Israel to attack Iran?

[QUOTE="godwhydoibother"]airshocker - judging by your genocidal predilictions and their tough-guy, testosterone-drenched delivery, I'm going to guess that you are or have been involved in the military. Yes?airshocker

Lol. This is not acting very tough. This is just saying what nearly everyone in the world is thinking.

And yes, I was in the Air Force for six years.

I'm all for Israel wiping Iran off the face of the Earth.

airshocker

Huh. I would've thought that most people were against invading a country for a problem that can be solved using diplomacy.

Even in 1944, only 10% of the US population supported the total destruction of Japan. Rest assured, your desire for the genocidal destruction of Iran is limited to a small group of manic xenophobes such as yourself.godwhydoibother

Nothing genocidal or xenophobic about wanting evil countries wiped off the face of the Earth.

[QUOTE="GrabTheYayo"]

ya and how much oil do you think one country to make? do you know how expensive oil will be?....do you think russia and china will let useless zionist israel wipe iran off the map? nah buddy.....usa and israel both will get wiped off the map.

airshocker

Considering Saudi Arabia puts out the most oil...I'm not too concerned.

Russia and China wouldn't do jack and I'm sorry to ruin your fantasies, but the USA won't be going anywhere either.

Huh. I would've thought that most people were against invading a country for a problem that can be solved using diplomacy.

jaydough

Really? Diplomacy is doing so well over there, huh? I'm not for America invading Iran unless absolutely necessary. But if Israel wants to become part of the world police force, I'm fine with that.

[QUOTE="GrabTheYayo"]

ya and how much oil do you think one country to make? do you know how expensive oil will be?....do you think russia and china will let useless zionist israel wipe iran off the map? nah buddy.....usa and israel both will get wiped off the map.

airshocker

Considering Saudi Arabia puts out the most oil...I'm not too concerned.

Russia and China wouldn't do jack and I'm sorry to ruin your fantasies, but the USA won't be going anywhere either.

And anti-semitic much?

[QUOTE="jaydough"]

Huh. I would've thought that most people were against invading a country for a problem that can be solved using diplomacy.

airshocker

Really? Diplomacy is doing so well over there, huh? I'm not for America invading Iran unless absolutely necessary. But if Israel wants to become part of the world police force, I'm fine with that.

iran has bombs pointing at saudi. iran gets bombed = saudi gets bombed. they will set the persian gulf on fire. russia and china gets their oil from iran. iran is the second most oil producing country in the world. oil prices will be sky rocketing.

GrabTheYayo

I very much doubt Iran is going to attack Saudi Arabia when they are trying to save themselves from "zionist" Israel.

[QUOTE="GrabTheYayo"]

ya and how much oil do you think one country to make? do you know how expensive oil will be?....do you think russia and china will let useless zionist israel wipe iran off the map? nah buddy.....usa and israel both will get wiped off the map.

airshocker

Considering Saudi Arabia puts out the most oil...I'm not too concerned.

Russia and China wouldn't do jack and I'm sorry to ruin your fantasies, but the USA won't be going anywhere either.

And anti-semitic much?

And what do you think Saudi Arabia would do when it sees Israel invading a sovereign nation with no provocation using a military completely equipped with U.S. bought supplies, and just years after the U.S. invaded a sovereign nation with no provocation nonetheless? I'm pretty sure most of the OPEC nations would threaten to cut the U.S. off. That's what you're not getting about this, Israel has always been on an island in the Middle East, Palestine has the support of just about everybody in the region.

It's not working because neither side is willing to compromise, and Israel has America's blind support.

jaydough

It's never going to change. But I'd rather support a country just trying to defend itself rather than a country hell-bent on exterminating the Jews.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]"Peace" tends to involve "Not fighting."PunishedOne

If you want peace, prepare for war.

[QUOTE="theone86"]I was using the royal you, ya know, the editorial.grape_of_wrath

I've seen plenty of editorials that use the editorial form for rants, so if you're speaking to form then no, I don't think it's juvenile. As for the content, no, I think calling Israel out on igniting a ****storm is perfectly acceptable.

[QUOTE="GrabTheYayo"]

iran has bombs pointing at saudi. iran gets bombed = saudi gets bombed. they will set the persian gulf on fire. russia and china gets their oil from iran. iran is the second most oil producing country in the world. oil prices will be sky rocketing.

airshocker

I very much doubt Iran is going to attack Saudi Arabia when they are trying to save themselves from "zionist" Israel.

