Is there a g@y gene?

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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

To let you understand how incredibly wrong what you just said is, allow me to rephrase that from my point of view:

As an asexual I think the only reason a straight person will want to change to asexuality (which as we all know is the morally superior sexual orientation, one need look no farther than the Bible for proof) is not because he/she doesn't like what he/she is, but because of what others think about it.

gameguy6700

No. I can assure you that a gay man no less chose to be homosexual than I chose to be asexual or you chose to be straight. Which is to say that none of us ever had a choice. You suddenly started liking girls sometime between 4th and 6th grade, he suddenly started liking boys during the same time span, and I never did develop any new, special feelings towards either sex.

Actually, I didn't start liking boys until the end of my senior year.

[QUOTE="angusclone2"][QUOTE="BlueBirdTS"]

Which is caused by what? Magical feelings in your heart?

BlueBirdTS

Take a look at this:

Psychology is just a sub-branch of biology in a way.

There isn't anygay gene, as you choose to call it. It's either a lack of a certain hormones, or an overabundance of one. People wouldhave found a gay gene years ago if it existed. You can be in denial about your sexuality, but it's not a choice and it cannot disappear.

Very much a choice..

Maybe not a gene, but I don't think its a choice, much like its not a choice for people to be straight.

No, it's by choice, and influence.Cantius

Very much a choice..

Santesyu

So at what age did you decide to be straight or gay?

Maybe not a gene, but I don't think its a choice, much like its not a choice for people to be straight.

Grodus5

[QUOTE="Santesyu"]

Very much a choice..

So at what age did you decide to be straight or gay?

[QUOTE="Santesyu"]

Very much a choice..

mfacek

So at what age did you decide to be straight or gay?

Very much a choice..

Santesyu

[QUOTE="Santesyu"]

Very much a choice..

So at what age did you decide to be straight or gay?

[QUOTE="Santesyu"]

Very much a choice..

So at what age did you decide to be straight or gay?

Well I certainly didn't choose to be gay :?Sim_genius

[QUOTE="Santesyu"][QUOTE="mfacek"]

So at what age did you decide to be straight or gay?

Sway-

[QUOTE="Santesyu"]

Very much a choice..

So at what age did you decide to be straight or gay?

[QUOTE="Sway-"][QUOTE="Santesyu"] I didn't, thats the differences in choosing and just by natural instinct. And if using science as a back up is hardly really fact good theories at best.Santesyu

[QUOTE="mfacek"]

[QUOTE="Santesyu"]

Very much a choice..

Santesyu

So at what age did you decide to be straight or gay?

[QUOTE="Sway-"][QUOTE="Santesyu"] I didn't, thats the differences in choosing and just by natural instinct. And if using science as a back up is hardly really fact good theories at best.Santesyu

[QUOTE="mfacek"]

[QUOTE="Santesyu"]

Very much a choice..

Santesyu

So at what age did you decide to be straight or gay?

Personally this nation and everything it founded on was between a man and a woman, if it was any other way it would be un-natural.Santesyu

Driving a car is orders of magnitude more "un-natural" than being attracted to members of the same sex.

[QUOTE="Santesyu"]Personally this nation and everything it founded on was between a man and a woman, if it was any other way it would be un-natural.GabuEx

Driving a car is orders of magnitude more "un-natural" than being attracted to members of the same sex.

True. This country was founded on the basis of an agrarian society (Thomas Jefferson) rather than an industrial one (Hamilton). Yet, look where we are now.

[QUOTE="Santesyu"][QUOTE="mfacek"]

So at what age did you decide to be straight or gay?

Grodus5

[QUOTE="Santesyu"][QUOTE="mfacek"]

So at what age did you decide to be straight or gay?

xaos

[QUOTE="Santesyu"]

[QUOTE="Sway-"] So what if a man naturally like men. They just feel it and never thought about it? Its the same thing you did just diffrent outcome.mfacek

How did you get here, how did everyone get here this generation or the next one or the next one? Next question please!Santesyu

And yet, homosexual attractions have been observed many times in other animals.

So the question remains: what does it mean for something to be "natural"? This word is often used, seldom defined.

