**** Marriage Debate, for or against?

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]I see no reason not to extend the same rights to homosexuals, and it's beyond me how people have got it into their heads that it'll somehow directly affect them.harashawn

Yeah, in the same sense that a crippled person is allowed to use the stairs. There's nothing stopping them.

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]I am agree. :PTeenaged

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[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]

no u are taperoll

Blood-Scribe

its u

ur the taperoll

Is it good?

I see no reason not to extend the same rights to homosexuals, and it's beyond me how people have got it into their heads that it'll somehow directly affect them.Blood-Scribe

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Taperoll? What this is?Teenaged

its u

ur the taperoll

Is it good?

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i liek

Yeah, in the same sense that a crippled person is allowed to use the stairs. There's nothing stopping them.

Blood-Scribe

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]

Yeah, in the same sense that a crippled person is allowed to use the stairs. There's nothing stopping them.

harashawn

But since the only sollution that satisfies them is marriage and you are in no way affected by it then where's the problem?

[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]

its u

ur the taperoll

Blood-Scribe

Is it good?

it tastes like fish

i liek

But since the only sollution that satisfies them is marriage and you are in no way affected by it then where's the problem?

Teenaged

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]

Yeah, in the same sense that a crippled person is allowed to use the stairs. There's nothing stopping them.

harashawn

But they do need to marry in order to get the 1,138 statutory provisions that are entailed with the legal status of marriage. Extending the rights of marriage onto homosexual couples would be in the same vein as adding elevators and service ramps for crippled people.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

But since the only sollution that satisfies them is marriage and you are in no way affected by it then where's the problem?

harashawn

[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]

But since the only sollution that satisfies them is marriage and you are in no way affected by it then where's the problem?

Teenaged

We don't even know about the conditions in which marriage first came about as a tradition in society. Nobody has any authoritative say as to what the original parameters for marriage were, or if they were even all that specific to begin with.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="harashawn"] It's not up to us to change the meaning of marriage. Blood-Scribe

We don't even know about the conditions in which marriage first came about as a tradition in society. Nobody has any authoritative say as to what the original parameters for marriage were, or if they were even all that specific to begin with.

Or if those parameters were the right ones. As humanity evolves many things need to be redifined

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

But since the only sollution that satisfies them is marriage and you are in no way affected by it then where's the problem?

harashawn

"We" made it.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="mindstorm"] Nope, Christianity is only 2000 years old. Marriage is a lot older as well as God defining what marriage is.mindstorm

[QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

The people against Gay Marriage for biblical reasons should also be against Divorce for the same reasons.

:)

Teenaged

Wow christianity seems messed up at spots as divorce is not even a sin in Islam.:?

[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"]Divorce is allowed in religion.:|Thinker_reborn

Wow christianity seems messed up at spots as divorce is not even a sin in Islam.:?

One definite area where Islam owns Christianity :P.

I'm an agnostic, by the way ;).

[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]

Yeah, in the same sense that a crippled person is allowed to use the stairs. There's nothing stopping them.

Blood-Scribe

But they do need to marry in order to get the 1,138 statutory provisions that are entailed with the legal status of marriage. Extending the rights of marriage onto homosexual couples would be in the same vein as adding elevators and service ramps for crippled people.

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="harashawn"] There are elevators and ramps so a cripple can get around. Homosexuals don't need to marry each other to get to a different floor. LikeHaterade

But they do need to marry in order to get the 1,138 statutory provisions that are entailed with the legal status of marriage. Extending the rights of marriage onto homosexual couples would be in the same vein as adding elevators and service ramps for crippled people.

Civil Unions aren't recognized by the federal government, and states are not obliged to recognize them, so that does not provide them with a favorable legal status. If that wasn't a problem, then this would be a different issue altogether and I wouldn't really care all that much about it.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"]Divorce is allowed in religion.:|Thinker_reborn

Marriage is monogamous relationship between a man and a woman. Marriage is a religious ceremony. A civil union is a marriage only supported by the government but still I do not agree with allowing civil unions between homosexuals. *flame shield*mindstorm

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="_glatisant_"] And your reasoning for this is? super_mario_128

Here, being gay does not make babies. Today that may be a different story. But that is probably the reason the christians and other religions, even buddhism, do not allow it.