[QUOTE="jaydough"]

It's not working because neither side is willing to compromise, and Israel has America's blind support.

airshocker

It's never going to change. But I'd rather support a country just trying to defend itself rather than a country hell-bent on exterminating the Jews.

Link

If Obama does give Israel a Nuclear shield.. Wouldnt that fulfil the prophecy of the anti-christ offering a peace treaty to Israel?

they will. saudi is a traitor to the arab world. iran warned them not to bend over to america. they didnt listen. missles are now pointing their way and saudi knows this so they got even more closer friends with usa.

GrabTheYayo

I'm sorry, I can't take you seriously anymore.

Even though you're half right, you just come off as exactly how I picture anti-westerners.

radical mullahs dont represent the entire country.

GrabTheYayo

But they have the President(of Iran) in their pockets, and the country hasn't done anything about him.

[QUOTE="jaydough"]

It's not working because neither side is willing to compromise, and Israel has America's blind support.

airshocker

It's never going to change. But I'd rather support a country just trying to defend itself rather than a country hell-bent on exterminating the Jews.

Quit the macho posturing. Opposing the mindless slaughter of 75,000,000 people isn't a 'weak' position or a 'liberal' position; it's a humane position, the position of any sane person with a semblance of a moral compass.godwhydoibother

Let me first clear up that I don't support killing everyone in Iran. Only the radicals and the people who support them. Removing them from the ignorance of an oppressive religious tyrant is quite humane in my eyes.

Yeah, the country with the 3rd most active troops per capita is just trying to defend itself.

jaydough

Yeah...they are surrounded by people who want to kill them, remember?

Link

If Obama does give Israel a Nuclear shield.. Wouldnt that fulfil the prophecy of the anti-christ offering a peace treaty to Israel?

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="GrabTheYayo"]

iran has bombs pointing at saudi. iran gets bombed = saudi gets bombed. they will set the persian gulf on fire. russia and china gets their oil from iran. iran is the second most oil producing country in the world. oil prices will be sky rocketing.

GrabTheYayo

I very much doubt Iran is going to attack Saudi Arabia when they are trying to save themselves from "zionist" Israel.

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="godwhydoibother"]Gosh, you're quite the relic, aren't you?godwhydoibother

You can't be a relic when you're 25 years old.

You can espouse your weak, liberal ideals all you want. The world would be a better place without Iran.

[QUOTE="GrabTheYayo"]

they will. saudi is a traitor to the arab world. iran warned them not to bend over to america. they didnt listen. missles are now pointing their way and saudi knows this so they got even more closer friends with usa.

airshocker

I'm sorry, I can't take you seriously anymore.

Even though you're half right, you just come off as exactly how I picture anti-westerners.

It baffles me as to why the U.S. still supports Israel. There's got to be some kind of monetary gain in doing so.

Dark_Knight6

Link

If Obama does give Israel a Nuclear shield.. Wouldnt that fulfil the prophecy of the anti-christ offering a peace treaty to Israel?

[QUOTE="jaydough"]

Yeah, the country with the 3rd most active troops per capita is just trying to defend itself.

airshocker

Yeah...they are surrounded by people who want to kill them, remember?

And what do you think Saudi Arabia would do when it sees Israel invading a sovereign nation with no provocation using a military completely equipped with U.S. bought supplies, and just years after the U.S. invaded a sovereign nation with no provocation nonetheless? I'm pretty sure most of the OPEC nations would threaten to cut the U.S. off. That's what you're not getting about this, Israel has always been on an island in the Middle East, Palestine has the support of just about everybody in the region.theone86

dude im greek. i support regime change in iran....but only if done by the persians them selves. usa and israel should just give some guns to the anit government rebels in iran. let them handle it.

GrabTheYayo

Now THAT'S a good idea. I don't think jaydough will love you anymore for that.

[QUOTE="godwhydoibother"]Quit the macho posturing. Opposing the mindless slaughter of 75,000,000 people isn't a 'weak' position or a 'liberal' position; it's a humane position, the position of any sane person with a semblance of a moral compass.airshocker

Let me first clear up that I don't support killing everyone in Iran. Only the radicals and the people who support them. Removing them from the ignorance of an oppressive religious tyrant is quite humane in my eyes.

