It's 9/11... how many of you are conspiracy theorists?

I believe Osama bin Laden's highly destructive atomic fart caused the Towers to collapse.conistant

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="ANlMOSITY"]

Yep

ANlMOSITY

Lmao, yupp. 9/11 was just like the sinking of the Lusitania. The US purposely sent the Lusitania into German U-Boat territory for a reason to enter the war.

I believe there was more to 9/11 than is said.

Tower 7 is what had me believing there was a conspiracy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T2_nedORjw

I believe there was more to 9/11 than is said.

Tower 7 is what had me believing there was a conspiracy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T2_nedORjw

Mystic-G

[QUOTE="ANlMOSITY"]

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"] Well, I'm sold. The evidence you two have presented here - in combination with the fact-checking skills that ANIMOSITY has presented - leave me with no doubt that it truly was an inside job.BMD004

Lmao, yupp. 9/11 was just like the sinking of the Lusitania. The US purposely sent the Lusitania into German U-Boat territory for a reason to enter the war.

Yeah, pretty much

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

I believe there was more to 9/11 than is said.

Tower 7 is what had me believing there was a conspiracy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T2_nedORjw

BMD004

You do realize it would be the very first and only steel structure in history to ever collapse because of pure fire? This is to count the many that have had much worse fires that have burned much longer. Secondly, it wasn't at the base. I can tell you didn't even click the link just by what you said.

[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

I believe there was more to 9/11 than is said.

Tower 7 is what had me believing there was a conspiracy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T2_nedORjw

Mystic-G

You do realize it would be the very first and only steel structure in history to ever collapse because of pure fire? This is to count the many that have had much worse fires that have burned much longer. Secondly, it wasn't at the base. I can tell you didn't even click the link just by what you said.

Countless people claim to have heard and felt 3 explosions from the building.

I don't like to beleive in conspiracies but that Barry Jennings thing is pretty weird...

So what your saying is that GW Bush was some criminal mastermind who could dupe the entire world and pull off an event as large as 9/11? That's really what you're saying? You're saying GW Bush was this incredible evil genius? Really?

9/11 was an accident

Who ever thought that a couple of planes, with muslim extremists might ACCIDENTALLY fly into the same building?

The pilots were obviously tired

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

[QUOTE="BMD004"] Because tower 7 was on fire? If you notice with the twin towers, it is weakened at the point of impact. When it gives way, the part of the building that is above the plane crash smashes each floor all the way down. But on building 7, it collapses from the ground level. Why is this? Because it was on fire at the base of the building. When the base was weakened enough, the building fell.ANlMOSITY

You do realize it would be the very first and only steel structure in history to ever collapse because of pure fire? This is to count the many that have had much worse fires that have burned much longer. Secondly, it wasn't at the base. I can tell you didn't even click the link just by what you said.

Countless people claim to have heard and felt 3 explosions from the building.

[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] yea but there are still a lot of things that dont add up. like the part of the pentagon that was run into. why the planes weren't shot down first and a bunch of other stuffmems_1224

The part of the Pentagon that the plane crashed into was completely destroyed. The Pentagon was designed to withstand an impact of a plane that size, yet the plane managed to obliterate the part of the structure.

[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

I believe there was more to 9/11 than is said.

Tower 7 is what had me believing there was a conspiracy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T2_nedORjw

Mystic-G

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="BMD004"] Because tower 7 was on fire? If you notice with the twin towers, it is weakened at the point of impact. When it gives way, the part of the building that is above the plane crash smashes each floor all the way down. But on building 7, it collapses from the ground level. Why is this? Because it was on fire at the base of the building. When the base was weakened enough, the building fell.BMD004

Oklahoma bombing.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="BMD004"] What do you mean the part of the Pentagon that was run into? The planes weren't shot down because they had no idea that they were going to go kamakaze and crash them into buildings. ANlMOSITY

The part of the Pentagon that the plane crashed into was completely destroyed. The Pentagon was designed to withstand an impact of a plane that size, yet the plane managed to obliterate the part of the structure.

[QUOTE="ANlMOSITY"]

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

You do realize it would be the very first and only steel structure in history to ever collapse because of pure fire? This is to count the many that have had much worse fires that have burned much longer. Secondly, it wasn't at the base. I can tell you didn't even click the link just by what you said.

Mystic-G

Countless people claim to have heard and felt 3 explosions from the building.

[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

I believe there was more to 9/11 than is said.

Tower 7 is what had me believing there was a conspiracy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T2_nedORjw

Mystic-G

You do realize it would be the very first and only steel structure in history to ever collapse because of pure fire? This is to count the many that have had much worse fires that have burned much longer. Secondly, it wasn't at the base. I can tell you didn't even click the link just by what you said.

