It is Merry Christmas! (not happy holidays)

I really don't care either way. People can choose whichever greeting they want. As for stores who choose "happy holidays", they probably are doing so because although the majority of their customers during the holidays are celebrating Christmas, there are still other winter holidays that they can profit off of (like Hanuka), so by saying "happy holidays" they are targeting a larger consumer base.-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]I really don't care either way. People can choose whichever greeting they want. As for stores who choose "happy holidays", they probably are doing so because although the majority of their customers during the holidays are celebrating Christmas, there are still other winter holidays that they can profit off of (like Hanuka), so by saying "happy holidays" they are targeting a larger consumer base.smc91352

I really don't care either way. People can choose whichever greeting they want. As for stores who choose "happy holidays", they probably are doing so because although the majority of their customers during the holidays are celebrating Christmas, there are still other winter holidays that they can profit off of (like Hanuka), so by saying "happy holidays" they are targeting a larger consumer base.-Sun_Tzu-

That may be the idea in theory, but in practice, it doesn't work. Most people want their holiday named specifically and don't want some kind of all-around term like "holidays". Even Wal-Mart is using Merry Christmas because that's what the majority of their customers want. Ironcally, when the people celebrating minority holidays are asked about this, most of them are also turned off by "happy holidays" because they understand that they are in the minority. If a store were trying to make money solely on the people celebrating minority holidays, they would flop big time.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]I really don't care either way. People can choose whichever greeting they want. As for stores who choose "happy holidays", they probably are doing so because although the majority of their customers during the holidays are celebrating Christmas, there are still other winter holidays that they can profit off of (like Hanuka), so by saying "happy holidays" they are targeting a larger consumer base.Jemdude

That may be the idea in theory, but in practice, it doesn't work. Most people want their holiday named specifically and don't want some kind of all-around term like "holidays". Even Wal-Mart is using Merry Christmas because that's what the majority of their customers want. Ironcally, when the people celebrating minority holidays are asked about this, most of them are also turned off by "happy holidays" because they understand that they are in the minority. If a store were trying to make money solely on the people celebrating minority holidays, they would flop big time.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]I really don't care either way. People can choose whichever greeting they want. As for stores who choose "happy holidays", they probably are doing so because although the majority of their customers during the holidays are celebrating Christmas, there are still other winter holidays that they can profit off of (like Hanuka), so by saying "happy holidays" they are targeting a larger consumer base.Jemdude

That may be the idea in theory, but in practice, it doesn't work. Most people want their holiday named specifically and don't want some kind of all-around term like "holidays". Even Wal-Mart is using Merry Christmas because that's what the majority of their customers want. Ironcally, when the people celebrating minority holidays are asked about this, most of them are also turned off by "happy holidays" because they understand that they are in the minority. If a store were trying to make money solely on the people celebrating minority holidays, they would flop big time.

I doubt that the people who boycott these stores for saying "happy holidays" have any significant effect on profits. -Sun_Tzu-

The AFA's efforts have proved successful in the past. In the last few years, their campaigns have convinced four major corporations to uncensor Christmas: Lowe's, Wal-Mart, Sears, and Home Depot.

"Three years ago, [they] were not recognizing the term Christmas in their advertising," said Sharp, "but ... this year, all four companies have personally contacted the AFA, invited us to look at their advertising program, and it is chock-full of Christmas."

11th and 12th paragraphs

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/nov/09111305.html

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] I doubt that the people who boycott these stores for saying "happy holidays" have any significant effect on profits. Jemdude

The AFA's efforts have proved successful in the past. In the last few years, their campaigns have convinced four major corporations to uncensor Christmas: Lowe's, Wal-Mart, Sears, and Home Depot.

"Three years ago, (they) were not recognizing the term Christmas in their advertising," said Sharp, "but ... this year, all four companies have personally contacted the AFA, invited us to look at their advertising program, and it is chock-full of Christmas."

11th and 12th paragraphs

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/nov/09111305.html

[QUOTE="smc91352"]Why are people taking offense to "Happy Holidays"? Those people need comprehension lessons :PLJS9502_basic

Jemdude

[QUOTE="tocool340"]Since I'm a bit accustom to saying Merry Christmas, I would say that but I would prefer to start saying happy holidays considering the different religions that celebrate and call it a different a different name....LJS9502_basic

So...they can put "Christmas" trees and "Christmas" decorations and all the other pop-culture Christmas stuff, but they cannot say "Merry Christmas?" That's just rather irksome. If they really wanted to avoid offending anyone (which I don't see how anyone would be upset over being said "Merry Christmas" to) wouldn't they put up other holiday decorations?

