I really don't get religions' view on ..

Love your neighbor is just advice for living, but the bible never specifically prophesized that homosexuals would become so accepted, even popular! It's so trendy to be gay nowadays! :o

Persecuted_1

The very next verse. I read it. I continues what the first one said basically.

No. Read the discussion I had with Funky.

Here's this DS thing again. What's the deal? You said it earlier in this very thread. Or it might have been someone else, but I know I saw in this very thread someone say that the Catholic church doesn't feel that being homosexual is a sin.

It wasn't me. I haven't stated my denominational position once in this thread. As for the "DS" stuff, I suspect you're the alternate account of another user with the initials "DS." You post almost exactly the same way as he does, and even your screen name reflects his. . . . .unique personality.

Too much pressure?

From what?

You wanted to avoid the persecution of your family and peers;

People who persecute homosexuals typically do the same to Catholics, so if it's going to be a lose-lose for me anyway why wouldn't I choose a pro-gay denomination?

the same perscution that you pile on top of me in heaping mounds?

"Persecution," huh? Let's see what persecution is:

A program or campaign to subjugate or eliminate a specific group of people, often based on race, religion, sexuality, or social beliefs

to be badly treated, oppressed or harassed usually because of beliefs, gender, race, religion or sexual orientation

To harass or punish in a manner designed to injure, grieve, or afflict; specifically : to cause to suffer because of belief

I haven't said anything about your beliefs in here aside from the fact that you resemble the thinking of a Christian fundie. You, however, have said several things about my beliefs. Who's more "persecuted"?

Being book smart does not equate to being talented, in the same areas of study. Don't fool yourself that by thinking a good grade justifies you as some certified genius.

Do two Associate degrees in theology and philosophy count?

I consider myself agnostic. I'm only trying to make points to you.

No you're not. If you were, you would stand corrected when corrected. You're uncomfortable with the relationship between homosexuality and religion and blame religion for it all, even though I, a homosexual, do not, and have no problems with it. You are, quite simply, trying to get me to find a problem with my religion where none exists.

Nothing was out of context. The next verse just says that some of you were that way, and when they came to Christ, he washed them of their sins.

Ta-da! He gets it!

One of those sins is being homosexual. You have not come to Christ to have him wash your homosexuality away. Because that's impossible.

*Flattens again*

First, there's no conclusive evidence to say it is impossible.Second, you aren't getting the meaning of "washing away sins." It doesn't mean you will never sin again.

So, God makes you gay and says that gays can't go to heaven unless they repent for being gay

Faulty assumption that has been shown to be incorrect on both counts: God didn't make me gay nor are gays exempt from Heaven.

Well, that's stupid because first off, no one should have to repent for something they had no control over, and second, you couldn't change or repent for being homosexual anyway, because it's in your DNA code.

No it isn't. There's no gay gene. It's caused by hormones.

In short, you're screwed, and you got screwed by the very God whom you seem to have undying adoration for.

Would I have undying adoration for God if I believed I was screwed?:lol:

Persecuted_1

You are under the oh-so-false impression that I am either ignorant of my own beliefs or that I simply have never heard these objections before. I am not, and I have. I hear the objections all the time,from atheists just as often as Christians, and they are both just as difficult to correct.

You know what else in never mentioned in the bible? Lots of stuff. Including the modern rise to mainstream acceptance by homosexuals. I guess since it's not in the bible, gays were never supposed to have become so accepted! :o

Persecuted_1

Perhaps, perhaps not. Like I said later (still not reading the whole topic, I see), it's just what I think. I think sex will seem pathetically trivial in Heaven.

Homosexuality..

I mean like christianity , judaism and islam says you have to have sex while marriage only for reproduction and pleasure.
but homosexuals can't have sex with the oppisate sex so they can't have sex their whole life?
doesnt make sense.. how can somebody take the blame for something nobody has no control of

thats not fair at all.

edit : added no before control sorry my mistake

FFseries_Fan

[QUOTE="Persecuted_1"]

Love your neighbor is just advice for living, but the bible never specifically prophesized that homosexuals would become so accepted, even popular! It's so trendy to be gay nowadays! :o

LJS9502_basic

In before "but not everyone lives next to my house!"

