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#1 EntropyWins
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I just look around the world and it seems like the population keeps growing, natural resourses are being depleted, and we havea majority of politicians that think that the short term benefits of unsustainable economic growth are more important than the long term ramifications of protecting our planet. They say we should wait until big business thinks it is financially worth it to try and create a sustainable system to preserve our species and planet.

Are we stuck in a "progress trap" where our efficient and mass consumption will be our own undoing?

 

I'd like to be an optimist, but it seems more and more that this is a problem intertwined into the human condition that will ultimately be our end.  Are there any thoughts on soutions to this problem? Is there any hope? Should there be some type of population control? Will we ever be able to live within the limits that a sustainable world demands?

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#2 Dogswithguns
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It's pretty scary, but no one can do a thing about it.. to the point that lots of people gonna be homeless.
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#3 lostrib
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earth doesn't need protecting

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#4 Barbariser
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There's no reason why an interventionist capitalist system is going to be any worse at handling overpopulation issues as compared to any other kind of economy.

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#5 superclocked
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Our lifestyle is definitely unsustainable in the long term. We waste entirely too many resources. Hell, many of our best medicines are made from crude oil derivatives, and we're burning the stuff up like there's no tomorrow...
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#6 sogni_belli
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Nature will find a way of self-correcting.  We're overdue for a pandemic or some other global catastrophe. 

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#7 Master_Live
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Nature will find a way of self-correcting.  

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This.
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#8 MakeMeaSammitch
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Yes, rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.

eventually, the poor/middle class will have no say in government/personal lives.

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#9 Master_Live
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Yes, rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.

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#10 GazaAli
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Maybe we should stop wasting 1/3 of the world's food, spending gazillions of dollars on war and imperialist shit and allowing a handful of schmucks of owning heaps of money on the expense of the people. That would be a great start. Enough with the "depleting resources" and "overpopulation" BS...

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#11 GazaAli
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[QUOTE="sogni_belli"]

Nature will find a way of self-correcting.  

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This.

What if that way turned out to be the extinction of the human race? Or gruesome wars with millions dead just to preserve a shitty, unfair and stagnant order?
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#12 Master_Live
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[QUOTE="Master_Live"][QUOTE="sogni_belli"]

Nature will find a way of self-correcting.  

GazaAli

This.

What if that way turned out to be the extinction of the human race? Or gruesome wars with millions dead just to preserve a shitty, unfair and stagnant order?

 

Then that happens. Nobody said it would be pretty.

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#13 MakeMeaSammitch
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[QUOTE="Master_Live"][QUOTE="sogni_belli"]

Nature will find a way of self-correcting.  

GazaAli

This.

What if that way turned out to be the extinction of the human race? Or gruesome wars with millions dead just to preserve a shitty, unfair and stagnant order?

This is probably what will happen.

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Maybe we should stop wasting 1/3 of the world's food, spend gazillions of dollars on war and imperialist shit and prevent a handful of schmucks of owning heaps of money on the expense of the people. That would be a great start. Enough with the "depleting resources" and "overpopulation" BS... GazaAli

wait, why are we preventing people from making money?

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#15 jun_aka_pekto
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There's no reason why an interventionist capitalist system is going to be any worse at handling overpopulation issues as compared to any other kind of economy.

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Which countries are proilific at popping out them kids? Maybe they need to slow down.

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#16 GazaAli
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"]Maybe we should stop wasting 1/3 of the world's food, spend gazillions of dollars on war and imperialist shit and prevent a handful of schmucks of owning heaps of money on the expense of the people. That would be a great start. Enough with the "depleting resources" and "overpopulation" BS... lostrib

wait, why are we preventing people from making money?

ops I mean allowing schmucks, my bad :P
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#17 Barbariser
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[QUOTE="Barbariser"]

There's no reason why an interventionist capitalist system is going to be any worse at handling overpopulation issues as compared to any other kind of economy.

jun_aka_pekto

Which countries are proilific at popping out them kids? Maybe they need to slow down.

The only effective way and politically acceptable way to do that is to increase their standard of living, which will cause a similar resource consumption problem to overpopulation anyway.
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#18 HoolaHoopMan
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Thinking in the long term is for losers. Hell, I'm guessing a lot of those same people believe in the end times and don't give a shit.
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#19 Ace6301
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We're very short term oriented thinkers so it wouldn't surprise me at all.
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#20 deactivated-5acfa3a8bc51d
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When someone dies their money should be worthless. Lets see how the economy reacts to that
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[QUOTE="Barbariser"]

There's no reason why an interventionist capitalist system is going to be any worse at handling overpopulation issues as compared to any other kind of economy.

jun_aka_pekto

Which countries are proilific at popping out them kids? Maybe they need to slow down.

