J.K. Rowling's Success

mmmmm jk rowling is gorgeous would love to meet her

Pff. At the very least, it's okay. Terrible? Go take a nap.BluRayHiDef

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"] Pff. At the very least, it's okay. Terrible? Go take a nap.LJS9502_basic

Pff. At the very least, it's okay. Terrible? Go take a nap.

BluRayHiDef

that picture of jk rowling has made me unable to focus on the subject at hand i will be returning to the discussion in aprox 10 minutes.

that picture of jk rowling has made me unable to focus on the subject at hand i will be returning to the discussion in aprox 10 minutes.

liberalus

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that picture of jk rowling has made me unable to focus on the subject at hand i will be returning to the discussion in aprox 10 minutes.

LJS9502_basic

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that picture of jk rowling has made me unable to focus on the subject at hand i will be returning to the discussion in aprox 10 minutes.

liberalus

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Pff. At the very least, it's okay. Terrible? Go take a nap.

Ninja-Hippo

I'm sorry, but I honestly disagree with you. I know it's not perfect, but awful? Oh, please. What exactly is "wrong" with it? Let me guess. It's too detailed and technical? Well, that's how I intended it to be. Show me a sample of your writing.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Pff. At the very least, it's okay. Terrible? Go take a nap.

BluRayHiDef

I'm sorry, but I honestly disagree with you. I know it's not perfect, but awful? Oh, please. What exactly is "wrong" with it? Let me guess. It's too detailed and technical? Well, that's how I intended it to be. Show me a sample of your writing.

Overall the entire scene is just worthless; a woman gets up and finds that the thermostat doesn't seem to be functioning. And this takes you a page and change. Riveting.

I do not write fiction, I write legal textbooks.

Do not post anything here again and ask for opinions because clearly you want approval, not opinions. 

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Next home truth - if you're going to get butthurt when people criticise your writing you clearly care more about sparing your feelings than you do about producing good work. I've published two books, neither fiction thankfully, and with both I had to go to weekly meetings and have an editor tell me how sh1t my last draft is. I would work for hours and hours on a submission and have it mailed back to me completely covered in red pen and notes, with a big line drawn through entire pages. Either get over it and get back to work, or find another hobby. Ninja-Hippo

I'm sorry, but I honestly disagree with you. I know it's not perfect, but awful? Oh, please. What exactly is "wrong" with it? Let me guess. It's too detailed and technical? Well, that's how I intended it to be. Show me a sample of your writing.

Overall the entire scene is just worthless; a woman gets up and finds that the thermostat doesn't seem to be functioning. And this takes you a page and change. Riveting.

I do not write fiction, I write legal textbooks.

Do not post anything here again and ask for opinions because clearly you want approval, not opinions. 

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Next home truth - if you're going to get butthurt when people criticise your writing you clearly care more about sparing your feelings than you do about producing good work. I've published two books, neither fiction thankfully, and with both I had to go to weekly meetings and have an editor tell me how sh1t my last draft is. I would work for hours and hours on a submission and have it mailed back to me completely covered in red pen and notes, with a big line drawn through entire pages. Either get over it and get back to work, or find another hobby. Ninja-Hippo

I'm sorry, but I honestly disagree with you. I know it's not perfect, but awful? Oh, please. What exactly is "wrong" with it? Let me guess. It's too detailed and technical? Well, that's how I intended it to be. Show me a sample of your writing.

Overall the entire scene is just worthless; a woman gets up and finds that the thermostat doesn't seem to be functioning. And this takes you a page and change. Riveting.

I do not write fiction, I write legal textbooks.

Do not post anything here again and ask for opinions because clearly you want approval, not opinions. 

You're basing your criticism on your experience in which your work was harshly edited during the publishing process. However, as you said, you write legal texts, not fiction, so your experience cannot be used to criticize my work. Furthermore, all of my college professors complemented me on my writing. So, as I said, I honestly disagree. Also, vague criticisms like "your sentence structure is poor" are meaningless without examples and explanations. Besides, I have a very good understanding of grammar, so that criticism is bollocks.

 

You're basing your criticism on your experience in which your work was harshly edited during the publishing process. However, as you said, you write legal texts, not fiction, so your experience cannot be used to criticize my work. Furthermore, all of my college professors complemented me on my writing. So, as I said, I honestly disagree. Also, vague criticisms like "your sentence structure is poor" are meaningless without examples and explanations. Besides, I have a very good understanding of grammar, so that criticism is bollocks.

BluRayHiDef

I made your opening paragraph better. Learn to take a few notes without engaging rage mode.

