Is Atheism the true belief system of existence?

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#1 666BumbleBee666
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To me there is almost no proof God exists so why believe it?
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#2 FMAB_GTO
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Atheism is not a religion,but to answer your question,I don't think so.
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To me there is almost no proof God exists so why believe it?666BumbleBee666
almost no proof? that makes zero sense!
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[QUOTE="666BumbleBee666"]To me there is almost no proof God exists so why believe it?ZumaJones07
almost no proof? that makes zero sense!

Well to me the pyramids are either proof of God or Aliens. I do not believe humans could have made those back then.
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Viva Orthodoxy.

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I'm an Agnostic. However, today I was looking at a couple of geese as they ate grass, and I marvelled at their ability to digest cellulose. It caused me to think that the complexities of life must necessitate a god, but then I snapped back to reality.

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[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"][QUOTE="666BumbleBee666"]To me there is almost no proof God exists so why believe it?666BumbleBee666
almost no proof? that makes zero sense!

Well to me the pyramids are either proof of God or Aliens. I do not believe humans could have made those back then.

This thread climaxed quickly.:|

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#9 666BumbleBee666
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I'm an Agnostic. However, today I was looking at a couple of geese as they ate grass, and I marvelled at their ability to digest cellulose. It caused me to think that the complexities of life must necessitate a god, but then I snapped back to reality.

BluRayHiDef
Geese are a joy to gander at. However they are just birds, I read somewhere that dinosaurs turned into birds during evolution... So they are probably so complex because of how long they have had to develop like many creatures. A divine entity and benevolent God is a joy to imagine though.
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[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"][QUOTE="666BumbleBee666"]To me there is almost no proof God exists so why believe it?666BumbleBee666
almost no proof? that makes zero sense!

Well to me the pyramids are either proof of God or Aliens. I do not believe humans could have made those back then.

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#11 BygByron3
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Atheists reject the existence of deities.

Atheism is not a religion.

Being an atheist is not synonymous with being irreligious.

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#12 666BumbleBee666
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I never said Aliens on Gears, it is a possibility given the hieroglyphs and documentaries have speculated on the validity.

Atheists reject the existence of deities.

Atheism is not a religion.

Being an atheist is not synonymous with being irreligious.

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I see, so in theory you can be an Atheist and a Buddhist?
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#14 FMAB_GTO
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[QUOTE="666BumbleBee666"] Well to me the pyramids are either proof of God or Aliens. I do not believe humans could have made those back then.

Why? With the right engineering and tools,it's possible.
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#15 ghoklebutter
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I'm an atheist, but I don't think atheism is "the true religion of existence," as it isn't a religion in the first place.
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[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="666BumbleBee666"] Well to me the pyramids are either proof of God or Aliens. I do not believe humans could have made those back then.

Why? With the right engineering and tools,it's possible.

Sure it is possible but not probable. I mean they are really big things plus what was their purpose lol?
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#17 BygByron3
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[QUOTE="BygByron3"]

Atheists reject the existence of deities.

Atheism is not a religion.

Being an atheist is not synonymous with being irreligious.

666BumbleBee666
I see, so in theory you can be an Atheist and a Buddhist?

Yes, and Buddhism is one of the most compatible religions with atheism since the Buddha did not claim to be in any way divine, nor does Buddhism involve the idea of a personal god.
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I'm getting pretty tired of the **** government

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#19 FMAB_GTO
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[QUOTE="666BumbleBee666"][QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="666BumbleBee666"] Well to me the pyramids are either proof of God or Aliens. I do not believe humans could have made those back then.

Why? With the right engineering and tools,it's possible.

Sure it is possible but not probable. I mean they are really big things plus what was their purpose lol?

The Pharaohs thought it was funny hehe :P
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#20 666BumbleBee666
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[QUOTE="666BumbleBee666"][QUOTE="BygByron3"]

Atheists reject the existence of deities.

