Is God avoiding us?

Everything in life is pre-determined.

It may seem a bold statement but it is simple to prove. First you must accept that if something can be perfectly predicted then it is guaranteed to happen. If you know absolutely every possible factor of a certain event, lets say for example the toss of a coin. If you know everything about the situation the coin is being tossed in down to what the person next to the coin tosser had for breakfast. You should be able to put it all together and make a perfectly accurate prediction as to whether the coin will be heads or tails. Once you know exactly how the coin will land its fate has been determined and it cannot possibly land any other way. If you then think of life as one giant coin toss with even more factors and possible outcomes the same logic still applies. Even humans free will and thoughts are determined by their environment and genetics. By knowing and being able to perfectly piece together all the information in the universe any event can be predicted. Of course to

a) be able to gather all the required information in the universe, and

b) piece the information together perfectly to see the end result,

you would need to be infinitely intelligent and dare I say omnipotent. Hmm who do we know who fits these requirement. Oh its GOD.

If god is perfectly intelligent he can perfectly predict what people will do from the moment he creates them. Well here there lies a little contradiction. If life is designed as a test it is pointless because

a) God already knows what you will do and if you will go to heaven or not

b) God is perfect so he shouldn't need to mold people into perfect beings by putting them through trails in their lives because he should be able to make them perfect to begin with.

This logic makes our entire existence on earth meaningless. Either that or your omnipotent God is nothing more than a child with a sandbox that makes us like imperfect sandcastles merely because he wants to see the castles he constructed poorly fall in the wind while he has the sick satisfaction of toying further with the ones that survive.

If God does exist he may be omnipotent but he is far from perfect.

lobo234

???

you can't know all the factors of everything, it's impossible. for instance, where was that coin made? you can't be sure it's 100% perfect, because nothing is. one side might be heavier than the other by .000000000000000000001 percent, completely changing the odds. guys like you just distort reality to "prove" that god exists.

Those of you who believe in God, is he avoiding us and do whatever we want to do?mohan88

stop with your frikin religion threads

if you're gona put up a thread at least have more than a frikin sentence

Islam : only God can judge you, and he will judge you (based on your deeds in life otherwise he's not God)

Christianity: It's Jesus, or it's Hell, you choose (even if you were the best person but didn't believe in Jesus, you go to Hell, how nice)

If God sends Pagans and Atheists to hell, then he's not God. Nothing to fear here...

Because Romans, Greeks, etc never heard of Jesus Christ, and Jews weren't that special when they were ruled by Rome. These people worshipped Jupiter/gave animal sacrifices, but they never knew the truth, so you can't blame em.

Religion evolved. Where was God to guide the ancient peoples? What happened to all of those Pagans that worshipped several Gods?

Those are some tough questions. Christians tell me that they were all sent to Hell until Jesus came many years later and saved them from Hell, rescued them like Superman.

lol

I understand the different theologies, such as Islam POV, Christian, Jew, many others. But these religions came way after...way way after. Islam says that every nation was sent a Messenger. But then why where there Pagans and no one heard of those other Messengers?

There's many questions...many...and we are lucky to live in a society that doesn't involve killing people/animals as sacrifices to the Gods. But if we did live in that society, would it be justifiable for God to punish us? That's like punishing a Blind Man for being Blind.

Those of you who believe in God, is he avoiding us and do whatever we want to do?mohan88

I would avoid you too for questions like these.