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To me there is almost no proof God exists so why believe it?666BumbleBee666almost no proof? that makes zero sense!
[QUOTE="666BumbleBee666"]To me there is almost no proof God exists so why believe it?ZumaJones07almost no proof? that makes zero sense! Well to me the pyramids are either proof of God or Aliens. I do not believe humans could have made those back then.
I'm an Agnostic. However, today I was looking at a couple of geese as they ate grass, and I marvelled at their ability to digest cellulose. It caused me to think that the complexities of life must necessitate a god, but then I snapped back to reality.
[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"][QUOTE="666BumbleBee666"]To me there is almost no proof God exists so why believe it?666BumbleBee666almost no proof? that makes zero sense! Well to me the pyramids are either proof of God or Aliens. I do not believe humans could have made those back then.
This thread climaxed quickly.:|
Geese are a joy to gander at. However they are just birds, I read somewhere that dinosaurs turned into birds during evolution... So they are probably so complex because of how long they have had to develop like many creatures. A divine entity and benevolent God is a joy to imagine though.I'm an Agnostic. However, today I was looking at a couple of geese as they ate grass, and I marvelled at their ability to digest cellulose. It caused me to think that the complexities of life must necessitate a god, but then I snapped back to reality.
BluRayHiDef
[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"][QUOTE="666BumbleBee666"]To me there is almost no proof God exists so why believe it?666BumbleBee666almost no proof? that makes zero sense! Well to me the pyramids are either proof of God or Aliens. I do not believe humans could have made those back then.
I see, so in theory you can be an Atheist and a Buddhist?Atheists reject the existence of deities.
Atheism is not a religion.
Being an atheist is not synonymous with being irreligious.
BygByron3
[QUOTE="BygByron3"]I see, so in theory you can be an Atheist and a Buddhist? Yes, and Buddhism is one of the most compatible religions with atheism since the Buddha did not claim to be in any way divine, nor does Buddhism involve the idea of a personal god.Atheists reject the existence of deities.
Atheism is not a religion.
Being an atheist is not synonymous with being irreligious.
666BumbleBee666
[QUOTE="666BumbleBee666"][QUOTE="BygByron3"]I see, so in theory you can be an Atheist and a Buddhist? Yes, and Buddhism is one of the most compatible religions with atheism since the Buddha did not claim to be in any way divine, nor does Buddhism involve the idea of a personal god. Is Scientology another one? I am not aware of their religion but I heard they believe in aliens and spirits but not necessarily deities?Atheists reject the existence of deities.
Atheism is not a religion.
Being an atheist is not synonymous with being irreligious.
BygByron3
To me there is almost no proof God exists so why believe it?666BumbleBee666What got you to such a conclusion?
[QUOTE="666BumbleBee666"]To me there is almost no proof God exists so why believe it?hiphops_saviorWhat got you to such a conclusion?
A lack of belief in the existence of a god or gods is the default state of mind. For example, if a child was born in the wilderness and grew up alone somehow, it would never come to believe in god. People only believe in god because they are taught to. If god is real and requires that we believe in him, he'd make it easy. For him to play these games while the fate of people's souls are on the line is just sick.
[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"][QUOTE="666BumbleBee666"]To me there is almost no proof God exists so why believe it?666BumbleBee666almost no proof? that makes zero sense! Well to me the pyramids are either proof of God or Aliens. I do not believe humans could have made those back then.
Holy sh!t. Sure didn't take long for this to turn into a Ancient Alien thread.
Tbh, The pyramids have become a poor and overused example to argue with.
I respect Atheism, but I believe there HAS to be a higher power of some kind. I believe in God, and mostly identify myself with the Christian religion. I used to be an Atheist. There may be no proof a higher power exists, but there's no proof that it doesnt. Sometimes I think even if every religion out there is actually wrong, doesnt mean that a higher power doesnt exists anyway. I hope I worded that right.carljohnson3456
Christianity has been proven to be false.
