Immoral "Religious" people are the biggest hypocrites in existence

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How many people do you know that go to church and/or claim to be Christian, Muslim, ect.. but don't follow their own rules? Yes, we are all fallible, imperfect creatures.. but you can usually tell when someone is at least trying to do things the way that they purport to believe is the right way. I know that Christians were instructed to avoid judging others, and to basically mind their own business, aside from preaching the good news about God. However, it's difficult to ignore the number of people who seem to think that they can go do whatever the **** they want to do and go confess/pray it all away. Sexual immorality, illegal activities, dishonesty, you name it. It really disgusts me when I look around and see so many people who say one thing and then do another. At least a person who doesn't claim to be a devout believer in a strict moral code isn't breaking their own rules and looking like a total phony.

So, what do you think? Can you think of a worse example of hypocrisy? How many religious people do you know that seem like they really are trying to live their lives in accordance with the morals and rules that they claim to believe in?

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#2 jerk-o-tron2000
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A bunch, but whatever........

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I'm pretty sure I know why they're immoral...

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I............... agree(?) That's creepy.
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I don't care if they are hypocrites, until they start to legislate morality. See: any politican with a conservative agenda who was caught in a sexual scandal.

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I don't care if they are hypocrites, until they start to legislate morality. See: any politican with a conservative agenda who was caught in a sexual scandal.

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Yeah, those came to mind.

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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

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I didn't say that Democrats are immune to scandal. Democrats are less likely to be espousing and legislating religious-style morality, however.

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I don't care if they are hypocrites, until they start to legislate morality. See: any politican with a conservative agenda who was caught in a sexual scandal.

jimkabrhel
Oh god, the politicians who oppose gay marriage and then get caught humping a male hooker in their car. Those guys are jerks. Most religious people who are hypocrites are jerks without the being religious part anyway. But yeah they're pretty hypocritical.
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Can you think of a worse example of hypocrisy? How many religious people do you know that seem like they really are trying to live their lives in accordance with the morals and rules that they claim to believe in?hartsickdiscipl
Everyone sins. Even those who we say are "hypocrites". What we should do as Christians is to help, because we have all fallen short.
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I agree. They should stop judging people for the same wrongs that they're doing.
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At least as far as Christianity is concerned, I'm pretty sure following a strict moral code to the letter hasn't been a requirement for a few thousand years.

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#13 nintendofreak_2
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I know plenty myself, and it's hilarious when they look down on me for being an "immoral atheist" when the only thing they could hold over my head is that I've had premarital sex, which is nothing compared to them. It's a joke and is just as you said, hypocrisy at it's finest.

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At least as far as Christianity is concerned, I'm pretty sure following a strict moral code to the letter hasn't been a requirement for a few thousand years.

miriPlays

Really? Because I just checked my Bible, and it didn't change.

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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"] Can you think of a worse example of hypocrisy? How many religious people do you know that seem like they really are trying to live their lives in accordance with the morals and rules that they claim to believe in?champion837
Everyone sins. Even those who we say are "hypocrites". What we should do as Christians is to help, because we have all fallen short.

Yes, we do all fall short. However, there are still people who don't lie, cheat, steal, kill, etc, and then there are those who blatantly do those things while claiming to be Christian or another religion that forbids these things. That's the difference. We all falter from time to time, but some make it a way of life. The worst part is that many of them try to cover it up and act like all is well.

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There was a religious guy on "To Catch a Predator" who loved Jesus and God but was soliciting sex from a minor.

Everyone's a hypocrite, even when they don't impose their morality on you.

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There was a religious guy on "To Catch a Predator" who loved Jesus and God but was soliciting sex from a minor.

Everyone's a hypocrite, even when they don't impose their morality on you.

leviathan91
I dunno, sounds like a normal catholic priest to me.
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In other news, Aliens.
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[QUOTE="leviathan91"]

There was a religious guy on "To Catch a Predator" who loved Jesus and God but was soliciting sex from a minor.

Everyone's a hypocrite, even when they don't impose their morality on you.

l4dak47

I dunno, sounds like a normal catholic priest to me.

Yeah, he wasn't such a bad guy. After all, Jesus didn't set an age limit for sex.