[QUOTE="ANlMOSITY"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] why would you fly in a big circle just to fly into the side of the pentagon? wouldn't you just nose dive on top of it to get the most casualties?? nope, instead the terrorists decide to hit the part of the pentagon that is the most fortified and the one part of the building with the least number of people. so you're saying that our military had no idea that people would one day use planes as bombs?? that they had no plan for that?? also, why would bush stay at the school in florida for another 30 minutes after being told that another plane crashed into the WTC and that another one was missing?? why would secret service allow him to stay there unless they knew for a fact that bush wasn't a target?PannicAtack

The part of the Pentagon that the plane crashed into was completely destroyed. The Pentagon was designed to withstand an impact of a plane that size, yet the plane managed to obliterate the part of the structure.

Yupp

I certainly do not believe any conspiracy theories on 9/11. With that being said it still doesn't change the fact that at one point in history plans were drawn up by the US government in 1962 to attack the US with terrorist like tactics so they could blame it on Cuba and retaliate (operation Northwoods). Kennedy did flat out reject that plan but it still doesn't change the fact that the idea was brought into existance and actually put on paper.

Still, I don't think our government would have done what was commited on 9/11 especially since we had been trying to track down Bin Laden and taken him out years and years before this even happened.

Why would a tower that was hit at the top of its structure have a controlled collapse

[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="Mystic-G"] You do realize it would be the very first steel structure in history to ever collapse because of pure fire Secondly, it wasn't at the base. Mystic-G

Oklahoma bombing.

Countless people claim to have heard and felt 3 explosions from the building.

ANlMOSITY

There were also reports of carbombs going off, it was chaos people did not know what was going on.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] why would you fly in a big circle just to fly into the side of the pentagon? wouldn't you just nose dive on top of it to get the most casualties?? nope, instead the terrorists decide to hit the part of the pentagon that is the most fortified and the one part of the building with the least number of people. so you're saying that our military had no idea that people would one day use planes as bombs?? that they had no plan for that?? also, why would bush stay at the school in florida for another 30 minutes after being told that another plane crashed into the WTC and that another one was missing?? why would secret service allow him to stay there unless they knew for a fact that bush wasn't a target?ANlMOSITY

The part of the Pentagon that the plane crashed into was completely destroyed. The Pentagon was designed to withstand an impact of a plane that size, yet the plane managed to obliterate the part of the structure.

@mems, the terrorist probably did not know how the Pentagon was built, so they just flew into it hoping to kill as many people as possible. The military didn't think they could pull off an attack, they do not have plans for everything, with attacks like that it hard to prepare for. Also where would the Secret Service take Bush, the school was a safe place at the moment. Rushing him out would not be a good idea, also it wouldn't be good to do in front of the kids.

@Animosity, I am not sure the Pentagon was made to withstand being hit by a 767. It was built well, but having a thing the size of a 767 crash into it going over 500mph would cause damage to almost anything; the only thing that might make it is the reactor domes around Nuclear power plants.

It's something I think happened almost ten years ago and therefore we should move on now. As long as we continue to dwell on, it seems like every 9/11 anniversary more tension toward muslim community rises....

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]9/11 conspiracy theories are no more valid or less ridiculous than moon-landing conspiracies or Holocaust-denial.DroidPhysX

There's plenty of pictures and videos of the pentagon after the plane hit.

Saying otherwise means you either haven't researched it or you are lying.

I'm tired of these threads, I'm going to go play some mind numbing CoD now.

I certainly do not believe any conspiracy theories on 9/11. With that being said it still doesn't change the fact that at one point in history plans were drawn up by the US government in 1962 to attack the US with terrorist like tactics so they could blame it on Cuba and retaliate (operation Northwoods). Kennedy did flat out reject that plan but it still doesn't change the fact that the idea was brought into existance and actually put on paper.

Still, I don't think our government would have done what was commited on 9/11 especially since we had been trying to track down Bin Laden and taken him out years and years before this even happened.

oneMoreComment

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]9/11 conspiracy theories are no more valid or less ridiculous than moon-landing conspiracies or Holocaust-denial.metroidfood

There's plenty of pictures and videos of the pentagon after the plane hit.

Saying otherwise means you either haven't researched it or you are lying.

Also there are a ton of people who saw the plane hit.

[QUOTE="ANlMOSITY"]

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"] Well, I'm sold. The evidence you two have presented here - in combination with the fact-checking skills that ANIMOSITY has presented - leave me with no doubt that it truly was an inside job.BMD004

Lmao, yupp. 9/11 was just like the sinking of the Lusitania. The US purposely sent the Lusitania into German U-Boat territory for a reason to enter the war.

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="ANlMOSITY"]

Countless people claim to have heard and felt 3 explosions from the building.

BMD004

Though he debunked where the fires were he said nothing the contribute as to why it fell.