[QUOTE="godwhydoibother"]Quit the macho posturing. Opposing the mindless slaughter of 75,000,000 people isn't a 'weak' position or a 'liberal' position; it's a humane position, the position of any sane person with a semblance of a moral compass.airshocker

Let me first clear up that I don't support killing everyone in Iran. Only the radicals and the people who support them. Removing them from the ignorance of an oppressive religious tyrant is quite humane in my eyes.

ROFL, you have no understanding of the intricacies of political and social progress. You don't just kill everyone who supports tyrants, that does absolutely nothing and many times is counter-productive, just take a look at any number of African rebellions. The fact is that Ahmedinijad (spelling) almost lost in the last election, and the only reason he won is because of his platform of social equality for he working clas$, not because of his religious extremism. Iran has to sort out its political situation for itself, no amount of outside pressure is going to accomplish it for them.

And do you know why they want to kill them? Because they continually uproot Palestinians from their homes and slaughter innocent civilians without any concern for things like "human rights."

jaydough

I wouldn't be too concerned with human rights either if I was being shot at with rockets every day.

[QUOTE="GrabTheYayo"]

dude im greek. i support regime change in iran....but only if done by the persians them selves. usa and israel should just give some guns to the anit government rebels in iran. let them handle it.

airshocker

Now THAT'S a good idea. I don't think jaydough will love you anymore for that.

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"][QUOTE="theone86"]I was using the royal you, ya know, the editorial.theone86

I've seen plenty of editorials that use the editorial form for rants, so if you're speaking to form then no, I don't think it's juvenile. As for the content, no, I think calling Israel out on igniting a ****storm is perfectly acceptable.

[QUOTE="jaydough"]

And do you know why they want to kill them? Because they continually uproot Palestinians from their homes and slaughter innocent civilians without any concern for things like "human rights."

airshocker

I wouldn't be too concerned with human rights either if I was being shot at with rockets every day.

Israel won't attack or invade anyone just like that. Weakening their national security is something I can't see them doing just like that, especially with how their neighbours feel about them.

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"]

Yeah, the country with the 3rd most active troops per capita is just trying to defend itself.

jaydough

Yeah...they are surrounded by people who want to kill them, remember?

ROFL, you have no understanding of the intricacies of political and social progress. You don't just kill everyone who supports tyrants, that does absolutely nothing and many times is counter-productive, just take a look at any number of African rebellions. The fact is that Ahmedinijad (spelling) almost lost in the last election, and the only reason he won is because of his platform of social equality for he working clas$, not because of his religious extremism. Iran has to sort out its political situation for itself, no amount of outside pressure is going to accomplish it for them.

theone86

Since when is that a bad thing? It doesn't need to be complicated. While Iran is controlled by people who want to exterminate the Jews, Israel can do whatever it needs to protect itself. If the Iranian population has any shred of self-preservation, they would get that dude out of office as fast as possible. It doesn't look like it's going to happen considering he's CORRUPT.

[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

Yeah...they are surrounded by people who want to kill them, remember?

l4dak47

Or if your home were illegally bulldozed by another country's regime, I suspect.godwhydoibother

Is that supposed to make me care? A population that does nothing while extremists kill other people gets no sympathy from me.

[QUOTE="jaydough"]

And do you know why they want to kill them? Because they continually uproot Palestinians from their homes and slaughter innocent civilians without any concern for things like "human rights."

airshocker

I wouldn't be too concerned with human rights either if I was being shot at with rockets every day.

Which is way worse than:

[QUOTE="jaydough"]

Yeah...they are surrounded by people who want to kill them, remember?

l4dak47

No one is totally Innocent in this game. But one sad thing is no one really cares about the Palestines, they are only pawns to use to make Israel look bad.

[QUOTE="godwhydoibother"]Or if your home were illegally bulldozed by another country's regime, I suspect.airshocker

Is that supposed to make me care? A population that does nothing while extremists kill other people gets no sympathy from me.

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="jaydough"] And do you know why they want to kill them? Because they continually uproot Palestinians from their homes and slaughter innocent civilians without any concern for things like "human rights."

GrabTheYayo

Israel's 22-day offensive in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip killed 1,434 people, including 960 civilians, 239 police officers and 235 fighters

Which is way worse than:

jaydough

Like I already said, a population that does nothing to combat the extemist faction firing off rockets into Israel gets no sympathy from me.

Israel's 22-day offensive in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip killed 1,434 people, including 960 civilians, 239 police officers and 235 fighters[>jaydough