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You can do whatever you want, whenever you want, when you're part of Epsilonism, so long as you follow the 12 Tennets of Kifflom!

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I know that Christians were instructed to avoid judging others, and to basically mind their own business, aside from preaching the good news about God. \

hartsickdiscipl

That is not a teaching of Christianity at all. In Matthew 7 Christ is actually teaching you how to judge. He teaches how to avoid hypocritcal judgment. Christianity also teaches that the biggest hypocrite is the one we look at in the mirror every day.

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At least they don't believe that god is an alien. ALL HAIL XENU!

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At least they don't believe that god is an alien. ALL HAIL XENU!

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Christianity also teaches that the biggest hypocrite is the one we look at in the mirror every day.maheo30
I knew there was something wrong with that guy. Seriously who wears a suit like that in this day and age...
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I know that Christians were instructed to avoid judging others, and to basically mind their own business, aside from preaching the good news about God. \

maheo30

That is not a teaching of Christianity at all. In Matthew 7 Christ is actually teaching you how to judge. He teaches how to avoid hypocritcal judgment. Christianity also teaches that the biggest hypocrite is the one we look at in the mirror every day.

You mean yourself or the creepy guy that stands behind you, but is never there when you turn around?
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[QUOTE="maheo30"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I know that Christians were instructed to avoid judging others, and to basically mind their own business, aside from preaching the good news about God. \

miriPlays

That is not a teaching of Christianity at all. In Matthew 7 Christ is actually teaching you how to judge. He teaches how to avoid hypocritcal judgment. Christianity also teaches that the biggest hypocrite is the one we look at in the mirror every day.

You mean yourself or the creepy guy that stands behind you, but is never there when you turn around?

Ha! Beat you to the punch! Everybody getting on the mirror joke train.
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I know that Christians were instructed to avoid judging others, and to basically mind their own business, aside from preaching the good news about God. \

maheo30

That is not a teaching of Christianity at all. In Matthew 7 Christ is actually teaching you how to judge. He teaches how to avoid hypocritcal judgment. Christianity also teaches that the biggest hypocrite is the one we look at in the mirror every day.

So are vampires not hypocrites? :o:P

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[QUOTE="miriPlays"][QUOTE="maheo30"]

That is not a teaching of Christianity at all. In Matthew 7 Christ is actually teaching you how to judge. He teaches how to avoid hypocritcal judgment. Christianity also teaches that the biggest hypocrite is the one we look at in the mirror every day.

Ace6301
You mean yourself or the creepy guy that stands behind you, but is never there when you turn around?

Ha! Beat you to the punch!

... Mine was better :P
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[QUOTE="theone86"]

At least they don't believe that god is an alien. ALL HAIL XENU!

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People do like to cherry pick.
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At least as far as Christianity is concerned, I'm pretty sure following a strict moral code to the letter hasn't been a requirement for a few thousand years.

hartsickdiscipl

Really? Because I just checked my Bible, and it didn't change.

Not to say that bad things aren't bad, but that's not the point.
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="miriPlays"]

At least as far as Christianity is concerned, I'm pretty sure following a strict moral code to the letter hasn't been a requirement for a few thousand years.

miriPlays

Really? Because I just checked my Bible, and it didn't change.

Not to say that bad things aren't bad, but that's not the point.

When someone tells you that something is bad, and that you shouldn't do it.. that is the point.

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[QUOTE="miriPlays"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Really? Because I just checked my Bible, and it didn't change.

hartsickdiscipl

Not to say that bad things aren't bad, but that's not the point.

When someone tells you that something is bad, and that you shouldn't do it.. that is the point.

I should also stone people. Kay.

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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="miriPlays"] Not to say that bad things aren't bad, but that's not the point.wis3boi

When someone tells you that something is bad, and that you shouldn't do it.. that is the point.

I should also stone people. Kay.

You can stone me. In fact, let's get stoned together.

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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I know that Christians were instructed to avoid judging others, and to basically mind their own business, aside from preaching the good news about God. \

maheo30

That is not a teaching of Christianity at all. In Matthew 7 Christ is actually teaching you how to judge. He teaches how to avoid hypocritcal judgment. Christianity also teaches that the biggest hypocrite is the one we look at in the mirror every day.

