If Israel tries to attack Iran.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]History is irrelevantRenevent42

You heard it people

[QUOTE="Renevent42"]

There's no videos of the IDF raping women and torturing babies...it's absolutely malarkey. On the other hand there *are* videos of the other side chopping people's freaking heads off...hell they video tape it themselves and scream in joy as they do it.

LastRambo341

There's no videos of the IDF raping women and torturing babies...it's absolutely malarkey. On the other hand there *are* videos of the other side chopping people's freaking heads off...hell they video tape it themselves and scream in joy as they do it.

Renevent42

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] Show me one of those videos. I'm sure I've seen alot more than you. You know I have access to youtube too don't you? Also I live in the area of the world with probably the LEAST censoring.

themajormayor

I'll get censored and moderated -_- so theres no point. I don't wanna get banned. Denial

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] Accusations that are supplied by google YA, and the Israelis have 10x more deadly weapons thanks to help by America. I don't approve the killings of anyone, including Israeli civilians but what the Israeli soldiers do is INHUMANE. Denial at its finestLastRambo341

Show me then you nitwit.

So because Israeli soldiers are allegedly "inhumane" it's ok for Hamas to torture people. That's what you're saying?

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="Renevent42"]

There's no videos of the IDF raping women and torturing babies...it's absolutely malarkey. On the other hand there *are* videos of the other side chopping people's freaking heads off...hell they video tape it themselves and scream in joy as they do it.

Renevent42

And yet it's funny how the US and Britain can keep nuclear weapons, damn hypocrites.H_M_1

[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="themajormayor"]

You heard it people

themajormayor

It is unfotunate, when we just sit around congratulating ourselves.... without really addressing the point.

has israel gained, lost or maintained territory over the past 50 years?

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="themajormayor"]

Show me then you nitwit.

So because Israeli soldiers are allegedly "inhumane" it's ok for Hamas to torture people. That's what you're saying?

themajormayor

If you're not willing to research then don't argue in the first place

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="SauceKing"]

great maybe they are, but if you want peace... that doesnt mean israeli military just takes over the whole goddamn place.

the point is israelies dont want peace, they want domination.

SauceKing

good point, israel isnt using their military dominance to keep settling new territory in the west bank.

Thats doesnt happen at all.

[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] No they're not -_- I was just using Lastrambo's twisted logic. You clearly know nothing of this situation. I won't even make a counterargument since their is no argument in the first place. So I'm gonna ask you to elaborate on your statement.themajormayor

good point, israel isnt using their military dominance to keep settling new territory in the west bank.

Thats doesnt happen at all.

yea palestinians avoiding negotioations... while during the negotioations israelies are still taking more land. What a great negotiation.

sign me up.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="Renevent42"] There's really nothing more to talk with LastRambo about...obviously ignorance prevails lol.SauceKing

It is unfotunate, when we just sit around congratulating ourselves.... without really addressing the point.

has israel gained, lost or maintained territory over the past 50 years?

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="Renevent42"] I GOT MODERATED FOR DOING THAT IN THE PAST, don't you get it?? No its not ok for Hamas, but Israel is doing it even worseSauceKing

If you're not willing to research then don't argue in the first place

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="SauceKing"]

good point, israel isnt using their military dominance to keep settling new territory in the west bank.

Thats doesnt happen at all.

SauceKing

yea palestinians avoiding negotioations... while during the negotioations israelies are still taking more land. What a great negotiation.

sign me up.

[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] It's unfortunate really that this is often the case in the real world.themajormayor

It is unfotunate, when we just sit around congratulating ourselves.... without really addressing the point.

has israel gained, lost or maintained territory over the past 50 years?

IT IS a bad thing, because peace talks dont work when you are conquering territory.

[QUOTE="Renevent42"]

There's no videos of the IDF raping women and torturing babies...it's absolutely malarkey. On the other hand there *are* videos of the other side chopping people's freaking heads off...hell they video tape it themselves and scream in joy as they do it.

themajormayor

That...Was...INCREDIBLE!!!

Thank you for making my day sir.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="SauceKing"]

It is unfotunate, when we just sit around congratulating ourselves.... without really addressing the point.

has israel gained, lost or maintained territory over the past 50 years?

SauceKing

IT IS a bad thing, because peace talks dont work when you are conquering territory.

[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] It's unfortunate really that this is often the case in the real world.themajormayor

It is unfotunate, when we just sit around congratulating ourselves.... without really addressing the point.

has israel gained, lost or maintained territory over the past 50 years?

