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#151 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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So is the discussion over then?Sajo7

It's been over for awhile now. My views aren't going to change, neither are your's.

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#152 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Breaking News: Palestinian soldiers take a break for a rap battle. World in shock as one solider mercilessly destroys the other. Talk about potential violation of Geneva conventions.

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That would indeed be newsworthy. At least something different.

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#153 grape_of_wrath
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Israel could have VERY EASILY killed this family without taking down AN ENTIRE APARTMENT BUILDING.jaydough
Armchair generals ,now, are we?
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#154 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="godwhydoibother"]It's not a pun on anything. It's a comment about your refusal to condemn Israeli state-terrorism.jaydough

I'm never going to condemn the Israelis.

Would you condemn these guys? :)

I agree. I could never condemn people who do this.

**Warning, graphic**

Sad picture, but the Palestians do the exact same thing. It's unfortunate, but life is not fair and collateral damage always happens in war. The fact that you're not condeming both sides means you're not being objective.
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#155 Sajo7
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[QUOTE="Sajo7"]So is the discussion over then?airshocker

It's been over for awhile now. My views aren't going to change, neither are your's.

And yet you felt compelled to argue.
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#156 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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[QUOTE="Sajo7"]So is the discussion over then?airshocker

It's been over for awhile now. My views aren't going to change, neither are your's.

I'm willing to change my mind. You're just not convincing.

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#157 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="jaydough"] Israel could have VERY EASILY killed this family without taking down AN ENTIRE APARTMENT BUILDING.grape_of_wrath
Armchair generals ,now, are we?

Haven't you ever played COD MW2??

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#158 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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And yet you felt compelled to argue.Sajo7

Only because you called American soldiers the same as terrorists.

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#159 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

I'm never going to condemn the Israelis.

Would you condemn these guys? :)

l4dak47

I agree. I could never condemn people who do this.

**Warning, graphic**

Sad picture, but the Palestians do the exact same thing. It's unfortunate, but life is not fair and collateral damage always happens in war. The fact that you're not condeming both sides means you're not being objective.

I am condeming both sides. I'm just condemning Israel more.

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#160 Sajo7
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[QUOTE="Sajo7"]And yet you felt compelled to argue.airshocker

Only because you called American soldiers the same as terrorists.

Strawman, hmm.
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#161 grape_of_wrath
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[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

Soldiers actually care when collateral damage happens. Terrorists do not.

And since when did Israel care about collateral damage?

Do you have a care-o-meter present? Israel issues the same "we're sorry" statements the US does whenever it causes civilian casualties.....it's kind of a mandatory thing...the same way the PA condemns suicide bombings...
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#162 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="jaydough"] I agree. I could never condemn people who do this.

**Warning, graphic**

jaydough

Sad picture, but the Palestians do the exact same thing. It's unfortunate, but life is not fair and collateral damage always happens in war. The fact that you're not condeming both sides means you're not being objective.

I am condeming both sides. I'm just condemning Israel more.

I have seen no evidence of that yet.
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#163 Joker_268
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="GrabTheYayo"]

ya and how much oil do you think one country to make? do you know how expensive oil will be?....do you think russia and china will let useless zionist israel wipe iran off the map? nah buddy.....usa and israel both will get wiped off the map.

jaydough

Considering Saudi Arabia puts out the most oil...I'm not too concerned.

Russia and China wouldn't do jack and I'm sorry to ruin your fantasies, but the USA won't be going anywhere either.

And anti-semitic much?

Anti-zionist != anti-semitic.

80% of jews are not semite

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[QUOTE="Sajo7"]And yet you felt compelled to argue.airshocker

Only because you called American soldiers the same as terrorists.

Actually, he already explicitly stated that this was not his meaning...

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#165 grape_of_wrath
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[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="jaydough"] I agree. I could never condemn people who do this.

**Warning, graphic**

Sad picture, but the Palestians do the exact same thing. It's unfortunate, but life is not fair and collateral damage always happens in war. The fact that you're not condeming both sides means you're not being objective.

I am condeming both sides. I'm just condemning Israel more.

When you start condemning coalition forces with the same fervor you condemn Israel-i'll be willing to consider you objective...
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#166 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

Soldiers actually care when collateral damage happens. Terrorists do not.

grape_of_wrath

And since when did Israel care about collateral damage?

Do you have a care-o-meter present? Israel issues the same "we're sorry" statements the US does whenever it causes civilian casualties.....it's kind of a mandatory thing...the same way the PA condemns suicide bombings...

Only after it gets through Israel's tight rein on the media.

When scandal hits Israel, the Israeli government muzzles the entire press Iran-style. A reporter is jailed and Israeli press risks being shut down simply for reporting on the story. The IDF chose to disobey a court order and Israeli law by killing instead of arresting a Palestinian.

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#167 one_plum
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If only all this was a Shymalan movie; the only plot twist possible would be Israel and Iran becoming best buddies.

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#168 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Actually, he already explicitly stated that this was not his meaning...

chessmaster1989

You can explicitly state whatever you want. A duck still looks like a duck even if you call it a dog.

And I meant soldiers, not American soldiers. My bad on that one/

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#169 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] Sad picture, but the Palestians do the exact same thing. It's unfortunate, but life is not fair and collateral damage always happens in war. The fact that you're not condeming both sides means you're not being objective. grape_of_wrath

I am condeming both sides. I'm just condemning Israel more.

When you start condemning coalition forces with the same fervor you condemn Israel-i'll be willing to consider you objective...

I do condemn coalition forces. They're just giving people a reason to join Al-Queda.

