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#1 th3warr1or
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So why the hell am I on the friend zone with like every chick I know? It's kind of depressing really. Some friends tell me it's because I'm not big enough of a douchebag, but I'm not going to take that advice since the last time I behaved like a complete douchebag, she just got really angry.

I must really be doing something wrong because this guy whom (I am told) I am better looking than, WAY richer than, and smarter too has absolutely no problem transitioning from being best friends for like 8years into douchebag boyfriend.

I'm smart enough to think I stand a good chance of getting into Yale, and I'm NOT a nerd.

PS: Some of you may think that I'm being extremely egoistical or narcissistic because of the way I titled this thread. The whole purpose of that was to say that I'm not the opposite of any of that since quite a few months ago I've seen some people say it could be because I'm "an ass" or "jobless" or something.

Edit2: Edited title to be a little less narcissistic.
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#2 thriteenthmonke
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I'll go out with you if you'll spread the wealth around.
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#3 one_plum
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Women crave confidence. And a-holes tend to show lots of it, that's why it appears that girls prefer to hang out with them. If you haven't shown obvious signs of interest to a woman, then you should do it quite soon.
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#4 MasterKingMP
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Can't help you seeing as I'm 22 and never had a girlfriend. I'm way to nice to girls and I always come on too strong. I'll probably die alone.

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#5 fenwickhotmail
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Can't have everything..
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#6 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="one_plum"]Women crave confidence. And a-holes tend to show lots of it, that's why it appears that girls prefer to hang out with them. If you haven't shown obvious signs of interest to a woman, then you should do it quite soon.

This. It's great to be friends with girls - but if you're interested in someone - don't wait for it to get there before making a move. It's like investing in a failed company.
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#7 tman93
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Women crave confidence. And a-holes tend to show lots of it, that's why it appears that girls prefer to hang out with them. If you haven't shown obvious signs of interest to a woman, then you should do it quite soon.one_plum
He clearly doesn't lack confidence :P Just act like the person that wrote that post, you should be fine lol
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Follow some obscure self-constructed Philosophy. I swear it works.
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#9 th3warr1or
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I'm not lacking in self confidence or anything. I know what I have and I'm not afraid to show it off, but then there's like this ass who goes around being a "poor" version of me, and he gets that same girl. Oh, and they've been best friends for awhile, so I'm pretty sure he was in the friend zone.
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#10 BubbaRay12
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Can you rub some girl charmoff on me, because girl troubles are an everyday problem here bud

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#12 mlbslugger86
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i've been called a teddy bear before but like you i can't seem to get that damn "friend zone"

maybe it has to do with the fact that every girl i want to ask out already has a B/F

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#13 Sajedene
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I'm not lacking in self confidence or anything. I know what I have and I'm not afraid to show it off, but then there's like this ass who goes around being a "poor" version of me, and he gets that same girl. Oh, and they've been best friends for awhile, so I'm pretty sure he was in the friend zone. th3warr1or
I'll be friends with a guy I want to do if he's slow in asking me out - there is that time when the flirting makes it so fun - knowing we want each other but nothing has happened yet ;) (just saying) Maybe you're just too desperate in finding someone. Seems to me that "poor" version of you doesn't care about his circumstance and just goes around enjoying life and getting the girls - thus he gets the girls. We see that you know.
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#14 jrhawk42
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you can't obviously be a douche... you need to be an undercover douche.

Another thing is the girl needs to know you're interested from the start. Even then she might not get the clue, or lie about it... oh god don't even get me started on women lying. It's really easy to tell when a woman is lying though.

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#15 Bloodseeker23
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Can't help you seeing as I'm 22 and never had a girlfriend. I'm way to nice to girls and I always come on too strong. I'll probably die alone.

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Nope, if enough people died being alone.. then you'll feel less lonely.. >.>
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#16 moz-182
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If you come across the same in person as you do on Gamespot, then I'm not surprised by this at all.
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[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]I'm not lacking in self confidence or anything. I know what I have and I'm not afraid to show it off, but then there's like this ass who goes around being a "poor" version of me, and he gets that same girl. Oh, and they've been best friends for awhile, so I'm pretty sure he was in the friend zone. Sajedene
I'll be friends with a guy I want to do if he's slow in asking me out - there is that time when the flirting makes it so fun - knowing we want each other but nothing has happened yet ;) (just saying) Maybe you're just too desperate in finding someone. Seems to me that "poor" version of you doesn't care about his circumstance and just goes around enjoying life and getting the girls - thus he gets the girls. We see that you know.