On the other hand the other religions should be happy their holidays are kept more sacred than our vastly marketable Christmas xD

I prefer Happy Christmas. :P

I prefer Happy Christmas. :P

shoot-first

Merry Christmas. I don't see why they should say anything else if it is in fact Christmas. I've seen people say "Happy Hanukkah", instead of "Merry CHristmas". Seeing as a Majority of this Country is Christian, stores I think would try and appeal to the masses.

Why do people need find it necessary to Degrade this Holiday? I celebrate Christmas a Catholic, I go to Church on Christmas and Observe it for what it really signifies.

theirs a reason so many people are agnostic...... religious fanatasicm at it's finest. typical examples:

"these jerks (from another religion) won't acknowledge that our savior is why they're making extra money right now, boycott!" christian fanatics

"these jerks (from another religion) are the international police and hurting our religion, terrorism!" jihad by middle eastern terrorist organizations

"these jerks (from another religion) are hurting our economy by being good businessmen, genocide!" hitler

see a similarity?

happy holidays everybody.

12345678ew

No. Except for the fact that no one ever says those things.

Merry Christmas. I don't see why they should say anything else if it is in fact Christmas. I've seen people say "Happy Hanukkah", instead of "Merry CHristmas". IF you're Jewish then Happy Hanukkah is Fine. Seeing as a Majority of this Country is Christian, stores I think wold try and appeal to the masses.

Why do people need find it necessary to Degrade this Holiday? I celebrate Christmas a Catholic, I go to Church on Christmas and Observe it for what it really signifies.

Snipes_2

Merry Christmas. I don't see why they should say anything else if it is in fact Christmas. I've seen people say "Happy Hanukkah", instead of "Merry CHristmas". IF you're Jewish then Happy Hanukkah is Fine. Seeing as a Majority of this Country is Christian, stores I think wold try and appeal to the masses.

Why do people need find it necessary to Degrade this Holiday? I celebrate Christmas a Catholic, I go to Church on Christmas and Observe it for what it really signifies.

Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Merry Christmas. I don't see why they should say anything else if it is in fact Christmas. I've seen people say "Happy Hanukkah", instead of "Merry CHristmas". IF you're Jewish then Happy Hanukkah is Fine. Seeing as a Majority of this Country is Christian, stores I think wold try and appeal to the masses.

Why do people need find it necessary to Degrade this Holiday? I celebrate Christmas a Catholic, I go to Church on Christmas and Observe it for what it really signifies.

Ed_Cetera

Ugh, You. Did I say they were inferior? No. Obviously there's no point in arguing with you because you'll never see it as degradation.

Merry Christmas. I don't see why they should say anything else if it is in fact Christmas. I've seen people say "Happy Hanukkah", instead of "Merry CHristmas". Seeing as a Majority of this Country is Christian, stores I think would try and appeal to the masses.

Why do people need find it necessary to Degrade this Holiday? I celebrate Christmas a Catholic, I go to Church on Christmas and Observe it for what it really signifies.

Snipes_2

They are appealing to the masses. The majority of people have a religion, happy holidays encorporates all religious holidays, there for happy holidays is more appealing to the masses than Merry Christmas.

[QUOTE="Ed_Cetera"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Merry Christmas. I don't see why they should say anything else if it is in fact Christmas. I've seen people say "Happy Hanukkah", instead of "Merry CHristmas". IF you're Jewish then Happy Hanukkah is Fine. Seeing as a Majority of this Country is Christian, stores I think wold try and appeal to the masses.

Why do people need find it necessary to Degrade this Holiday? I celebrate Christmas a Catholic, I go to Church on Christmas and Observe it for what it really signifies.

Snipes_2

Ugh, You. Did I say they were inferior? No. Obviously there's no point in arguing with you because you'll never see it as degradation.

Merry Christmas. I don't see why they should say anything else if it is in fact Christmas. I've seen people say "Happy Hanukkah", instead of "Merry CHristmas". Seeing as a Majority of this Country is Christian, stores I think would try and appeal to the masses.

Why do people need find it necessary to Degrade this Holiday? I celebrate Christmas a Catholic, I go to Church on Christmas and Observe it for what it really signifies.

Snipes_2

Also, to the masses, Christmas is more about commercial and ho ho ho santa claus than it is about Jesus. It already has been "degraded" and there is no turning back. Santa is more recognizable in Christmas than Jesus is. Atleast in the states.

[QUOTE="Ed_Cetera"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Merry Christmas. I don't see why they should say anything else if it is in fact Christmas. I've seen people say "Happy Hanukkah", instead of "Merry CHristmas". IF you're Jewish then Happy Hanukkah is Fine. Seeing as a Majority of this Country is Christian, stores I think wold try and appeal to the masses.