That's not how I've understood Matthew 7, nor how I was taught to interpret it. I think you should re-read it.

"1Do not judge so that you will not be judged. 2For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. 3Why do you look at the speck that is in your brothers eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 4Or how can you say to your brother, Let me take the speck out of your eye, and behold, the log is in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brothers eye. "

Now, I could be wrong.. But I'm pretty sure that this is encouraging people to avoid judging.

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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="miriPlays"] Not to say that bad things aren't bad, but that's not the point.wis3boi

When someone tells you that something is bad, and that you shouldn't do it.. that is the point.

I should also stone people. Kay.

That was the Old Testament. Jesus laid a new foundation for Christian behavior during his ministry. Many things from the Old Testament days were more or less abolished through his teachings.

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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

When someone tells you that something is bad, and that you shouldn't do it.. that is the point.

theone86

I should also stone people. Kay.

You can stone me. In fact, let's get stoned together.

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[QUOTE="maheo30"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I know that Christians were instructed to avoid judging others, and to basically mind their own business, aside from preaching the good news about God. \

hartsickdiscipl

That is not a teaching of Christianity at all. In Matthew 7 Christ is actually teaching you how to judge. He teaches how to avoid hypocritcal judgment. Christianity also teaches that the biggest hypocrite is the one we look at in the mirror every day.

That's not how I've understood Matthew 7, nor how I was taught to interpret it. I think you should re-read it.

"1Do not judge so that you will not be judged. 2For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. 3Why do you look at the speck that is in your brothers eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 4Or how can you say to your brother, Let me take the speck out of your eye, and behold, the log is in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brothers eye. "

Now, I could be wrong.. But I'm pretty sure that this is encouraging people to avoid judging.

read verse 5. Christ condemns the hypocrite. What does he tell the hypocrite to do before taking the speck out of his brother's eye. Simple exegesis. The point is one must see clearly in order to judge righteously. A hypocrite cannot do that.
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Yeah because you totally know the true intentions of millions of people just by judging a few loons that made the news.:roll:

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How many people do you know that go to church and/or claim to be Christian, Muslim, ect.. but don't follow their own rules? Yes, we are all fallible, imperfect creatures.. but you can usually tell when someone is at least trying to do things the way that they purport to believe is the right way. I know that Christians were instructed to avoid judging others, and to basically mind their own business, aside from preaching the good news about God. However, it's difficult to ignore the number of people who seem to think that they can go do whatever the **** they want to do and go confess/pray it all away. Sexual immorality, illegal activities, dishonesty, you name it. It really disgusts me when I look around and see so many people who say one thing and then do another. At least a person who doesn't claim to be a devout believer in a strict moral code isn't breaking their own rules and looking like a total phony.

So, what do you think? Can you think of a worse example of hypocrisy? How many religious people do you know that seem like they really are trying to live their lives in accordance with the morals and rules that they claim to believe in?

hartsickdiscipl

I hope you aren't going to say you're Christian because you sure are judging people......

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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

When someone tells you that something is bad, and that you shouldn't do it.. that is the point.

theone86

I should also stone people. Kay.

You can stone me. In fact, let's get stoned together.

Can I join?
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I know that Christians were instructed to avoid judging others, and to basically mind their own business, aside from preaching the good news about God. \

maheo30

That is not a teaching of Christianity at all. In Matthew 7 Christ is actually teaching you how to judge. He teaches how to avoid hypocritcal judgment. Christianity also teaches that the biggest hypocrite is the one we look at in the mirror every day.

Great post. This is basically what I wanted to bring up first after reading the topic. As for addressing the rest, the world is full of hypocrites, no matter where you look. The best each individual can do before anything else is to look at oneself and fix one's own faulta to the extent that is possible.
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

How many people do you know that go to church and/or claim to be Christian, Muslim, ect.. but don't follow their own rules? Yes, we are all fallible, imperfect creatures.. but you can usually tell when someone is at least trying to do things the way that they purport to believe is the right way. I know that Christians were instructed to avoid judging others, and to basically mind their own business, aside from preaching the good news about God. However, it's difficult to ignore the number of people who seem to think that they can go do whatever the **** they want to do and go confess/pray it all away. Sexual immorality, illegal activities, dishonesty, you name it. It really disgusts me when I look around and see so many people who say one thing and then do another. At least a person who doesn't claim to be a devout believer in a strict moral code isn't breaking their own rules and looking like a total phony.