I've known her for around half a year, and I've made it pretty clear [I think] that I like her, and I want to be there for her and stuff... and I'm pretty sure she got that too. I'm not expecting her to like me for my money (I've actually had quite a few of those, but it's a purely personal choice that I turn that down), because if I did I wouldn't still be single.
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#18 th3warr1or
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If you come across the same in person as you do on Gamespot, then I'm not surprised by this at all.moz-182
My internet personality =/= real life. There are somethings you just don't do in real life, or don't say on the internet because they can't be backed up.
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#20 th3warr1or
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When I behave like other douchebags (with girls) do, it fails. When I'm Mr. Nice, it's the "nice guys always finish last" case.. Wtf? Maybe the problem is that I don't want to date shallow women who are with me because I buy them Gucci bags every month, and that's about the case of every super rich guy with a hot girlfriend.
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#21 enterawesome
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Not sound rude, but you do sound a bit... egotisitc the way you present the topic. "I'm rich, I am very attractive, I'm kind-hearted, and I'm very intelligent. Why do people not go out with me if I am so superior?1!!1" Don't have a big ego, don't just expect people to treat you extremely well because you have some nice traits, be confident, and you'll do fine.
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#22 Sky-
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I'll be friends with a guy I want to doSajedene

Can we be friends? =P

[spoiler] Just kidding. I don't want to be friends with you. (Kidding again obviously) [/spoiler]

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#23 NinjaDuckling
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Take a risk and ask a girl out before you become good friends. Ask her out first, get to know her and then become friends. Also, don't be so cocky.
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#24 akuma_od3
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So why the hell am I on the friend zone with like every chick I know? It's kind of depressing really. Some friends tell me it's because I'm not big enough of a douchebag, but I'm not going to take that advice since the last time I behaved like a complete douchebag, she just got really angry.

I must really be doing something wrong because this guy whom (I am told) I am better looking than, WAY richer than, and smarter too has absolutely no problem transitioning from being best friends for like 8years into douchebag boyfriend.

I'm smart enough to think I stand a good chance of getting into Yale, and I'm NOT a nerd. th3warr1or

Judging by the thread title, your not exactly modest either. No wonder no chick wants you.

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#25 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"]I'm not lacking in self confidence or anything. I know what I have and I'm not afraid to show it off, but then there's like this ass who goes around being a "poor" version of me, and he gets that same girl. Oh, and they've been best friends for awhile, so I'm pretty sure he was in the friend zone. th3warr1or
I'll be friends with a guy I want to do if he's slow in asking me out - there is that time when the flirting makes it so fun - knowing we want each other but nothing has happened yet ;) (just saying) Maybe you're just too desperate in finding someone. Seems to me that "poor" version of you doesn't care about his circumstance and just goes around enjoying life and getting the girls - thus he gets the girls. We see that you know.

I've known her for around half a year, and I've made it pretty clear [I think] that I like her, and I want to be there for her and stuff... and I'm pretty sure she got that too. I'm not expecting her to like me for my money (I've actually had quite a few of those, but it's a purely personal choice that I turn that down), because if I did I wouldn't still be single.

You think? You've made it clear that you want to be there for her and stuff? You put yourself in the friend zone with that way of speaking man. Like I always say - NEVER put the ***** on the pedestal. Do not EVER promise those to her until she is your girlfriend unless all you really want to do is remain friends. If you "think" you made it clear then you didn't. Making it clear is straight up asking her out. DO IT.
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#26 th3warr1or
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Not sound rude, but you do sound a bit... egotisitc the way you present the topic. "I'm rich, I am very attractive, I'm kind-hearted, and I'm very intelligent. Why do people not go out with me if I am so superior?1!!1" Don't have a big ego, don't just expect people to treat you extremely well because you have some nice traits, be confident, and you'll do fine.enterawesome
This is a topic, I don't actually say these things in real life. I'm basically listing out everything different people have told me on the table so that people can find a diagnosis lol. I don't think I'm good looking. I just know I'm not ugly. I also get random people telling me I'm nice and stuff, and I'm actually the kind that hold the lift doors.

I'm not saying that chicks SHOULD like me because I'm rich, good looking and nice. I'm asking why don't chicks like me when I've got pretty much every trait that stands out alone for other guys and even with my other friends.
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#27 th3warr1or
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] I'll be friends with a guy I want to do if he's slow in asking me out - there is that time when the flirting makes it so fun - knowing we want each other but nothing has happened yet ;) (just saying) Maybe you're just too desperate in finding someone. Seems to me that "poor" version of you doesn't care about his circumstance and just goes around enjoying life and getting the girls - thus he gets the girls. We see that you know.

I've known her for around half a year, and I've made it pretty clear [I think] that I like her, and I want to be there for her and stuff... and I'm pretty sure she got that too. I'm not expecting her to like me for my money (I've actually had quite a few of those, but it's a purely personal choice that I turn that down), because if I did I wouldn't still be single.