Emma Fords awoke to a seemingly desolate vessel. Her resting pod took pride of place in the centre of her living quarters, an upright enclosure more tomb than bed. Her heart rate slowly climbed, emerging from its long hibernation as life returned to her nervous system, her eyes easing themselves open to take in the dim surroundings. The pristine white quarters were host to few clues of human life; a desk and chair to the left, a closet on the right. The exit was flanked by digital storage drive containers, status lights flickering in the dark affording a subtle electronic glow to the otherwise forlorn atmosphere. After the routine scan, she raised a numb arm and softly pressed her hand against one of the twin glass panels, opening the doors with a swift whisper of motion. She emerged from her temporary coffin and stood idle for a second, waiting for her senses to return, for life to take hold. Immediately something wasn't right. For all its sparsity and minimalism, a room truly void of human sentiment, something still felt missing. Something familiar, something omnipotent; something which should have made itself known. Gerald. The ship's AI, Gerald's digital voice had become engrained in Emma's psyche, like a rising sun back home his presence wasn't just custom - it was expected - one of few consistencies in an otherwise chaotic vacuum. Emma brushed back the auburn strands of hair which covered her heavy eyes, inhaled the sharp artificial air and uttered an irritated greeting. "Gerald?", she murmured. "Gerald - where's my good morning?"

 [spoiler] Get a refund on that college education [/spoiler]

Her success is not a fluke, I love her writing. AbstractRadical

"Do you guys think her quality as a writer warrants her wealth?" is just the wrong question to ask. quality and wealth have no obligation to go hand in hand. stephenie meyer is not a quality writer, but she is an extremely wealthy one. michael bay is not a quality director, but he is also extremely wealthy due to his craft. they've both just made things that a lot of people were willing to pay for. LoG-Sacrament

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Pff. At the very least, it's okay. Terrible? Go take a nap.

BluRayHiDef

I'm sorry, but I honestly disagree with you. I know it's not perfect, but awful? Oh, please. What exactly is "wrong" with it? Let me guess. It's too detailed and technical? Well, that's how I intended it to be. Show me a sample of your writing.

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Next home truth - if you're going to get butthurt when people criticise your writing you clearly care more about sparing your feelings than you do about producing good work. I've published two books, neither fiction thankfully, and with both I had to go to weekly meetings and have an editor tell me how sh1t my last draft is. I would work for hours and hours on a submission and have it mailed back to me completely covered in red pen and notes, with a big line drawn through entire pages. Either get over it and get back to work, or find another hobby. SolidSnake35

I'm sorry, but I honestly disagree with you. I know it's not perfect, but awful? Oh, please. What exactly is "wrong" with it? Let me guess. It's too detailed and technical? Well, that's how I intended it to be. Show me a sample of your writing.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

 

I'm sorry, but I honestly disagree with you. I know it's not perfect, but awful? Oh, please. What exactly is "wrong" with it? Let me guess. It's too detailed and technical? Well, that's how I intended it to be. Show me a sample of your writing.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

 

You're basing your criticism on your experience in which your work was harshly edited during the publishing process. However, as you said, you write legal texts, not fiction, so your experience cannot be used to criticize my work. Furthermore, all of my college professors complemented me on my writing. So, as I said, I honestly disagree. Also, vague criticisms like "your sentence structure is poor" are meaningless without examples and explanations. Besides, I have a very good understanding of grammar, so that criticism is bollocks.

Ninja-Hippo

I made your opening paragraph better. Learn to take a few notes without engaging rage mode.

Emma Fords awoke to a seemingly desolate vessel. Her resting pod took pride of place in the centre of her living quarters, an upright enclosure more tomb than bed. Her heart rate slowly climbed, emerging from its long hibernation as life returned to her nervous system, her eyes easing themselves open to take in the dim surroundings. The pristine white quarters were host to few clues of human life; a desk and chair to the left, a closet on the right. The exit was flanked by digital storage drive containers, status lights flickering in the dark affording a subtle electronic glow to the otherwise forlorn atmosphere. After the routine scan, she raised a numb arm and softly pressed her hand against one of the twin glass panels, opening the doors with a swift whisper of motion. She emerged from her temporary coffin and stood idle for a second, waiting for her senses to return, for life to take hold. Immediately something wasn't right. For all its sparsity and minimalism, a room truly void of human sentiment, something still felt missing. Something familiar, something omnipotent; something which should have made itself known. Gerald. The ship's AI, Gerald's digital voice had become engrained in Emma's psyche, like a rising sun back home his presence wasn't just custom - it was expected - one of few consistencies in an otherwise chaotic vacuum. Emma brushed back the auburn strands of hair which covered her heavy eyes, inhaled the sharp artificial air and uttered an irritated greeting. "Gerald?", she murmured. "Gerald - where's my good morning?"