So, what do you think? Can you think of a worse example of hypocrisy? How many religious people do you know that seem like they really are trying to live their lives in accordance with the morals and rules that they claim to believe in?

LJS9502_basic

I hope you aren't going to say you're Christian because you sure are judging people......

Pretty sure the guy worships UFOs

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[QUOTE="miriPlays"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Really? Because I just checked my Bible, and it didn't change.

hartsickdiscipl

Not to say that bad things aren't bad, but that's not the point.

When someone tells you that something is bad, and that you shouldn't do it.. that is the point.

No. Christianity isn't a set of rules.
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[QUOTE="maheo30"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I know that Christians were instructed to avoid judging others, and to basically mind their own business, aside from preaching the good news about God. \

Assassin_87

That is not a teaching of Christianity at all. In Matthew 7 Christ is actually teaching you how to judge. He teaches how to avoid hypocritcal judgment. Christianity also teaches that the biggest hypocrite is the one we look at in the mirror every day.

Great post. This is basically what I wanted to bring up first after reading the topic. As for addressing the rest, the world is full of hypocrites, no matter where you look. The best each individual can do before anything else is to look at oneself and fix one's own faulta to the extent that is possible.

Judge not lest ye be judged pretty much says it all.
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#47 LJS9502_basic
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How many people do you know that go to church and/or claim to be Christian, Muslim, ect.. but don't follow their own rules? Yes, we are all fallible, imperfect creatures.. but you can usually tell when someone is at least trying to do things the way that they purport to believe is the right way. I know that Christians were instructed to avoid judging others, and to basically mind their own business, aside from preaching the good news about God. However, it's difficult to ignore the number of people who seem to think that they can go do whatever the **** they want to do and go confess/pray it all away. Sexual immorality, illegal activities, dishonesty, you name it. It really disgusts me when I look around and see so many people who say one thing and then do another. At least a person who doesn't claim to be a devout believer in a strict moral code isn't breaking their own rules and looking like a total phony.

So, what do you think? Can you think of a worse example of hypocrisy? How many religious people do you know that seem like they really are trying to live their lives in accordance with the morals and rules that they claim to believe in?

wis3boi

I hope you aren't going to say you're Christian because you sure are judging people......

Pretty sure the guy worships UFOs

His nightly prayers are Beam me up Scotty.....
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#48 maheo30
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I know that Christians were instructed to avoid judging others, and to basically mind their own business, aside from preaching the good news about God. \

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That is not a teaching of Christianity at all. In Matthew 7 Christ is actually teaching you how to judge. He teaches how to avoid hypocritcal judgment. Christianity also teaches that the biggest hypocrite is the one we look at in the mirror every day.

Great post. This is basically what I wanted to bring up first after reading the topic. As for addressing the rest, the world is full of hypocrites, no matter where you look. The best each individual can do before anything else is to look at oneself and fix one's own faulta to the extent that is possible.

Exactly. in verses 15-19 Jesus teach the discples how to judge false teachers. How anyone comes up with the "judge not" from this chapter is mind blowing.
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#50 maheo30
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[QUOTE="Assassin_87"][QUOTE="maheo30"]

That is not a teaching of Christianity at all. In Matthew 7 Christ is actually teaching you how to judge. He teaches how to avoid hypocritcal judgment. Christianity also teaches that the biggest hypocrite is the one we look at in the mirror every day.

LJS9502_basic
Great post. This is basically what I wanted to bring up first after reading the topic. As for addressing the rest, the world is full of hypocrites, no matter where you look. The best each individual can do before anything else is to look at oneself and fix one's own faulta to the extent that is possible.

Judge not lest ye be judged pretty much says it all.

Read verse 5. Then read verses 15-19 where he teaches the disciples to judge. Context matters.