Kanye West is a musical genius and excellent producer

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#152 MrPraline
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I view Kanye as a producer. He's pretty good at making beats. At rapping he's pretty bad but luckily for him most of the people in the 2013 mainstream circus are worse. Big Pun is greatness.
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#154 LostProphetFLCL
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[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] But at the same time, some arrogant athletes are great while others are not. And some are not so arrogant. Miguel Cabrera won the Triple Crown and MVP last year and didnt care about any of it. But really now. What has Kanye West done that sets him apart from a million other rappers? You mention athletes but, 60 years from now, will Kayne West be remembered in a way like Mickey Mantle? How about The Beatles? And how about Black Artists living and dead who's legends and influence continue? Jimi Hendrix? Prince? Bob Marley? WTF makes Kayne West so special?Wolf-Man2006

People often confuse arrogance for confidence.  Sure the guy has said some blunt stuff, but I don't really know him well enough to judge his personality.  Not that this thread has anything to do with that anyway.

We aren't talking about Kanye's rapping ability.  His production is why he has lasted so long in the industry.  Not to mention the guy has yet to put out a bad album.  

I do think Kanye West will be remember years from now, hell yeah.  How people can you name that have lasted 15+ years in the music industry, won 21 grammys and sold hundreds of millions of albums world wide?

And yes, Kanye has an ego and everything, but why is it he gets attacked on this site, but someone like Axl Rose gets a free pass?... Musicians can be awful people. To quote a line from Amadeus, "[Mozart] am a vulgar man! But I assure you, my music is not."

It's because no one is making topics about Axl Rose and no one is going around trying to call Axl great...

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#155 Murderstyle75
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[QUOTE="kris9031998"]ITT: Lot's of people who have not heard MBDTF all the way throughJML897
I guarantee you that the guy who compared Kanye to T-Pain hasn't heard College Dropout or Late Registration

I don't find it exactly relevant since it only really makes him a one or two trick pony. The thing that defines greatness like this thread title suggests is whether or not somebody can continue to do it without selling out to mainstream unoriginality. Its really no different than comparing Modern Warfare 3 to COD 2 or the first Modern Warfare.
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#157 WAJ
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if you like tone-deaf tanlentless noise-polluting obtuse racists then yeah, he's great (imho).

cfstar

 

EDIT: I take back other message, this is truly f*cking LOL worthy

Talentless... I don't think you know what that means

But you agree with the rest of the statement?! Great. Look, It's just my opinion, don't get so worked up about it. And yes, I do know the meaning of the word talentless. Cheers.
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#158 PsychoLemons
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#159 cfstar
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[QUOTE="cfstar"]

[QUOTE="WAJ"]

if you like tone-deaf tanlentless noise-polluting obtuse racists then yeah, he's great (imho).

WAJ

 

EDIT: I take back other message, this is truly f*cking LOL worthy

Talentless... I don't think you know what that means

But you agree with the rest of the statement?! Great. Look, It's just my opinion, don't get so worked up about it. And yes, I do know the meaning of the word talentless. Cheers.

Calling someone "talentless" is not an opinion, is either true or not. And calling Kanye talentless is not even a bad opinion, it's just wrong. I don't mind if you don't like his music, but that's silly.
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#160 JML897
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to be honest Will.I.Am is better.wwefanforlife

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#161 wwefanforlife
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I disagree Kanye is overrated I think most of his music is rubbish to be honest Will.I.Am is better.  Will.i.am comes across as a decent person on The Voice UK as well while I can imagine Kayne being a douche.

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#162 Ugalde-
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Welcome to Heartbreak and Pinnochios Story are my favorite songs right now, I love a lot of his music though. Just in to those two songs right now.
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#163 JML897
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^Welcome to Heartbreak really is a fantastic song.
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#164 bobcheeseball
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http://rapgenius.com/Kanye-west-blame-game-lyrics#note-308211 /talentless
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#165 Ugalde-
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^Welcome to Heartbreak really is a fantastic song. JML897
Yeah everything about it is great. If you never heard Pinnochio Story you should check that out. I know a lot of artists complain about fame but Kanye really makes you feel like it sucks.
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#166 Ugalde-
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[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]http://rapgenius.com/Kanye-west-blame-game-lyrics#note-308211 /talentless

Umm that song is an amazing song. You might not like it but if you cant even recognize it as a decent song than your just close minded.
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#167 bobcheeseball
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[QUOTE="Ugalde-"][QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]http://rapgenius.com/Kanye-west-blame-game-lyrics#note-308211 /talentless

Umm that song is an amazing song. You might not like it but if you cant even recognize it as a decent song than your just close minded.

my point - - - 0 <------your head
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#168 Ugalde-
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[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"][QUOTE="Ugalde-"][QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]http://rapgenius.com/Kanye-west-blame-game-lyrics#note-308211 /talentless

Umm that song is an amazing song. You might not like it but if you cant even recognize it as a decent song than your just close minded.

my point - - - 0 <------your head

You were being sarcastic?
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#169 JML897
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^He linked to that specific part to show just how detailed that single line is. It can be interpreted four different ways.
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#170 WAJ
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[QUOTE="WAJ"][QUOTE="cfstar"]

 

EDIT: I take back other message, this is truly f*cking LOL worthy

Talentless... I don't think you know what that means

cfstar
But you agree with the rest of the statement?! Great. Look, It's just my opinion, don't get so worked up about it. And yes, I do know the meaning of the word talentless. Cheers.

Calling someone "talentless" is not an opinion, is either true or not. And calling Kanye talentless is not even a bad opinion, it's just wrong. I don't mind if you don't like his music, but that's silly.

As I said IMHO he is talentless (it's an opinion). Read to the end of my original post. Cheers.
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#171 Ugalde-
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^He linked to that specific part to show just how detailed that single line is. It can be interpreted four different ways. JML897
Got ya. I definitely took that a different way lol.