[QUOTE="Grodus5"][QUOTE="Santesyu"] I didn't, thats the differences in choosing and just by natural instinct. And if using science as a back up is hardly really fact good theories at best.Santesyu

EDIT: Dang GabuEx, beat me too it. I can tell we're on the same page here.

[QUOTE="Wilfred_Owen"]The gay gene sounds like Spiderman powers. Thats awesome! Xaos do you have super powers?xaos

There isn't anygay gene, as you choose to call it. It's either a lack of a certain hormones, or an overabundance of one. People wouldhave found a gay gene years ago if it existed. You can be in denial about your sexuality, but it's not a choice and it cannot disappear.

calvinsora

Assuming you're talking to me, I'm not the only one who chooses to call it a gay gene, if there is one. It's a debatable cause of homosexuality that some science is trying to find out. If there isn't a gay gene, or genes, then it may be hormonal.

[QUOTE="mfacek"][QUOTE="Santesyu"] Personally this nation and everything it founded on was between a man and a woman, if it was any other way it would be un-natural.

Santesyu

I agree, homosexuality is not "normal". However, just because something is abnormal does not mean it is morally wrong IMO.

[QUOTE="Grodus5"][QUOTE="Santesyu"] I didn't, thats the differences in choosing and just by natural instinct. And if using science as a back up is hardly really fact good theories at best.Santesyu

How did you get here, how did everyone get here this generation or the next one or the next one? Next question please!Santesyu

[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

There isn't anygay gene, as you choose to call it. It's either a lack of a certain hormones, or an overabundance of one. People wouldhave found a gay gene years ago if it existed. You can be in denial about your sexuality, but it's not a choice and it cannot disappear.

dog64

Assuming you're talking to me, I'm not the only one who chooses to call it a gay gene, if there is one. It's a debatable cause of homosexuality that some science is trying to find out. If there isn't a gay gene, or genes, then it may be hormonal.

But what causes abnormal hormone levels? Your genes!

[QUOTE="Santesyu"]How did you get here, how did everyone get here this generation or the next one or the next one? Next question please!GabuEx

And yet, homosexual attractions have been observed many times in other animals.

So the question remains: what does it mean for something to be "natural"? This word is often used, seldom defined.

[QUOTE="Santesyu"]How did you get here, how did everyone get here this generation or the next one or the next one? Next question please!xaos

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Santesyu"]How did you get here, how did everyone get here this generation or the next one or the next one? Next question please!Santesyu

And yet, homosexual attractions have been observed many times in other animals.

So the question remains: what does it mean for something to be "natural"? This word is often used, seldom defined.

[QUOTE="Grodus5"][QUOTE="Santesyu"] I didn't, thats the differences in choosing and just by natural instinct. And if using science as a back up is hardly really fact good theories at best.Santesyu

I think its mostly an early childhood phenomena which could be explained by problematic Primary Objects (parents or caregivers), dysfunctional families. Maybe in some cases a common genetic or biochemical situation...but I would put stock in the other.

[QUOTE="Santesyu"]How did you get here, how did everyone get here this generation or the next one or the next one? Next question please!GabuEx

And yet, homosexual attractions have been observed many times in other animals.

So the question remains: what does it mean for something to be "natural"? This word is often used, seldom defined.

Along the same lines, what is "normal"?

Just because it is observed in other animals doesn't mean its natural, just because a a male horse can get in the mood over a human female is that natural?Santesyu

Then define natural. Can you?

[QUOTE="Sway-"][QUOTE="Santesyu"] I didn't, thats the differences in choosing and just by natural instinct. And if using science as a back up is hardly really fact good theories at best.Santesyu

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Santesyu"]How did you get here, how did everyone get here this generation or the next one or the next one? Next question please!Santesyu

[QUOTE="Santesyu"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

And yet, homosexual attractions have been observed many times in other animals.

So the question remains: what does it mean for something to be "natural"? This word is often used, seldom defined.

mfacek

Homosexuality is natural.

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Santesyu"]How did you get here, how did everyone get here this generation or the next one or the next one? Next question please!Santesyu

You are the genius here, you define it.Santesyu

If your argument uses a term and yet you can't even tell us what it means, how do you expect that argument to have any effect?