African and Middle Eastern ones. Developed countries tend to have very very low birthrates.

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Maybe we should stop wasting 1/3 of the world's food, spending gazillions of dollars on war and imperialist shit and allowing a handful of schmucks of owning heaps of money on the expense of the people. That would be a great start. Enough with the "depleting resources" and "overpopulation" BS...

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#23 EntropyWins
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Maybe we should stop wasting 1/3 of the world's food, spending gazillions of dollars on war and imperialist shit and allowing a handful of schmucks of owning heaps of money on the expense of the people. That would be a great start. Enough with the "depleting resources" and "overpopulation" BS...

GazaAli

I don't disagree with any of your initial statements. But I don't understand why you think limited resources and overpopulation issues are BS?

What do you think wars are fought over? Maybe limited resources? Food is one of many resources that are currently being wasted at an alarming rate by a percentage of our planet. A troubling trend for me though is that instead of us learning to consume less, we are teaching the rest of the world how awesome it is to consume and waste more.

The wealth disparity only exacerbates the issue.Honestly, I don't think most people mind that there are super wealthy people as long as we still are living decent lives, but if resources become more scarce and prices go up the rest of us will suffer while the wealthy still enjoy their gluttonous lifestyles then conflict is inevitable also.

So I guess I would like you to explain what you mean when you refer to those issues as BS.

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#24 EntropyWins
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There's no reason why an interventionist capitalist system is going to be any worse at handling overpopulation issues as compared to any other kind of economy.

Barbariser
It would seem to me that our current system promotes uninhibited consumption of resources at an increasingly dangerous pace. Now I'm not advocating for any particular economic system to replace the current one, but it would seem that at the very least something should be tweaked to account for the realities of the world we live in that are not accounted for by economic theory, except as passing references to externalities.
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#25 EntropyWins
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="Master_Live"] This. Master_Live

What if that way turned out to be the extinction of the human race? Or gruesome wars with millions dead just to preserve a shitty, unfair and stagnant order?

 

Then that happens. Nobody said it would be pretty.

So your solution is to do nothing in the name of letting nature take its course and kill off all humans? I don't see why we shouldn't even attempt to preserve our existence if at all possible.
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#26 deeliman
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Yes, the rate at which we exhaust finite resources is alarming, but of course most people don't give a shit. At least, not enough to actually do something about it.

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#27 deeliman
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[QUOTE="Master_Live"]

[QUOTE="GazaAli"] What if that way turned out to be the extinction of the human race? Or gruesome wars with millions dead just to preserve a shitty, unfair and stagnant order?EntropyWins

 

Then that happens. Nobody said it would be pretty.

So your solution is to do nothing in the name of letting nature take its course and kill off all humans? I don't see why we shouldn't even attempt to preserve our existence if at all possible.

He didn't present it as a solution, he said that's what's going to happen if we don't change our lifestyles.
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Our global economy runs on fiat currencies. The population has nothing to do with creating more from the bank. Soon the currency is going to have as much buying power as Monopoly money does now. Then population will be an issue. So many mouths to feed and a useless currency.

7 billion people. Put them in your area of square miles. People talking of over population, man made climate change, and natural resources running out really haven't thought about how much earth is beneath them right now. Enough for a gravity pull, an atmosphere, and millions of years of sustained life. But the end is near because there are just too many people.

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[QUOTE="GazaAli"]

Maybe we should stop wasting 1/3 of the world's food, spending gazillions of dollars on war and imperialist shit and allowing a handful of schmucks of owning heaps of money on the expense of the people. That would be a great start. Enough with the "depleting resources" and "overpopulation" BS...

EntropyWins

I don't disagree with any of your initial statements. But I don't understand why you think limited resources and overpopulation issues are BS?

What do you think wars are fought over? Maybe limited resources? Food is one of many resources that are currently being wasted at an alarming rate by a percentage of our planet. A troubling trend for me though is that instead of us learning to consume less, we are teaching the rest of the world how awesome it is to consume and waste more.

The wealth disparity only exacerbates the issue.Honestly, I don't think most people mind that there are super wealthy people as long as we still are living decent lives, but if resources become more scarce and prices go up the rest of us will suffer while the wealthy still enjoy their gluttonous lifestyles then conflict is inevitable also.