You think? You've made it clear that you want to be there for her and stuff? You put yourself in the friend zone with that way of speaking man. Like I always say - NEVER put the ***** on the pedestal. Do not EVER promise those to her until she is your girlfriend unless all you really want to do is remain friends. If you "think" you made it clear then you didn't. Making it clear is straight up asking her out. DO IT.

Alright lol, tomorrow then.
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#28 entropyecho
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I don't have anything that you do and I fail too. Your failure < Mine.

Cheer up!

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#29 Joshywaa
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You just seem completley full of yourself.

You are saying that this guy shouldn't have a girlfriend because he has less money than you?

You seem angry that these girls aren't throwing themselves at you because you think you are perfect. You watch too much television, perhaps, and your mind has been twisted into thinking that girls only crave guys with money and are good looking. I've seen plenty of people who would be put into the "unattractive" category to most of you, who have girlfriends. Crack out of this little fake shell of yours. Act like a human being. If you like a girl then tell her. Don't flaunt yourself around and assume they will lunge at you. They won't. And if they do, then they are just as lost as you are. Ignorance is bliss, i suppose.

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#30 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"] I'll be friends with a guy I want to doSky-

Can we be friends? =P

Just kidding. I don't want to be friends with you. (Kidding again obviously)

Oh you joker you. :)

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#31 Diablo112688
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Sounds like your parents are wealthy and you haven't worked for a day in your life... or perhaps you had a part time job... we are not impressed.
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#32 cody3232
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It seems like you're not making the move and, you are waiting for her to or something... i dunno a guess on my part. But if this is the case don't do that.

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#33 th3warr1or
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You just seem completley full of yourself.

You are saying that this guy shouldn't have a girlfriend because he has less money than you?

You seem angry that these girls aren't throwing themselves at you because you think you are perfect. You watch too much television, perhaps, and your mind has been twisted into thinking that girls only crave guys with money and are good looking. I've seen plenty of people who would be put into the "unattractive" category to most of you, who have girlfriends. Crack out of this little fake shell of yours. Act like a human being. If you like a girl then tell her. Don't flaunt yourself around and assume they will lunge at you. They won't. And if they do, then they are just as lost as you are. Ignorance is bliss, i suppose.

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You have a point, but no. I dislike this guy because he tried blackmailing me and crap. I'm not judging him based on his looks or whether he's inferior to me or not.
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#34 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"] I've known her for around half a year, and I've made it pretty clear [I think] that I like her, and I want to be there for her and stuff... and I'm pretty sure she got that too. I'm not expecting her to like me for my money (I've actually had quite a few of those, but it's a purely personal choice that I turn that down), because if I did I wouldn't still be single.

You think? You've made it clear that you want to be there for her and stuff? You put yourself in the friend zone with that way of speaking man. Like I always say - NEVER put the ***** on the pedestal. Do not EVER promise those to her until she is your girlfriend unless all you really want to do is remain friends. If you "think" you made it clear then you didn't. Making it clear is straight up asking her out. DO IT.

Alright lol, tomorrow then.

Best of luck! The worst that can happen is she turns you down - and you be cool with it and remain friends and this allows you to move on to another girl and not waste your time investing in something since its clear that its not happening. And then if she says yes, then you can plan for the awesome date :)
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So why the hell am I on the friend zone with like every chick I know? It's kind of depressing really. Some friends tell me it's because I'm not big enough of a douchebag, but I'm not going to take that advice since the last time I behaved like a complete douchebag, she just got really angry.

I must really be doing something wrong because this guy whom (I am told) I am better looking than, WAY richer than, and smarter too has absolutely no problem transitioning from being best friends for like 8years into douchebag boyfriend.

I'm smart enough to think I stand a good chance of getting into Yale, and I'm NOT a nerd. th3warr1or

Your attractiveness isn't about how great you are; it's about how great they are. That is, you have to make them feel that they're great. You're smart? Compliment them in a way they aren't usually complimented. Use your wit but don't let it fly over their heads. You're wealthy? Show her a nice time but don't be ostentatious about it. You're nice? Then treat them as an end in themselves and not as a means to whatever ends you have. As others have said, be explicit in letting them know you view them romantically or sexually.

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#36 fidosim
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Not that i'm a relationship expert or anything, but you ought to show some initiative. If you want to go out with her, don't just try to drop hints. That's what women do. You're a man. Ask her out. If you want the woman, be a man.
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#37 th3warr1or
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Not that i'm a relationship expert or anything, but you ought to show some initiative. If you want to go out with her, don't just try to drop hints. That's what women do. You're a man. Ask her out. If you want the woman, be a man.fidosim

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]So why the hell am I on the friend zone with like every chick I know? It's kind of depressing really. Some friends tell me it's because I'm not big enough of a douchebag, but I'm not going to take that advice since the last time I behaved like a complete douchebag, she just got really angry.