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#170 grape_of_wrath
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[QUOTE="Joker_268"] 80% of jews are not semite

By definition-if you're jewish-you're semite...a 'semite' isn't even racial ,by origin-it's linguistically oriented....

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#171 Theokhoth
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If only all this was a Shymalan movie; the only plot twist possible would be Israel and Iran becoming best buddies.

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No no no no; the leader of Israel and the leader of Iran are actually brothers who separated at childhood by warring factions, and now they've grown up simply to repeat the tragic history that happened to them for millions of other people. Then it turns out that they're dead.
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#172 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Actually, he already explicitly stated that this was not his meaning...

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You can explicitly state whatever you want. A duck still looks like a duck even if you call it a dog.

And I meant soldiers, not American soldiers. My bad on that one/

Meh... if you assume his words have one meaning and he says they have another one, I'm going to go with his meaning.

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#173 Sajo7
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Actually, he already explicitly stated that this was not his meaning...

airshocker

You can explicitly state whatever you want. A duck still looks like a duck even if you call it a dog.

And I meant soldiers, not American soldiers. My bad on that one/

You thought I was talking about apples when I was talking about oranges, you just decided to accuse me of talking about apples.
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#174 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Meh... if you assume his words have one meaning and he says they have another one, I'm going to go with his meaning.

chessmaster1989

It wasn't unclear. He can make any excuse he wants, but the original statement is still there.

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#175 grape_of_wrath
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[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"][QUOTE="jaydough"] And since when did Israel care about collateral damage?

Do you have a care-o-meter present? Israel issues the same "we're sorry" statements the US does whenever it causes civilian casualties.....it's kind of a mandatory thing...the same way the PA condemns suicide bombings...

Only after it gets through Israel's tight rein on the media.

When scandal hits Israel, the Israeli government muzzles the entire press Iran-style. A reporter is jailed and Israeli press risks being shut down simply for reporting on the story. The IDF chose to disobey a court order and Israeli law by killing instead of arresting a Palestinian.

What ,a charmingly, biased way of looking at it. Anat kamm as an IDF soldier(not a reporter) serving as a head secretary of a central command officer-reproduced hundreds of classified documents,was discharged -and took them home with her...she then offered those the a 'Haaretz' reported who tried to publish them-was denied by censorship,asked to hand over all documents and reveal his source-refused,fled to england.in the time he was there-the leaker was discovered and arrested-and he was coerced to return and produce said documents-he eventually did.anat kamm was charged with espionage-the end.
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#176 grape_of_wrath
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Just to add-This was the biggest story in Israel for quite a while,having you not hearing about it is not an indication for a 'tight rein'.what would you call divulging classified documents to the media as a soldier?-if the haaretz journalist would have been arrested-you might have had a point......this case is surprisingly similar to the american record leak a while back-are you trying to make my point for me?
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#177 spliffstar12
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i hope israel gets destroyed
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#178 breakinglaws
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Why would people hope Israel gets destroyed? So the U.S can swoop in and go to war with Iran? Just because we won't support a pre-emptive strike just doesn't mean we won't save Israel, and Iran's military beating Israels? No way, all the middle east combined wouldn't have a chance attacking Israel.

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#179 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="GrabTheYayo"]

ya and how much oil do you think one country to make? do you know how expensive oil will be?....do you think russia and china will let useless zionist israel wipe iran off the map? nah buddy.....usa and israel both will get wiped off the map.

jaydough

Considering Saudi Arabia puts out the most oil...I'm not too concerned.

Russia and China wouldn't do jack and I'm sorry to ruin your fantasies, but the USA won't be going anywhere either.

And anti-semitic much?

Anti-zionist != anti-semitic.

The word "anti-semite" was repurpoused decades ago to mean "One who does not unquestioningly support Israel".

This worries worries me partially. I find Israel to be the most likely country to start WW3 and get us all killed. It's constant threats toward Iran and it's agressive nature toward the rest of the world is troubling.

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#180 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="00-Riddick-00"]

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If Obama does give Israel a Nuclear shield.. Wouldnt that fulfil the prophecy of the anti-christ offering a peace treaty to Israel?

Warship_19

Why do people believe Obama is the anti Christ. We thought Hitler was the Anti Christ, Then Stalin and so fourth. It will become obvious when the Anti Christ comes if he comes.

Actually it won't. Doesn't the prophecy of the anti christ require that no one see's him coming or see's through his disguise?

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#181 lordreaven
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="GrabTheYayo"]

ya and how much oil do you think one country to make? do you know how expensive oil will be?....do you think russia and china will let useless zionist israel wipe iran off the map? nah buddy.....usa and israel both will get wiped off the map.

Considering Saudi Arabia puts out the most oil...I'm not too concerned.

Russia and China wouldn't do jack and I'm sorry to ruin your fantasies, but the USA won't be going anywhere either.

And anti-semitic much?

Iran and Russia have a mutal defense pact, Israel would then be at wra with russia if Israel attacked.
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#182 SgtKevali
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I hope Israel doesn't do something like that. It would be a bad idea for all parties involved.

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#183 Espada12
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Why would people hope Israel gets destroyed? So the U.S can swoop in and go to war with Iran? Just because we won't support a pre-emptive strike just doesn't mean we won't save Israel, and Iran's military beating Israels? No way, all the middle east combined wouldn't have a chance attacking Israel.

breakinglaws

Why do people say these things? People need to stop saying two things in this thread IMO. People need to stop asking for Israel to get wiped out and they also need to stop underestimating the other arab nations.

Israel more than likely does not have the military strength to invade a foreign nation as far as Iran and protects its own especially considering Israel is surrounded by enemies for the most part. The reason the US gets away with this is simply because they were lucky enough to be placed on a continent with none of their enemies.