[QUOTE="Persecuted_1"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

What kind of an answer is that? :?

LJS9502_basic

*sigh* You can't declare you beliefs immune to criticism simply because they're beliefs. Unless you're admitting that you don't have a justification for them, and which case why the hell hold that belief in the first place?

OWNAGE to the max. Exactly to the point. Why believe in something you can't justify? Ha ha.

And DS loves to use the words owned and ownage....

Ah, so DS is a person on this website? Why do you keep accusing me of being him/her though? Because I say a few words that he/she might have said? Really, that's your justification? I'm glad you're not a judge or a lwayer, that's for sure.

I noticed that Funky_Llama kind of types like me. Does that mean he's an alt of me too? Or an alt of this DS person? Even you and I, LJS9502, are both fairly good spellers and construct whole sentences fairly easily. I guess we could be alts?

Ah, so DS is a person on this website? Why do you keep accusing me of being him/her though? Because I say a few words that he/she might have said? Really, that's your justification? I'm glad you're not a judge or a lwayer, that's for sure.

I noticed that Funky_Llama kind of types like me. Does that mean he's an alt of me too? Or an alt of this DS person? Even you and I, LJS9502, are both fairly good spellers and construct whole sentences fairly easily. I guess we could be alts?

Persecuted_1

Ah, the definite smell of DS's bull. You take a particular liking to griping about LJS9502_basic. You consider yourself persecuted and play that card whenever corrected in a debate. You even use the same reasons for leaving a debate, though I'm willing to cut that up to chance.

If you're not him, I would be very surprised. Let's just go with that.

Ah religious threads, where everybody flames eachother instead of debates and homosexuality is a hellspawn bent on destroying humans everywhere.

*sits back and eats popcorn*

Ah religious threads, where everybody flames eachother instead of debates and homosexuality is a hellspawn bent on destroying humans everywhere.

*sits back and eats popcorn*

-Jiggles-

Well, it is true that gay people live in underground bases while plotting world domination, but that's best left to another topic.

Can I have some popcorn?:D

[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

Ah religious threads, where everybody flames eachother instead of debates and homosexuality is a hellspawn bent on destroying humans everywhere.

*sits back and eats popcorn*

Theokhoth

Well, it is true that gay people live in underground bases while plotting world domination, but that's best left to another topic.

Can I have some popcorn?:D

*hands over popcorn*

Yeah, let's just forget about the evil gay agenda for now. :D

Yeah, you got owned. Admit it.

Ah, so DS is a person on this website? Why do you keep accusing me of being him/her though? Because I say a few words that he/she might have said? Really, that's your justification? I'm glad you're not a judge or a lwayer, that's for sure.

I noticed that Funky_Llama kind of types like me. Does that mean he's an alt of me too? Or an alt of this DS person? Even you and I, LJS9502, are both fairly good spellers and construct whole sentences fairly easily. I guess we could be alts?

Persecuted_1

Theokhoth, why do you keep doing this colored text stuff? Can't you quote? This is annoying.

No. Read the discussion I had with Funky. Theokhoth

I did.

It wasn't me. I haven't stated my denominational position once in this thread. As for the "DS" stuff, I suspect you're the alternate account of another user with the initials "DS." You post almost exactly the same way as he does, and even your screen name reflects his. . . . .unique personality. Theokhoth

Umm well, I post almost exactly like him? Almost? Ok. You know, I've posted on the internet for almost a decade now,a nd I can tell you that many people have the same way of typing. I don't know, maybe it's the effect of an American education coming to the surface?

People who persecute homosexuals typically do the same to Catholics, so if it's going to be a lose-lose for me anyway why wouldn't I choose a pro-gay denomination? Theokhoth

I don't know, you tell me. Things like this are why you don't make sense to me. If you're christian and gay then why would you choose a demoniation that tells you that half of you is wrong?

Do two Associate degrees in theology and philosophy count? Theokhoth

No. Same reason. You studied and memorized. Good for you. I can do that too, and I have. Am I special now?

