Kanye West is a musical genius and excellent producer

Meh.  I find him to be sort of douchy.

True.

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JML897

People say Kanye is a douche like it has everything to do with his output of work

People say Kanye is a douche like it has everything to do with his output of work

supa_badman

What constitutes a "musical genius?" 

pressing buttons and moving sliders in a studio is NOT that hard and I don't know how rapping makes you a genius.

Quaker-w00ts

Oh, how I agree with you!

I heard he's a gay fish

Kanye dope,his verse on this is slept on

I agree with the producer part. He's a douche though, only spending 18 days so far this year with his baby mama. For shame.

People say Kanye is a douche like it has everything to do with his output of work

supa_badman

nah, i said he is a douche because he is.

nothing to do with his work output.

He really is.  But unfortunately his arrogant personality tends to overshadow it.  When it's all said and done he'll be regarded as one of the best producers ever.  

This board is mainly filled with people(white teenagers) who only appreciate Rock so I'm not even going to bother reading through the thread

There is better than Kanye.....LJS9502_basic

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People say Kanye is a douche like it has everything to do with his output of work

konvikt_17

nah, i said he is a douche because he is.

nothing to do with his work output.

I heard he's a gay fish

The_Gaming_Baby

I agree with the fishstick folk

he's a mutha****ing  GENIUS!

just ask him.

He really is.  But unfortunately his arrogant personality tends to overshadow it.  When it's all said and done he'll be regarded as one of the best producers ever.  

This board is mainly filled with people(white teenagers) who only appreciate Rock so I'm not even going to bother reading through the thread

Jagged3dge

People don't understand that arrogance and hip hop go hand in hand,its funny to hear people say he's a douche but he's really just a confident idgaf type of person

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nah, i said he is a douche because he is.

nothing to do with his work output.

VanHelsingBoA64

never claimed to be on-topic. nor do i care.

was just stating my opinion of the guy.

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He really is.  But unfortunately his arrogant personality tends to overshadow it.  When it's all said and done he'll be regarded as one of the best producers ever.  

This board is mainly filled with people(white teenagers) who only appreciate Rock so I'm not even going to bother reading through the thread

Bucked20

People don't understand that arrogance and hip hop go hand in hand,its funny to hear people say he's a douche but he's really just a confident idgaf type of person

Uhg, no. He is terrible person who uses a computer to create some decent beats and steal other people's music. That is not my definition of a musical genius.

I'll be honest and say I don't really give him much of a chance because from what I have seen of him he's a douchebag. It's funny when I saw your thread my first thought was, man that guys a douche. Then I read it and about 50 people said the same thing with the same exact word I was thinking. To each his own, you think he's a musical genius, I think he's what's wrong with people now so I stay well away from him. As for being married to the skank Kim Kardashian, wow that should make quite a baby. Douche with god complex marries skank with godess comples, both beg for the spotlight so they can show the world exactly what not to be like and viola a baby to raise...mmmmhmmmm sounds like a heaping ton of win to me.

Are people who think he is some amazing producer just not familiar with alot of music? There is WAY better production out there. God, there is an entire genre (dubstep) filled with people who absolutely **** on Kanye's producing. Add to that his laughably bad lyrics and rapping and you are just left with really underwhelming music.

Good examples of great production:

Zedd's Dead-You and I

Skrillex-Cinema

Nero-Doomsday (my current ringtone thanks to that AMAZING Borderlands 2 trailer that featured this song!)

That is off the top of my head without me digging into classic stuff from other bands like Nine Inch Nails.

Good examples of great production:

Zedd's Dead-You and I

Skrillex-Cinema

Nero-Doomsday (my current ringtone thanks to that AMAZING Borderlands 2 trailer that featured this song!)

LostProphetFLCL

LOL

I love the Kanye West Wing

Are people who think he is some amazing producer just not familiar with alot of music? There is WAY better production out there. God, there is an entire genre (dubstep) filled with people who absolutely **** on Kanye's producing. Add to that his laughably bad lyrics and rapping and you are just left with really underwhelming music.

Good examples of great production:

Zedd's Dead-You and I

Skrillex-Cinema

Nero-Doomsday (my current ringtone thanks to that AMAZING Borderlands 2 trailer that featured this song!)

 

That is off the top of my head without me digging into classic stuff from other bands like Nine Inch Nails.

