Islamic parents get life for murdering westernised daughter.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="jackfruitchips"]

Muslims go to Western countries and dont like their children get Westernized ? then go back to deserts.

I'm sure there are more "honorable killings" like this in the future.

FMAB_GTO

[QUOTE="Rhazakna"] Fundamentalist Christianity is every bit as bad as Radical Islam, if not worse.-Sun_Tzu-

Christianity might have problems, but it doesn't seem to encourage violence the way Islam does.

Worst thing I can think of that Christianity causes in modern day is anti-intellectualism. Worst things Muslims do is kill and kill and kill.

Worst things Muslims do is kill and kill and kill.TopTierHustler

[QUOTE="jackfruitchips"]

Muslims go to Western countries and dont like their children get Westernized ? then go back to deserts.

I'm sure there are more "honorable killings" like this in the future.

ghoklebutter

Edit. Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity ?

- Killing your own children for getting Westernized lol

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Rhazakna"] Fundamentalist Christianity is every bit as bad as Radical Islam, if not worse.TopTierHustler

Christianity might have problems, but it doesn't seem to encourage violence the way Islam does.

Worst thing I can think of that Christianity causes in modern day is anti-intellectualism. Worst things Muslims do is kill and kill and kill.

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]Worst things Muslims do is kill and kill and kill.MrPraline

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bu bu but Muslims are so evil

Bucked20

You are incredibly shallow.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="jackfruitchips"]

Muslims go to Western countries and dont like their children get Westernized ? then go back to deserts.

I'm sure there are more "honorable killings" like this in the future.

jackfruitchips

Edit. Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity ?

Killing your own children for getting Westernized lol

Look to India, non-Muslim country which some of the populous have committed honor killings. Really it's a relic of the cultures that existed there before Islam.

Look to India, non-Muslim country which some of the populous have committed honor killings. Communist_Soul

[QUOTE="jackfruitchips"]

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] It's a weird quasi-colonialist mindset: they want to maintain their strong cultural presence wherever they go. Most foreign Muslims I know are pretty moderate in regards to their home culture, however. Communist_Soul

Edit. Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity ?

Killing your own children for getting Westernized lol

Look to India, non-Muslim country which some of the populous have committed honor killings. Really it's a relic of the cultures that existed there before Islam.

[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]Look to India, non-Muslim country which some of the populous have committed honor killings. MrPraline

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] I don't see many fundamentalist christians blowing up buildings or threatening (and in some cases taking) the lives of those with the courage to criticize them in public. Allthishate

Christianity might have problems, but it doesn't seem to encourage violence the way Islam does.

Worst thing I can think of that Christianity causes in modern day is anti-intellectualism. Worst things Muslims do is kill and kill and kill.

zzz. Its a @%@% cultural thing more then a #@$%#% religious thing. PERFECT EXAMPLE INDIAN SEEKS are 10 times more oppressive to there wives and daughters and have had many Honor killings due to disgracing the family (IE not wanting to marry the man the father wants her to). Do research before u go on another Muslim witch hunt. Its a pathetic mind set but they are not educated and rely on there culture to get on with there day to day lives. Allthishate

[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]Look to India, non-Muslim country which some of the populous have committed honor killings. MrPraline

Hey oh http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1991195,00.html

Also what I meant was non-majority Muslim country. Bad use of language on my part.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]Look to India, non-Muslim country which some of the populous have committed honor killings. Allthishate

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]Look to India, non-Muslim country which some of the populous have committed honor killings. Communist_Soul

Hey oh http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1991195,00.html

Also what I meant was non-majority Muslim country. Bad use of language on my part.

[QUOTE="Allthishate"]zzz. Its a @%@% cultural thing more then a #@$%#% religious thing. PERFECT EXAMPLE INDIAN SEEKS are 10 times more oppressive to there wives and daughters and have had many Honor killings due to disgracing the family (IE not wanting to marry the man the father wants her to). Do research before u go on another Muslim witch hunt. Its a pathetic mind set but they are not educated and rely on there culture to get on with there day to day lives. MrPraline

[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

[QUOTE="jackfruitchips"] Many Asian immigrants/regugees like myself who live in US/Western countries try to keep their cultures too, but we've never seen any parents kill their children for becoming too Westenized like the Muslims. So I beleive Islam has something to do (even if indirectly like you said) with this honor killings. Many Muslims blame non-Muslims foe hating Islam for no reason yet Muslims make Islam look bad by doing disgusting things like this.

Edit. Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity ?

