Israel to attack Iran?

[QUOTE="jaydough"]

Which is way worse than:

airshocker

Like I already said, a population that does nothing to combat the extemist faction firing off rockets into Israel gets no sympathy from me.

You WOULD care, though. Don't turn a blind eye to Israel's state terrorism while condemning Hamas'.godwhydoibother

The fact is, I don't. I don't live in Palestine. If I lived in Israel I'd probably want to do the exact same thing I'm advocating right now.

[QUOTE="jaydough"]

Israel's 22-day offensive in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip killed 1,434 people, including 960 civilians, 239 police officers and 235 fighters

Which is way worse than:

airshocker

Like I already said, a population that does nothing to combat the extemist faction firing off rockets into Israel gets no sympathy from me.

[QUOTE="jaydough"]

Israel's 22-day offensive in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip killed 1,434 people, including 960 civilians, 239 police officers and 235 fighters

Which is way worse than:

airshocker

Like I already said, a population that does nothing to combat the extemist faction firing off rockets into Israel gets no sympathy from me.

Are you utterly, totally incapable of applying the same moral standards to everyone?godwhydoibother

I didn't know terrorists deserved standards. Is there a rule I need to look up?

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="jaydough"] And do you know why they want to kill them? Because they continually uproot Palestinians from their homes and slaughter innocent civilians without any concern for things like "human rights."

[QUOTE="jaydough"]

Israel's 22-day offensive in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip killed 1,434 people, including 960 civilians, 239 police officers and 235 fighters

Which is way worse than:

airshocker

Like I already said, a population that does nothing to combat the extemist faction firing off rockets into Israel gets no sympathy from me.

I don't think the population could do anything if they even wanted. The extremist and militants are the ones armed. Plus if that link is accurate, 13 Israelis for 1434 Palestinians is overkill to the extreme. I'm not sure why people would think it's a good idea to go on an all out assault in a crowded city to kill a couple extremists firing rockets that most of the time, do nothing.

[QUOTE="godwhydoibother"]Are you utterly, totally incapable of applying the same moral standards to everyone?airshocker

I didn't know terrorists deserved standards. Is there a rule I need to look up?

Semantics, both Bush and Obama used bombers or drones that have killed Iraqi civilians. What have we as Americans done about that?Sajo7

:shock: Are you seriously trying to say that terrorists are the same as soldiers fighting a war?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Everyone deserves standards, I'm pretty sure we wrote that down somewhere here in the US.Sajo7

I'm a little bit more common-sense in my thinking.

[QUOTE="Sajo7"]Semantics, both Bush and Obama used bombers or drones that have killed Iraqi civilians. What have we as Americans done about that?airshocker

:shock: Are you seriously trying to say that terrorists are the same as soldiers fighting a war?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

I'm not sure why people would think it's a good idea to go on an all out assault in a crowded city to kill a couple extremists firing rockets that most of the time, do nothing.Espada12

[QUOTE="Sajo7"]Semantics, both Bush and Obama used bombers or drones that have killed Iraqi civilians. What have we as Americans done about that?airshocker

:shock: Are you seriously trying to say that terrorists are the same as soldiers fighting a war?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

I don't think the dead see much of a difference between the two.Sajo7

The dead don't see much of anything. They are dead, after all.

Either way, mistakes do happen in war. But to compare soldiers fighting a war to terrorists is absurd. And if you truly feel that way we have nothing to discuss.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]I'm not sure why people would think it's a good idea to go on an all out assault in a crowded city to kill a couple extremists firing rockets that most of the time, do nothing.grape_of_wrath

I agree that it would be silly to do nothing, but have you guys ever tried using commandos to assassinate rather than go all out offensive? As far as I'm aware you have one of the best special ops in the world, with only the UK and US being ahead training wise. Or is that just too ineffective?

On December 30, 2008, Israel took down an entire apt building of civilians to kill the family of one man. In America, we call that terrorism.

jaydough

Unless you have a corresponding news article from someplace reputable, you're going to have to do better than pictures. Even then I probably won't believe it.

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="Sajo7"]Semantics, both Bush and Obama used bombers or drones that have killed Iraqi civilians. What have we as Americans done about that?jaydough

:shock: Are you seriously trying to say that terrorists are the same as soldiers fighting a war?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

[QUOTE="godwhydoibother"]Are you utterly, totally incapable of applying the same moral standards to everyone?airshocker

I didn't know terrorists deserved standards. Is there a rule I need to look up?

[QUOTE="Sajo7"]I don't think the dead see much of a difference between the two.airshocker

The dead don't see much of anything. They are dead, after all.

Either way, mistakes do happen in war. But to compare soldiers fighting a war to terrorists is absurd. And if you truly feel that way we have nothing to discuss.

]Apparently state-terrorists do?godwhydoibother

Sorry, is that a pun on soldiers?

Unless you have a corresponding news article from someplace reputable, you're going to have to do better than pictures. airshocker

Even then I probably won't believe it.airshocker

edit: Wrong article.

[QUOTE="jaydough"]

It's not working because neither side is willing to compromise, and Israel has America's blind support.

airshocker

It's never going to change. But I'd rather support a country just trying to defend itself rather than a country hell-bent on exterminating the Jews.

