Man fights to fly the confederate flag in his dorm.

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#1 junglist101
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A student at University of South Carolina Beaufort has been ordered to remove a confederate flag from his dorm room. There's a slight twist in this story: the student is African American.

Any thoughts on why he would take up this fight. I got nothin'.

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-709533?npt=NP1

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#2 DerpyMcDerp
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I think he's trying to get a lawsuit going so he can make loadsamoney.

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#3 Pirate700
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That's idiotic. There's no reason why he shouldn't be allowe to have it in his room.

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#4 StrifeDelivery
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That's idiotic. There's no reason why he shouldn't be allowe to have it in his room.

Pirate700

Pretty much going to agree with Pirate on this one.

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#5 DJ-Lafleur
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If it's not bothering anyone else in the dorm, then I see no issue.

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#6 Palantas
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

That's idiotic. There's no reason why he shouldn't be allowe to have it in his room.

StrifeDelivery

Pretty much going to agree with Pirate on this one.

Wrong. Students must be prevented from expressing opinions that are wrong-think. This young man's corruptive influence should be removed from the student body. He should besent to a camp where he can be taught proper ideas that harmonious with those approved by the state.

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#7 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="StrifeDelivery"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

That's idiotic. There's no reason why he shouldn't be allowe to have it in his room.

Palantas

Pretty much going to agree with Pirate on this one.

Wrong. Students must be prevented from expressing opinions that are wrong-think. This young man's corruptive influence should be removed from the student body. He should besent to a camp where he can be taught proper ideas that harmonious with those approved by the state.

What in the world are you going on about? :?

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#8 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Is it a public or private university?

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#9 JML897
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Is it a public or private university?

sonicare

Sounds like it's public

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#10 Wasdie  Moderator
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Tricky. However if it is a public school you have the whole issue of taxpayer money going to subsidize his housing and school. There is a lot of elements at play here.

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#12 foxhound_fox
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Reminds me of the episode of Bulls*** where the black guy from the south thought he was a confederate soldier.
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#13 needled24-7
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that's stupid. it's his own dorm room that he (or his parents) pays for. if he was hanging it on the outside of the door for everyone walking down the hall to see, i could understand if the school didn't want him to have it up. but the only people seeing it are people coming inside so i really don't see a problem and i can't imagine a reasonable justification for the school not allowing it.

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#14 PunkAntiHero
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He should be able to fly whatever flag he wants in his dorm room.
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#15 wis3boi
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i say let him hang it. This isnt a swastika or anything.

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#16 Fightingfan
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i say let him hang it. This isnt a swastika or anything.

wis3boi

Why can't I put up the swastikas? The swastika doesn't represent Hitler or the third Reich.

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#17 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

i say let him hang it. This isnt a swastika or anything.

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Why can't I put up the swastika? The swastika doesn't represent Hitler or the third Reich.

the flag of the third reich has it on it and it represents a regime that slaughtered over 6 million innocent people, it's totally different than the confederate flag
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#18 DeX2010
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

i say let him hang it. This isnt a swastika or anything.

Fightingfan

Why can't I put up the swastikas? The swastika doesn't represent Hitler or the third Reich.

It depends. The Nazi Swastika is a hate symbol and represents Hitler and the Nazi Party. The true Hindu swastika is a symbol of peace. The difference in the two is that the Nazi Swastika is turned on its side by 45 degrees.

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#19 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

i say let him hang it. This isnt a swastika or anything.

wis3boi

Why can't I put up the swastika? The swastika doesn't represent Hitler or the third Reich.

the flag of the third reich has it on it and it represents a regime that slaughtered over 6 million innocent people, it's totally different than the confederate flag

Christianity has been slaughtering people for thousands of years and I bet it's ok for someone to put up Jesus? But I can't put up a swastika which is a Mideastern religious simple as well.

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#20 OfficerLeach_
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whats funny is the confederate flag that we have today and is also what this student has is not the same one that the pro-slavery people used back in the day...it dont represent anything bad and you can really just apply your own meaning to it most people just use it to show that they are "country" or from the south...when I was in school a black kid had the same thing but painted on the back window of his truck

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#21 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

i say let him hang it. This isnt a swastika or anything.

DeX2010

Why can't I put up the swastikas? The swastika doesn't represent Hitler or the third Reich.

It depends. The Nazi Swastika is a hate symbol and represents Hitler and the Nazi Party. The true Hindu swastika is a symbol of peace. The difference in the two is that the Nazi Swastika is turned on its side by 45 degrees.

There are many variants of the swastika, the Aztec have one, the Egyptions and it's even found in the Qur'an.
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"] There are many variants of the swastika, the Aztec have one, the Egyptions and it's even found in the Qur'an.

And yet Hitler ruined it for all of us. Just like how I can't name my child what was a perfectly good name (Adolf)
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#23 DeX2010
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[QUOTE="DeX2010"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"] Why can't I put up the swastikas? The swastika doesn't represent Hitler or the third Reich.

