im curious as to why so many people on a VIDEO GAME site advocate Communism?

Just a question. It seems so many people here say capitalism is this evil beastly thing, and yet they have hobbies directly related to that.

Is there just a lot of naive kids here, or do you not play video games or partake in any hobby in which you rely on consuming?

Im not going to go into details about capitalism vs communism but im a Socialist my self.

People fail to realize that you do not have to be on one extreme or the other. The best society probably has aspects of capitalism and socialism, right? Just because someone believes that some programs should not be run by corporations does not automatically make them a communist, no matter what the conservative radio hosts say.Engrish_Major

thats not what im talking about, im talking about the people on thsi forum that blatantly support communism. Im not even talking about socialists here. Just communists

How long have you been here? OT is all about being non-conformist and overrating everything good. Funny thing is, when everyone begins to non-conform to the same things they are in actuality; conforming. Kinda of an inevitable paradox.

I wouldn't listen to most of these people who "love" communism. Few of these people have an Economics degree (if at all) and none of these people would ever put their opinions into practice by actually MOVING to a communist state. They're prolly sitting there right now in their place sipping some cool, refreshing free-market beverage while you get worked up about this.

Why do you Americans have such warped views on world politics 0_o? The way you are talking about it I doubt you even know what communism is.Silent-Hal

That's what I keep trying to tell them. Everyone who calls Clinton a communist is not even aware that on a global (or even just European) scale, she is pretty moderate, as are most Democrats.

How long have you been here? OT is all about being non-conformist and overrating everything good. Funny thing is, when everyone begins to non-conform to the same things they are in actuality; conforming. Kinda of an inevitable paradox.

I wouldn't listen to most of these people who "love" communism. Few of these people have an Economics degree (if at all) and none of these people would ever put their opinions into practice by actually MOVING to a communist state. They're prolly sitting there right now in their place sipping some cool, refreshing free-market beverage while you get worked up about this.

Total-KO

haha very nice.

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]Why do you Americans have such warped views on world politics 0_o? The way you are talking about it I doubt you even know what communism is.Engrish_Major

That's what I keep trying to tell them. Everyone who calls Clinton a communist is not even aware that on a global (or even just European) scale, she is pretty moderate, as are most Democrats.

people who call her that, call her that because they believe her programs will LEAD to communism. at least thats how i see it.

Why do you Americans have such warped views on world politics 0_o? The way you are talking about it I doubt you even know what communism is.Silent-Hal

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]Why do you Americans have such warped views on world politics 0_o? The way you are talking about it I doubt you even know what communism is.H8sMikeMoore

That's what I keep trying to tell them. Everyone who calls Clinton a communist is not even aware that on a global (or even just European) scale, she is pretty moderate, as are most Democrats.

people who call her that, call her that because they believe her programs will LEAD to communism. at least thats how i see it.

If anything, Hilldog's policies are more leaning towards right-wing.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]Why do you Americans have such warped views on world politics 0_o? The way you are talking about it I doubt you even know what communism is.H8sMikeMoore

That's what I keep trying to tell them. Everyone who calls Clinton a communist is not even aware that on a global (or even just European) scale, she is pretty moderate, as are most Democrats.

people who call her that, call her that because they believe her programs will LEAD to communism. at least thats how i see it.

Some of her programs are programs European countries have had for years and it hasn't led to communism here. You're overreacting and making yourself sound ignorant.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]Why do you Americans have such warped views on world politics 0_o? The way you are talking about it I doubt you even know what communism is.Silent-Hal

That's what I keep trying to tell them. Everyone who calls Clinton a communist is not even aware that on a global (or even just European) scale, she is pretty moderate, as are most Democrats.

people who call her that, call her that because they believe her programs will LEAD to communism. at least thats how i see it.

Some of her programs are programs European countries have had for years and it hasn't led to communism here. Your overreacting and making yourself sound ignorant.

Well most European countries are very left of center, even if they're not overtly socialist. Her policies are undeniably a move toward socialism.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]Why do you Americans have such warped views on world politics 0_o? The way you are talking about it I doubt you even know what communism is.Silent-Hal

That's what I keep trying to tell them. Everyone who calls Clinton a communist is not even aware that on a global (or even just European) scale, she is pretty moderate, as are most Democrats.

people who call her that, call her that because they believe her programs will LEAD to communism. at least thats how i see it.

Some of her programs are programs European countries have had for years and it hasn't led to communism here. Your overreacting and making yourself sound ignorant.

America isnt Europe. different place, different society. America is meant for freedom from government, which is why we had prosperity while europe basically decayed. The only reason europe is doing good now is because they all joined together. Eventually europe will probably run into more problems unless they keep adapting to americas way like they have been.