 [spoiler] Get a refund on that college education [/spoiler]

• Your edition is different, but not better. I don't consider stylistic changes to necessarily be better, but only grammatical ones, which were not necessary. Also, I don't like your style; I like mine. This rewritten paragraph is your work, not mine. 
• The changes you made in regard to Emma's physiological state (e.g. numb arm, returning senses) were well-intentioned but ultimately inappropriate...because Emma Fords is a gynoid (I was going to reveal this eventually. Even she does not know). Her name is actually a play on her serial number (Emma Fords -> M4...). 

 

• Your edition is different, but not better. I don't consider stylistic changes to necessarily be better, but only grammatical ones, which were not necessary. Also, I don't like your style; I lik mine. This rewritten paragraph is your work, not mine. 
• The changes you made in regard to Emma's physiological state (e.g. numb arm, returning senses) were well-intentioned but ultimately inappropriate...because Emma Fords is a gynoid (I was going to reveal this eventually. Even she does not know). Her name is actually a play on her serial number (Emma Fords -> M4...). 

BluRayHiDef

It doesn't matter that you had ideas to introduce later.....as far as reading the two paragraphs.....his did create the world better.

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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

 

You're basing your criticism on your experience in which your work was harshly edited during the publishing process. However, as you said, you write legal texts, not fiction, so your experience cannot be used to criticize my work. Furthermore, all of my college professors complemented me on my writing. So, as I said, I honestly disagree. Also, vague criticisms like "your sentence structure is poor" are meaningless without examples and explanations. Besides, I have a very good understanding of grammar, so that criticism is bollocks.

BluRayHiDef

I made your opening paragraph better. Learn to take a few notes without engaging rage mode.

Emma Fords awoke to a seemingly desolate vessel. Her resting pod took pride of place in the centre of her living quarters, an upright enclosure more tomb than bed. Her heart rate slowly climbed, emerging from its long hibernation as life returned to her nervous system, her eyes easing themselves open to take in the dim surroundings. The pristine white quarters were host to few clues of human life; a desk and chair to the left, a closet on the right. The exit was flanked by digital storage drive containers, status lights flickering in the dark affording a subtle electronic glow to the otherwise forlorn atmosphere. After the routine scan, she raised a numb arm and softly pressed her hand against one of the twin glass panels, opening the doors with a swift whisper of motion. She emerged from her temporary coffin and stood idle for a second, waiting for her senses to return, for life to take hold. Immediately something wasn't right. For all its sparsity and minimalism, a room truly void of human sentiment, something still felt missing. Something familiar, something omnipotent; something which should have made itself known. Gerald. The ship's AI, Gerald's digital voice had become engrained in Emma's psyche, like a rising sun back home his presence wasn't just custom - it was expected - one of few consistencies in an otherwise chaotic vacuum. Emma brushed back the auburn strands of hair which covered her heavy eyes, inhaled the sharp artificial air and uttered an irritated greeting. "Gerald?", she murmured. "Gerald - where's my good morning?"

 [spoiler] Get a refund on that college education [/spoiler]

• Your edition is different, but not better. I don't consider stylistic changes to necessarily be better, but only grammatical ones, which were not necessary. Also, I don't like your style; I lik mine. This rewritten paragraph is your work, not mine. 
• The changes you made in regard to Emma's physiological state (e.g. numb arm, returning senses) were well-intentioned but ultimately inappropriate...because Emma Fords is a gynoid (I was going to reveal this eventually. Even she does not know). Her name is actually a play on her serial number (Emma Fords -> M4...). 

 

• Your edition is different, but not better. I don't consider stylistic changes to necessarily be better, but only grammatical ones, which were not necessary. Also, I don't like your style; I lik mine. This rewritten paragraph is your work, not mine. 
• The changes you made in regard to Emma's physiological state (e.g. numb arm, returning senses) were well-intentioned but ultimately inappropriate...because Emma Fords is a gynoid (I was going to reveal this eventually. Even she does not know). Her name is actually a play on her serial number (Emma Fords -> M4...). 

BluRayHiDef

Your main problem isn't your writing, it's your attitude. You cannot take criticism and you have an overly inflated sense of your own work's quality. Do you think Jonathan Franzen takes five years to write a book because he's lazy? By the time he gets a novel that he's happy to publish he's probably written ten times that much in material all of which he's completely discarded or re-drafted or edited over and over and over again.

You cannot just write a page, spell check it and trust that your own genius is good enough to make it publishable.

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• Your edition is different, but not better. I don't consider stylistic changes to necessarily be better, but only grammatical ones, which were not necessary. Also, I don't like your style; I lik mine. This rewritten paragraph is your work, not mine. 
• The changes you made in regard to Emma's physiological state (e.g. numb arm, returning senses) were well-intentioned but ultimately inappropriate...because Emma Fords is a gynoid (I was going to reveal this eventually. Even she does not know). Her name is actually a play on her serial number (Emma Fords -> M4...). 