[QUOTE="666BumbleBee666"][QUOTE="BygByron3"]I see, so in theory you can be an Atheist and a Buddhist? Yes, and Buddhism is one of the most compatible religions with atheism since the Buddha did not claim to be in any way divine, nor does Buddhism involve the idea of a personal god.Atheists reject the existence of deities.
Atheism is not a religion.
Being an atheist is not synonymous with being irreligious.
BygByron3
True, I'd probably be a Buddist if I had to choose a religion.
[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]I respect Atheism, but I believe there HAS to be a higher power of some kind. I believe in God, and mostly identify myself with the Christian religion. I used to be an Atheist. There may be no proof a higher power exists, but there's no proof that it doesnt. Sometimes I think even if every religion out there is actually wrong, doesnt mean that a higher power doesnt exists anyway. I hope I worded that right.BluRayHiDef
Christianity has been proven to be false.
Did Islam also been proven false?[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]I respect Atheism, but I believe there HAS to be a higher power of some kind. I believe in God, and mostly identify myself with the Christian religion. I used to be an Atheist. There may be no proof a higher power exists, but there's no proof that it doesnt. Sometimes I think even if every religion out there is actually wrong, doesnt mean that a higher power doesnt exists anyway. I hope I worded that right.BluRayHiDef
Christianity has been proven to be false].
LOL.....man what a ridiculous post.[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]I respect Atheism, but I believe there HAS to be a higher power of some kind. I believe in God, and mostly identify myself with the Christian religion. I used to be an Atheist. There may be no proof a higher power exists, but there's no proof that it doesnt. Sometimes I think even if every religion out there is actually wrong, doesnt mean that a higher power doesnt exists anyway. I hope I worded that right.FMAB_GTO
Christianity has been proven to be false.
Did Islam also been proven false?I'm pretty sure there are similar video series for Islam. Just search for them.
[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]I respect Atheism, but I believe there HAS to be a higher power of some kind. I believe in God, and mostly identify myself with the Christian religion. I used to be an Atheist. There may be no proof a higher power exists, but there's no proof that it doesnt. Sometimes I think even if every religion out there is actually wrong, doesnt mean that a higher power doesnt exists anyway. I hope I worded that right.BluRayHiDef
Christianity has been proven to be false.
I wont even bother. I doubt the age old debate about religion has been settled via a YouTube video. I'm not close minded, but I've read every debate, heard everything, yada, yada. I dont believe everything in the bible. I dont believe a guy lived inside of a whale. I'm not a devoted Christian. I identify with the religion.[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]
[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]I respect Atheism, but I believe there HAS to be a higher power of some kind. I believe in God, and mostly identify myself with the Christian religion. I used to be an Atheist. There may be no proof a higher power exists, but there's no proof that it doesnt. Sometimes I think even if every religion out there is actually wrong, doesnt mean that a higher power doesnt exists anyway. I hope I worded that right.LJS9502_basic
Christianity has been proven to be false].
LOL.....man what a ridiculous post.While I don't think the Bible has been "proven" to be false, it still contradicts itself too many times for me to take it seriously.
I'm pretty sure there are similar video series for Islam. Just search for them.BluRayHiDefProbably just as ridiculous.....right?
[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]I respect Atheism, but I believe there HAS to be a higher power of some kind. I believe in God, and mostly identify myself with the Christian religion. I used to be an Atheist. There may be no proof a higher power exists, but there's no proof that it doesnt. Sometimes I think even if every religion out there is actually wrong, doesnt mean that a higher power doesnt exists anyway. I hope I worded that right.carljohnson3456
Christianity has been proven to be false.
I wont even bother. I doubt the age old debate about religion has been settled via a YouTube video. I'm not close minded, but I've read every debate, heard everything, yada, yada. I dont believe everything in the bible. I dont believe a guy lived inside of a whale. I'm not a devoted Christian. I identify with the religion.My dude, at least watch the first video. He raises some very good points and uses the Bible as the basis for his arguments. He points out misquoted and misattributed quotes from the Old Testament which are used in the New Testament as supposed proof that Jesus fullfilled messianic prophecies. He also points out quotes which were simply made up. I'm telling you, the guy has some very irrefutable points. Just be open minded.