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]Why do you Americans have such warped views on world politics 0_o? The way you are talking about it I doubt you even know what communism is.H8sMikeMoore

That's what I keep trying to tell them. Everyone who calls Clinton a communist is not even aware that on a global (or even just European) scale, she is pretty moderate, as are most Democrats.

people who call her that, call her that because they believe her programs will LEAD to communism. at least thats how i see it.

Some of her programs are programs European countries have had for years and it hasn't led to communism here. Your overreacting and making yourself sound ignorant.

America isnt Europe. different place, different society. America is meant for freedom from government, which is why we had prosperity while europe basically decayed. The only reason europe is doing good now is because they all joined together. Eventually europe will probably run into more problems unless they keep adapting to americas way like they have been.

You just lost all credibility right there. Isn't America's economy currently in a crisis?

communism is that badfreshgman

Confused:are you saying Communism is that bad, or are you asking what is it and is it bad?

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Silent-Hal"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]Why do you Americans have such warped views on world politics 0_o? The way you are talking about it I doubt you even know what communism is.Silent-Hal

That's what I keep trying to tell them. Everyone who calls Clinton a communist is not even aware that on a global (or even just European) scale, she is pretty moderate, as are most Democrats.

people who call her that, call her that because they believe her programs will LEAD to communism. at least thats how i see it.

Some of her programs are programs European countries have had for years and it hasn't led to communism here. Your overreacting and making yourself sound ignorant.

America isnt Europe. different place, different society. America is meant for freedom from government, which is why we had prosperity while europe basically decayed. The only reason europe is doing good now is because they all joined together. Eventually europe will probably run into more problems unless they keep adapting to americas way like they have been.

You just lost all credibility right there. Isn't America's economy currently in a crisis?

if you think i lost credibility then you clearly dont know how to comprehend.

Its pretty obvious, actually... its so obvious that im surprised im even telling you this that im talking about through out history

Americas housing market is to blame, do you think america is gonna fall apart or something? Once the housing market clears up well be ahead of the world again. and to this day were still the ONLY super power. Thanks to our way of life, not the european way.

ill did it as a joke once. you were the only one that took it seriously. LoG-Sacrament

I dont even know who you are =[

Because theoretical communism is the most beautiful ideal in existence despite its being at the highest spire of idealism. Are you sure that you understand communism?CptJSparrow

of course I do. what makes you think I dont? Do you think thats a quick way out of the argument here? First of all we are not talking about WHAT communism is. we are talking why so many people on this forum advocate it blatantly.

communism is a form of economics that advocates the destruction of all private property and given to the public. all means of production is controlled by the public. its "classless" and everything like i said earlier is commonly owned. So I dont expect some other smarty pants to try and get out of this by doing the "LOLZ DUZ U NO?? DUZ U" thing because honestly, im starting to think YOU people dont know what it is.

if you think i lost credibility then you clearly dont know how to comprehend.

Its pretty obvious, actually... its so obvious that im surprised im even telling you this that im talking about through out history

Americas housing market is to blame, do you think america is gonna fall apart or something? Once the housing market clears up well be ahead of the world again. and to this day were still the ONLY super power. Thanks to our way of life, not the european way.

H8sMikeMoore

What I do know is that you have a huge superiority complex. And isn't saying that something of an oxymoron since almost all white Americans are descended from Europeans who had European values? You may be the only super power, but you still have just as many problems and issues as anywhere else in the world. After the bumbling of the Bush administration most non-Americans don't take you guys seriously anymore.

*Sigh* Yet another person who views issues in such forced dichotomies. The world is not split into "this" or "that". Being anti-capitalist, at least the modern day out of control economic policies much of the worlds nations have in place, does not make me a communist. If anything I dislike that even more.Hoobinator

like i said earlier, im talking about the people who come right out in the open and admit to advocating communism

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"]Because theoretical communism is the most beautiful ideal in existence despite its being at the highest spire of idealism. Are you sure that you understand communism?H8sMikeMoore

of course I do. what makes you think I dont? Do you think thats a quick way out of the argument here? First of all we are not talking about WHAT communism is. we are talking why so many people on this forum advocate it blatantly.

communism is a form of economics that advocates the destruction of all private property and given to the public. all means of production is controlled by the public. its "classless" and everything like i said earlier is commonly owned. So I dont expect some other smarty pants to try and get out of this by doing the "LOLZ DUZ U NO?? DUZ U" thing because honestly, im starting to think YOU people dont know what it is.

Why do you Americans have such warped views on world politics 0_o? The way you are talking about it I doubt you even know what communism is.Silent-Hal

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

if you think i lost credibility then you clearly dont know how to comprehend.