Atheism is not a religion.

Being an atheist is not synonymous with being irreligious.

BygByron3
I see, so in theory you can be an Atheist and a Buddhist?

Yes, and Buddhism is one of the most compatible religions with atheism since the Buddha did not claim to be in any way divine, nor does Buddhism involve the idea of a personal god.

Is Scientology another one? I am not aware of their religion but I heard they believe in aliens and spirits but not necessarily deities?
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[QUOTE="666BumbleBee666"][QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="666BumbleBee666"] Well to me the pyramids are either proof of God or Aliens. I do not believe humans could have made those back then.

Why? With the right engineering and tools,it's possible.

Sure it is possible but not probable. I mean they are really big things plus what was their purpose lol?

Tombs dude...tombs.:|
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To me there is almost no proof God exists so why believe it?666BumbleBee666
What got you to such a conclusion?
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#23 BygByron3
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[QUOTE="666BumbleBee666"][QUOTE="BygByron3"][QUOTE="666BumbleBee666"] I see, so in theory you can be an Atheist and a Buddhist?

Yes, and Buddhism is one of the most compatible religions with atheism since the Buddha did not claim to be in any way divine, nor does Buddhism involve the idea of a personal god.

Is Scientology another one? I am not aware of their religion but I heard they believe in aliens and spirits but not necessarily deities?

I don't know enough about Scientology to say so, but I've always considered Scientology a self-help charitable organization not really a religion.
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[QUOTE="666BumbleBee666"]To me there is almost no proof God exists so why believe it?hiphops_savior
What got you to such a conclusion?

A lack of belief in the existence of a god or gods is the default state of mind. For example, if a child was born in the wilderness and grew up alone somehow, it would never come to believe in god. People only believe in god because they are taught to. If god is real and requires that we believe in him, he'd make it easy. For him to play these games while the fate of people's souls are on the line is just sick.

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[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"][QUOTE="666BumbleBee666"]To me there is almost no proof God exists so why believe it?666BumbleBee666
almost no proof? that makes zero sense!

Well to me the pyramids are either proof of God or Aliens. I do not believe humans could have made those back then.

Holy sh!t. Sure didn't take long for this to turn into a Ancient Alien thread.

Tbh, The pyramids have become a poor and overused example to argue with.

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I respect Atheism, but I believe there HAS to be a higher power of some kind. I believe in God, and mostly identify myself with the Christian religion. I used to be an Atheist. There may be no proof a higher power exists, but there's no proof that it doesnt. Sometimes I think even if every religion out there is actually wrong, doesnt mean that a higher power doesnt exists anyway. I hope I worded that right.
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I respect Atheism, but I believe there HAS to be a higher power of some kind. I believe in God, and mostly identify myself with the Christian religion. I used to be an Atheist. There may be no proof a higher power exists, but there's no proof that it doesnt. Sometimes I think even if every religion out there is actually wrong, doesnt mean that a higher power doesnt exists anyway. I hope I worded that right.carljohnson3456

Christianity has been proven to be false.

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#28 Pikdum
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[QUOTE="666BumbleBee666"][QUOTE="BygByron3"]

Atheists reject the existence of deities.

Atheism is not a religion.

Being an atheist is not synonymous with being irreligious.

BygByron3

I see, so in theory you can be an Atheist and a Buddhist?

Yes, and Buddhism is one of the most compatible religions with atheism since the Buddha did not claim to be in any way divine, nor does Buddhism involve the idea of a personal god.

True, I'd probably be a Buddist if I had to choose a religion.

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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]I respect Atheism, but I believe there HAS to be a higher power of some kind. I believe in God, and mostly identify myself with the Christian religion. I used to be an Atheist. There may be no proof a higher power exists, but there's no proof that it doesnt. Sometimes I think even if every religion out there is actually wrong, doesnt mean that a higher power doesnt exists anyway. I hope I worded that right.BluRayHiDef

Christianity has been proven to be false.