[QUOTE="Rick_Sure"]
Atheism has not set of rules. No is the answer.
Philokalia
Theres only one rule.
Actually, there are three rules.
I wont even bother. I doubt the age old debate about religion has been settled via a YouTube video. I'm not close minded, but I've read every debate, heard everything, yada, yada. I dont believe everything in the bible. I dont believe a guy lived inside of a whale. I'm not a devoted Christian. I identify with the religion.[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]
Christianity has been proven to be false.
BluRayHiDef
My dude, at least watch the first video. He raises some very good points and uses the Bible as the basis for his arguments. He points out misquoted and misattributed quotes from the Old Testament which are used in the New Testament as supposed proof that Jesus fullfilled messianic prophecies. He also points out quotes which were simply made up. I'm telling you, the guy has some very irrefutable points. Just be open minded.
I am man. I dont believe everything in the bible. I know it contradicts its self over and over. It was written by man like me and you. At the end of the day I aint trying to change anybody's mind about religion. I believe there is a higher power, whether it's the Christian God, Jewish God, or Islamic God... or maybe a whole other entity all together.[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] I wont even bother. I doubt the age old debate about religion has been settled via a YouTube video. I'm not close minded, but I've read every debate, heard everything, yada, yada. I dont believe everything in the bible. I dont believe a guy lived inside of a whale. I'm not a devoted Christian. I identify with the religion. carljohnson3456
My dude, at least watch the first video. He raises some very good points and uses the Bible as the basis for his arguments. He points out misquoted and misattributed quotes from the Old Testament which are used in the New Testament as supposed proof that Jesus fullfilled messianic prophecies. He also points out quotes which were simply made up. I'm telling you, the guy has some very irrefutable points. Just be open minded.
I am man. I dont believe everything in the bible. I know it contradicts its self over and over. It was written by man like me and you. At the end of the day I aint trying to change anybody's mind about religion. I believe there is a higher power, whether it's the Christian God, Jewish God, or Islamic God... or maybe a whole other entity all together.You're contradicting yourself. You say that you believe (loosely) in Christianity. You can't do that. Either you believe or you don't; there's no middle ground. Also, how can you profess any degree of belief in a book that you know to be written/ made up by mere men? That's ludicrous.
I am man. I dont believe everything in the bible. I know it contradicts its self over and over. It was written by man like me and you. At the end of the day I aint trying to change anybody's mind about religion. I believe there is a higher power, whether it's the Christian God, Jewish God, or Islamic God... or maybe a whole other entity all together.[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]
My dude, at least watch the first video. He raises some very good points and uses the Bible as the basis for his arguments. He points out misquoted and misattributed quotes from the Old Testament which are used in the New Testament as supposed proof that Jesus fullfilled messianic prophecies. He also points out quotes which were simply made up. I'm telling you, the guy has some very irrefutable points. Just be open minded.
BluRayHiDef
You're contradicting yourself. You say that you believe (loosely) in Christianity. You can't do that. Either you believe or you don't; there's no middle ground. Also, how can you profess any degree of belief in a book that you know to be written/ made up by mere men? That's ludicrous.
What's ludicrous is you assuming people don't know men wrote the Bible.......In the end, there can be only one.BluRayHiDefNice Highlander reference. TC, I do not know what to believe, atheism seems right but if God exists I am pretty sure he would be pissed I would not follow him. Ugh and I know it is wrong to be feared into belief.
[QUOTE="Rick_Sure"]
Atheism has not set of rules. No is the answer.
Philokalia
Theres only one rule.
Which is why I said set. A belief can not be based around one rule. It is not set down by something or someone that is needed, It might be a common thing with Atheism but it is not demanded or asked for.[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]...In the end, there can be only one.unlovelyNice Highlander reference. TC, I do not know what to believe, atheism seems right but if God exists I am pretty sure he would be pissed I would not follow him. Ugh and I know it is wrong to be feared into belief.