Fightingfan

It depends. The Nazi Swastika is a hate symbol and represents Hitler and the Nazi Party. The true Hindu swastika is a symbol of peace. The difference in the two is that the Nazi Swastika is turned on its side by 45 degrees.

There are many variants of the swastika, the Aztec have one, the Egyptions and it's even found in the Qur'an.

Yes, but in today's world I think it is most prevalent in either History Books(Nazi Version) and its uses in Hinduism.
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#24 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="DeX2010"]

It depends. The Nazi Swastika is a hate symbol and represents Hitler and the Nazi Party. The true Hindu swastika is a symbol of peace. The difference in the two is that the Nazi Swastika is turned on its side by 45 degrees.

DeX2010

There are many variants of the swastika, the Aztec have one, the Egyptions and it's even found in the Qur'an.

Yes, but in today's world I think it is most prevalent in either History Books(Nazi Version) and its uses in Hinduism.

I agree with you totally don't get me wrong, it's just freedom of speech shouldn't be limited just because "it hurts someones feelings' if someone can hang up the British flag I want the ability to hang up the USSR flag without a 2nd thought.

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[QUOTE="DeX2010"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"] There are many variants of the swastika, the Aztec have one, the Egyptions and it's even found in the Qur'an. Fightingfan

Yes, but in today's world I think it is most prevalent in either History Books(Nazi Version) and its uses in Hinduism.

I agree with you totally don't get me wrong, it's just freedom of speech shouldn't be limited just because "it hurts someones feelings' if someone can hang up the British flag I want the ability to hang up the USSR flag without a 2nd thought.

it's all context. If you lived in the USSR or probably even russia today, you'd wouldnt be caught flying an American flag around
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If it makes him happy, let him keep the flag.

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#27 agpickle
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I've had some kids at my school fly a large confederate flag from their pickup before, its annoying, but I don't see a huge problem with it. In this case, it shouldnt even be a problem.

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#28 Pirate700
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i say let him hang it. This isnt a swastika or anything.

wis3boi

Honestly, I don't even care if someone had that in their own personal room. It's their room. They can have what they want. Not allowing the confederate flag just shows the ignorance of the school.

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#29 parkurtommo
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that is one smart confederate

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#30 Pirate700
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I've had some kids at my school fly a large confederate flag from their pickup before, its annoying, but I don't see a huge problem with it. In this case, it shouldnt even be a problem.

agpickle

Why is it annoying?

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#31 sAndroid17
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anyone should be able to hang any flag they want in their dorm, regardless of its meaning/supposed meaning

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#32 LJS9502_basic
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Not his property so their rules....
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am I the only one who finds it hilarious ? An African American with a Confederate Flag.
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"] There are many variants of the swastika, the Aztec have one, the Egyptions and it's even found in the Qur'an. Engrish_Major
And yet Hitler ruined it for all of us. Just like how I can't name my child what was a perfectly good name (Adolf)

What are you talking about, I named all three of my sons Adolf.

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#36 SUD123456
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I too don't see what the controversy is all about.

The dorm is owned by the school, not the student.

The school can set whatever rules they want. Abide by them or leave. There's no real argument here.

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#37 HFkami
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americans need regime change

the condi flag is nothing racist it symbols more the southern people of which are many blacks

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#38 mrbojangles25
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lol, my neighbor in the dorms freshman year came over and burned my roommates confederate flag. He flipped out, like got really emotional. Then the fire alarm went off for the first time

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#39 AveryMarx
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Back to the page before, I remember reading somewhere that the Swastika is an ancient Germanic rune for power? Is this right?

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#40 ad1x2
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am I the only one who finds it hilarious ? An African American with a Confederate Flag. Nonstop-Madness

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#41 branketra
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Is there a cult that's interested in the Confederacy's revival? Besides the KKK and all that. If there isn't anything major like what I mentioned, it's no big deal. Bit odd, though.

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#42 CaveJohnson1
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It should be removed on the grounds that every white person is going to think he's a weirdo and every black person is going to think he's a self hating racist.

Either way I doubt he has any freinds now.

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#43 dkdk999
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I get what he's saying. And in some ways I think the south might have been better than the north. However why would he want to have it ? Most people don't understand what he means by it so it's just going to confuse people.
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#44 TonyDanzaFan
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I find it absurd that he isnt allowed to hang it. That flag does not indicate the support of bigotry and racism. It supports the idea of states rights. Come down to south carolina and you will see how many confederate flags are on shirts, license plates, walls etc. It is not a big deal.
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#45 TonyDanzaFan
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Is it a public or private university?

sonicare

Public. It is a crappy branch of the University of South Carolina Columbia. Its not a very good school. I know quite a few really dumb people who go there.

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Let him hang it.
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#47 MgamerBD
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I would hang up a Union flag right next door for the lulz.
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#48 Ace6301
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It's just a flag I don't see what's the issue.
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#49 thoraxe42
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Maybe the guy likes Lynyrd Skynyrd, I don't know...

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#50 coolbeans90
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I would hang up a Union flag right next door for the lulz.MgamerBD

Additionally, hang a poster of General Sherman.