I must really be doing something wrong because this guy whom (I am told) I am better looking than, WAY richer than, and smarter too has absolutely no problem transitioning from being best friends for like 8years into douchebag boyfriend.

I'm smart enough to think I stand a good chance of getting into Yale, and I'm NOT a nerd. philonious_matt

Your attractiveness isn't about how great you are; it's about how great they are. That is, you have to make them feel that they're great. You're smart? Compliment them in a way they aren't usually complimented. Use your wit but don't let it fly over their heads. You're wealthy? Show her a nice time but don't be ostentatious about it. You're nice? Then treat them as an end in themselves and not as a means to whatever ends you have. As others have said, be explicit in letting them know you view them romantically or sexually.

Sounds like good advice. I'll take it. :) Thanks.
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#38 th3warr1or
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Not sound rude, but you do sound a bit... egotisitc the way you present the topic. "I'm rich, I am very attractive, I'm kind-hearted, and I'm very intelligent. Why do people not go out with me if I am so superior?1!!1" Don't have a big ego, don't just expect people to treat you extremely well because you have some nice traits, be confident, and you'll do fine.enterawesome
What's the difference in between confident and over-confident. I mean when you're over-confident but you actually have the things you're confident about, that just makes you egoistical, but then where do you draw the line at?

If I'm just confident of my abilities, does that make me egoistical or proud?
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#39 JustPlainLucas
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Well... if you're not poor, stupid, ugly or an ass, maybe you should be poor, stupid, ugly and an ass?

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#40 th3warr1or
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Well... if you're not poor, stupid, ugly or an ass, maybe you should be rich, dumb, handsome and an ass?JustPlainLucas
Sounds like a plan. I am somewhat extremely sarcastic though, maybe that's the problem.
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#41 entropyecho
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Well... if you're not poor, stupid, ugly or an ass, maybe you should be poor, stupid, ugly and an ass?

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#42 astrozombie37
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I think you should be nice and not act like a douchebag. Just give her signs that you want to be with her. Flirt and stuff :D Be confident but not cocky.

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#43 Bloodseeker23
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[QUOTE="one_plum"]Women crave confidence. And a-holes tend to show lots of it, that's why it appears that girls prefer to hang out with them. If you haven't shown obvious signs of interest to a woman, then you should do it quite soon.Sajedene
This. It's great to be friends with girls - but if you're interested in someone - don't wait for it to get there before making a move. It's like investing in a failed company.

Funny to say, but I have invested quite a lot in my past, can't blame my self :(

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#44 th3warr1or
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I think you should be nice and not act like a douchebag. Just give her signs that you want to be with her. Flirt and stuff :D Be confident but not cocky.

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I really don't get the difference. I'm not actually behaving like I have things that I don't.
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#45 Pvt_r3d
Member since 2006 • 7901 Posts
[QUOTE="one_plum"]Women crave confidence. And a-holes tend to show lots of it, that's why it appears that girls prefer to hang out with them. If you haven't shown obvious signs of interest to a woman, then you should do it quite soon.

Aye, you don't know how many times I could tell a woman was interested in me but all I did was shy away. They all eventually stopped seeing me.
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#46 Sky-
Member since 2010 • 4682 Posts

Oh you joker you. :)

Sajedene

Saje, I like you, but I don't like you like you. =P

TC, I have just performed a wonderful demonstration with my lovely partner in crime, Sajedene, on how to break the ice. I think(or hope) that Saje and I are now friends. Women love people who have a way with words and who have the courage to put themselves in the fire when most normal people would shy away from that. Sometimes, I say some crazy **** that blows peoples' minds.

My final word: It's all about the panty-dropper lines. And to formulate those, you need good source material. I suggest watching chick flicks and other romantic forms of media and start busting out those lines.

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#47 DigitalExile
Member since 2008 • 16046 Posts

Well you may not be poor, stupid, ugly or an ass, but are you funny and interesting?

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#48 Omni-Slash
Member since 2003 • 54450 Posts
just a side note....I know plenty of "nice guys" who are shallow pricks...... and it's rather strange to think you're attractive....usually the proof is in the pudding.....girls will date a "nice guy" as long as he's good looking and not completely socially inept.....
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Member since 2007 • 20637 Posts

Well you may not be poor, stupid, ugly or an ass, but are you funny and interesting?

DigitalExile
Funny and interesting... Um, I've got no idea really.. Which I guess means no.
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#50 one_plum
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[QUOTE="one_plum"]Women crave confidence. And a-holes tend to show lots of it, that's why it appears that girls prefer to hang out with them. If you haven't shown obvious signs of interest to a woman, then you should do it quite soon.Pvt_r3d
Aye, you don't know how many times I could tell a woman was interested in me but all I did was shy away. They all eventually stopped seeing me.

It seems like you have the "looks" department covered already.