Is It Just A Coincidence?

That's not for you to decide. I doubt your god would appreciate this comment.MrPraline

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Are you implying in one that living people are thrown into the lake of fire? That is not a Christian teaching. No one sees the Kingdom until death. Crushmaster

No He doesn't. Judge not lest ye be judged. His words....;) LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="MrPraline"] That's not for you to decide. I doubt your god would appreciate this comment.Crushmaster

How can God have decided whether or not a person is bound for Hell if they have not died yet?

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Now what would Jesus think of that comment? LJS9502_basic

You don't actually know that. Mercy is up to God and God alone. LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="MrPraline"] That's not for you to decide. I doubt your god would appreciate this comment.Crushmaster

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[QUOTE="MrPraline"] That's not for you to decide. I doubt your god would appreciate this comment.chessmaster1989

How can God have decided whether or not a person is bound for Hell if they have not died yet?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] No He doesn't. Judge not lest ye be judged. His words....;) Crushmaster

How can God have decided whether or not a person is bound for Hell if they have not died yet? chessmaster1989

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[QUOTE="MrPraline"]
Sorry, not ad hominem.
[QUOTE="MrPraline"] I do not believe in a "soul" that lives on after death, therefore I do not believe in an "eternal destiny". Dr_Manfattan

you seem to be comparing trucks, which we have a fair amount of evidence for (you know, what with the fact that we can see, hear, smell, touch and even taste if you feel like it) and comparing them with god, something that has no evidence to prove its existence, just blind belief...ive got to say that this seems to be some pretty bad logic.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You don't actually know that. Mercy is up to God and God alone. Crushmaster

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] How can God have decided whether or not a person is bound for Hell if they have not died yet? Crushmaster

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] How can God have decided whether or not a person is bound for Hell if they have not died yet? Crushmaster

Yet I have not died yet, and my actions between now and my death are not determined. So, saying I'm going to hell would not be a well-founded statement...

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] How can God have decided whether or not a person is bound for Hell if they have not died yet? Crushmaster

so if a massmurder repents his crimes he can go to heaven:|

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"]No, considering that it isn't as you describe it.Crushmaster

Well, I tried to explain it. If you want to play semantics and reject what I said, that is up to you. I guess if one calls a swan a duck then that makes it a duck in your mind. Believe whatever you choose. God gives us a free will to do just that and he will be faithful in giving us the eternal destiny we choose for ourselves.

blackregiment

Do not 99.9% of religions have a god or deity? Do they not worship that god or deity? Is that not what you are doing?

You are part of a religion, whether you like it or not. Even Crushmaster calls it a religion.

For some reason, I couldn't help but think of the Amon Amarth song Where Is Your God? when I read that. :lol:chessmaster1989

You are misrepresenting the scriptures.....LJS9502_basic

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] How can God have decided whether or not a person is bound for Hell if they have not died yet? LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] You are misrepresenting the scriptures.....Crushmaster

Yes, irony triumphs once again! :D

But you're a Catholic, so prepare for the monumentally innacurate and offensive quote...

Teenaged

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You don't actually know that. Mercy is up to God and God alone. Crushmaster

Is not god the only judge?

Your lack of proof.CptJSparrow

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You just told me I'll burn in hell when I clearly have accepted Jesus. Double standard much? Crushmaster

^Was waiting for that.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

But you're a Catholic, so prepare for the monumentally innacurate and offensive quote...

LJS9502_basic

Something like an allergy to stupidity...

It doesn't matter whether or not you believe in them. If I step out into a freeway with a bunch of trucks coming toward me, and I say, "I don't believe in trucks!", that won't change reality.

The fact of the matter is that you do have an eternal soul, and that you will have an eternal destiny - either eternal joy and bliss or eternal torment and pain.

Crushmaster

Déjà vu, anyone?

Once again, you make an awful metaphor while proving something is fact because...well, you said so. Please, spare us the Bible quotes and websites and show us a soul, or two (preferably experiencing eternal joy or torment).

Because until you do, you won't have a leg to stand on. You may have one person taking you seriously (the other Jesus fan), but as for the rest of us, you're another single-serving amusement that will be forgotten by this time Monday.

The only reason I read any of what you say is the same reason I watch Brother Micah preach at my school, I find enjoyment in the embarrassing opinions of over-zealous preacher men.

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"] Your lack of proof.Crushmaster

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[QUOTE="MrPraline"] That's not for you to decide. I doubt your god would appreciate this comment.chessmaster1989

How can God have decided whether or not a person is bound for Hell if they have not died yet?

God is omniscient. He knows all, the beginning and the end, He knows who will accept His plan of salvation in Christ and who will reject it, thus He knows the eternal destiny of each and every one of us.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You just told me I'll burn in hell when I clearly have accepted Jesus. Double standard much? Crushmaster

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You just told me I'll burn in hell when I clearly have accepted Jesus. Double standard much? Crushmaster

Generally one is lying when one does not provide proof for their claim.CptJSparrow

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You just told me I'll burn in hell when I clearly have accepted Jesus. Double standard much? Crushmaster

[ What makes you say it's "obvious"?

MrPraline

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[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
I know it's not. That's why He's already decided it.

blackregiment

How can God have decided whether or not a person is bound for Hell if they have not died yet?

God is omniscient. He knows all, the beginning and the end, He knows who will accept His plan of salvation in Christ and who will reject it, thus He knows the eternal destiny of each and every one of us.

Wouldn't that imply predetermination? ;)

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

How can God have decided whether or not a person is bound for Hell if they have not died yet?

chessmaster1989

God is omniscient. He knows all, the beginning and the end, He knows who will accept His plan of salvation in Christ and who will reject it, thus He knows the eternal destiny of each and every one of us.

Wouldn't that imply predetermination? ;)

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

How can God have decided whether or not a person is bound for Hell if they have not died yet?

chessmaster1989

God is omniscient. He knows all, the beginning and the end, He knows who will accept His plan of salvation in Christ and who will reject it, thus He knows the eternal destiny of each and every one of us.

Wouldn't that imply predetermination? ;)

Oh no you di-int!

[QUOTE="MrPraline"]

[ What makes you say it's "obvious"?

LJS9502_basic

It is also obvious to me that YOU are not a Christian. Teenaged

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Not at all obvious. According to the definition and the NT definition....I am most certainly a Christian. Crushmaster

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You just told me I'll burn in hell when I clearly have accepted Jesus. Double standard much? Crushmaster

so i wont go to heaven even though im an allround nice guy who helps people who need it and has made good morel choices i wont go to heave because i dont believe in god

[QUOTE="Teenaged"] It is also obvious to me that YOU are not a Christian. Crushmaster

The Bible thinks otherwise. ;)

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Not at all obvious. According to the definition and the NT definition....I am most certainly a Christian. Crushmaster

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"] Your lack of proof.CptJSparrow

That does not logically or necessarily follow. For example, if I claim my car is red, and it actually is, the fact that I choose not to show it to you or give you a photo of it to "proove it" does not mean that I am lying.

Yeah, I know. Still, I'd like him to explain why Catholics are not Christians.MrPraline

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Not at all obvious. According to the definition and the NT definition....I am most certainly a Christian. MrPraline

Et cetera's reinforce ones arguments!

Oh wait something's wrong with what I said... there ARE NO arguments.... :/

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Not at all obvious. According to the definition and the NT definition....I am most certainly a Christian. Crushmaster

Seriously kid, does using the expression "et cetera" make you feel just a little bit more intellectual ? Because it's getting repetitive to the point where it's simply annoying.

:lol: Well it would be nice if you understood what we believed before...you know judging us. Hint: Not even close. LJS9502_basic