So I guess I would like you to explain what you mean when you refer to those issues as BS.

I think of them as BS because in my opinion they're not real in the sense that they do have realistic, applicable and somehow straightforward solutions. There is an argument that the world is overpopulated and earth can no longer sustain the needs of its human population. This argument is BS because earth's resources are more than enough to sustain a reasonably comfortable and even luxurious life for its entire human population and possibly much more. If we are able to fund wars of ridiculously huge budgets and military spendings in the trillions of dollars then I can definitely say we're not facing a resources problem.


The way you're looking at the whole situation suggests that you think wars are being fought over resources because they're being depleted. I see the whole thing from an opposite angle. Resources are in short because of imperialist wars that do not serve the interest of the majority of earth's population. They only serve the interests of megalomaniac, egotistical minority and the interests of the super rich. In short, resources were more than enough then they became in shortage because of wars. Going by this arrangement, it does not make sense to say that we're fighting wars over resources per say.

I know some will yell at me "COMMUNIST" but I still don't understand why some people are allowed to own billions of dollars. What would they possibly do with all that money? They will never spend it, EVER, no matter how extravagant and gluttonous of lives they lead. On the other hand we have millions of people in serious need for a fraction of that money. A fraction of that wealth can change the lives of thousands if not millions of people in the blink of an eye. Yet they will most likely spend their lifetimes without getting a chance to a decent life. For fvck sake that is just screwed up. Some will say they earned it so they are entitled to the fruits of their labor. You must be completely out of touch with reality to actually believe that. They did not earn it, no one will ever be able to earn this much money. No one is capable of that its just not possible. It goes against what we know about the capacipty of the individual and the extent of his ability. The only possible explanation to the enormous wealth of the super rich is that they stole it one way or another. Maybe they stole it from the people, or from the state, or from other states it varies but the important part is that they did not earn it.

Imagine if this stolen wealth were to be released back to its rightful owners or those who deserve it, can you even begin to imagine how abundant resources will become?

 

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[QUOTE="EntropyWins"]

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]

Maybe we should stop wasting 1/3 of the world's food, spending gazillions of dollars on war and imperialist shit and allowing a handful of schmucks of owning heaps of money on the expense of the people. That would be a great start. Enough with the "depleting resources" and "overpopulation" BS...

GazaAli

I don't disagree with any of your initial statements. But I don't understand why you think limited resources and overpopulation issues are BS?

What do you think wars are fought over? Maybe limited resources? Food is one of many resources that are currently being wasted at an alarming rate by a percentage of our planet. A troubling trend for me though is that instead of us learning to consume less, we are teaching the rest of the world how awesome it is to consume and waste more.

The wealth disparity only exacerbates the issue.Honestly, I don't think most people mind that there are super wealthy people as long as we still are living decent lives, but if resources become more scarce and prices go up the rest of us will suffer while the wealthy still enjoy their gluttonous lifestyles then conflict is inevitable also.

So I guess I would like you to explain what you mean when you refer to those issues as BS.

I think of them as BS because in my opinion they're not real in the sense that they do have realistic, applicable and somehow straightforward solutions. There is an argument that the world is overpopulated and earth can no longer sustain the needs of its human population. This argument is BS because earth's resources are more than enough to sustain a reasonably comfortable and even luxurious life for its entire human population and possibly much more. If we are able to fund wars of ridiculously huge budgets and military spendings in the trillions of dollars then I can definitely say we're not facing a resources problem.


The way you're looking at the whole situation suggests that you think wars are being fought over resources because they're being depleted. I see the whole thing from an opposite angle. Resources are in short because of imperialist wars that do not serve the interest of the majority of earth's population. They only serve the interests of megalomaniac, egotistical minority and the interests of the super rich. In short, resources were more than enough then they became in shortage because of wars. Going by this arrangement, it does not make sense to say that we're fighting wars over resources per say.

I know some will yell at me "COMMUNIST" but I still don't understand why some people are allowed to own billions of dollars. What would they possibly do with all that money? They will never spend it, EVER, no matter how extravagant and gluttonous of lives they lead. On the other hand we have millions of people in serious need for a fraction of that money. A fraction of that wealth can change the lives of thousands if not millions of people in the blink of an eye. Yet they will most likely spend their lifetimes without getting a chance to a decent life. For fvck sake that is just screwed up. Some will say they earned it so they are entitled to the fruits of their labor. You must be completely out of touch with reality to actually believe that. They did not earn it, no one will ever be able to earn this much money. No one is capable of that its just not possible. It goes against what we know about the capacipty of the individual and the extent of his ability. The only possible explanation to the enormous wealth of the super rich is that they stole it one way or another. Maybe they stole it from the people, or from the state, or from other states it varies but the important part is that they did not earn it.