No you're not. If you were, you would stand corrected when corrected. You're uncomfortable with the relationship between homosexuality and religion and blame religion for it all, even though I, a homosexual, do not, and have no problems with it. You are, quite simply, trying to get me to find a problem with my religion where none exists. Theokhoth

Now you're telling me I'm not agnostic? Ha ha! Ok sir. ANd you follow that up with all this crap about being uncomfortable when that's not the case. Has nothing to do with comfort. I'm only trying to shed light on the flaws in some reasoning that has been displayed here.

Faulty assumption that has been shown to be incorrect on both counts: God didn't make me gay nor are gays exempt from Heaven. Theokhoth

God made everything, right? You are part of everything, so God made you. You're gay So that means God made you gay It's simple logic, Mr. I Got Two Degrees. And again, that verse states clearly that gays will not inherit the kingdom of God/Heaven.

No it isn't. There's no gay gene. It's caused by hormones. Theokhoth

Even if that's the case, it still isn't your fault. Why repent?

Would I have undying adoration for God if I believed I was screwed?:lol:

Theokhoth

Same thing I was wondering.

[QUOTE="Persecuted_1"]

Ah, so DS is a person on this website? Why do you keep accusing me of being him/her though? Because I say a few words that he/she might have said? Really, that's your justification? I'm glad you're not a judge or a lwayer, that's for sure.

I noticed that Funky_Llama kind of types like me. Does that mean he's an alt of me too? Or an alt of this DS person? Even you and I, LJS9502, are both fairly good spellers and construct whole sentences fairly easily. I guess we could be alts?

Theokhoth

Ah, the definite smell of DS's bull. You take a particular liking to griping about LJS9502_basic. You consider yourself persecuted and play that card whenever corrected in a debate. You even use the same reasons for leaving a debate, though I'm willing to cut that up to chance.

If you're not him, I would be very surprised. Let's just go with that.

From what I've seen of LJS9502, it seems like he could bring that out of anyone.

Now this thing about this DS is getting old, so if you want to keep saying it, I guess whatever makes you happy. I'm moving on. Another thing, I don't know if you guys are just noobs to the web or what, but people saying they're logging off to eat has been happening since the beginning of forum technology. I've seen it being said at least, I don't know, maybe 45,382,224,482,957,334 times.

[QUOTE="FFseries_Fan"]

Homosexuality..

I mean like christianity , judaism and islam says you have to have sex while marriage only for reproduction and pleasure.
but homosexuals can't have sex with the oppisate sex so they can't have sex their whole life?
doesnt make sense.. how can somebody take the blame for something nobody has control of

thats not fair at all.

Theokhoth

Homosexuals have no control over their attractions, but they do have control over how they use them. It's just how it goes. Everybody has to give up something, and sex is what homosexuals have to give up.

Why oh why would someone give THAT up?

From what I've seen of LJS9502, it seems like he could bring that out of anyone.

Persecuted_1

More of the same and I'm not doing these arguments with you anymore. It's pointless...

It's not the disagreeing. It's the snotty attitude that goes along with it. I'm only using what I can sense, but you seem like the person who likes to hover over a conversation and only strike when you see a weak point in someone, just so you can make them feel bad. Internet vulture.

Persecuted_1

And why has it become your ambition to put down Theo for Christian beliefs? Christianity does not condemn homosexuals.

Theokhoth, why do you keep doing this colored text stuff? Can't you quote? This is annoying.

No. Whenever I try, I get a GameSpot error. Sorry.

Umm well, I post almost exactly like him? Almost? Ok. You know, I've posted on the internet for almost a decade now,a nd I can tell you that many people have the same way of typing. I don't know, maybe it's the effect of an American education coming to the surface?

Education? Maybe you really aren't DS. . . . .

I don't know, you tell me. Things like this are why you don't make sense to me. If you're christian and gay then why would you choose a demoniation that tells you that half of you is wrong?

Because I would believe that denomination to be right?;)

I'm non-denominational, by the way. At least for now.

No. Same reason. You studied and memorized. Good for you. I can do that too, and I have. Am I special now?

Depends on what paper you have hanging on the wall. Did you do it for three years? Have you written dissertations and presentations on the matter? Or is your experience limited to arguing over the Interne?

Now you're telling me I'm not agnostic?

No, I'm telling you you're not "simply trying to make a point." Another character of DS: he couldn't comprehend simple context, either.

