Is there a g@y gene?

[QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]It totally is a choice to anyone who has ever answered the question "Who would you go gay for?" It's Viggo Mortensen, by the way...SkylinePigeon

[QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]It totally is a choice to anyone who has ever answered the question "Who would you go gay for?" It's Viggo Mortensen, by the way...BlueBirdTS

:shock: That's a weird question to answer.

have you ever seen true romance ?

[QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] You did? I would assume that you were unbiased in this decision and looked at both homosexuality and heterosexuality. It is never a good idea to make a decision without trying out all the options.-Sun_Tzu-

Yeah, I have to try both being gay and straight to decide what I'm going to do...

Yup, I have to be Carmen Ghia for a while until I decide I don't want to be gay I don't get your point exactly. I believe its more psychological because each person has an attraction to either males or females, nobody is born gay.

That's not really an instance of changing one's sexual orientation; that's just a matter of finding out what you always were but weren't sure about.

GabuEx

That's another thing. What does it mean when a person isn't sure of their sexuality? If the "decision" is made already in the brain, shouldn't they know it?

[QUOTE="Raikoh_"]

I don't think there's a "gene". It's not a choice either. Is there a gene that makes people think the way they do or like what they like? No.Who wakes up and goes, "Hm... I could use some penis/vagina today..."? No one.

It's just the way you are.

BlueBirdTS

lol, wut? You just contradicted yourself.

Do you know what contradicted means? The question was, is it a choice or a gene. I gave my answers and I don't think it's either. That boils down to me thinking it was psychological. GG.

And to that other guy who's name I didn't care to remember but quoted me and bolded the end of my post and made a stupid comment. I was talking about someone suddenly deciding to be gay.

[QUOTE="BlueBirdTS"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] You did? I would assume that you were unbiased in this decision and looked at both homosexuality and heterosexuality. It is never a good idea to make a decision without trying out all the options.Wolf-Man2006

:lol: Nice one.

Man, ya'll have something against me. I hope I didn't run over your dog or something :P

I have nothing against you. I just thought it was a clever response.

Yup, I have to be Carmen Ghia for a while until I decide I don't want to be gay I don't get your point exactly. I believe its more psychological because each person has an attraction to either males or females, nobody is born gay.

Wolf-Man2006

How do you explain the fact that the brains of homosexual people resemble the brains of the opposite sex, then?

I'm pretty sure it's psychological.

[QUOTE="BlueBirdTS"]

[QUOTE="Raikoh_"]

I don't think there's a "gene". It's not a choice either. Is there a gene that makes people think the way they do or like what they like? No.Who wakes up and goes, "Hm... I could use some penis/vagina today..."? No one.

It's just the way you are.

Raikoh_

lol, wut? You just contradicted yourself.

Do you know what contradicted means? The question was, is it a choice or a gene. I gave my answers and I don't think it's either. That boils down to me thinking it was psychological. GG.

And to that other guy who's name I didn't care to remember but quoted me and bolded the end of my post and made a stupid comment. I was talking about someone suddenly deciding to be gay.

Okay, I see what you're saying. I just personally believe that your genes are "the way you are" and you said "I don't think it's a gene".

[QUOTE="BlueBirdTS"]

[QUOTE="Raikoh_"]

I don't think there's a "gene". It's not a choice either. Is there a gene that makes people think the way they do or like what they like? No.Who wakes up and goes, "Hm... I could use some penis/vagina today..."? No one.

It's just the way you are.

Raikoh_

lol, wut? You just contradicted yourself.

Do you know what contradicted means? The question was, is it a choice or a gene. I gave my answers and I don't think it's either. That boils down to me thinking it was psychological. GG.

And to that other guy who's name I didn't care to remember but quoted me and bolded the end of my post and made a stupid comment. I was talking about someone suddenly deciding to be gay.

my names joesh :( and i was only joking...

[QUOTE="BlueBirdTS"]

It totally is a choice to anyone who has ever answered the question "Who would you go gay for?" It's Viggo Mortensen, by the way...D3nnyCrane

:shock: That's a weird question to answer.

have you ever seen true romance ?

[QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]It totally is a choice to anyone who has ever answered the question "Who would you go gay for?" It's Viggo Mortensen, by the way...BlueBirdTS

:shock: That's a weird question to answer.

That's another thing. What does it mean when a person isn't sure of their sexuality? If the "decision" is made already in the brain, shouldn't they know it?

dog64

Not at all; people find things about themselves that they didn't know all the time. The subconscious is a very strange realm in that way.

[QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]

Yup, I have to be Carmen Ghia for a while until I decide I don't want to be gay I don't get your point exactly. I believe its more psychological because each person has an attraction to either males or females, nobody is born gay.

GabuEx

How do you explain the fact that the brains of homosexual people resemble the brains of the opposite sex, then?

I'm not talking about how similar gay or lesbian brains are. I'm saying that each person decides whether they are gay or straight simply because of their attraction and desires.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]

Yeah, I have to try both being gay and straight to decide what I'm going to do...

Wolf-Man2006

Yup, I have to be Carmen Ghia for a while until I decide I don't want to be gay I don't get your point exactly. I believe its more psychological because each person has an attraction to either males or females, nobody is born gay.

It totally is a choice to anyone who has ever answered the question "Who would you go gay for?" It's Viggo Mortensen, by the way...D3nnyCrane

:shock: That's a weird question to answer.

According to science at this time....no.

[QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Well, that's the only way to make a good decision. I might like cake, but I'll never know if I like cake more than pie if I never try both. Hell, I might hate cake after tasting the magnificence of pie.

-Sun_Tzu-

Yup, I have to be Carmen Ghia for a while until I decide I don't want to be gay I don't get your point exactly. I believe its more psychological because each person has an attraction to either males or females, nobody is born gay.

A choice is a discision you make, psychological or not.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]

Yup, I have to be Carmen Ghia for a while until I decide I don't want to be gay I don't get your point exactly. I believe its more psychological because each person has an attraction to either males or females, nobody is born gay.

Wolf-Man2006

How do you explain the fact that the brains of homosexual people resemble the brains of the opposite sex, then?

I'm not talking about how similar gay or lesbian brains are. I'm saying that each person decides whether they are gay or straight simply because of their attraction and desires.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

That's not really an instance of changing one's sexual orientation; that's just a matter of finding out what you always were but weren't sure about.

dog64

That's another thing. What does it mean when a person isn't sure of their sexuality? If the "decision" is made already in the brain, shouldn't they know it?

I'm not talking about how similar gay or lesbian brains are. I'm saying that each person decides whether they are gay or straight simply because of their attraction and desires.

Wolf-Man2006

Well, yes, but to say that it's a "choice" means that the person just decided one day to be one or the other and could have gone either way before that point. If it is indeed the case that homosexuals' brains resemble those of the opposite sex, this would make it rather likely that it's something engrained in the person's very physical structure, no?

Yes there is. You'll notice most homosexuals have high voices. OR at least higher voices than the average man. This is because their vocal cords didn't develop in the same way that a non homosexual mans vocal chords develop because their testosterone levels are inferior to the testosterone levels of a heterosexual man.

Probably not, since there's no gene that determines preference (as far as I know). I think it's hormonal.

[QUOTE="SkylinePigeon"][QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]It totally is a choice to anyone who has ever answered the question "Who would you go gay for?" It's Viggo Mortensen, by the way...D3nnyCrane

Yes there is. You'll notice most homosexuals have high voices. OR at least higher voices than the average man. This is because their vocal cords didn't develop in the same way that a non homosexual mans vocal chords develop because their testosterone levels are inferior to the testosterone levels of a heterosexual man.

BumFluff122

Yes there is. You'll notice most homosexuals have high voices. OR at least higher voices than the average man. This is because their vocal cords didn't develop in the same way that a non homosexual mans vocal chords develop because their testosterone levels are inferior to the testosterone levels of a heterosexual man.

BumFluff122

Testosterone is a hormone, not a gene.

Probably not, since there's no gene that determines preference (as far as I know). I think it's hormonal.

Theokhoth

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]

Yup, I have to be Carmen Ghia for a while until I decide I don't want to be gay I don't get your point exactly. I believe its more psychological because each person has an attraction to either males or females, nobody is born gay.

Wolf-Man2006

A choice is a discision you make, psychological or not.

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

Yes there is. You'll notice most homosexuals have high voices. OR at least higher voices than the average man. This is because their vocal cords didn't develop in the same way that a non homosexual mans vocal chords develop because their testosterone levels are inferior to the testosterone levels of a heterosexual man.

Theokhoth

Testosterone is a hormone, not a gene.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]

Yup, I have to be Carmen Ghia for a while until I decide I don't want to be gay I don't get your point exactly. I believe its more psychological because each person has an attraction to either males or females, nobody is born gay.

Wolf-Man2006

How do you explain the fact that the brains of homosexual people resemble the brains of the opposite sex, then?

I'm not talking about how similar gay or lesbian brains are. I'm saying that each person decides whether they are gay or straight simply because of their attraction and desires.

