Kanye West is a musical genius and excellent producer

I think he'll go down as a legend.UniversalBread

Obviously no one can predict the future, but I'll just go ahead and throw out what I think will happen.

By the time Kanye West is gone and forgotten, people will still be talking about Dr. Dre, and eagerly awaiting Detox (which is TOTALLY COMING.... some day).

[QUOTE="UniversalBread"]I think he'll go down as a legend.the_bi99man

Obviously no one can predict the future, but I'll just go ahead and throw out what I think will happen.

By the time Kanye West is gone and forgotten, people will still be talking about Dr. Dre, and eagerly awaiting Detox (which is TOTALLY COMING.... some day).

[QUOTE="UniversalBread"]I think he'll go down as a legend.the_bi99man

Obviously no one can predict the future, but I'll just go ahead and throw out what I think will happen.

By the time Kanye West is gone and forgotten, people will still be talking about Dr. Dre, and eagerly awaiting Detox (which is TOTALLY COMING.... some day).

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[QUOTE="UniversalBread"]I think he'll go down as a legend.UniversalBread

Obviously no one can predict the future, but I'll just go ahead and throw out what I think will happen.

By the time Kanye West is gone and forgotten, people will still be talking about Dr. Dre, and eagerly awaiting Detox (which is TOTALLY COMING.... some day).

Hahahaha. Detox will drop after Dre is dead. And it will totally have Snoop Dogg guest features. Right alongside Tupac, Biggie, Elvis and John Lennon. Just because.

[QUOTE="UniversalBread"][QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

Obviously no one can predict the future, but I'll just go ahead and throw out what I think will happen.

By the time Kanye West is gone and forgotten, people will still be talking about Dr. Dre, and eagerly awaiting Detox (which is TOTALLY COMING.... some day).

the_bi99man

Hahahaha. Detox will drop after Dre is dead. And it will totally have Snoop Dogg guest features. Right alongside Tupac, Biggie, Elvis and John Lennon. Just because.

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[QUOTE="UniversalBread"] Well if it ever does drop there'd better some Snoop Dogg featured, none of that Snoop Lion rastafarian political shit either. MrPraline

Hahahaha. Detox will drop after Dre is dead. And it will totally have Snoop Dogg guest features. Right alongside Tupac, Biggie, Elvis and John Lennon. Just because.

The OP is actually Kanye West.

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Hahahaha. Detox will drop after Dre is dead. And it will totally have Snoop Dogg guest features. Right alongside Tupac, Biggie, Elvis and John Lennon. Just because.

UniversalBread

Detox doesn't exist.. its never gonna happen.

He is an excellent producer.. abit weird styles sometimes I mean listen to Pusha T`s newest track its produced by Kanye and Don Cannon.. very weird beat.

I'll give you another example of an excellent  producer

All songs on "Wolf" were produced by himself

[QUOTE="UniversalBread"][QUOTE="MrPraline"] lol. Have no hope left for Detox. Never coming out, plus the "official" singles have been pretty bad. Except for the lovely Holly Brook/Skylar Grey's hook on I Need A Doctor of course.MrPraline

That would be sweet. Royce can write some damn fine verses. 

What I've heard is that Detox has actually been "finished" multiple times, and then Dre just sits on it for too long before releasing it, eventually "falls out of love" with it, and scraps the whole thing, like Nathan Explosion destroying Dethklok albums because they're not brutal enough. If/when it does finally drop, it probably will have very few, if any, of the singles that have been released over the years.

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]But there's a difference between a real artist and glamorized karaoke. A lot of people can perform. It takes a lot more to write though and that's what makes an artists music so special.UniversalBread

And really now. Do you think that people will remember Kayne West, 20 and 30 years from now? I have heard so many of these acts come and go since the late 80's. I really don't think he is any different.

Its not much different than Justin Beiber or Nicki Minaj.

While some of MJ's songs were written for him, most of his hits he wrote himself including Billy Jean, Beat it, Smooth Criminal, etc, etc, etc.

Michael also appealed to many different demographics and people of all ages and walks of life.

Comparing Kayne West to Michael Jackson is nothing short of absurd.

Now every 5 or so years, I have this very same discussion about a similar artist. And then just like that, the hype train derails and they fade away.