Ninja-Hippo

Your main problem isn't your writing, it's your attitude. You cannot take criticism and you have an overly inflated sense of your own work's quality. Do you think Jonathan Franzen takes five years to write a book because he's lazy? By the time he gets a novel that he's happy to publish he's probably written ten times that much in material all of which he's completely discarded or re-drafted or edited over and over and over again.

You cannot just write a page, spell check it and trust that your own genius is good enough to make it publishable.

Let him send it to a publisher. If it gets rejected, he'll have to improve. Or he'll say the world isn't fair and give up.SolidSnake35

I only posted a critique because he specifically asked for one. Normally I'd never criticise anyone else's work in progress because I know that my own is sh1tty and takes multiple drafts to get right.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]Let him send it to a publisher. If it gets rejected, he'll have to improve. Or he'll say the world isn't fair and give up.Ninja-Hippo

I only posted a critique because he specifically asked for one. Normally I'd never criticise anyone else's work in progress because I know that my own is sh1tty and takes multiple drafts to get right.

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]Let him send it to a publisher. If it gets rejected, he'll have to improve. Or he'll say the world isn't fair and give up.LJS9502_basic

I only posted a critique because he specifically asked for one. Normally I'd never criticise anyone else's work in progress because I know that my own is sh1tty and takes multiple drafts to get right.

I don't believe writing can be objectively criticized in regard to style, but only grammar, vocabulary, and plot structure. Whether or not something is dull to read is a matter of opinion, not fact. You may find it boring, but others may not. Some people find Tolkien's style tedious, but others do not.

I don't believe writing can be objectively criticized in regard to style, but only grammar, vocabulary, and plot structure.

BluRayHiDef

You're also confusing preference with criticism. I personally don't enjoy Tolkien's writing style, though I'd never say it was bad. I've read LOTR, the Hobbit and the Silmarilion and they're all outstanding pieces of work, though certainly not perfect. Just because I find his style tedious or dense at times doesn't mean it's BAD. There's a difference between what you prefer and what is of objectively poor quality.

I don't believe writing can be objectively criticized in regard to style, but only grammar, vocabulary, and plot structure. Whether or not something is dull to read is a matter of opinion, not fact. You may find it boring, but others may not. Some people find Tolkien's style tedious, but others do not.

BluRayHiDef

The fantasy world of the Harry Potter books was constructed very well, but their plotlines were frequently ruined by cheap "deus ex machina" moments.

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I don't believe writing can be objectively criticized in regard to style, but only grammar, vocabulary, and plot structure.

Ninja-Hippo

You're also confusing preference with criticism. I personally don't enjoy Tolkien's writing style, though I'd never say it was bad. I've read LOTR, the Hobbit and the Silmarilion and they're all outstanding pieces of work, though certainly not perfect. Just because I find his style tedious or dense at times doesn't mean it's BAD. There's a difference between what you prefer and what is of objectively poor quality.

Once again, you cannot objectively criticize a style of writing, but only the technical aspects of writing. Heck, the terms "good" and "bad" are subjective by nature. You say that even though you don't enjoy Tolkien's style, you'd never call it bad. Guess what? That's an opinion. There are people who would call it bad. You can't seem to understand that. 

Do you guys think her quality as a writer warrants her wealth? BluRayHiDef

Write us a short story, bluDavesAlt

Here's one:

The last person on Earth sat alone in a room.  There was a knock at the door.

Never read any of her books.

Pretty much all I read are baseball books, sci fi, and fantasy.

[QUOTE="DavesAlt"]Write us a short story, bluStesilaus

Here's one:

The last person on Earth sat alone in a room.  There was a knock at the door.

[QUOTE="DavesAlt"]Write us a short story, bluStesilaus

Here's one:

The last person on Earth sat alone in a room.  There was a knock at the door.

i'll chime in here (on blu's writing)...

you seem to have some good ideas and a basic grasp on the technicality of writing, but you're work comes off as pretentious, as if you're trying to mimic popular styles; it lacks its own voice.

keep at it tho; everyone starts out like that and it takes time to develop your own style

Once again, you cannot objectively criticize a style of writing, but only the technical aspects of writing. Heck, the terms "good" and "bad" are subjective by nature. You say that even though you don't enjoy Tolkien's style, you'd never call it bad. Guess what? That's an opinion. There are people who would call it bad. You can't seem to understand that. 

BluRayHiDef

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[QUOTE="DavesAlt"]Write us a short story, bluDavesAlt

Here's one:

The last person on Earth sat alone in a room.  There was a knock at the door.