Ha ha! Ok sir. ANd you follow that up with all this crap about being uncomfortable when that's not the case. Has nothing to do with comfort. I'm only trying to shed light on the flaws in some reasoning that has been displayed here.

Where the flaws exist in your own reasoning.

God made everything, right?

Not necessarily. I never saw a Bible verse that said He did. . . . .the Earth, universe and life, yes, but everything?

You are part of everything, so God made you.

My soul.

You're gay So that means God made you gay

Only if my soul is gay.

It's simple logic, Mr. I Got Two Degrees.

It's simple logic, Mister "I don't need no education to correct the professionals."

And again, that verse states clearly that gays will not inherit the kingdom of God/Heaven.

And again, Salvation is not wittheld from any person.

Even if that's the case, it still isn't your fault. Why repent?

Why indeed? I've never had sex.

Same thing I was wondering.

Because I DON'T BELIEVE I'M SCREWED. Get it yet?

Persecuted_1

[QUOTE="Persecuted_1"]

It's not the disagreeing. It's the snotty attitude that goes along with it. I'm only using what I can sense, but you seem like the person who likes to hover over a conversation and only strike when you see a weak point in someone, just so you can make them feel bad. Internet vulture.

LJS9502_basic

And why has it become your ambition to put down Theo for Christian beliefs? Christianity does not condemn homosexuals.

You just said you were done arguing with me and then you respond to me.

This post made no sense. I look for a thread that I was posting in to see if there had been any replies. There was. I replied to the replies. I don't see what you're complaining about.

I'm not putting Theokhoth down. I'm tyrying to show him the error in his ways, and I'm not speaking of being homosexual or christian, but the confusion of combining both the love of God with the condemnation from the same God who frowns on homosexuals. Also his obvious misinterpretation of a bible verse that made it clear that homosexuals can not go to heaven.

Why oh why would someone give THAT up?

totalmachine

Maybe because they recognise that there are more important things?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Persecuted_1"]

It's not the disagreeing. It's the snotty attitude that goes along with it. I'm only using what I can sense, but you seem like the person who likes to hover over a conversation and only strike when you see a weak point in someone, just so you can make them feel bad. Internet vulture.

Persecuted_1

And why has it become your ambition to put down Theo for Christian beliefs? Christianity does not condemn homosexuals.

You just said you were done arguing with me and then you respond to me.

Merely making a correction....

This post made no sense. I look for a thread that I was posting in to see if there had been any replies. There was. I replied to the replies. I don't see what you're complaining about.

It went to your vulture comment....as I didn't bump an old thread.;)

I'm not putting Theokhoth down. I'm tyrying to show him the error in his ways, and I'm not speaking of being homosexual or christian, but the confusion of combining both the love of God with the condemnation from the same God who frowns on homosexuals. Also his obvious misinterpretation of a bible verse that made it clear that homosexuals can not go to heaven.

The error of his ways....or the fact that he isn't bending to your will?

God told you he frowns on homosexuals? Jesus was the Son of God...aka God. I don't recall Him saying that. I explained that pages ago. You are not condemned for "being". Only actions can condemn you.....and homosexuality is actually not treated any harsher than premarital sex and various other sins in the Bible.

DS if that it is you, jeez, just let it go, or at least debate under one guise.

On forgiveness:

Luke 24:47

Acts 10:43

1 John 2:12

Acts 4:12

Isaiah 40:11;42:3;53:4;63:7-9

Matthew 8:3,16,17;9:36

No. Whenever I try, I get a GameSpot error. Sorry. Theokhoth

It's Gamespot's fault that you haven't learned HTML?

Education? Maybe you really aren't DS. . . . . Theokhoth

Again, I have no clue what you mean.

Depends on what paper you have hanging on the wall. Did you do it for three years? Have you written dissertations and presentations on the matter? Or is your experience limited to arguing over the Interne? Theokhoth

You didn't understand me. It doesn't matter if you have 10 5-year degrees hanging on your wall. All that shows is that you went through the process, and memorized just enough to make the grade. It doesn't reflect actual talent or technical proficiency within the given field.