Imagine if this stolen wealth were to be released back to its rightful owners or those who deserve it, can you even begin to imagine how abundant resources will become?

 

What do you mean people can't earn billions? If you start up a company and it's very successful, you earn a lot of money. That's how the free market works.
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What I mean by that is if you start up a company and it became very successful, you will earn a lot of money yes. But you will never be able to lawfully and ethically earn billions of dollars, its just not possible. Though we can disagree on what should be lawful and/or ethical to an extent.
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What I mean by that is if you start up a company and it became very successful, you will earn a lot of money yes. But you will never be able to lawfully and ethically earn billions of dollars, its just not possible. Though we can disagree on what should be lawful and/or ethical to an extent.GazaAli
Of course you can lawfully earn all that money, it doesn't happen often but it can happen. And as for ethically, well, that's something subjective, some people will find it unethical, and some people won't.
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#33 GazaAli
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"]What I mean by that is if you start up a company and it became very successful, you will earn a lot of money yes. But you will never be able to lawfully and ethically earn billions of dollars, its just not possible. Though we can disagree on what should be lawful and/or ethical to an extent.deeliman
Of course you can lawfully earn all that money, it doesn't happen often but it can happen. And as for ethically, well, that's something subjective, some people will find it unethical, and some people won't.

I don't believe an individual is able to earn this much money, as in the billions. We do not have the capacity and the ability to earn billions of dollars as the fruits of our own labor.
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Our global economy runs on fiat currencies. The population has nothing to do with creating more from the bank. Soon the currency is going to have as much buying power as Monopoly money does now. Then population will be an issue. So many mouths to feed and a useless currency.

7 billion people. Put them in your area of square miles. People talking of over population, man made climate change, and natural resources running out really haven't thought about how much earth is beneath them right now. Enough for a gravity pull, an atmosphere, and millions of years of sustained life. But the end is near because there are just too many people.

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Yes. I'm already stocking up in case the film The Purge becomes real life.

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Eh people have been preaching doom and gloom for hundreds of years and yet we always overcome those predictions. Technology will pretty much always find way.
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[QUOTE="Barbariser"]

There's no reason why an interventionist capitalist system is going to be any worse at handling overpopulation issues as compared to any other kind of economy.

EntropyWins

It would seem to me that our current system promotes uninhibited consumption of resources at an increasingly dangerous pace. Now I'm not advocating for any particular economic system to replace the current one, but it would seem that at the very least something should be tweaked to account for the realities of the world we live in that are not accounted for by economic theory, except as passing references to externalities. 



Market economies discourage the consumption of resources by forcing people to pay for their use. Naturally, modern middle classers can afford to be more profligate due to their sheer purchasing power, but a resource-constrained economy will experience inflation and therefore counter this.

giant postGazaAli

Militaries account for a puny % of global resource consumption and economic activity, so you can't really blame resource shortages on warfare. As for wealth inequality; most millionaires/billionaires who aren't sportsmen or entertainers get their net worth from inheritance, investment or innovation. While inheritors of wealth haven't "earned" it, if they don't know how to maintain or expand that pool they would lose it all to inflation and spending over the course of their lives. And if they were spending it extravagantly, they'd basically be distributing their money out to the rest of the population anyway.

Investors are pretty damn important to modern economies - you can't have long term economic growth without them and they effectively raise everyone's living standards by funding the establishment of industries and employing people to work in them. Innovators are pretty much the same thing - looking for more efficient ways to produce/market/distribute their goods raises living standards for everyone. You're not going to get a lot of these kinds of people without incentivizing them via the promise of massive financial compensation.

Large scale wealth transfers from the rich have other effects even if they're not big enough to turn people off from the effort of actually making that much money, btw. Increasing the purchasing power of the lower class in this manner sounds fantastic until you realize that you've just generated a lot more aggregate demand without increasing your ability to produce what they want. Now inflation is going to erode a lot of that increase in living standards and it's going to affect everyone, even those who didn't get a sudden injection of wealth from the rich.
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Maybe we should stop wasting 1/3 of the world's food, spending gazillions of dollars on war and imperialist shit and allowing a handful of schmucks of owning heaps of money on the expense of the people. That would be a great start. Enough with the "depleting resources" and "overpopulation" BS...