Why do people need find it necessary to Degrade this Holiday? I celebrate Christmas a Catholic, I go to Church on Christmas and Observe it for what it really signifies.

Snipes_2

Ugh, You. Did I say they were inferior? No. Obviously there's no point in arguing with you because you'll never see it as degradation.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Merry Christmas. I don't see why they should say anything else if it is in fact Christmas. I've seen people say "Happy Hanukkah", instead of "Merry CHristmas". Seeing as a Majority of this Country is Christian, stores I think would try and appeal to the masses.

Why do people need find it necessary to Degrade this Holiday? I celebrate Christmas a Catholic, I go to Church on Christmas and Observe it for what it really signifies.

Pixel-Pirate

They are appealing to the masses. The majority of people have a religion, happy holidays encorporates all religious holidays, there for happy holidays is more appealing to the masses than Merry Christmas.

Judaism: 1% of Population

Buddhism: 0.5% of Population

Islam: 0.6% of Population

Hinduism: 0.4% of Population

No Religion: 16.1% of Population

Christians: 76% of Population, used to be 86.2%

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="Ed_Cetera"] "Degrade" it? So the other holidays are all inferior? Ed_Cetera

Ugh, You. Did I say they were inferior? No. Obviously there's no point in arguing with you because you'll never see it as degradation.

I never said other religions were Degrading to Christmas. I said people Degrade the Christmas Holiday, by saying it is just a Holiday and it doesn't signify anything.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Merry Christmas. I don't see why they should say anything else if it is in fact Christmas. I've seen people say "Happy Hanukkah", instead of "Merry CHristmas". Seeing as a Majority of this Country is Christian, stores I think would try and appeal to the masses.

Why do people need find it necessary to Degrade this Holiday? I celebrate Christmas a Catholic, I go to Church on Christmas and Observe it for what it really signifies.

Snipes_2

They are appealing to the masses. The majority of people have a religion, happy holidays encorporates all religious holidays, there for happy holidays is more appealing to the masses than Merry Christmas.

Judaism: 1% of Population

Buddhism: 0.5% of Population

Islam: 0.6% of Population

Hinduism: 0.4% of Population

No Religion: 16.1% of Population

Christians: 76% of Population, used to be 86.2%

That proves my point. Combined, the religions are more than people with no religion. Happy holidays incorporates all religions, including christianity. Christianity is a religion so it cannot be greater than all religions (including itself) combined. Happy holidays (all religions combined)>Merry Christmas (just Christians)

[QUOTE="Ed_Cetera"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Ugh, You. Did I say they were inferior? No. Obviously there's no point in arguing with you because you'll never see it as degradation.

Snipes_2

I never said other religions were Degrading to Christmas. I said people Degrade the Christmas Holiday, by saying it is just a Holiday and it doesn't signify anything.

[QUOTE="Ed_Cetera"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Ugh, You. Did I say they were inferior? No. Obviously there's no point in arguing with you because you'll never see it as degradation.

Snipes_2

I never said other religions were Degrading to Christmas. I said people Degrade the Christmas Holiday, by saying it is just a Holiday and it doesn't signify anything.

For many many people it is "just a holiday" and it signifies spending time with ones loved ones, and showing compassion.

I never said other religions were Degrading to Christmas. I said people Degrade the Christmas Holiday, by saying it is just a Holiday and it doesn't signify anything.Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

They are appealing to the masses. The majority of people have a religion, happy holidays encorporates all religious holidays, there for happy holidays is more appealing to the masses than Merry Christmas.

Pixel-Pirate

Judaism: 1% of Population

Buddhism: 0.5% of Population

Islam: 0.6% of Population

Hinduism: 0.4% of Population

No Religion: 16.1% of Population

Christians: 76% of Population, used to be 86.2%

That proves my point. Combined, the religions are more than people with no religion. Happy holidays incorporates all religions, including christianity. Christianity is a religion so it cannot be greater than all religions (including itself) combined. Happy holidays (all religions combined)>Merry Christmas (just Christians)

How do 0.4, 0.6, 0.5, and 1 equal 16 or for that matter 76? I think 76% is a higher percentage than all the listed ones combined.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Not to get involved in his discussion but I think he means it degrades the holiday for those who celebrate it. Not that he's comparing....Ed_Cetera

I never said other religions were Degrading to Christmas. I said people Degrade the Christmas Holiday, by saying it is just a Holiday and it doesn't signify anything.Snipes_2

It may be a "Logical Conclusion" from your perspective. I in no way hinted that other Religions were inferior.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Judaism: 1% of Population

Buddhism: 0.5% of Population

Islam: 0.6% of Population

Hinduism: 0.4% of Population

No Religion: 16.1% of Population

Christians: 76% of Population, used to be 86.2%

Snipes_2

That proves my point. Combined, the religions are more than people with no religion. Happy holidays incorporates all religions, including christianity. Christianity is a religion so it cannot be greater than all religions (including itself) combined. Happy holidays (all religions combined)>Merry Christmas (just Christians)

How do 0.4, 0.6, 0.5, and 1 equal 16 or for that matter 76? I think 76% is a higher percentage than all the listed ones combined.