Its pretty obvious, actually... its so obvious that im surprised im even telling you this that im talking about through out history

Americas housing market is to blame, do you think america is gonna fall apart or something? Once the housing market clears up well be ahead of the world again. and to this day were still the ONLY super power. Thanks to our way of life, not the european way.

Silent-Hal

What I do know is that you have a huge superiority complex. And isn't saying that something of an oxymoron since almost all white Americans are descended from Europeans who had European values? You may be the only super power, but you still have just as many problems and issues as anywhere else in the world. After the bumbling of the Bush administration most non-Americans don't take you guys seriously anymore.

it has nothing to do with the fact that most americans are of european descent. I dont even know why you said that.

Yeah they had european values, such as democracy. In america the europeans were allowed to actually LIVE a real life. In europe the governments have a long history of being simply put, a bunch of jerkbrainz.

I dont care what nonamericans say. Honestly, since I live in america why would I? Its not like they vote in my country. Why would you care what an American thinks of lets say Germany? Americans have the gift of being able to be entirely self contained. Which is a good thing, because the rest of the worlds governments are in my eyes, worse than ours.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

if you think i lost credibility then you clearly dont know how to comprehend.

Its pretty obvious, actually... its so obvious that im surprised im even telling you this that im talking about through out history

Americas housing market is to blame, do you think america is gonna fall apart or something? Once the housing market clears up well be ahead of the world again. and to this day were still the ONLY super power. Thanks to our way of life, not the european way.

Silent-Hal

What I do know is that you have a huge superiority complex. And isn't saying that something of an oxymoron since almost all white Americans are descended from Europeans who had European values? You may be the only super power, but you still have just as many problems and issues as anywhere else in the world. After the bumbling of the Bush administration most non-Americans don't take you guys seriously anymore.

On the Americans being of European descent...thanks for sending the best and brightest to get the party started!!!! My families left Europe cause they were starving and persecuted. They weren't ever, or even today, proud of being of European descent. My Irish side is more proud of the fact that our ancestors came here and made something of themselves using the American way.

Countries around the world never really took us seriously btw. It just seems that people have used Bush as a "valid" excuse.

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

if you think i lost credibility then you clearly dont know how to comprehend.

Its pretty obvious, actually... its so obvious that im surprised im even telling you this that im talking about through out history

Americas housing market is to blame, do you think america is gonna fall apart or something? Once the housing market clears up well be ahead of the world again. and to this day were still the ONLY super power. Thanks to our way of life, not the european way.

InterpolWilco

What I do know is that you have a huge superiority complex. And isn't saying that something of an oxymoron since almost all white Americans are descended from Europeans who had European values? You may be the only super power, but you still have just as many problems and issues as anywhere else in the world. After the bumbling of the Bush administration most non-Americans don't take you guys seriously anymore.

On the Americans being of European descent...thanks for sending the best and brightest to get the party started!!!! My families left Europe cause they were starving and persecuted. They weren't ever, or even today, proud of being of European descent. My Irish side is more proud of the fact that our ancestors came here and made something of themselves using the American way.

Countries around the world never really took us seriously btw. It just seems that people have used Bush as a "valid" excuse.

you, my friend area a true american. to me it seems that a lot of irish people tend to "get" america pretty well.

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]Why do you Americans have such warped views on world politics 0_o? The way you are talking about it I doubt you even know what communism is.H8sMikeMoore

That's what I keep trying to tell them. Everyone who calls Clinton a communist is not even aware that on a global (or even just European) scale, she is pretty moderate, as are most Democrats.

people who call her that, call her that because they believe her programs will LEAD to communism. at least thats how i see it.

Some of her programs are programs European countries have had for years and it hasn't led to communism here. Your overreacting and making yourself sound ignorant.

America isnt Europe. different place, different society. America is meant for freedom from government, which is why we had prosperity while europe basically decayed. The only reason europe is doing good now is because they all joined together. Eventually europe will probably run into more problems unless they keep adapting to americas way like they have been.

You do realise that is one of the only reasons America does so well dont you?

[QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"]ill did it as a joke once. you were the only one that took it seriously. H8sMikeMoore

I dont even know who you are =[

i didnt remember you until i saw your name next to communism and the lulz it provided me before

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26237606

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Silent-Hal"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]Why do you Americans have such warped views on world politics 0_o? The way you are talking about it I doubt you even know what communism is.rb2610

That's what I keep trying to tell them. Everyone who calls Clinton a communist is not even aware that on a global (or even just European) scale, she is pretty moderate, as are most Democrats.

people who call her that, call her that because they believe her programs will LEAD to communism. at least thats how i see it.

Some of her programs are programs European countries have had for years and it hasn't led to communism here. Your overreacting and making yourself sound ignorant.