[QUOTE="morpheusnj"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Great post. :)

It seems to me that heterosexuals are doing a fine job of "destroying" marriage by themselves.

I just find it odd how my fellow Christians get more worked up over Gay Marriage (which Jesus never discussed) than Divorce (which Jesus spoke multiple times about).

It's the "Culture War" nonsense

LosDaddie

Post the Bible verses then.

Still waiting on those Bible verses, morpheusnj :)

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="morpheusnj"] actually the bible says a lot about gay marriage. I forget which books talk about it but look it up on google if you want the verses.LosDaddie

Post the Bible verses then.

Still waiting on those Bible verses, morpheusnj :)

That or he'll give us Lev 18:22, 20:13, Deut 23:17, Romans 1:26-27, Corinthians 6:9-10, and Timothy 1:9-10. And then he'll try to apply that to Genesis. XD

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Post the Bible verses then.

Lockedge

Still waiting on those Bible verses, morpheusnj :)

That or he'll give us Lev 18:22, 20:13, Deut 23:17, Romans 1:26-27, Corinthians 6:9-10, and Timothy 1:9-10. And then he'll try to apply that to Genesis. XD

I just want to see him try on his own.

Here, being gay does not make babies. Today that may be a different story. But that is probably the reason the christians and other religions, even buddhism, do not allow it.dmc333

[QUOTE="dmc333"]Here, being gay does not make babies. Today that may be a different story. But that is probably the reason the christians and other religions, even buddhism, do not allow it.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="dmc333"]Here, being gay does not make babies. Today that may be a different story. But that is probably the reason the christians and other religions, even buddhism, do not allow it.Genetic_Code

May I ask, practically where's the harm in this, or in sex that is not intended for having babies (other that the fact that it obviously does not contribute to the continuation of the species)?Teenaged

I dont care if two guys or girls want to get married, it dosnt effect my life in anyway.

theres pretty much no logical reason to be against it. if someone is against it they will probably say "its against my religion" and thats it. no other excuse

and the sanctity of marrige? pffft oh please 50% of marriges in the US end in divorce so what makes it sacred? plus we have tv shows with people marrying complete strangers for money.

Here, being gay does not make babies. dmc333

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]May I ask, practically where's the harm in this, or in sex that is not intended for having babies (other that the fact that it obviously does not contribute to the continuation of the species)?Genetic_Code

Marriage should be defined only by the government. The church should not tell people what they can and cannot do with their lives.hoola

Fixed.

Marriage should be defined only by the church. The government should not tell people what they can and cannot do with their lives.hoola

Ok, lets settle two things

Masturbation: The bible never says that you should not do it, its only says you should not lust towards others (opposite sex, same sex)

gay marriage: Well technically this is the same thing as marriage, gay means happy, so I am for happy merry marriages. Homosexual marriage NO, because you can't have same sex between a man and a woman by definition.

All you people who want homsexuals to marry, you realise that your just going by your opinion right, nothing on facts, your just being gullible listening to the liberal media, and having them tell you whats ok. Movies like broke-back mountiain are designed for homosexual propaganda which paints a picture that is not true, the truth is homosexuals can't commit, a lot of them have had like 500 partners.

The government should not even have control over marriage because it is gods established rule, George Washington did not get married by the government.

marriage license

The problem with marriage license is you can divorce, guess what that does to the kid? Under god there is no way you can divorce under the new testement. you can separate, but you can't just kick one out, it is a sin. When you get marriage license, you give your children to the state, doesnt that sound creepy?

And on the thing about sex, sex is a gift from god, once your marriage, you can have sex all you want, sex is not just for reproducing alone, otherwise you wouldnt even have the urge as often as you do. Otherwise god would of just made us to only have the urge like once in a great while like other creatures, the bible even has many verses pertaining to sex.

Clear?