It may be a "Logical Conclusion" from your perspective. I in no way hinted that other Religions were inferior. Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="Ed_Cetera"] Eh, you claimed they degrade Christmas by calling it "holidays". Logical conclusion: you think the other holidays (ie Hanukkah) are inferior to Christmas. Ed_Cetera

It may be a "Logical Conclusion" from your perspective. I in no way hinted that other Religions were inferior.

I never made any connection between other Holidays and Christmas (I used Hanukkah as an Example, I never said saying "Happy Hanukkah degrades Christmas) . I just asked a question as to why people lambaste Christmas.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

That proves my point. Combined, the religions are more than people with no religion. Happy holidays incorporates all religions, including christianity. Christianity is a religion so it cannot be greater than all religions (including itself) combined. Happy holidays (all religions combined)>Merry Christmas (just Christians)

Teenaged

How do 0.4, 0.6, 0.5, and 1 equal 16 or for that matter 76? I think 76% is a higher percentage than all the listed ones combined.

No. Half of that percentage is made up of Catholics.

[QUOTE="Ed_Cetera"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

It may be a "Logical Conclusion" from your perspective. I in no way hinted that other Religions were inferior.

Snipes_2

I never made any connection between other Holidays and Christmas (I used Hanukkah as an Example, I never said saying "Happy Hanukkah degrades Christmas) . I just asked a question as to why people lambaste Christmas.

Please explain how Christmas is being lambasted.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

How do 0.4, 0.6, 0.5, and 1 equal 16 or for that matter 76? I think 76% is a higher percentage than all the listed ones combined.

Snipes_2

No. Half of that percentage is made up of Catholics.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Not 100% of that 76% though reacts to this change. In other words, not all Christians are bothered by this change, and I'd bet the minority of Christians is the one that is bothered.

Teenaged

No. Half of that percentage is made up of Catholics.

"In other words, not all Christians are bothered by this change, and I'd bet the minority of Christians is the one that is bothered."

That.

[QUOTE="Ed_Cetera"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

It may be a "Logical Conclusion" from your perspective. I in no way hinted that other Religions were inferior.

Snipes_2

I never made any connection between other Holidays and Christmas (I used Hanukkah as an Example, I never said saying "Happy Hanukkah degrades Christmas) . I just asked a question as to why people lambaste Christmas.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

No. Half of that percentage is made up of Catholics.

Snipes_2

"In other words, not all Christians are bothered by this change, and I'd bet the minority of Christians is the one that is bothered."

That.

Do you mean that Catholics are the ones not bothered?

And if yes, why do you believe that?

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="Ed_Cetera"] No, you merely claimed that equating Christmas to the other holidays degrades Christmas. Which is the same thing. :(Teenaged

I never made any connection between other Holidays and Christmas (I used Hanukkah as an Example, I never said saying "Happy Hanukkah degrades Christmas) . I just asked a question as to why people lambaste Christmas.

Please explain how Christmas is being lambasted.

People constantly question Christmas and its authenticity.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

I never made any connection between other Holidays and Christmas (I used Hanukkah as an Example, I never said saying "Happy Hanukkah degrades Christmas) . I just asked a question as to why people lambaste Christmas.

Snipes_2

Please explain how Christmas is being lambasted.

People constantly question Christmas and its authenticity.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Which means what exactly?

Teenaged

"In other words, not all Christians are bothered by this change, and I'd bet the minority of Christians is the one that is bothered."

That.

Do you mean that Catholics are the ones not bothered?

And if yes, why do you believe that?

Catholics are the ones that ARE bothered, I'm sure some people from the other denominations are as well.

"In other words, not all Christians are bothered by this change, and I'd bet the minority of Christians is the one that is bothered."

Catholics make up half of the 76%, you said only the Minorities are bothered.

[QUOTE="Ed_Cetera"] People degrade Christmas by saying "happy holidays" instead of "merry christmas". That is what you said isn't it?LJS9502_basic

I don't know, People on this forum like to argue with me.