Did Islam also been proven false?
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]I respect Atheism, but I believe there HAS to be a higher power of some kind. I believe in God, and mostly identify myself with the Christian religion. I used to be an Atheist. There may be no proof a higher power exists, but there's no proof that it doesnt. Sometimes I think even if every religion out there is actually wrong, doesnt mean that a higher power doesnt exists anyway. I hope I worded that right.BluRayHiDef

Christianity has been proven to be false].

LOL.....man what a ridiculous post.

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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]I respect Atheism, but I believe there HAS to be a higher power of some kind. I believe in God, and mostly identify myself with the Christian religion. I used to be an Atheist. There may be no proof a higher power exists, but there's no proof that it doesnt. Sometimes I think even if every religion out there is actually wrong, doesnt mean that a higher power doesnt exists anyway. I hope I worded that right.FMAB_GTO

Christianity has been proven to be false.

Did Islam also been proven false?

I'm pretty sure there are similar video series for Islam. Just search for them.

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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]I respect Atheism, but I believe there HAS to be a higher power of some kind. I believe in God, and mostly identify myself with the Christian religion. I used to be an Atheist. There may be no proof a higher power exists, but there's no proof that it doesnt. Sometimes I think even if every religion out there is actually wrong, doesnt mean that a higher power doesnt exists anyway. I hope I worded that right.BluRayHiDef

Christianity has been proven to be false.

I wont even bother. I doubt the age old debate about religion has been settled via a YouTube video. I'm not close minded, but I've read every debate, heard everything, yada, yada. I dont believe everything in the bible. I dont believe a guy lived inside of a whale. I'm not a devoted Christian. I identify with the religion.
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]I respect Atheism, but I believe there HAS to be a higher power of some kind. I believe in God, and mostly identify myself with the Christian religion. I used to be an Atheist. There may be no proof a higher power exists, but there's no proof that it doesnt. Sometimes I think even if every religion out there is actually wrong, doesnt mean that a higher power doesnt exists anyway. I hope I worded that right.LJS9502_basic

Christianity has been proven to be false].

LOL.....man what a ridiculous post.

While I don't think the Bible has been "proven" to be false, it still contradicts itself too many times for me to take it seriously.

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I'm pretty sure there are similar video series for Islam. Just search for them.BluRayHiDef
Probably just as ridiculous.....right?
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]I respect Atheism, but I believe there HAS to be a higher power of some kind. I believe in God, and mostly identify myself with the Christian religion. I used to be an Atheist. There may be no proof a higher power exists, but there's no proof that it doesnt. Sometimes I think even if every religion out there is actually wrong, doesnt mean that a higher power doesnt exists anyway. I hope I worded that right.carljohnson3456

Christianity has been proven to be false.

I wont even bother. I doubt the age old debate about religion has been settled via a YouTube video. I'm not close minded, but I've read every debate, heard everything, yada, yada. I dont believe everything in the bible. I dont believe a guy lived inside of a whale. I'm not a devoted Christian. I identify with the religion.

My dude, at least watch the first video. He raises some very good points and uses the Bible as the basis for his arguments. He points out misquoted and misattributed quotes from the Old Testament which are used in the New Testament as supposed proof that Jesus fullfilled messianic prophecies. He also points out quotes which were simply made up. I'm telling you, the guy has some very irrefutable points. Just be open minded.

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#36 Rick_Sure
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Atheism has not set of rules. No is the answer.

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#37 Philokalia
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Atheism has not set of rules. No is the answer.

Rick_Sure

Theres only one rule.

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#38 Pikdum
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Atheism has not set of rules. No is the answer.

Rick_Sure

You would only believe in a religion so you can be told what is right or wrong?

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[QUOTE="Rick_Sure"]

Atheism has not set of rules. No is the answer.

Philokalia

Theres only one rule.

Actually, there are three rules.