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"]

There's no videos of the IDF raping women and torturing babies...it's absolutely malarkey. On the other hand there *are* videos of the other side chopping people's freaking heads off...hell they video tape it themselves and scream in joy as they do it.

John_Coffey

That...Was...INCREDIBLE!!!

Thank you for making my day sir.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="SauceKing"]

good point, israel isnt using their military dominance to keep settling new territory in the west bank.

Thats doesnt happen at all.

SauceKing

yea palestinians avoiding negotioations... while during the negotioations israelies are still taking more land. What a great negotiation.

sign me up.

If Israel attacked Iran, they would be doing so alone. The USA has been working all of its politics to keep Israel from doing such a thing. We wouldn't intervene nor help them in any way. If their attack results in them getting their asses beat, so be it.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="SauceKing"]

It is unfotunate, when we just sit around congratulating ourselves.... without really addressing the point.

has israel gained, lost or maintained territory over the past 50 years?

Darkman2007

If Israel attacked Iran, they would be doing so alone. The USA has been working all of its politics to keep Israel from doing such a thing. We wouldn't intervene nor help them in any way. If their attack results in them getting their asses beat, so be it.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] You're making it sound like a bad thing that. btw how about the past 40 years?themajormayor

People tend to forget that Israel has always been the first country to make attempts towards peace. War was declared on it at its inception and after the Six Day War it offered to return all conquered territories in exchange for peace agreements. Unfortunately the Arab world has always waited for more wars or violence before reciprocating.

I think the U.S. will turn its back on Israel, and condemn them. I doubt that they will attack them.

People tend to forget that Israel has always been the first country to make attempts towards peace. War was declared on it at its inception and after the Six Day War it offered to return all conquered territories in exchange for peace agreements. Unfortunately the Arab world has always waited for more wars or violence before reciprocating.

John_Coffey

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="SauceKing"]

good point, israel isnt using their military dominance to keep settling new territory in the west bank.

Thats doesnt happen at all.

SauceKing

yea palestinians avoiding negotioations... while during the negotioations israelies are still taking more land. What a great negotiation.

sign me up.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

If Israel attacked Iran, they would be doing so alone. The USA has been working all of its politics to keep Israel from doing such a thing. We wouldn't intervene nor help them in any way. If their attack results in them getting their asses beat, so be it.

themajormayor

Aww isn't this cute. Making assumptions and then calling us hypocrites because of your assumption.

Every try not speaking out of your ass?

People tend to forget that Israel has always been the first country to make attempts towards peace. War was declared on it at its inception and after the Six Day War it offered to return all conquered territories in exchange for peace agreements. Unfortunately the Arab world has always waited for more wars or violence before reciprocating.

John_Coffey

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] in the last 50 years, Israel has lost land, it gave the Sinai back to Egypt, and the Sinai is bigger than Israel itself. though even then , I find it funny when people talk about what land Israel has or gains, the Arabs attacked, they lost the war of 48 , and lost land with it, let it be a lesson to others. that said I would be willing to set up a Palestinian state more or less along the 67 lines, provided there are no rockets , no bombs , etcRenevent42

[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] No they've given up more and more territory. But even if they did what's your point? With Paelstinians doing all the can to avoid negotiations there is really no point to give up territory (which they do anyway)LJS9502_basic

yea palestinians avoiding negotioations... while during the negotioations israelies are still taking more land. What a great negotiation.

sign me up.

[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] If you're not willing to back up your statements don't make them in the first placethemajormayor

If you're not willing to research then don't argue in the first place

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

If Israel attacked Iran, they would be doing so alone. The USA has been working all of its politics to keep Israel from doing such a thing. We wouldn't intervene nor help them in any way. If their attack results in them getting their asses beat, so be it.

Wasdie

Aww isn't this cute. Making assumptions and then calling us hypocrites because of your assumption.

Every try not speaking out of your ass?

[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] You're making it sound like a bad thing that. btw how about the past 40 years?themajormayor

IT IS a bad thing, because peace talks dont work when you are conquering territory.

no, israeli forces are still taking territory today.

either way whats your point? pull all foreign aid to israel and see what they can do on their own?

im all for that..

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

If Israel attacked Iran, they would be doing so alone. The USA has been working all of its politics to keep Israel from doing such a thing. We wouldn't intervene nor help them in any way. If their attack results in them getting their asses beat, so be it.