Just like Justin Beiber and Nicki Minaj, Kayne West performs fad music that appeals mostly to teenagers and young/dumb females. Its fad music and nothing more. The jackass has even done music with Beiber.Murderstyle75

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]Just like Justin Beiber and Nicki Minaj, Kayne West performs fad music that appeals mostly to teenagers and young/dumb females. Its fad music and nothing more. The jackass has even done music with Beiber.UniversalBread

[QUOTE="UniversalBread"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]Just like Justin Beiber and Nicki Minaj, Kayne West performs fad music that appeals mostly to teenagers and young/dumb females. Its fad music and nothing more. The jackass has even done music with Beiber.Murderstyle75

He is a talentless hack. Same **** sound as T Pain and the rest of the hacks. Just something for the MTV generation just like every previous MTV generation that faded away. There is one thing that makes him different though. He cuts down on ebonics in his lyrics, so that even white suburban people can understand him. And that shit he did to Taylor Swift was BS. Just a lame publicity stunt to get people to talk about him.Murderstyle75

He is a talentless hack. Same **** sound as T Pain and the rest of the hacks. Just something for the MTV generation just like every previous MTV generation that faded away. There is one thing that makes him different though. He cuts down on ebonics in his lyrics, so that even white suburban people can understand him. And that shit he did to Taylor Swift was BS. Just a lame publicity stunt to get people to talk about him. Must have felt good though being black and being called a Jackass by the first black president.Murderstyle75

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People don't understand that arrogance and hip hop go hand in hand,its funny to hear people say he's a douche but he's really just a confident idgaf type of person

Murderstyle75

Yeah it's like when people hate on athletes for being extremely confident in their abilities... They don't realize you have to be like that if you want to stand a chance in the game.

People often confuse arrogance for confidence.  Sure the guy has said some blunt stuff, but I don't really know him well enough to judge his personality.  Not that this thread has anything to do with that anyway.

We aren't talking about Kanye's rapping ability.  His production is why he has lasted so long in the industry.  Not to mention the guy has yet to put out a bad album.  

I do think Kanye West will be remember years from now, hell yeah.  How people can you name that have lasted 15+ years in the music industry, won 21 grammys and sold hundreds of millions of albums world wide?

He is a talentless hack. Same **** sound as T Pain and the rest of the hacks. Just something for the MTV generation just like every previous MTV generation that faded away. There is one thing that makes him different though. He cuts down on ebonics in his lyrics, so that even white suburban people can understand him. And that shit he did to Taylor Swift was BS. Just a lame publicity stunt to get people to talk about him. Must have felt good though being black and being called a Jackass by the first black president.Murderstyle75

Pure ignorance :lol:

We get it you don't like his music.  I don't like the Beatles but I can still respect their work.

Saying Kanye West won't be remembered in the future is just wishful thinking from those who don't like him. He's not some flash in the pan, he's been hugely popular for a decade now. Those types of artists don't get forgotten very easilyJML897

I agree. 

he needs a lesson in humility though.

[QUOTE="JML897"]Saying Kanye West won't be remembered in the future is just wishful thinking from those who don't like him. He's not some flash in the pan, he's been hugely popular for a decade now. Those types of artists don't get forgotten very easilyMurderstyle75

I was listening to his VH1 Storytellers album a week ago, I agree with OP.

[QUOTE="JML897"]Saying Kanye West won't be remembered in the future is just wishful thinking from those who don't like him. He's not some flash in the pan, he's been hugely popular for a decade now. Those types of artists don't get forgotten very easilyMurderstyle75

I hear old Kayne songs played on the radio all the time here...

And I doubt you even realize it, but a lot of commercials use Kanye's older tracks.

Lets get one thing clear here - Lil B is the rawest rapper of all time and his song "Keith Sweat" is due to become a classic in the future. Pretty Young Thug is the best mixtape of 2013.

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Yeah it's like when people hate on athletes for being extremely confident in their abilities... They don't realize you have to be like that if you want to stand a chance in the game.

Jagged3dge

People often confuse arrogance for confidence.  Sure the guy has said some blunt stuff, but I don't really know him well enough to judge his personality.  Not that this thread has anything to do with that anyway.

We aren't talking about Kanye's rapping ability.  His production is why he has lasted so long in the industry.  Not to mention the guy has yet to put out a bad album.  

I do think Kanye West will be remember years from now, hell yeah.  How people can you name that have lasted 15+ years in the music industry, won 21 grammys and sold hundreds of millions of albums world wide?

As a rapper, he's ok.. He relies on emotion and pouring his guts out rather than clever wordplay (at least in his solo albums.. His guest verses are atrocious). And yes, Kanye has an ego and everything, but why is it he gets attacked on this site, but someone like Axl Rose gets a free pass?... Musicians can be awful people. To quote a line from Amadeus, "[Mozart] am a vulgar man! But I assure you, my music is not."

if you like tone-deaf tanlentless noise-polluting obtuse racists then yeah, he's great (imho).

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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] But at the same time, some arrogant athletes are great while others are not. And some are not so arrogant. Miguel Cabrera won the Triple Crown and MVP last year and didnt care about any of it. But really now. What has Kanye West done that sets him apart from a million other rappers? You mention athletes but, 60 years from now, will Kayne West be remembered in a way like Mickey Mantle? How about The Beatles? And how about Black Artists living and dead who's legends and influence continue? Jimi Hendrix? Prince? Bob Marley? WTF makes Kayne West so special?Wolf-Man2006

People often confuse arrogance for confidence.  Sure the guy has said some blunt stuff, but I don't really know him well enough to judge his personality.  Not that this thread has anything to do with that anyway.

