I never quite understood the "some animals are also g@y so its OK to be gay

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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

I just provided you counterproof a few posts up.

GummiRaccoon

Actually you didn't. Anecdotes aren't proof, but if you want to use them then I'll add that every gay person I've known (and I've known quite a bit) had straight parents. And every person I've known who was raised by gay parents (again, I've known a few) turned out to be straight.

Which is what they want you to believe.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Which is what they want you to believe.

GummiRaccoon

Don't tell me you're stupid enough to believe that only gay people carry the "gay gene" (assuming that it is in fact genetic).

What are recessive traits?

You didn't answer the question.

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Can you prove that your dogs testicles were intended to be cut off?

RandoIphF

[QUOTE="RandoIphF"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] Not the point. But really now. The anus was never intended for sex no matter how you try and spin it.Murderstyle75

It can be as harmful as any other kind of sex when not done properly.

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

Religious reasons are unacceptable now.  Ok then.. moving along.  

RandoIphF

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="RandoIphF"] The mouth is also not "intended" for sexual pleasure, doesn't stop oral sex from being eyes rolling in the back of my head fantastic, does it?worlock77

It can be as harmful as any other kind of sex when not done properly.

[QUOTE="RandoIphF"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] Not the point. But really now. The anus was never intended for sex no matter how you try and spin it.Murderstyle75

[QUOTE="RandoIphF"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] Yep because people are supposed to shove their faith aside in the name of being politically correct.Murderstyle75

Bolded: Because that would be pandering to stupidity.  

[QUOTE="RandoIphF"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] Yep because people are supposed to shove their faith aside in the name of being politically correct.Murderstyle75

How would you like it if people did that to you?

[QUOTE="RandoIphF"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] Yep because people are supposed to shove their faith aside in the name of being politically correct.Murderstyle75

Freedom of religion also means freedom from someone else's religion. Understanding that you live in a society where people who hold views and lifestyles you may dissapprove of personally does not interfere with your ability to freely practive your religion. However asserting your religion into law does interfere with someone else's right to life their lifestyle freely.

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Don't tell me you're stupid enough to believe that only gay people carry the "gay gene" (assuming that it is in fact genetic).

worlock77

What are recessive traits?

You didn't answer the question.

There was no question corky.

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="RandoIphF"] Can their not be a middle ground between "shoving their faith aside" and "shoving their faith on everyone else through the law"?? Why does it absolutely always have to be one or the other?PannicAtack

Gays, by existing, apparently.

[QUOTE="RandoIphF"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] Yep because people are supposed to shove their faith aside in the name of being politically correct.Murderstyle75

Have you eaten shrimp lately or put on clothes with more than one type of fabric?

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="RandoIphF"] Can their not be a middle ground between "shoving their faith aside" and "shoving their faith on everyone else through the law"?? Why does it absolutely always have to be one or the other?toast_burner

How would you like it if people did that to you?

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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] But for people who have faith, homosexuality is an abomination. Its been that way for millenniums. But in the 21st century, there is supposed to be some kind of middle ground? Why should they have to settle in the name of modern day American political views? Why should they be forced to accept homosexuals when their bible readings say god will crush the whole soceity? Not saying I fully agree but I also dont agree with interfering with ones faith. Freedom of religion is what this country was founded on and is why everybody left Europe to begin with.Murderstyle75

How would you like it if people did that to you?

You also didn't address anything that I said. Whether gays get married or not has no effect on you, so why should you have a say on if they can marry or not?

Ahh traditional marriage. Where whites can only marry whites, blacks can only marry blacks, and fathers sold their daughters to their new husbands. Gotta love it.Ring_of_fire

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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] But for people who have faith, homosexuality is an abomination. Its been that way for millenniums. But in the 21st century, there is supposed to be some kind of middle ground? Why should they have to settle in the name of modern day American political views? Why should they be forced to accept homosexuals when their bible readings say god will crush the whole soceity? Not saying I fully agree but I also dont agree with interfering with ones faith. Freedom of religion is what this country was founded on and is why everybody left Europe to begin with.Murderstyle75

How would you like it if people did that to you?

Well if marriage has had a changing definition its enitre existence then why not just change it once more?

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Ahh traditional marriage. Where whites can only marry whites, blacks can only marry blacks, and fathers sold their daughters to their new husbands. Gotta love it.Aljosa23

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]Nobody is forcing them to accept it. They just shouldn't be allowed to take away someones rights because they don't like them.

How would you like it if people did that to you?

GummiRaccoon

Well if marriage has had a changing definition its enitre existence then why not just change it once more?

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

What are recessive traits?

GummiRaccoon

You didn't answer the question.

There was no question corky.

You're right, my bad. I forgot to put a question mark. Regardless, question or statement, you didn't address it.