It's possible. Though, there has to be something to activate said in gene in some people but not in others. That would explain why I'm gay but my sister isn't and how both of my parents are heterosexual. That being said, even if there isn't a gene, it sure as hell wasn't a choice.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Probably not, since there's no gene that determines preference (as far as I know). I think it's hormonal.

LJS9502_basic

Hence why I said "probably not" to the question, "is there a gay gene?".

[QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"][QUOTE="SkylinePigeon"] Angelina Jolie Uh, ummm, sorry, what were we talking about again? :PSkylinePigeon

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

Yes there is. You'll notice most homosexuals have high voices. OR at least higher voices than the average man. This is because their vocal cords didn't develop in the same way that a non homosexual mans vocal chords develop because their testosterone levels are inferior to the testosterone levels of a heterosexual man.

BumFluff122

Testosterone is a hormone, not a gene.

I think it is.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Probably not, since there's no gene that determines preference (as far as I know). I think it's hormonal.

Theokhoth

Hence why I said "probably not" to the question, "is there a gay gene?".

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Probably not, since there's no gene that determines preference (as far as I know). I think it's hormonal.

LJS9502_basic

That depends on what you mean by "link". If you mean "link" as in sexuality being entirely determined by genetics, then yes; however, if by "link" you mean sexuality being correlated to genetics, then no. Studies have shown that around 50% of identical twins are both homosexual, around 20% of fraternal twins are both homosexual, and around 10% of adopted siblings are both homosexual. Though many tout this as strong evidence against a specific gay gene - which it is, if this gene is supposed to entirely determine sexuality - it nonetheless does indicate a genetic component, as random chance cannot account for such a dramatic increase in similar sexuality with similar genetics.

I doubt its genetic, but I think it has to do more with brain development. correct me if Im wrong

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Probably not, since there's no gene that determines preference (as far as I know). I think it's hormonal.

GabuEx

That depends on what you mean by "link". If you mean "link" as in sexuality being entirely determined by genetics, then yes; however, if by "link" you mean sexuality being correlated to genetics, then no. Studies have shown that around 50% of identical twins are both homosexual, around 20% of fraternal twins are both homosexual, and around 10% of adopted siblings are both homosexual. Though many tout this as strong evidence against a specific gay gene - which it is, if this gene is supposed to entirely determine sexuality - it nonetheless does indicate a genetic component, as random chance cannot account for such a dramatic increase in similar sexuality with similar genetics.

Yes there is. You'll notice most homosexuals have high voices. OR at least higher voices than the average man. This is because their vocal cords didn't develop in the same way that a non homosexual mans vocal chords develop because their testosterone levels are inferior to the testosterone levels of a heterosexual man.

BumFluff122

I'm pretty sure my voice is baritone. :?

I think it is.

Theokhoth

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

Yes there is. You'll notice most homosexuals have high voices. OR at least higher voices than the average man. This is because their vocal cords didn't develop in the same way that a non homosexual mans vocal chords develop because their testosterone levels are inferior to the testosterone levels of a heterosexual man.

Dark_Knight6

I'm pretty sure my voice is baritone. :?

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

Yes there is. You'll notice most homosexuals have high voices. OR at least higher voices than the average man. This is because their vocal cords didn't develop in the same way that a non homosexual mans vocal chords develop because their testosterone levels are inferior to the testosterone levels of a heterosexual man.

Dark_Knight6

I'm pretty sure my voice is baritone. :?

Then you're not gay .:| Congrats on solving that sexuality crisis. :D

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

Yes there is. You'll notice most homosexuals have high voices. OR at least higher voices than the average man. This is because their vocal cords didn't develop in the same way that a non homosexual mans vocal chords develop because their testosterone levels are inferior to the testosterone levels of a heterosexual man.

Dark_Knight6

I'm pretty sure my voice is baritone. :?

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

I think it is.

BumFluff122

Hormones aren't genes. . .

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

Yes there is. You'll notice most homosexuals have high voices. OR at least higher voices than the average man. This is because their vocal cords didn't develop in the same way that a non homosexual mans vocal chords develop because their testosterone levels are inferior to the testosterone levels of a heterosexual man.

BumFluff122

I'm pretty sure my voice is baritone. :?

What I mean is the search for a gay gene led them to conclude there wasn't one.

LJS9502_basic

Well yes, there's no one singular gay gene that controls sexuality, but there do appear to be genes that are correlated with sexuality. So it depends on what one means by "a gay gene". :P

Hormones aren't genes. . .

Theokhoth