Wasdie

Aww isn't this cute. Making assumptions and then calling us hypocrites because of your assumption.

Every try not speaking out of your ass?

[QUOTE="John_Coffey"]

People tend to forget that Israel has always been the first country to make attempts towards peace. War was declared on it at its inception and after the Six Day War it offered to return all conquered territories in exchange for peace agreements. Unfortunately the Arab world has always waited for more wars or violence before reciprocating.

Renevent42

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

If Israel attacked Iran, they would be doing so alone. The USA has been working all of its politics to keep Israel from doing such a thing. We wouldn't intervene nor help them in any way. If their attack results in them getting their asses beat, so be it.

Wasdie

Aww isn't this cute. Making assumptions and then calling us hypocrites because of your assumption.

Every try not speaking out of your ass?

I would say that hypocrisy is not the right word. Realism is more appropriate. The west has significant interests in the Shia muslim world as well as the Sunni region. Any attack on Iran by Israel would of course draw anger from the Arab world and the USA would go along as it makes sense strategically. I dont begrudge them that, however I do think the west would breathe a collective sigh of releif if Israel were to destroy the Iranian nuclear threat (although at this stage I am sceptical as to whether that is an achievable goal).

no, israeli forces are still taking territory today.

SauceKing

Where and when?

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

If you're not willing to research then don't argue in the first place

LastRambo341

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="SauceKing"]

IT IS a bad thing, because peace talks dont work when you are conquering territory.

SauceKing

no, israeli forces are still taking territory today.

either way whats your point? pull all foreign aid to israel and see what they can do on their own?

im all for that..

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="SauceKing"]

IT IS a bad thing, because peace talks dont work when you are conquering territory.

SauceKing

no, israeli forces are still taking territory today.

either way whats your point? pull all foreign aid to israel and see what they can do on their own?

im all for that..

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] You'll thank them later. Just as with Iraq and Syria. HypocritesJohn_Coffey

Aww isn't this cute. Making assumptions and then calling us hypocrites because of your assumption.

Every try not speaking out of your ass?

I would say that hypocrisy is not the right word. Realism is more appropriate. The west has significant interests in the Shia muslim world as well as the Sunni region. Any attack on Iran by Israel would of course draw anger from the Arab world and the USA would go along as it makes sense strategically. I dont begrudge them that, however I do think the west would breathe a collective sigh of releif if Israel were to destroy the Iranian nuclear threat (although at this stage I am sceptical as to whether that is an achievable goal).

They want Israel to do their dirty work and then have someone as scapegoat. That's what I mean

[QUOTE="Renevent42"]

[QUOTE="John_Coffey"]

People tend to forget that Israel has always been the first country to make attempts towards peace. War was declared on it at its inception and after the Six Day War it offered to return all conquered territories in exchange for peace agreements. Unfortunately the Arab world has always waited for more wars or violence before reciprocating.

LastRambo341

depends by what you mean is "their land" , according to the UN , the west bank is theirs (despite the fact they have never ruled it , either in modern or ancient times), but according to Hamas, Tel Aviv is theirs, so the "throw the Jews into the sea" thing is quite correct regarding the views of at least some Arabs.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] You'll thank them later. Just as with Iraq and Syria. HypocritesLJS9502_basic

Aww isn't this cute. Making assumptions and then calling us hypocrites because of your assumption.

Every try not speaking out of your ass?

But I'm not calling anybody hypocrites because of it.

It's one thing to guess, it's another thing to derive baseless insults from your guess.

[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

no, israeli forces are still taking territory today.

pie-junior

Where and when?

[QUOTE="Renevent42"]

[QUOTE="John_Coffey"]

People tend to forget that Israel has always been the first country to make attempts towards peace. War was declared on it at its inception and after the Six Day War it offered to return all conquered territories in exchange for peace agreements. Unfortunately the Arab world has always waited for more wars or violence before reciprocating.

LastRambo341

Glad you at least admit something here...and that is this has nothing to do with peace and simply Arabs trying to destroy Israel.

With that said, it's not their land...the British held it prior and the land was split. Israel would have gone on peacefully just fine with the original land split...but even that was unacceptable. No, a single Jew in the area, much less an entire country of them is a black eye to the surrounding nations. Since that time every effort has been made to destroy them.

If people like YOU got your way, if would have been nothing less than genocide. Thankfully ignorance such as yours does not prevail, and because of that Israel still stands today.