GazaAli
Ok, you start. State your BMI.
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"]

Maybe we should stop wasting 1/3 of the world's food, spending gazillions of dollars on war and imperialist shit and allowing a handful of schmucks of owning heaps of money on the expense of the people. That would be a great start. Enough with the "depleting resources" and "overpopulation" BS...

prokadiri
Ok, you start. State your BMI.

What does his BMI have to do with food being wasted or the amount of money spend on warfare?
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#40 prokadiri
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[QUOTE="prokadiri"][QUOTE="GazaAli"]

Maybe we should stop wasting 1/3 of the world's food, spending gazillions of dollars on war and imperialist shit and allowing a handful of schmucks of owning heaps of money on the expense of the people. That would be a great start. Enough with the "depleting resources" and "overpopulation" BS...

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Ok, you start. State your BMI.

What does his BMI have to do with food being wasted or the amount of money spend on warfare?

If he's overweight, he's wasting food.
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#41 deeliman
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[QUOTE="prokadiri"][QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="prokadiri"] Ok, you start. State your BMI.

What does his BMI have to do with food being wasted or the amount of money spend on warfare?

If he's overweight, he's wasting food.

No he's not...
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#42 prokadiri
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[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="prokadiri"][QUOTE="deeliman"] What does his BMI have to do with food being wasted or the amount of money spend on warfare?

If he's overweight, he's wasting food.

No he's not...

If he is overweight, he is wasting food. Period. Unless he's preparing for a really long and cold winter.
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Obviously.. We depend off a finite resources, especially when it comes to energy.. What do you think will happen when we run out of the said finite resource we depend off of?
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#44 prokadiri
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Obviously.. We depend off a finite resources, especially when it comes to energy.. What do you think will happen when we run out of the said finite resource we depend off of?sSubZerOo
We'll find other?
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Obviously.. We depend off a finite resources, especially when it comes to energy.. What do you think will happen when we run out of the said finite resource we depend off of?prokadiri
We'll find other?

Yep uh huh.. We have oil industries out there spending billions in ensuring any and all threats to their profit margins are stamped down on.. The only time things will change is when we are at that point when we run out, and by then it may already be too late..

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#46 deeliman
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[QUOTE="prokadiri"][QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="prokadiri"] If he's overweight, he's wasting food.

No he's not...

If he is overweight, he is wasting food. Period. Unless he's preparing for a really long and cold winter.

No, he's not wasting food unless he just throws it away. As long as the food is eaten, it's not being wasted. Is that really such a difficult concept to grasp?
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#47 prokadiri
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[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="prokadiri"][QUOTE="deeliman"] No he's not...

If he is overweight, he is wasting food. Period. Unless he's preparing for a really long and cold winter.

No, he's not wasting food unless he just throws it away. As long as the food is eaten, it's not being wasted. Is that really such a difficult concept to grasp?

Yes, because it's false.
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[QUOTE="prokadiri"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Obviously.. We depend off a finite resources, especially when it comes to energy.. What do you think will happen when we run out of the said finite resource we depend off of?sSubZerOo

We'll find other?

Yep uh huh.. We have oil industries out there spending billions in ensuring any and all threats to their profit margins are stamped down on.. The only time things will change is when we are at that point when we run out, and by then it may already be too late..

Its not like one day there's oil the next day its all gone. It will slowly raise in price until alternatives are cost efficient then those new cost efficient technologies will be adopted.
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#49 prokadiri
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[QUOTE="prokadiri"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Obviously.. We depend off a finite resources, especially when it comes to energy.. What do you think will happen when we run out of the said finite resource we depend off of?sSubZerOo

We'll find other?

Yep uh huh.. We have oil industries out there spending billions in ensuring any and all threats to their profit margins are stamped down on.. The only time things will change is when we are at that point when we run out, and by then it may already be too late..

If there are indeed other available resources, the people controlling them won't want to see us getting erased because they'll lose their market. Chill.
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#50 deeliman
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[QUOTE="prokadiri"][QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="prokadiri"] If he is overweight, he is wasting food. Period. Unless he's preparing for a really long and cold winter.

No, he's not wasting food unless he just throws it away. As long as the food is eaten, it's not being wasted. Is that really such a difficult concept to grasp?

Yes, because it's false.

waste, wast·ed, wast·ing, noun, adjective verb (used with object) 1. to consume, spend, or employ uselessly If he eats it, it is not consumed uselessly.