Intruder shot and killed!!!

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I get home yesterday to about 20 cop cars right down the street from my house. I was like wow something happened. So i stopped and asked a by stander who had been watching and they said all they could see was someone come out of the front door covered in blood with his hands up. SO i went about my business (this is around 5:30) and about 7:00 there were still around 10 cops at the house so i was really wandering what was going on. I watched the news later that night and someone had broke into the house and the home owner confronted him and then shot and killed him. They are still investigating everything.

Do you think what he did was right or wrong?

Eh. Depends. Home invasion is ****ed up stuff though.

If the robber guy didn't have a weapon or intend violence, then it's pretty messed up.

Read the story....

The guy hadn't even got into the house yet? That seems like the home owner might be in trouble, I'm not sure how the law works.

Should've shot him in the leg.

Eh. Depends. Home invasion is ****ed up stuff though.

If the robber guy didn't have a weapon or intend violence, then it's pretty messed up.

Jandurin

Agree i think that is what they are investigating but the thing the home owner has going for him is there is no one to testify against him.

The law was wrong for allowing him to have a gun.SolidSnake35

How is owning a gun wrong?

and the intruder was shot and killed by the homeowner

The law was wrong for allowing him to have a gun.SolidSnake35

Careful saying that around here.

It'd be one thing if this was a new thing and the criminal was unarmed, but it isnt a new thing. Nowadays, everyone knows that people are willing and legally capable of making your innards come out with a shotgun blast if you break into your house. So if a criminal breaks into someones house, hell, i'd shoot him. I'm not going to ask him to let me pat him down and check him for a gun, if i see a masked guy bash the door open and run quickly into the house, i'm going to blow his ****ing brains out.Tolwan

Why? You could just wound him.

Eh... "attempting to enter his home"...

I would have just pointed a gun at him and told him to **** off. The "intruder" was posing no real threat so he didnt really deserve to die.

[QUOTE="Tolwan"]It'd be one thing if this was a new thing and the criminal was unarmed, but it isnt a new thing. Nowadays, everyone knows that people are willing and legally capable of making your innards come out with a shotgun blast if you break into your house. So if a criminal breaks into someones house, hell, i'd shoot him. I'm not going to ask him to let me pat him down and check him for a gun, if i see a masked guy bash the door open and run quickly into the house, i'm going to blow his ****ing brains out.james28893

Why? You could just wound him.

What happens if he is own drugs like all hopped up and you shot him to wound him then he kills you?

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]The law was wrong for allowing him to have a gun.wkutopper6

How is owning a gun wrong?

and the intruder was shot and killed by the homeowner

[QUOTE="james28893"]

[QUOTE="Tolwan"]It'd be one thing if this was a new thing and the criminal was unarmed, but it isnt a new thing. Nowadays, everyone knows that people are willing and legally capable of making your innards come out with a shotgun blast if you break into your house. So if a criminal breaks into someones house, hell, i'd shoot him. I'm not going to ask him to let me pat him down and check him for a gun, if i see a masked guy bash the door open and run quickly into the house, i'm going to blow his ****ing brains out.wkutopper6

Why? You could just wound him.

What happens if he is own drugs like all hopped up and you shot him to wound him then he kills you?

Shoot the dude in the crotch, he wouldn't get up, or shoot him in both legs, or both arms, or both hands, these shots would all incapacitate him and he would no longer be a threat (I've trained with guns).

[QUOTE="wkutopper6"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]The law was wrong for allowing him to have a gun.frankyfitz

How is owning a gun wrong?

and the intruder was shot and killed by the homeowner

I never said i thought the guy shouldn't have a gun i asked other peoples opinion. I think it is perfectly fine to own a gun. I own loads of them back home but at college i only have on handgun with me. But say the home owner didnt have one but the intruder did. This would be a different story and in my eyes worse. He knew there wereconsequencesto his actions.

I am not happy the guy is dead by any means

[QUOTE="Tolwan"]It'd be one thing if this was a new thing and the criminal was unarmed, but it isnt a new thing. Nowadays, everyone knows that people are willing and legally capable of making your innards come out with a shotgun blast if you break into your house. So if a criminal breaks into someones house, hell, i'd shoot him. I'm not going to ask him to let me pat him down and check him for a gun, if i see a masked guy bash the door open and run quickly into the house, i'm going to blow his ****ing brains out.james28893

Why? You could just wound him.

A wounded man can still shoot a gun, and a wounded man is more likely to.

[QUOTE="wkutopper6"][QUOTE="james28893"]

[QUOTE="Tolwan"]It'd be one thing if this was a new thing and the criminal was unarmed, but it isnt a new thing. Nowadays, everyone knows that people are willing and legally capable of making your innards come out with a shotgun blast if you break into your house. So if a criminal breaks into someones house, hell, i'd shoot him. I'm not going to ask him to let me pat him down and check him for a gun, if i see a masked guy bash the door open and run quickly into the house, i'm going to blow his ****ing brains out.james28893

Why? You could just wound him.