We aren't talking about Kanye's rapping ability.  His production is why he has lasted so long in the industry.  Not to mention the guy has yet to put out a bad album.  

I do think Kanye West will be remember years from now, hell yeah.  How people can you name that have lasted 15+ years in the music industry, won 21 grammys and sold hundreds of millions of albums world wide?

As a rapper, he's ok.. He relies on emotion and pouring his guts out rather than clever wordplay (at least in his solo albums.. His guest verses are atrocious). And yes, Kanye has an ego and everything, but why is it he gets attacked on this site, but someone like Axl Rose gets a free pass?... Musicians can be awful people. To quote a line from Amadeus, "[Mozart] am a vulgar man! But I assure you, my music is not."

That's a damn lie

if you like tone-deaf tanlentless noise-polluting obtuse racists then yeah, he's great (imho).

WAJ

EDIT: I take back other message, this is truly f*cking LOL worthy

Talentless... I don't think you know what that means

There is no denying that Kanye West is a great artist. He continually puts out albums that not only sell, but have messages reflecting his personal life and the human experience.

Power

This dude is a musical genius! 4myAmuzumament

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[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

People often confuse arrogance for confidence.  Sure the guy has said some blunt stuff, but I don't really know him well enough to judge his personality.  Not that this thread has anything to do with that anyway.

We aren't talking about Kanye's rapping ability.  His production is why he has lasted so long in the industry.  Not to mention the guy has yet to put out a bad album.  

I do think Kanye West will be remember years from now, hell yeah.  How people can you name that have lasted 15+ years in the music industry, won 21 grammys and sold hundreds of millions of albums world wide?

Bucked20

As a rapper, he's ok.. He relies on emotion and pouring his guts out rather than clever wordplay (at least in his solo albums.. His guest verses are atrocious). And yes, Kanye has an ego and everything, but why is it he gets attacked on this site, but someone like Axl Rose gets a free pass?... Musicians can be awful people. To quote a line from Amadeus, "[Mozart] am a vulgar man! But I assure you, my music is not."

That's a damn lie

Sorry, he sucks as an guest rapper.. His verse on E.T is horrible IMO..

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As a rapper, he's ok.. He relies on emotion and pouring his guts out rather than clever wordplay (at least in his solo albums.. His guest verses are atrocious). And yes, Kanye has an ego and everything, but why is it he gets attacked on this site, but someone like Axl Rose gets a free pass?... Musicians can be awful people. To quote a line from Amadeus, "[Mozart] am a vulgar man! But I assure you, my music is not."

Wolf-Man2006

That's a damn lie

Sorry, he sucks as an guest rapper.. His verse on E.T is horrible IMO..

Just googled that song and its a damn Katy Perry song of course its gonna suck

Plus he has many more good features

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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] But at the same time, some arrogant athletes are great while others are not. And some are not so arrogant. Miguel Cabrera won the Triple Crown and MVP last year and didnt care about any of it. But really now. What has Kanye West done that sets him apart from a million other rappers? You mention athletes but, 60 years from now, will Kayne West be remembered in a way like Mickey Mantle? How about The Beatles? And how about Black Artists living and dead who's legends and influence continue? Jimi Hendrix? Prince? Bob Marley? WTF makes Kayne West so special?Wolf-Man2006

People often confuse arrogance for confidence.  Sure the guy has said some blunt stuff, but I don't really know him well enough to judge his personality.  Not that this thread has anything to do with that anyway.

We aren't talking about Kanye's rapping ability.  His production is why he has lasted so long in the industry.  Not to mention the guy has yet to put out a bad album.  

I do think Kanye West will be remember years from now, hell yeah.  How people can you name that have lasted 15+ years in the music industry, won 21 grammys and sold hundreds of millions of albums world wide?

As a rapper, he's ok.. He relies on emotion and pouring his guts out rather than clever wordplay (at least in his solo albums.. His guest verses are atrocious). And yes, Kanye has an ego and everything, but why is it he gets attacked on this site, but someone like Axl Rose gets a free pass?... Musicians can be awful people. To quote a line from Amadeus, "[Mozart] am a vulgar man! But I assure you, my music is not."

Have you ever listened to his Graduation album?  He uses very clever wordplay in that album.  Check out Homecoming or Can't Tell Me Nothing (imo his best "rap" song)

I would agree that in 808s and My Beautiful Dark he definitely realies more on having emotion in his music, which I don't really see how that negatively impacts your view of his rapping ability but okay.  Seems like you've own checked out his most recent work.

His guest verses usually aren't all that great, I can agree with that.  I think people get him on their songs more for his great stature at this point.

Can't Tell Me Nothing (imo his best "rap" song)Jagged3dge

Definitely a decent producer. Kid Cudi is my favorite rapper and I do lend some credit to Kanye for producing alot of Cudi's songs. As for Kanye's own work, it's not the best. He has a handful of good songs but for the most part I think he's kinda overrated.

ITT: Lot's of people who have not heard MBDTF all the way throughkris9031998