Killing your own children for getting Westernized lol

Allthishate

Look to India, non-Muslim country which some of the populous have committed honor killings. Really it's a relic of the cultures that existed there before Islam.

[QUOTE="Allthishate"][QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

Look to India, non-Muslim country which some of the populous have committed honor killings. Really it's a relic of the cultures that existed there before Islam.

ghoklebutter

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="Allthishate"] Pretty much this. Allthishate

How about all those public shooting in America? You guys must all be mental gun toting maniacs amirite?
Yeah, it's pretty fun to generalise

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="Allthishate"]zzz. Its a @%@% cultural thing more then a #@$%#% religious thing. PERFECT EXAMPLE INDIAN SEEKS are 10 times more oppressive to there wives and daughters and have had many Honor killings due to disgracing the family (IE not wanting to marry the man the father wants her to). Do research before u go on another Muslim witch hunt. Its a pathetic mind set but they are not educated and rely on there culture to get on with there day to day lives. Allthishate

How about all those public shooting in America? You guys must all be mental gun toting maniacs amirite?
Yeah, it's pretty fun to generalise

OB-47

[QUOTE="Allthishate"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] Islam doesn't directly allow honor killings (you can't find it anywhere in Islamic sources) but it does provide a cultural framework upon which honor killings are being justified. So it still deserves partial blame.ghoklebutter

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

How about all those public shooting in America? You guys must all be mental gun toting maniacs amirite?
Yeah, it's pretty fun to generalise

MrPraline

America gives one the right to hold a weapon, so like many say the Koran is partial to blame here, you could say the 2nd ammendment is partial to blame for the shootings?

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="Allthishate"] So does Hinduism so does any freking religious out there. It comes down to honor. the japaneese what ever. Allthishate

zzz. Its a @%@% cultural thing more then a #@$%#% religious thing. Allthishate

[QUOTE="Allthishate"]

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] But I'm talking about Islam, not any other religion. Sorry.MrPraline

[QUOTE="Allthishate"][QUOTE="MrPraline"] The culture and Islam are closely related. But okay. Man. You are of peace. MrPraline

Truth is, culture has a big role to play here since most of the honour killings ive heard about among Muslims have been from Pakistan and some from Afghanistan. And many times the Pakistani ones have forced marraiges involved.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

How about all those public shooting in America? You guys must all be mental gun toting maniacs amirite?
Yeah, it's pretty fun to generalise

OB-47

America gives one the right to hold a weapon, so like many say the Koran is partial to blame here, you could say the 2nd ammendment is partial to blame for the shootings?

[QUOTE="Allthishate"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] Islam doesn't directly allow honor killings (you can't find it anywhere in Islamic sources) but it does provide a cultural framework upon which honor killings are being justified. So it still deserves partial blame.ghoklebutter

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="MrPraline"] Does America have a holy book. that is the direct word of Allah, that commands people to shoot Batman nerds on opening night? Didn't think so.MrPraline

America gives one the right to hold a weapon, so like many say the Koran is partial to blame here, you could say the 2nd ammendment is partial to blame for the shootings?

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2007-09-19/uk/27960424_1_honour-killings-surjit-family-members took me less then 1 min to find bra.Allthishate

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="Allthishate"] Culture and hinduism is closely related again whats your point ? Armenians and Christianity and culture are closely related THE COMMON denominator they are not educated = they follow there culture and religion closely. BossPerson

Truth is, culture has a big role to play here since most of the honour killings ive heard about among Muslims have been from Pakistan and some from Afghanistan. And many times the Pakistani ones have forced marraiges involved.

I'd say a lack of education is definitly one of the biggest factors in these things.

[QUOTE="Allthishate"]http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2007-09-19/uk/27960424_1_honour-killings-surjit-family-members took me less then 1 min to find bra.MrPraline

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

America gives one the right to hold a weapon, so like many say the Koran is partial to blame here, you could say the 2nd ammendment is partial to blame for the shootings?

Allthishate

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

[QUOTE="MrPraline"] Lovely tu quoque argument here. Good job showing me. Except you didn't. I'm talking about Islam. Which should be obvious because this topic is about Islam. I'm not talking about Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism et al.OB-47

Truth is, culture has a big role to play here since most of the honour killings ive heard about among Muslims have been from Pakistan and some from Afghanistan. And many times the Pakistani ones have forced marraiges involved.

I'd say a lack of education is definitly one of the biggest factors in these things.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]Well... to understand it in its proper context, other examples are needed. Does Islam have a roll to play here? Of Course. But is Islam the sole factor? No. BossPerson