LostProphetFLCL

i'm not going to say he's a douche because I don't even know the guy but he is a great producer.

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He really is.  But unfortunately his arrogant personality tends to overshadow it.  When it's all said and done he'll be regarded as one of the best producers ever.  

This board is mainly filled with people(white teenagers) who only appreciate Rock so I'm not even going to bother reading through the thread

Bucked20

People don't understand that arrogance and hip hop go hand in hand,its funny to hear people say he's a douche but he's really just a confident idgaf type of person

Yeah it's like when people hate on athletes for being extremely confident in their abilities... They don't realize you have to be like that if you want to stand a chance in the game.

On this forum it's hard to tell if someone's being serious0Hamburgher

He used to be a good artist as far as his 1st two albums go. Now he's a creative producer / feminine rapper.

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[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

He really is.  But unfortunately his arrogant personality tends to overshadow it.  When it's all said and done he'll be regarded as one of the best producers ever.  

This board is mainly filled with people(white teenagers) who only appreciate Rock so I'm not even going to bother reading through the thread

Jagged3dge

People don't understand that arrogance and hip hop go hand in hand,its funny to hear people say he's a douche but he's really just a confident idgaf type of person

Yeah it's like when people hate on athletes for being extremely confident in their abilities... They don't realize you have to be like that if you want to stand a chance in the game.

What constitutes a "musical genius?" 

pressing buttons and moving sliders in a studio is NOT that hard and I don't know how rapping makes you a genius.

Quaker-w00ts

There's far more to production than pressing buttons and moving sliders. You have to know what all of those buttons and sliders do, and how to make them work with each other to layer a piece of music into something that's cohesive, harmonious, and fluid. And that is most certainly not an easy thing to do. Also, rapping can get very complex, and it does take a very smart person to put together a creative rhyme scheme, with a great flow, using a diverse vocabulary. 

That being said, Kanye West is still far from the upper echelons of both rappers and producers. Absolutely everything he does has been done before, and better, by countless others, including people I have personally met and/or worked with. A "musical genius" he most certainly is not. 

[QUOTE="UniversalBread"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]Just like Justin Beiber and Nicki Minaj, Kayne West performs fad music that appeals mostly to teenagers and young/dumb females. Its fad music and nothing more. The jackass has even done music with Beiber.Murderstyle75

He's an asshole but there's no denying his music is excellent and he's one of the greatest producers in music, even if hip hop isn't your thing. UniversalBread

Hahahahahahahahahaha. Yes there is. And yes, hip hop totally is my thing. Mostly classic hip hop, not a whole lot of recent stuff. But yeah, even if you're super into hip hop, there certainly is room to deny that his music is excellent and/or that he's one of the "greatest producers in music". Because it's not, and neither is he.

[QUOTE="UniversalBread"]He's an asshole but there's no denying his music is excellent and he's one of the greatest producers in music, even if hip hop isn't your thing. the_bi99man

Hahahahahahahahahaha. Yes there is. And yes, hip hop totally is my thing. Mostly classic hip hop, not a whole lot of recent stuff. But yeah, even if you're super into hip hop, there certainly is room to deny that his music is excellent and/or that he's one of the "greatest producers in music". Because it's not, and neither is he.

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[QUOTE="UniversalBread"]He's an asshole but there's no denying his music is excellent and he's one of the greatest producers in music, even if hip hop isn't your thing. UniversalBread

Hahahahahahahahahaha. Yes there is. And yes, hip hop totally is my thing. Mostly classic hip hop, not a whole lot of recent stuff. But yeah, even if you're super into hip hop, there certainly is room to deny that his music is excellent and/or that he's one of the "greatest producers in music". Because it's not, and neither is he.

[QUOTE="UniversalBread"][QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

Hahahahahahahahahaha. Yes there is. And yes, hip hop totally is my thing. Mostly classic hip hop, not a whole lot of recent stuff. But yeah, even if you're super into hip hop, there certainly is room to deny that his music is excellent and/or that he's one of the "greatest producers in music". Because it's not, and neither is he.

Murderstyle75

But there's a difference between a real artist and glamorized karaoke. A lot of people can perform. It takes a lot more to write though and that's what makes an artists music so special.Murderstyle75

And really now. Do you think that people will remember Kayne West, 20 and 30 years from now? I have heard so many of these acts come and go since the late 80's. I really don't think he is any different.