America isnt Europe. different place, different society. America is meant for freedom from government, which is why we had prosperity while europe basically decayed. The only reason europe is doing good now is because they all joined together. Eventually europe will probably run into more problems unless they keep adapting to americas way like they have been.

You do realise that is one of the only reasons America does so well dont you?

the countries of europe are still considered their own countries for the most part.

the states are actually part of our country. its not one of the only reasons we do good. A lot of how we do is how competitive we are. This is a capitalist trait.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"]ill did it as a joke once. you were the only one that took it seriously. LoG-Sacrament

I dont even know who you are =[

i didnt remember you until i saw your name next to communism and the lulz it provided me before

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26237606

I see

well, you werent the inspiration for this thread. I promise :)

Actually I was thinking about people with communist avatars. Not quite as popular as it used to be but ya know.

you, my friend area a true american. to me it seems that a lot of irish people tend to "get" america pretty well.

H8sMikeMoore

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

you, my friend area a true american. to me it seems that a lot of irish people tend to "get" america pretty well.

CptJSparrow

I establish what a true american is

someone who believes in: Little government, capitalism, and hella loadz of fun in the summar

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

you, my friend area a true american. to me it seems that a lot of irish people tend to "get" america pretty well.

H8sMikeMoore

I establish what a true american is

someone who believes in: Little government, capitalism, and hella loadz of fun in the summar

No. You're merging national identity with political position.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

you, my friend area a true american. to me it seems that a lot of irish people tend to "get" america pretty well.

Total-KO

I establish what a true american is

someone who believes in: Little government, capitalism, and hella loadz of fun in the summar

No. You're merging national identity with political position.

my political position is national identity.

my political position is national identity.

H8sMikeMoore

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

my political position is national identity.

CptJSparrow

no. it just so happens a lot of people in this country arent too bright.

[QUOTE="InterpolWilco"][QUOTE="Silent-Hal"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

if you think i lost credibility then you clearly dont know how to comprehend.

Its pretty obvious, actually... its so obvious that im surprised im even telling you this that im talking about through out history

Americas housing market is to blame, do you think america is gonna fall apart or something? Once the housing market clears up well be ahead of the world again. and to this day were still the ONLY super power. Thanks to our way of life, not the european way.

H8sMikeMoore

What I do know is that you have a huge superiority complex. And isn't saying that something of an oxymoron since almost all white Americans are descended from Europeans who had European values? You may be the only super power, but you still have just as many problems and issues as anywhere else in the world. After the bumbling of the Bush administration most non-Americans don't take you guys seriously anymore.

On the Americans being of European descent...thanks for sending the best and brightest to get the party started!!!! My families left Europe cause they were starving and persecuted. They weren't ever, or even today, proud of being of European descent. My Irish side is more proud of the fact that our ancestors came here and made something of themselves using the American way.

Countries around the world never really took us seriously btw. It just seems that people have used Bush as a "valid" excuse.

you, my friend area a true american. to me it seems that a lot of irish people tend to "get" america pretty well.

Is that why when the Irish and many other immigrants came they were discriminated and treated unfairly? At the start it wasn't a better life, it was more of the same.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="InterpolWilco"][QUOTE="Silent-Hal"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

if you think i lost credibility then you clearly dont know how to comprehend.

Its pretty obvious, actually... its so obvious that im surprised im even telling you this that im talking about through out history

Americas housing market is to blame, do you think america is gonna fall apart or something? Once the housing market clears up well be ahead of the world again. and to this day were still the ONLY super power. Thanks to our way of life, not the european way.

Ilived

What I do know is that you have a huge superiority complex. And isn't saying that something of an oxymoron since almost all white Americans are descended from Europeans who had European values? You may be the only super power, but you still have just as many problems and issues as anywhere else in the world. After the bumbling of the Bush administration most non-Americans don't take you guys seriously anymore.

On the Americans being of European descent...thanks for sending the best and brightest to get the party started!!!! My families left Europe cause they were starving and persecuted. They weren't ever, or even today, proud of being of European descent. My Irish side is more proud of the fact that our ancestors came here and made something of themselves using the American way.

Countries around the world never really took us seriously btw. It just seems that people have used Bush as a "valid" excuse.

you, my friend area a true american. to me it seems that a lot of irish people tend to "get" america pretty well.

Is that why when the Irish and many other immigrants came they were discriminated and treated unfairly? At the start it wasn't a better life, it was more of the same.

the beauty of america is that the irish didnt need anyone else. and the irish got that right away. which is why they did so well. Its romantic how good my ancestors did.

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

my political position is national identity.

H8sMikeMoore

no. it just so happens a lot of people in this country arent too bright.