What happens if he is own drugs like all hopped up and you shot him to wound him then he kills you?

Shoot the dude in the crotch, he wouldn't get up, or shoot him in both legs, or both arms, or both hands, these shots would all incapacitate him and he would no longer be a threat (I've trained with guns).

I completely understand what you are saying (i shoot guns all the time) but what if it was someone who didnt? I completely understand i dont think shooting to kill is the best way to go about it at all but i would not hesitate shooting someone who was a threat to me. I would not be shooting to kill them though.

[QUOTE="james28893"]

[QUOTE="Tolwan"]It'd be one thing if this was a new thing and the criminal was unarmed, but it isnt a new thing. Nowadays, everyone knows that people are willing and legally capable of making your innards come out with a shotgun blast if you break into your house. So if a criminal breaks into someones house, hell, i'd shoot him. I'm not going to ask him to let me pat him down and check him for a gun, if i see a masked guy bash the door open and run quickly into the house, i'm going to blow his ****ing brains out.Tolwan

Why? You could just wound him.

A wounded man can still shoot a gun, and a wounded man is more likely to.

Read what I said above, those normally incapacitate.

[QUOTE="wkutopper6"][QUOTE="james28893"]

[QUOTE="Tolwan"]It'd be one thing if this was a new thing and the criminal was unarmed, but it isnt a new thing. Nowadays, everyone knows that people are willing and legally capable of making your innards come out with a shotgun blast if you break into your house. So if a criminal breaks into someones house, hell, i'd shoot him. I'm not going to ask him to let me pat him down and check him for a gun, if i see a masked guy bash the door open and run quickly into the house, i'm going to blow his ****ing brains out.james28893

Why? You could just wound him.

What happens if he is own drugs like all hopped up and you shot him to wound him then he kills you?

Shoot the dude in the crotch, he wouldn't get up, or shoot him in both legs, or both arms, or both hands, these shots would all incapacitate him and he would no longer be a threat (I've trained with guns).

Well, military training dictates shoot center mass, and there's a reason for that. You dont have *time* to go for each limb. All it takes is 2 seconds for him to point it at you and shoot. He can do that even while on the ground with half his leg blown off.

[QUOTE="james28893"][QUOTE="wkutopper6"][QUOTE="james28893"]

[QUOTE="Tolwan"]It'd be one thing if this was a new thing and the criminal was unarmed, but it isnt a new thing. Nowadays, everyone knows that people are willing and legally capable of making your innards come out with a shotgun blast if you break into your house. So if a criminal breaks into someones house, hell, i'd shoot him. I'm not going to ask him to let me pat him down and check him for a gun, if i see a masked guy bash the door open and run quickly into the house, i'm going to blow his ****ing brains out.wkutopper6

Why? You could just wound him.

What happens if he is own drugs like all hopped up and you shot him to wound him then he kills you?

Shoot the dude in the crotch, he wouldn't get up, or shoot him in both legs, or both arms, or both hands, these shots would all incapacitate him and he would no longer be a threat (I've trained with guns).

I completely understand what you are saying (i shoot guns all the time) but what if it was someone who didnt? I completely understand i dont think shooting to kill is the best way to go about it at all but i would not hesitate shooting someone who was a threat to me. I would not be shooting to kill them though.

If it was someone who didn't understand where to shoot, call the police, wait for them, if the intruder directly becomes a threat then shoot him.

I completely understand what you are saying (i shoot guns all the time) but what if it was someone who didnt? I completely understand i dont think shooting to kill is the best way to go about it at all but i would not hesitate shooting someone who was a threat to me. I would not be shooting to kill them though.

wkutopper6

thats what all people says.........u never know how its gonna end up.

the inturder could have a bomb for all we know:P....but thats highly unlikely.....

[QUOTE="wkutopper6"]

I completely understand what you are saying (i shoot guns all the time) but what if it was someone who didnt? I completely understand i dont think shooting to kill is the best way to go about it at all but i would not hesitate shooting someone who was a threat to me. I would not be shooting to kill them though.

Piesics

Then they shouldn't have a gun in the first place. If you want that kind of power, you should be prepared to hold the responsiblity for its effects.

My mom isnt the best shooter in the world but there is a gun my parents keep loaded beside the bed and if my dad was not there and my mom was keeping my nephew which she does about everyday she would shoot some one who entered the house without hesitation to protect him. If you have something or someone to protect you will dounbelievablethings

over here in the uk i know its legal to kill someone if they enter your house, but apparently only if they go upstairs..

kinda weird but i think thats it

over here in the uk i know its legal to kill someone if they enter your house, but apparently only if they go upstairs..

kinda weird but i think thats it

perfect_chao

if someone comes more than 5 feet into your house in the US it is legal

in these situations they try to decide whether it was self-defense. The largest indicator is the entry point of the bullet. If a it enters in the front than the intruder was facing the shooter and you have a much better chance of claiming self defense. If the bullet enters his back then there is no self defense because the intruder is facing the opposite way. In that case it's murder and the homeowner would be in trouble.