As the more you realize religion is old world garbage, the easier it gets. I was the same way.
I am man. I dont believe everything in the bible. I know it contradicts its self over and over. It was written by man like me and you. At the end of the day I aint trying to change anybody's mind about religion. I believe there is a higher power, whether it's the Christian God, Jewish God, or Islamic God... or maybe a whole other entity all together.[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]
My dude, at least watch the first video. He raises some very good points and uses the Bible as the basis for his arguments. He points out misquoted and misattributed quotes from the Old Testament which are used in the New Testament as supposed proof that Jesus fullfilled messianic prophecies. He also points out quotes which were simply made up. I'm telling you, the guy has some very irrefutable points. Just be open minded.
BluRayHiDef
You're contradicting yourself. You say that you believe (loosely) in Christianity. You can't do that. Either you believe or you don't; there's no middle ground. Also, how can you profess any degree of belief in a book that you know to be written/ made up by mere men? That's ludicrous.
See man, this is what kills me about the religious debate with atheists and Christians, no offence. There is a middle ground dude. Ya know what that middle ground is? Saying "I dont know". The middle ground is saying "I'm only human, I cant possibly pretend like I know there is a higher power or not". That's exactly why I have my own beliefs and force them upon no one. :)[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] I am man. I dont believe everything in the bible. I know it contradicts its self over and over. It was written by man like me and you. At the end of the day I aint trying to change anybody's mind about religion. I believe there is a higher power, whether it's the Christian God, Jewish God, or Islamic God... or maybe a whole other entity all together. carljohnson3456
You're contradicting yourself. You say that you believe (loosely) in Christianity. You can't do that. Either you believe or you don't; there's no middle ground. Also, how can you profess any degree of belief in a book that you know to be written/ made up by mere men? That's ludicrous.
See man, this is what kills me about the religious debate with atheists and Christians, no offence. There is a middle ground dude. Ya know what that middle ground is? Saying "I dont know". The middle ground is saying "I'm only human, I cant possibly pretend like I know there is a higher power or not". That's exactly why I have my own beliefs and force them upon no one. :)Agreed. Not everyone sees things in black and white. Imo thinking in absolutes is a bad mindset.
[QUOTE="Philokalia"]
[QUOTE="Rick_Sure"]
Atheism has not set of rules. No is the answer.
BluRayHiDef
Theres only one rule.
Actually, there are three rules.
:lol:
[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] I am man. I dont believe everything in the bible. I know it contradicts its self over and over. It was written by man like me and you. At the end of the day I aint trying to change anybody's mind about religion. I believe there is a higher power, whether it's the Christian God, Jewish God, or Islamic God... or maybe a whole other entity all together. carljohnson3456
You're contradicting yourself. You say that you believe (loosely) in Christianity. You can't do that. Either you believe or you don't; there's no middle ground. Also, how can you profess any degree of belief in a book that you know to be written/ made up by mere men? That's ludicrous.
See man, this is what kills me about the religious debate with atheists and Christians, no offence. There is a middle ground dude. Ya know what that middle ground is? Saying "I dont know". The middle ground is saying "I'm only human, I cant possibly pretend like I know there is a higher power or not". That's exactly why I have my own beliefs and force them upon no one. :)You don't understand. From the Bible's perspective - the Bible being the foundation of Christianity - there is no middle ground. The Bible does not say that you can choose which parts of it to believe and which not to. It simply tells you what to do and recalls events that it expects you to believe. For example, as far as the Bible is concerned, Jesus was indeed dead for three days and then came back to life. You can't choose to believe this event if you're a Christian; you MUST believe in it. That's what I'm saying.
Also, as I said, since you know that the Bible is written/ made-up by men, why believe in ANY part of it? You know it's a fairy tale. Your "reasoning" makes no sense.
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