It would appear that the mind of a myrmidon responds remarkably well to propaganda.

[QUOTE="godwhydoibother"]]Apparently state-terrorists do?airshocker

Sorry, is that a pun on soldiers?

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Am i the only person who is seriously terrified of the thought of two major countries going to war in this day and age? So many countries have nukes, it'd be the end of the world. GrabTheYayo

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"][QUOTE="Espada12"]I'm not sure why people would think it's a good idea to go on an all out assault in a crowded city to kill a couple extremists firing rockets that most of the time, do nothing.Espada12

I agree that it would be silly to do nothing, but have you guys ever tried using commandos to assassinate rather than go all out offensive? As far as I'm aware you have one of the best special ops in the world, with only the UK and US being ahead training wise. Or is that just too ineffective?

I get the feeling you think I am calling American soldiers terrorists, when in fact I'm calling the "terrorists" soldiers. Mistakes that we continue to make, I suppose you can call that negligence if you want. Just because you brand one man a soldier and another a terrorist doesn't do much.Sajo7

Mistakes don't happen every single day. The military might be ridiculous sometimes, but not all the time.

Terrorists are not soldiers. They might fancy themselves that way, but the reality is quite difference. Soldiers actually care when collateral damage happens. Terrorists do not.

Soldiers actually care when collateral damage happens. Terrorists do not.

airshocker

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="Sajo7"]Semantics, both Bush and Obama used bombers or drones that have killed Iraqi civilians. What have we as Americans done about that?jaydough

:shock: Are you seriously trying to say that terrorists are the same as soldiers fighting a war?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

It's not a pun on anything. It's a comment about your refusal to condemn Israeli state-terrorism.godwhydoibother

I'm never going to condemn the Israelis.

Would you condemn these guys? :)

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

Soldiers actually care when collateral damage happens. Terrorists do not.

jaydough

This is very true...

[QUOTE="Sajo7"]I get the feeling you think I am calling American soldiers terrorists, when in fact I'm calling the "terrorists" soldiers. Mistakes that we continue to make, I suppose you can call that negligence if you want. Just because you brand one man a soldier and another a terrorist doesn't do much.airshocker

Mistakes don't happen every single day. The military might be ridiculous sometimes, but not all the time.

Terrorists are not soldiers. They might fancy themselves that way, but the reality is quite difference. Soldiers actually care when collateral damage happens. Terrorists do not.

And since when did Israel care about collateral damage?

jaydough

Do you have proof that they don't? Just because it happened doesn't mean they don't care.

[QUOTE="godwhydoibother"]It's not a pun on anything. It's a comment about your refusal to condemn Israeli state-terrorism.airshocker

I'm never going to condemn the Israelis.

Would you condemn these guys? :)

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

Soldiers actually care when collateral damage happens. Terrorists do not.

jaydough

Nice to know you're at least aware of how dogmatically closed-minded you are in your support of terrorist states.godwhydoibother

You didn't even watch the video! Good stuff starts at :40.

So what? Terrorists don't dance? Is that it?Sajo7

EXACTLY! At least, they don't dance to Ke$ha. You aren't human if you haven't danced to Ke$ha.

[QUOTE="jaydough"]

And since when did Israel care about collateral damage?

airshocker

Do you have proof that they don't? Just because it happened doesn't mean they don't care.

[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

:shock: Are you seriously trying to say that terrorists are the same as soldiers fighting a war?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

grape_of_wrath

2. What we're doing in Afghanistan is also shameful. For every terrorist we kill, 1,000 join Al-Qaeda. We're just giving the terrorists a reason to be terrorists.

[QUOTE="Sajo7"]So what? Terrorists don't dance? Is that it?airshocker

EXACTLY! At least they don't dance to Ke$ha.

Maybe they just have better taste in music? :P

Did you even bother to read the statistics on the Gaza War posted earlier?godwhydoibother

Did you even bother to look at my video?

Maybe they just have better taste in music? :P

chessmaster1989

Nonsense. :P

[QUOTE="godwhydoibother"]It's not a pun on anything. It's a comment about your refusal to condemn Israeli state-terrorism.airshocker

Would you condemnthese guys? :)

I hereby officially withdraw my support for the existence of the nation of Israel.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Maybe they just have better taste in music? :P

airshocker

Nonsense. :P

Breaking News: Palestinian soldiers take a break for a rap battle. World in shock as one solider mercilessly destroys the other. Talk about potential violation of Geneva conventions.

[QUOTE="godwhydoibother"]Did you even bother to read the statistics on the Gaza War posted earlier?airshocker

Did you even bother to look at my video?

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"][QUOTE="Espada12"]I'm not sure why people would think it's a good idea to go on an all out assault in a crowded city to kill a couple extremists firing rockets that most of the time, do nothing.Espada12

I agree that it would be silly to do nothing, but have you guys ever tried using commandos to assassinate rather than go all out offensive? As far as I'm aware you have one of the best special ops in the world, with only the UK and US being ahead training wise. Or is that just too ineffective?

I hereby officially withdraw my support for the existence of the nation of Israel.

coolbeans90

Bah. Go away, cb. :P