The things you learn in biz law...

The things you learn in biz law...

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effthat

"its like going god mode in doom3 but die when u got push down into hellholes...."

:lol:i got nothing better to say.........nvm this quote.....

[QUOTE="perfect_chao"]

over here in the uk i know its legal to kill someone if they enter your house, but apparently only if they go upstairs..

kinda weird but i think thats it

wkutopper6

if someone comes more than 5 feet into your house in the US it is legal

Haha, what a complete joke that is. So basically your own property is a shooting range.SolidSnake35

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SolidSnake35

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]Haha, what a complete joke that is. So basically your own property is a shooting range.Jandurin

Still ridiculous. Five feet is nothing, so, simple put, breaking into someone's house carries the death penalty.SolidSnake35

Simple rule, simple consequences.

The problem is, the invader might have a gun, so the homeowner HAS to feel secure in shooting them for fear of what they can do. All goes back to the availability of guns, I suppose.

Still ridiculous. Five feet is nothing, so, simply put, breaking into someone's house carries the death penalty.SolidSnake35

You don't have to shoot them. You can wait for them to kill your family.

It makes me laugh that so many people think the guy shooting a person that is forcing his way in is wrong. If you are dumb enough to break in to my house and try to bring harm to me or my property then you have no right to life. End of story. This country has become so soft on the criminal it is not even funny.blasto65_basic

The guy could've just fired out of a window, instead of shooting the guy, that would've scared him off for sure.

Why are people defending the intruder? Who cares that he's dead, that will teach people not to break into each others houses.

Besides the home owner probably panicked, I sure know that if a thief came into my house I wouldn't stall around waiting to aim for his crotch

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]Still ridiculous. Five feet is nothing, so, simply put, breaking into someone's house carries the death penalty.Godly_Cure

You don't have to shoot them. You can wait for them to kill your family.

Yeah, haven't you heard, every person who breaks into a house does it specifically to kill the occupants.

[QUOTE="blasto65_basic"]It makes me laugh that so many people think the guy shooting a person that is forcing his way in is wrong. If you are dumb enough to break in to my house and try to bring harm to me or my property then you have no right to life. End of story. This country has become so soft on the criminal it is not even funny.Jandurin

The guy could've just fired out of a window, instead of shooting the guy, that would've scared him off for sure.

Nope. Never pull out a gun unless you intend to use it. While you're shooting out the window the intruder can shoot you.

[QUOTE="wkutopper6"][QUOTE="perfect_chao"]

over here in the uk i know its legal to kill someone if they enter your house, but apparently only if they go upstairs..

kinda weird but i think thats it

SolidSnake35

if someone comes more than 5 feet into your house in the US it is legal

[QUOTE="blasto65_basic"]It makes me laugh that so many people think the guy shooting a person that is forcing his way in is wrong. If you are dumb enough to break in to my house and try to bring harm to me or my property then you have no right to life. End of story. This country has become so soft on the criminal it is not even funny.Jandurin

The guy could've just fired out of a window, instead of shooting the guy, that would've scared him off for sure.

But the intruder could have been armed.

[QUOTE="blasto65_basic"]It makes me laugh that so many people think the guy shooting a person that is forcing his way in is wrong. If you are dumb enough to break in to my house and try to bring harm to me or my property then you have no right to life. End of story. This country has become so soft on the criminal it is not even funny.Jandurin

The guy could've just fired out of a window, instead of shooting the guy, that would've scared him off for sure.

Scared him off what so he can do it again to some one else. Look if you try and enter with a bad intent on your mind you get what you deserve.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] Still ridiculous. Five feet is nothing, so, simple put, breaking into someone's house carries the death penalty.Jandurin

Simple rule, simple consequences.

The problem is, the invader might have a gun, so the homeowner HAS to feel secure in shooting them for fear of what they can do. All goes back to the availability of guns, I suppose.

Why are people defending the intruder? Who cares that he's dead, that will teach people not to break into each others houses.

Besides the home owner probably panicked, I sure know that if a thief came into my house I wouldn't stall around waiting to aim for his crotch

flowdee79

Breaking and entering doesn't derserve the death penalty.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="blasto65_basic"]It makes me laugh that so many people think the guy shooting a person that is forcing his way in is wrong. If you are dumb enough to break in to my house and try to bring harm to me or my property then you have no right to life. End of story. This country has become so soft on the criminal it is not even funny.blasto65_basic

The guy could've just fired out of a window, instead of shooting the guy, that would've scared him off for sure.

Scared him off what so he can do it again to some one else. Look if you try and enter with a bad intent on your mind you get what you deserve.