I have a question for Christians...

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="DarkFadi"] The Bible doesn't say God came to earth and had sex with a girl.:?worlock77

Well when it clams that a virgin woman somehow became pregnant with the son of God through the Holy Spirit you really shouldn't be surprised when people interpret it like that.

EDIT: alot of my post disapeared... -.- not cool lol

[QUOTE="weezyfb"]many people in the bible probably did not exist ie adam and eveVinegar_Strokes

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[QUOTE="Stavrogin_"]

Isaiah 40:22- It is He who sits above the circle of the earth

LJS9502_basic

"He (God) sits enthroned above the circle of the earth." Isaiah 40:22

This passage from Isaiah was written approximately 2,750 years ago, nearly 750 years before Christ. The word for circle in Hebrew is khug which means to be made spherical, which is in total agreement with what we know of the Earth's shape today.

Interesting what one can find on the internet....

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Well when it clams that a virgin woman somehow became pregnant with the son of God through the Holy Spirit you really shouldn't be surprised when people interpret it like that.

If the earth is spherical that would make the part with the tent impossible. Also, how is it possible to see the whole Earth from the highest mountain if it's spherical?Stavrogin_

[QUOTE="hydralisk86"]

How do you guys know that the people in the Bible were real people? Such as Peter and the rest of the disciples, and Paul. Is there proof that they were real people?

AmazonTreeBoa

FAITH did not help the parents who decided to pray for their diabetic daughter to get better instead of seeking professional medical help.

What did faith bring to those parents? One less daughter. lol

[QUOTE="Stavrogin_"]If the earth is spherical that would make the part with the tent impossible. Also, how is it possible to see the whole Earth from the highest mountain if it's spherical?LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] Still a generalization, dude..........scorch-62

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[QUOTE="Stavrogin_"]If the earth is spherical that would make the part with the tent impossible. Also, how is it possible to see the whole Earth from the highest mountain if it's spherical?Stavrogin_

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[QUOTE="Stavrogin_"]If the earth is spherical that would make the part with the tent impossible. Also, how is it possible to see the whole Earth from the highest mountain if it's spherical?Stavrogin_

[QUOTE="weezyfb"]many people in the bible probably did not exist ie adam and eveVinegar_Strokes

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"] "Four corners of the Earth" (to take an example) is an English phrase. Do you know for certain that this is an EXACT translation, and not just an approximation?

"He (God) sits enthroned above the circle of the earth." Isaiah 40:22

This passage from Isaiah was written approximately 2,750 years ago, nearly 750 years before Christ. The word for circle in Hebrew is khug which means to be made spherical, which is in total agreement with what we know of the Earth's shape today.

Interesting what one can find on the internet....

[QUOTE="weezyfb"]many people in the bible probably did not exist ie adam and eveVinegar_Strokes

But my favorite bible verse is in genesis. :(

[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"][QUOTE="weezyfb"]many people in the bible probably did not exist ie adam and eveOrkHammer007

Not really. In fact thinking so is a pretty gross misinterpretation of the science. "Mitochondrial Eve" is simply the most recent common female ancestor for all humans currently alive. I really wish they would have named her something else as that name generates a lot of confusion.

[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"][QUOTE="weezyfb"]many people in the bible probably did not exist ie adam and eveTheHighWind

But my favorite bible verse is in genesis. :(

And nothing you posted doesn't change the fact that in an advanced future what we consider cutting edge could be considered primative.....and they still use leeches today by the way.

LJS9502_basic

The Bible is God's Word and is thus inerrant- that is, it is perfect. Further, history supports the actual existence of Biblical figures.

[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]No actually a generalization is when one applies a principle to a large group. Speaking about what I've noticed is not a generalization. It's what I've noticed. And I CLEARLY stated that in my post.:|LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Stavrogin_"]You know very well. If the bible says the earth is spherical rather then a circle (like a pancake) then the second part about the tent is just not possible. It is however totally possible and likely if the Earth is flat. And i'll ask again, how is it possible to see the whole Earth from the highest mountain if it's spherical?

LJS9502_basic

" and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world," All the kingdoms of the world; all the kingdoms of the world that were known to at the time. It is important to take into account historical context. Not nearly as much of the world was known at that time as it is now. It is also important to take into account hermeneutics; to interpret the passage. Did Satan actually take Jesus to the tope of the highest mountain in the world and show him all the kingdoms of the world? Was Jesus taken to the top of the highest known mountain to see all the known kingdoms in the world? Was it simply a parable written to show the reader/audience some of Jesus' teachings? All these ideas must be taken into account when studying the Bible.harashawn

All these ideas must be taken into account when studying the Bible.harashawn

The Bible is God's Word and is thus inerrant- that is, it is perfect. Further, history supports the actual existence of Biblical figures.

MathMattS

If the Bible really is the inerrant, infallable word of God then why has there been some much contention over even the canon of the Bible?

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[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"]surely nobody can believe the adam and eve story. or noahs ark for that matter. worlock77

Not really. In fact thinking so is a pretty gross misinterpretation of the science. "Mitochondrial Eve" is simply the most recent common female ancestor for all humans currently alive. I really wish they would have named her something else as that name generates a lot of confusion.

Also, note that I said "sort of," not definitively. Big difference in meaning. ;)

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[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]Actually, science has sort of proved Eve. :D

OrkHammer007

Not really. In fact thinking so is a pretty gross misinterpretation of the science. "Mitochondrial Eve" is simply the most recent common female ancestor for all humans currently alive. I really wish they would have named her something else as that name generates a lot of confusion.

Also, note that I said "sort of," not definitively. Big difference in meaning. ;)

Yes, I noticed full and well that you said "sort of". And no, it has not even "sort of" proved Eve.

It's all faith to Christians. Noah's Ark is an example. Any logical person knows that Noah's ark could never happen. Yet Christians blame it on faith and cherry pick which parts of the story they want to use because they know it's blasphemy.

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"] "Four corners of the Earth" (to take an example) is an English phrase. Do you know for certain that this is an EXACT translation, and not just an approximation?Stavrogin_

How do you guys know that the people in the Bible were real people? Such as Peter and the rest of the disciples, and Paul. Is there proof that they were real people?

hydralisk86

The bible is somewhat of a good historical document(as far as the "old testament" goes that is) but at the same time, a lot of it's stories are akin to Aesop's Fables

It's all faith to Christians. Noah's Ark is an example. Any logical person knows that Noah's ark could never happen. Yet Christians blame it on faith and cherry pick which parts of the story they want to use because they know it's blasphemy.

Ikouze

A flood could not happen? Noah's Ark was a story about a flood whereas Noah and his family and some of their livestock were saved by his being warned to build the ark. While I'm rough on the Hebrew measurements...but it wasn't a small boat.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]A flood could not happen? Noah's Ark was a story about a flood whereas Noah and his family and some of their livestock were saved by his being warned to build the ark. While I'm rough on the Hebrew measurements...but it wasn't a small boat.Blaminator1221

Eh...you have to understand the limitations of the people back then wouldn't know all the creatures.LJS9502_basic