No, I'm telling you you're not "simply trying to make a point." Another character of DS: he couldn't comprehend simple context, either. Theokhoth

You tell me that you believe I may not be him, now you're going back to thinking I'm him? I don't think you really have a degree in Philosophy. You're too wishy-washy.

Not necessarily. I never saw a Bible verse that said He did. . . . .the Earth, universe and life, yes, but everything? Theokhoth

If God didn't make us, then who did? Your parents? And who made them? And so on. It all traces back to whatever was first, if anything, right?

It's simple logic, Mister "I don't need no education to correct the professionals." Theokhoth

I have education. By the way, "professionalism" is an illusion of human society. It's a way people pat themselves on the back and convince themselves they've accomplished something great, when it's really insignificant in the big picture.

And again, Salvation is not wittheld from any person. Theokhoth

Again! That verse says otherwise. Brother please, denial is not healthy.

Why indeed? I've never had sex. Theokhoth

Have you ever masturbated? Or used your hand on another guy?

DS if that it is you, jeez, just let it go, or at least debate under one guise.

MetalGear_Ninty

Oh my stars. I never would have thought in a million years that when I signed up for this website that a whole gang of people would be accusing me of being someone else. This DS guy must be fairly influential or popular if he's on everyone's minds. You guys are worrying me. Maybe I should have just stuck to IGN and 1up, where people are not so paranoid.

It's Gamespot's fault that you haven't learned HTML?

It's GameSpot's fault that I receive an error whenever I try to perform a simple task.:|

You didn't understand me. It doesn't matter if you have 10 5-year degrees hanging on your wall. All that shows is that you went through the process, and memorized just enough to make the grade. It doesn't reflect actual talent or technical proficiency within the given field.

:|:|:|

So. . . the credentials of the field. . . .do not reflect talent in said field. . . . . . .

:lol:

You tell me that you believe I may not be him, now you're going back to thinking I'm him?

Just saying you have another quality of his.

I don't think you really have a degree in Philosophy. You're too wishy-washy.

Said the one who thinks he's being persecuted on the Internet.:lol: But whatever you say.

If God didn't make us, then who did?

Who said there needs to be a "who"?

Holy hell, I sound like an atheist.

Your parents? And who made them?

Their parents.

****, I did it again.

And so on. It all traces back to whatever was first, if anything, right?

Yeah. . . .of course, if something happens along the line during that time, then why should God be blamed? Because He didn't make them perfect enough? Could you tell me how that's possible without resorting to the "because He's God" cop-out?

I have education. By the way, "professionalism" is an illusion of human society. It's a way people pat themselves on the back and convince themselves they've accomplished something great, when it's really insignificant in the big picture.

Depends on what you mean by "big picture." It also depends on what you're educated in; you could be the smartest man on Earth and not know **** about what you speak, because that's not your area.

Again! That verse says otherwise. Brother please, denial is not healthy.

No, it isn't. So quit denying. At least two Christians have told you that you have a verse in the Bible wrong. What should that tell you? That you're right and the ones who follow the belief must be ignorant of what they follow?

Have you ever masturbated? Or used your hand on another guy?

Masturbated? Yes. The other option? No. Nobody knows if masturbation is a sin. . . .there isn't a verse in the Bible that addresses that particular area.

Persecuted_1

LJS9502 just did the blue text thing that Theokhoth does. So I guess they're alts. Yeah, I should be a private investigator. I'm really good at this stuff. :)Persecuted_1

Wrong shade. The more you post the less likely I am to believe it's a coincidence. You are even having the same argument with theo that DS does. Exact same.

I haven't seen him in religion threads so he must be suspended....hmm.

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"]

DS if that it is you, jeez, just let it go, or at least debate under one guise.

Persecuted_1

Oh my stars. I never would have thought in a million years that when I signed up for this website that a whole gang of people would be accusing me of being someone else. This DS guy must be fairly influential or popular if he's on everyone's minds. You guys are worrying me. Maybe I should have just stuck to IGN and 1up, where people are not so paranoid.

The similarities are uncanny...

This DS guy must be fairly influential or popular if he's on everyone's minds.

Persecuted_1

Oh, he's popular. . . . . .

LJS9502 just did the blue text thing that Theokhoth does. So I guess they're alts. Yeah, I should be a private investigator. I'm really good at this stuff. :)Persecuted_1

There's another one!