  • Never fight on Holy Ground.
  • Once a battle has begun, another Immortal may not interfere, i.e. each battle must be single combat
  • In the end, there can be only one.
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Christianity has been proven to be false.

BluRayHiDef

I wont even bother. I doubt the age old debate about religion has been settled via a YouTube video. I'm not close minded, but I've read every debate, heard everything, yada, yada. I dont believe everything in the bible. I dont believe a guy lived inside of a whale. I'm not a devoted Christian. I identify with the religion.

My dude, at least watch the first video. He raises some very good points and uses the Bible as the basis for his arguments. He points out misquoted and misattributed quotes from the Old Testament which are used in the New Testament as supposed proof that Jesus fullfilled messianic prophecies. He also points out quotes which were simply made up. I'm telling you, the guy has some very irrefutable points. Just be open minded.

I am man. I dont believe everything in the bible. I know it contradicts its self over and over. It was written by man like me and you. At the end of the day I aint trying to change anybody's mind about religion. I believe there is a higher power, whether it's the Christian God, Jewish God, or Islamic God... or maybe a whole other entity all together.
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] I wont even bother. I doubt the age old debate about religion has been settled via a YouTube video. I'm not close minded, but I've read every debate, heard everything, yada, yada. I dont believe everything in the bible. I dont believe a guy lived inside of a whale. I'm not a devoted Christian. I identify with the religion. carljohnson3456

My dude, at least watch the first video. He raises some very good points and uses the Bible as the basis for his arguments. He points out misquoted and misattributed quotes from the Old Testament which are used in the New Testament as supposed proof that Jesus fullfilled messianic prophecies. He also points out quotes which were simply made up. I'm telling you, the guy has some very irrefutable points. Just be open minded.

I am man. I dont believe everything in the bible. I know it contradicts its self over and over. It was written by man like me and you. At the end of the day I aint trying to change anybody's mind about religion. I believe there is a higher power, whether it's the Christian God, Jewish God, or Islamic God... or maybe a whole other entity all together.

You're contradicting yourself. You say that you believe (loosely) in Christianity. You can't do that. Either you believe or you don't; there's no middle ground. Also, how can you profess any degree of belief in a book that you know to be written/ made up by mere men? That's ludicrous.

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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

My dude, at least watch the first video. He raises some very good points and uses the Bible as the basis for his arguments. He points out misquoted and misattributed quotes from the Old Testament which are used in the New Testament as supposed proof that Jesus fullfilled messianic prophecies. He also points out quotes which were simply made up. I'm telling you, the guy has some very irrefutable points. Just be open minded.

BluRayHiDef

I am man. I dont believe everything in the bible. I know it contradicts its self over and over. It was written by man like me and you. At the end of the day I aint trying to change anybody's mind about religion. I believe there is a higher power, whether it's the Christian God, Jewish God, or Islamic God... or maybe a whole other entity all together.

You're contradicting yourself. You say that you believe (loosely) in Christianity. You can't do that. Either you believe or you don't; there's no middle ground. Also, how can you profess any degree of belief in a book that you know to be written/ made up by mere men? That's ludicrous.

What's ludicrous is you assuming people don't know men wrote the Bible....
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...In the end, there can be only one.BluRayHiDef
Nice Highlander reference. TC, I do not know what to believe, atheism seems right but if God exists I am pretty sure he would be pissed I would not follow him. Ugh and I know it is wrong to be feared into belief.
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Atheism has not set of rules. No is the answer.

Philokalia

Theres only one rule.

Which is why I said set. A belief can not be based around one rule. It is not set down by something or someone that is needed, It might be a common thing with Atheism but it is not demanded or asked for.
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]...In the end, there can be only one.unlovely
Nice Highlander reference. TC, I do not know what to believe, atheism seems right but if God exists I am pretty sure he would be pissed I would not follow him. Ugh and I know it is wrong to be feared into belief.

As the more you realize religion is old world garbage, the easier it gets. I was the same way.

