86"]

How do you guys know that the people in the Bible were real people? Such as Peter and the rest of the disciples, and Paul. Is there proof that they were real people?

hydralisk86

The bible is a guide for those without their own moral compass. It doesn't matter if the characters are real.

What people say they believe. Isn't that significant.

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How do you guys know that the people in the Bible were real people? Such as Peter and the rest of the disciples, and Paul. Is there proof that they were real people?

AmazonTreeBoa

Faith while obvioulsy means a lot to religious people means little to rational people.

They signed their actual names at the end of everything they wrote, so of course they're real.ZumaJones07

The evidence was passed through word of mouth. The desciples shared their stories and teachings, and those stories and teaching were passed on to others by those who heard them, then were eventually written down as the Gospels. There are also historical records which mention Jesus, so if he existed, it would be safe to assume they did as well.harashawn

[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]They signed their actual names at the end of everything they wrote, so of course they're real.tenaka2

But what they wrote is false.

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[QUOTE="hydralisk86"]

How do you guys know that the people in the Bible were real people? Such as Peter and the rest of the disciples, and Paul. Is there proof that they were real people?

tenaka2

Faith while obvioulsy means a lot to religious people means little to rational people.

[QUOTE="harashawn"]The evidence was passed through word of mouth. The desciples shared their stories and teachings, and those stories and teaching were passed on to others by those who heard them, then were eventually written down as the Gospels. There are also historical records which mention Jesus, so if he existed, it would be safe to assume they did as well.hydralisk86

[QUOTE="hydralisk86"]

How do you guys know that the people in the Bible were real people? Such as Peter and the rest of the disciples, and Paul. Is there proof that they were real people?

AmazonTreeBoa

Obviously, loaves and fishes, curing people etc. obviously false.

[QUOTE="harashawn"]The evidence was passed through word of mouth. The desciples shared their stories and teachings, and those stories and teaching were passed on to others by those who heard them, then were eventually written down as the Gospels. There are also historical records which mention Jesus, so if he existed, it would be safe to assume they did as well.hydralisk86

There is no evidence at all that jesus was a real man.

Obviously, loaves and fishes, curing people etc. obviously false.

tenaka2

[QUOTE="hydralisk86"][QUOTE="harashawn"]The evidence was passed through word of mouth. The desciples shared their stories and teachings, and those stories and teaching were passed on to others by those who heard them, then were eventually written down as the Gospels. There are also historical records which mention Jesus, so if he existed, it would be safe to assume they did as well.tenaka2

There is no evidence at all that jesus was a real man.

How do you guys know that the people in the Bible were real people? Such as Peter and the rest of the disciples, and Paul. Is there proof that they were real people?

hydralisk86

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[QUOTE="hydralisk86"] The reason i posted this thread was because i wanted more information about the 12 disciples. I did read that Jesus was a real man, however, i found nothing in the 3 books i read about the apostles being real. I think I remember somewhere that James, the brother of Jesus, was killed, but beyond that, i do not know any evidence about Peter, Thomas, etc.LJS9502_basic

There is no evidence at all that jesus was a real man.

yes there is

If the crucifixion took place, it would have been in about 29CE. The four gospels were written no earlier than the period 70 to 90CE and were based on stories previously published using only a combination of the tongue and memory: a classic case of hearsay upon hearsay.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Obviously, loaves and fishes, curing people etc. obviously false.

LJS9502_basic

Obviously, loaves and fishes, curing people etc. obviously false.

tenaka2

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

There is no evidence at all that jesus was a real man.

tenaka2

yes there is

If the crucifixion took place, it would have been in about 29CE. The four gospels were written no earlier than the period 70 to 90CE and were based on stories previously published using only a combination of the tongue and memory: a classic case of hearsay upon hearsay.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Obviously, loaves and fishes, curing people etc. obviously false.

ToppledPillars

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[QUOTE="hydralisk86"] The reason i posted this thread was because i wanted more information about the 12 disciples. I did read that Jesus was a real man, however, i found nothing in the 3 books i read about the apostles being real. I think I remember somewhere that James, the brother of Jesus, was killed, but beyond that, i do not know any evidence about Peter, Thomas, etc.LJS9502_basic

There is no evidence at all that jesus was a real man.

Historically there isn't much evidence at all, aside from the Bible and the disputed writings of a couple of later historians. As far as I can tell most historical scholars that are all in agreement about his existence are religiously inclined in the first place.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Historically there isn't much disagreement about his existence.....LJS9502_basic

yes there is

If the crucifixion took place, it would have been in about 29CE. The four gospels were written no earlier than the period 70 to 90CE and were based on stories previously published using only a combination of the tongue and memory: a classic case of hearsay upon hearsay.

It the lack of existance, there is no evidence at all that Jesus existed, apart from 70 year 2nd gen exploits, worth nothing.

what i believe is that, the real bible is hidden and what everyone reads is abuse in my opinion.. god doesnt come to earth and has sex with a girl wth...DarkFadi

I would like to think that it doesn't matter if everything in the Bible is literally true....that's not the point.

It's meant to teach you how to live a better and happier life

[QUOTE="DarkFadi"]what i believe is that, the real bible is hidden and what everyone reads is abuse in my opinion.. god doesnt come to earth and has sex with a girl wth...LJS9502_basic

Well when it clams that a virgin woman somehow became pregnant with the son of God through the Holy Spirit you really shouldn't be surprised when people interpret it like that.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="DarkFadi"]what i believe is that, the real bible is hidden and what everyone reads is abuse in my opinion.. god doesnt come to earth and has sex with a girl wth...worlock77

Well when it clams that a virgin woman somehow became pregnant with the son of God through the Holy Spirit you really shouldn't be surprised when people interpret it like that.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="DarkFadi"]what i believe is that, the real bible is hidden and what everyone reads is abuse in my opinion.. god doesnt come to earth and has sex with a girl wth...worlock77

Well when it clams that a virgin woman somehow became pregnant with the son of God through the Holy Spirit you really shouldn't be surprised when people interpret it like that.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] The Bible doesn't say God came to earth and had sex with a girl.:?LJS9502_basic

Well when it clams that a virgin woman somehow became pregnant with the son of God through the Holy Spirit you really shouldn't be surprised when people interpret it like that.

You love being pedantic don't you?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Well when it clams that a virgin woman somehow became pregnant with the son of God through the Holy Spirit you really shouldn't be surprised when people interpret it like that.

worlock77

You love being pedantic don't you?

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I can't see that being a good interpretation...unless one is assuming more than the words say. Particularly since the Bible does mention virgin birth.LJS9502_basic

You love being pedantic don't you?

He presented his interpretation of the texts. Just like everyone else has been doing for the past 2,000 years.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

You love being pedantic don't you?

worlock77

He presented his interpretation of the texts. Just like everyone else has been doing for the past 2,000 years.