Then watch this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMnVg7uXin8#t=1m39s

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="ANlMOSITY"]

Yep

ANlMOSITY

Lmao, yupp. 9/11 was just like the sinking of the Lusitania. The US purposely sent the Lusitania into German U-Boat territory for a reason to enter the war.

[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="Mystic-G"] All I know is I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I even used to believe people who thought 9/11 was a conspiracy were all crazy. After seeing all that needs to be said about WTC 7, I'm unconvinced merely fires on a few floors brought that huge building down. At least with the twin towers u can argue the original impact wiped out the core of the building. Mystic-G

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMnVg7uXin8#t=1m39s

[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="Mystic-G"] All I know is I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I even used to believe people who thought 9/11 was a conspiracy were all crazy. After seeing all that needs to be said about WTC 7, I'm unconvinced merely fires on a few floors brought that huge building down. At least with the twin towers u can argue the original impact wiped out the core of the building. Mystic-G

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMnVg7uXin8#t=1m39s

[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="ANlMOSITY"]

Lmao, yupp. 9/11 was just like the sinking of the Lusitania. The US purposely sent the Lusitania into German U-Boat territory for a reason to enter the war.

Joker_268

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

[QUOTE="BMD004"] Watch this then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QilSHm0Luj4&p=21A28B9609AB8493&playnext=1&index=53BMD004

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMnVg7uXin8#t=1m39s

Not to mention they did nothing with the rubble, they took it away and melted it. I find it funny that TWA will rebuild TWA Flight 800, but our own government won't even study the rubble from the building to just have knowledge of what happened and document it.

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

[QUOTE="BMD004"] Watch this then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QilSHm0Luj4&p=21A28B9609AB8493&playnext=1&index=53BMD004

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMnVg7uXin8#t=1m39s

[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="Mystic-G"] Then watch this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMnVg7uXin8#t=1m39s

Mystic-G

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="BMD004"] Watch this.. it's a lot shorter and a lot better than the last one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kSq663m0G8PannicAtack

All these youtube videos say nothing, it's just word for word from one man's perspective to another. The government's word says fires and they're supposed to have the most in-depth description and documented study of it.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"] I'll watch it, but I'm not here to debate it. I just simply believe that tower 7 didn't fall from fire alone considering the massive fires other steel building had in comparison. Even with 'frontal damage' which was never clearly defined. Not to mention they did nothing with the rubble, they took it away and melted it. I find it funny that our government will rebuild TWA Flight 800, but won't even study the rubble from the building to just have knowledge of what happened. Mystic-G

It doesn't just say fires. They say exactly what that last video says. Fire IN ADDITION to heavy damage to critical areas of the building. And you can just tell by the way it fell that it wasn't a controlled demolition. The building fell in parts.

/p>

@mems, the terrorist probably did not know how the Pentagon was built, so they just flew into it hoping to kill as many people as possible. The military didn't think they could pull off an attack, they do not have plans for everything, with attacks like that it hard to prepare for. Also where would the Secret Service take Bush, the school was a safe place at the moment. Rushing him out would not be a good idea, also it wouldn't be good to do in front of the kids.

Chaos_HL21

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"] When a building is demolished via explosives, it leaves behind evidence right in the open. Cleanup crews would have found blasting caps, detonating wire, etc. They didn't.

BMD004

It doesn't just say fires. They say exactly what that last video says. Fire IN ADDITION to heavy damage to critical areas of the building. And you can just tell by the way it fell that it wasn't a controlled demolition. The building fell in parts.

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"] When a building is demolished via explosives, it leaves behind evidence right in the open. Cleanup crews would have found blasting caps, detonating wire, etc. They didn't.

BMD004

It doesn't just say fires. They say exactly what that last video says. Fire IN ADDITION to heavy damage to critical areas of the building. And you can just tell by the way it fell that it wasn't a controlled demolition. The building fell in parts.

Looks all the same to me. Might wanna mute it after like 50 seconds otherwise u'll hear the same sentence over and over.

[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="ANlMOSITY"]

Lmao, yupp. 9/11 was just like the sinking of the Lusitania. The US purposely sent the Lusitania into German U-Boat territory for a reason to enter the war.

[QUOTE="BMD004"]

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]Were they supposed to be looking for anything like that? No. So even if they did see it chances are they wouldn't think anything of it. All these youtube videos say nothing, it's just word for word from one man's perspective to another. The government's word says fires and they're supposed to have the most in-depth description and documented study of it. mems_1224

It doesn't just say fires. They say exactly what that last video says. Fire IN ADDITION to heavy damage to critical areas of the building. And you can just tell by the way it fell that it wasn't a controlled demolition. The building fell in parts.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but the explanation given to us by the government was truly full of holes and I just don't buy their answer.

WTC7 was enough for me to never believe their story, there is no way such a heavily reinforced building to enough damage to make it fall in on itself like it did.