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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

My dude, at least watch the first video. He raises some very good points and uses the Bible as the basis for his arguments. He points out misquoted and misattributed quotes from the Old Testament which are used in the New Testament as supposed proof that Jesus fullfilled messianic prophecies. He also points out quotes which were simply made up. I'm telling you, the guy has some very irrefutable points. Just be open minded.

BluRayHiDef

I am man. I dont believe everything in the bible. I know it contradicts its self over and over. It was written by man like me and you. At the end of the day I aint trying to change anybody's mind about religion. I believe there is a higher power, whether it's the Christian God, Jewish God, or Islamic God... or maybe a whole other entity all together.

You're contradicting yourself. You say that you believe (loosely) in Christianity. You can't do that. Either you believe or you don't; there's no middle ground. Also, how can you profess any degree of belief in a book that you know to be written/ made up by mere men? That's ludicrous.

See man, this is what kills me about the religious debate with atheists and Christians, no offence. There is a middle ground dude. Ya know what that middle ground is? Saying "I dont know". The middle ground is saying "I'm only human, I cant possibly pretend like I know there is a higher power or not". That's exactly why I have my own beliefs and force them upon no one. :)
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I'm not saying it's Reapers... But Reapers.
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] I am man. I dont believe everything in the bible. I know it contradicts its self over and over. It was written by man like me and you. At the end of the day I aint trying to change anybody's mind about religion. I believe there is a higher power, whether it's the Christian God, Jewish God, or Islamic God... or maybe a whole other entity all together. carljohnson3456

You're contradicting yourself. You say that you believe (loosely) in Christianity. You can't do that. Either you believe or you don't; there's no middle ground. Also, how can you profess any degree of belief in a book that you know to be written/ made up by mere men? That's ludicrous.

See man, this is what kills me about the religious debate with atheists and Christians, no offence. There is a middle ground dude. Ya know what that middle ground is? Saying "I dont know". The middle ground is saying "I'm only human, I cant possibly pretend like I know there is a higher power or not". That's exactly why I have my own beliefs and force them upon no one. :)

Agreed. Not everyone sees things in black and white. Imo thinking in absolutes is a bad mindset.

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#49 Philokalia
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[QUOTE="Rick_Sure"]

Atheism has not set of rules. No is the answer.

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Theres only one rule.

Actually, there are three rules.

  • Never fight on Holy Ground.
  • Once a battle has begun, another Immortal may not interfere, i.e. each battle must be single combat
  • In the end, there can be only one.

:lol:

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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] I am man. I dont believe everything in the bible. I know it contradicts its self over and over. It was written by man like me and you. At the end of the day I aint trying to change anybody's mind about religion. I believe there is a higher power, whether it's the Christian God, Jewish God, or Islamic God... or maybe a whole other entity all together. carljohnson3456

You're contradicting yourself. You say that you believe (loosely) in Christianity. You can't do that. Either you believe or you don't; there's no middle ground. Also, how can you profess any degree of belief in a book that you know to be written/ made up by mere men? That's ludicrous.

See man, this is what kills me about the religious debate with atheists and Christians, no offence. There is a middle ground dude. Ya know what that middle ground is? Saying "I dont know". The middle ground is saying "I'm only human, I cant possibly pretend like I know there is a higher power or not". That's exactly why I have my own beliefs and force them upon no one. :)

You don't understand. From the Bible's perspective - the Bible being the foundation of Christianity - there is no middle ground. The Bible does not say that you can choose which parts of it to believe and which not to. It simply tells you what to do and recalls events that it expects you to believe. For example, as far as the Bible is concerned, Jesus was indeed dead for three days and then came back to life. You can't choose to believe this event if you're a Christian; you MUST believe in it. That's what I'm saying.

Also, as I said, since you know that the Bible is written/ made-up by men, why believe in ANY part of it? You know it's a fairy tale. Your "reasoning" makes no sense.