See, he pulled this PI thing on LJ, and began accusing two or three other users of being his alts.:lol:

having sex with another man is a sin. the important thing is repenting, becuase we all sin every single day.Heydanbud92

What if somebody is sick and sleeps all day?

It's GameSpot's fault that I receive an error whenever I try to perform a simple task.:| Theokhoth

Still blaming the server. :lol: Everyone else can do it. Look, I'm doing it! Wow!

Ever think that maybe it's you who's doing something wrong? :roll:

So. . . the credentials of the field. . . .do not reflect talent in said field. . . . . . .

Theokhoth

Correct. You'll get it one day. I can see that today is not that day however.

Just saying you have another quality of his.Theokhoth

Well, I've never even seen this guy, so I guess I'll reserve my judgement on how I feel about being compared to him.

Yeah. . . .of course, if something happens along the line during that time, then why should God be blamed? Because He didn't make them perfect enough? Could you tell me how that's possible without resorting to the "because He's God" cop-out?Theokhoth

Correct. If God would have designed his creations with fail-proof measures from the beginning, there would be no chance of things "failing somewhere along the line". So yes, it would be God's fault. What's even funnier is that you act so astonished that I would blame God, when it's all the more ridiculous to blame the flaws on the imperfect, who had no clue of how to do it right, or even a chance to fix it.

Depends on what you mean by "big picture." It also depends on what you're educated in; you could be the smartest man on Earth and not know **** about what you speak, because that's not your area.Theokhoth

True. But I'm not going to get into deep philisophical discussions at this point. Who knows, I might even need to leave to :o eat!

No, it isn't. So quit denying. At least two Christians have told you that you have a verse in the Bible wrong. What should that tell you? That you're right and the ones who follow the belief must be ignorant of what they follow?Theokhoth

You're saying that christians are experts on the bible? In my experience, that's usually reversed.

Masturbated? Yes. The other option? No. Nobody knows if masturbation is a sin. . . .there isn't a verse in the Bible that addresses that particular area.

Theokhoth

When you masturbate what do you fanta$ize about? Other men, I'm assuming, if you're homosexual. So just by having lustful thoughts towards other men, along with reaching climax as a result of those thoughts, aren't you commiting a homosexual act?

P.S. - What's with "fanta$ize" being censored?

[QUOTE="Persecuted_1"]
LJS9502 just did the blue text thing that Theokhoth does. So I guess they're alts. Yeah, I should be a private investigator. I'm really good at this stuff. :)LJS9502_basic

Wrong shade. The more you post the less likely I am to believe it's a coincidence. You are even having the same argument with theo that DS does. Exact same.

I haven't seen him in religion threads so he must be suspended....hmm.

Oh yeah. Different shade. That was cute. What did I do to you guys to get you accusing me of being someone else, that you apparently dislike? I see these arguements all the time on many forums. How could this be the exact same arguement? I've seen this topic being argued all over the web. Yep, I'm convinced, you guys are definately noobs.

Cuze Butt Cex is teh nasty.

Really I think it's pretty disgusting...

When you masturbate what do you fanta$ize about? Other men, I'm assuming, if you're homosexual. So just by having lustful thoughts towards other men, along with reaching climax as a result of those thoughts, aren't you commiting a homosexual act?

P.S. - What's with "fanta$ize" being censored?

Persecuted_1

No, you can't commit a homosexual act by yourself.

[QUOTE="Persecuted_1"]

When you masturbate what do you fanta$ize about? Other men, I'm assuming, if you're homosexual. So just by having lustful thoughts towards other men, along with reaching climax as a result of those thoughts, aren't you commiting a homosexual act?

P.S. - What's with "fanta$ize" being censored?

Dark_Knight6

No, you can't commit a homosexual act by yourself.

[QUOTE="Heydanbud92"]having sex with another man is a sin. the important thing is repenting, becuase we all sin every single day.-Jiggles-

What if somebody is sick and sleeps all day?

You can sin in your dreams... in fact i did last night lol.

Oh yeah. Different shade. That was cute. What did I do to you guys to get you accusing me of being someone else, that you apparently dislike? I see these arguements all the time on many forums. How could this be the exact same arguement? I've seen this topic being argued all over the web. Yep, I'm convinced, you guys are definately noobs.