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[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Ahh traditional marriage. Where whites can only marry whites, blacks can only marry blacks, and fathers sold their daughters to their new husbands. Gotta love it.Ring_of_fire

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] Right to what? Do homosexuals even know what marriage is or its origins? And it fidnt even become about Love until the Roman Catholic Church got invloved. Its never had anything to do with same sex until modern America wanted to interfere. But even then. What do homosexuals benefit from marriage besides financial things like shared healthcare and survivor benefits? If they want that? Give it to them but to call it marriage is a farce.Murderstyle75

Well if marriage has had a changing definition its enitre existence then why not just change it once more?

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] But for people who have faith, homosexuality is an abomination. Its been that way for millenniums. But in the 21st century, there is supposed to be some kind of middle ground? Why should they have to settle in the name of modern day American political views? Why should they be forced to accept homosexuals when their bible readings say god will crush the whole soceity? Not saying I fully agree but I also dont agree with interfering with ones faith. Freedom of religion is what this country was founded on and is why everybody left Europe to begin with.Murderstyle75

How would you like it if people did that to you?

You are an idiot.

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Well if marriage has had a changing definition its enitre existence then why not just change it once more?

toast_burner

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] Right to what? Do homosexuals even know what marriage is or its origins? And it fidnt even become about Love until the Roman Catholic Church got invloved. Its never had anything to do with same sex until modern America wanted to interfere. But even then. What do homosexuals benefit from marriage besides financial things like shared healthcare and survivor benefits? If they want that? Give it to them but to call it marriage is a farce.Murderstyle75

Well if marriage has had a changing definition its enitre existence then why not just change it once more?

Motherf*cking lol. You really are clueless about marriage and its history.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] But why would homosexuals want to be part of a club that was never intended for them to begin with? Regardless of the definition change, it has always meant 1 man, 1 woman for thousands upon thousands of years. This happened long before religion was ever a part of it.Murderstyle75

wait a minute...

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] But why would homosexuals want to be part of a club that was never intended for them to begin with? Regardless of the definition change, it has always meant 1 man, 1 woman for thousands upon thousands of years. This happened long before religion was ever a part of it.Murderstyle75

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Well if marriage has had a changing definition its enitre existence then why not just change it once more?

worlock77

Motherf*cking lol. You really are clueless about marriage and its history.

Murderstyle75 what are your opinions on divorce?

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]what club are you talking about?

Aljosa23

wait a minute...

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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] The marriage club which primary purpose was to bind women to men, and thus guarantee that a mans children were truly his biological heirs.Murderstyle75

wait a minute...

But why does the history of marriage matter? We are in 2013 not 713 AD. Why is blindly sticking to the definition of "traditional marriage" (even though it ignores all the negatives associated with it) a good thing? Ring_of_fire

Murderstyle75 what are your opinions on divorce?

Aljosa23

But why does the history of marriage matter? We are in 2013 not 713 AD. Why is blindly sticking to the definition of "traditional marriage" (even though it ignores all the negatives associated with it) a good thing? Ring_of_fire

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]But why does the history of marriage matter? We are in 2013 not 713 AD. Why is blindly sticking to the definition of "traditional marriage" (even though it ignores all the negatives associated with it) a good thing? Murderstyle75

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]But why does the history of marriage matter? We are in 2013 not 713 AD. Why is blindly sticking to the definition of "traditional marriage" (even though it ignores all the negatives associated with it) a good thing? Aljosa23

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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] But why would homosexuals want to be part of a club that was never intended for them to begin with? Regardless of the definition change, it has always meant 1 man, 1 woman for thousands upon thousands of years. This happened long before religion was ever a part of it.Murderstyle75

Motherf*cking lol. You really are clueless about marriage and its history.

No need to. The fact that you think marriage has been 1 man/1 woman for thousands of years says it all.

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]But why does the history of marriage matter? We are in 2013 not 713 AD. Why is blindly sticking to the definition of "traditional marriage" (even though it ignores all the negatives associated with it) a good thing? Murderstyle75

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]But why does the history of marriage matter? We are in 2013 not 713 AD. Why is blindly sticking to the definition of "traditional marriage" (even though it ignores all the negatives associated with it) a good thing? Rich3232

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] Right to what? Do homosexuals even know what marriage is or its origins? And it fidnt even become about Love until the Roman Catholic Church got invloved. Its never had anything to do with same sex until modern America wanted to interfere. But even then. What do homosexuals benefit from marriage besides financial things like shared healthcare and survivor benefits? If they want that? Give it to them but to call it marriage is a farce.Murderstyle75

Well if marriage has had a changing definition its enitre existence then why not just change it once more?

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]But why does the history of marriage matter? We are in 2013 not 713 AD. Why is blindly sticking to the definition of "traditional marriage" (even though it ignores all the negatives associated with it) a good thing? Murderstyle75

[QUOTE="Rich3232"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] Because 2013 wants to change almost every tradition known to man.Murderstyle75