Persecuted_1

This other user pulled the same exact argument that you're pulling now. He even quoted the same verses. He never backed down, and continued to insist that I'm going to hell (should it exist, which it obviously doesn't to anyone with a brain, according to him. :roll: )

I'm convinced: you are him.

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="Persecuted_1"]

When you masturbate what do you fanta$ize about? Other men, I'm assuming, if you're homosexual. So just by having lustful thoughts towards other men, along with reaching climax as a result of those thoughts, aren't you commiting a homosexual act?

P.S. - What's with "fanta$ize" being censored?

Koolsen

No, you can't commit a homosexual act by yourself.

It isn't a homosexual act if you do it to yourself, by yourself.

Another GameSpot glitch issue. That or you don't know HTML.;)

Anyway, lustful thoughts are forgiven. . .it's in that category of "everything's forgiven." As for whether or not it counts as an act, that's up to speculation.

Theokhoth

I'm not going to respond to all that other stuff because it's not getting anywhere, but as for HTML, I know it well. Fanta$ize isn't censored on any other site so it must be a Gamespot glitch. But not being able to quote? That's just you. Like I just said, I'm doing it right now, so it couldn't be a glitch. Hello? Are you there?

Everything's forgiven? Oh how nice. It's great how it works out that way huh? So I'll just go kill some people and I'll be forgiven since it falls into the "everything's forgiven" category. Well if everything is forgiven, then go find yourself a tight young man and get to work. Homosexual acts fall into the category of "everything" as well.

Wow, no wonder you guys fight with this DS guy. He must get just as frustrated as I am getting with how you flip-flop your stance so many times in one hour.

I'm not going to respond to all that other stuff because it's not getting anywhere, but as for HTML, I know it well. Fanta$ize isn't censored on any other site so it must be a Gamespot glitch. But not being able to quote? That's just you. Like I just said, I'm doing it right now, so it couldn't be a glitch. Hello? Are you there?

You haven't been to GameSpot very long. There are a ton of glitches that work for some users and not for others. Observe:

Fantasize.

Works for me. You're just doing it wrong.

Everything's forgiven?

Bingo. It's kinda the central point of Christianity.

Oh how nice. It's great how it works out that way huh?

Yeah.

So I'll just go kill some people and I'll be forgiven since it falls into the "everything's forgiven" category.

If you ask Christ for forgiveness, and mean it, then yes, it will be forgiven.

Well if everything is forgiven, then go find yourself a tight young man and get to work. Homosexual acts fall into the category of "everything" as well.

Grace is not a license to sin.;)

Wow, no wonder you guys fight with this DS guy. He must get just as frustrated as I am getting with how you flip-flop your stance so many times in one hour.

I haven't flip-flopped at all. I've been saying these things from the beginning.:lol:

Persecuted_1

[QUOTE="Koolsen"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="Persecuted_1"]

When you masturbate what do you fanta$ize about? Other men, I'm assuming, if you're homosexual. So just by having lustful thoughts towards other men, along with reaching climax as a result of those thoughts, aren't you commiting a homosexual act?

P.S. - What's with "fanta$ize" being censored?

Dark_Knight6

No, you can't commit a homosexual act by yourself.

It isn't a homosexual act if you do it to yourself, by yourself.

Trust me on this. It involves a stick, two pounds of beef, a cow heart, and a box of skin grafts.Koolsen

:o He knows our secret!

You haven't been to GameSpot very long. Theokhoth

So now I'm not an alt?

I haven't flip-flopped at all. I've been saying these things from the beginning.:lol:

Theokhoth

See above. How many times have you gone back and forth with, you're an alt, ok maybe not, ok now I'm convinced you are, well I'd be suprised if you're not, to you haven't been here very long. Does anybody here actually take you seriously?

[QUOTE="Koolsen"]Trust me on this. It involves a stick, two pounds of beef, a cow heart, and a box of skin grafts.Theokhoth

:o He knows our secret!

Dammit!!:evil:

Oh, and before anyone claims otherwise, homosexuality IS something you have no control of. Let the battle commence!deepdreamer256