Marriage should be defined only by the church. The government should not tell people what they can and cannot do with their lives.hoolaAnd the church shouldn't tell people what they can and cannot do with their lives, but, I understand, it's your belief.
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Remind me again where is the factual information that supports the Bible....?Ok, lets settle two things
Masturbation: The bible never says that you should not do it, its only says you should not lust towards others (opposite sex, same sex)
gay marriage: Well technically this is the same thing as marriage, gay means happy, so I am for happy merry marriages. Homosexual marriage NO, because you can't have same sex between a man and a woman by definition.
All you people who want homsexuals to marry, you realise that your just going by your opinion right, nothing on facts, your just being gullible listening to the liberal media, and having them tell you whats ok. Movies like broke-back mountiain are designed for homosexual propaganda which paints a picture that is not true, the truth is homosexuals can't commit, a lot of them have had like 500 partners.
The government should not even have control over marriage because it is gods established rule, George Washington did not get married by the government.
marriage license
The problem with marriage license is you can divorce, guess what that does to the kid? Under god there is no way you can divorce under the new testement. you can separate, but you can't just kick one out, it is a sin. When you get marriage license, you give your children to the state, doesnt that sound creepy?
And on the thing about sex, sex is a gift from god, once your marriage, you can have sex all you want, sex is not just for reproducing alone, otherwise you wouldnt even have the urge as often as you do. Otherwise god would of just made us to only have the urge like once in a great while like other creatures, the bible even has many verses pertaining to sex.
Clear?
SegaGenesisfan
And again remind me where in all of this post can we discern a clear and comprehensive argument...?
The definition of sex does not refer to gender. And you're going by your opinion. And a uninformed one at that, if you think all homosexual have multiple partners. The whole point of asking for marriage rights is so that homosexuals can legalise their bond with the person they love. Homosexuals who want to marry are generally not the stereotypical promiscuous type. The amount of religion you place on this makes it obvious that you are a complete hypocrite to the 'propaganda' argument. You, like many others, have been influence by the propaganda of the church. Its no better than any liberal propoganda the rest of us might have been subject to.Ok, lets settle two things
Masturbation: The bible never says that you should not do it, its only says you should not lust towards others (opposite sex, same sex)
gay marriage: Well technically this is the same thing as marriage, gay means happy, so I am for happy merry marriages. Homosexual marriage NO, because you can't have same sex between a man and a woman by definition.
All you people who want homsexuals to marry, you realise that your just going by your opinion right, nothing on facts, your just being gullible listening to the liberal media, and having them tell you whats ok. Movies like broke-back mountiain are designed for homosexual propaganda which paints a picture that is not true, the truth is homosexuals can't commit, a lot of them have had like 500 partners.
The government should not even have control over marriage because it is gods established rule, George Washington did not get married by the government.
marriage license
The problem with marriage license is you can divorce, guess what that does to the kid? Under god there is no way you can divorce under the new testement. you can separate, but you can't just kick one out, it is a sin. When you get marriage license, you give your children to the state, doesnt that sound creepy?
And on the thing about sex, sex is a gift from god, once your marriage, you can have sex all you want, sex is not just for reproducing alone, otherwise you wouldnt even have the urge as often as you do. Otherwise god would of just made us to only have the urge like once in a great while like other creatures, the bible even has many verses pertaining to sex.
Clear?
SegaGenesisfan
Sometimes people don't make sense. Besides maybe your source of information doesn't help you become reliable. ;)First of all, if you are gonna refute somethine you dont start off by admitting you literally can't comprehend what I just said, that is your problem.
guess how aids got transmitted throughout the world? Homosexuals did it, first it was a monkey, then people started having adulterous sex, and it spread, otherwise we wouldnt even have HIV.
It is a known fact that christians started marriage, people just want to pervert its meaning, which is immoral. God made marriage
SegaGenesisfan
What I suggest is that you google the word AIDS, get your facts straight and then have a more ...how can I say it... objective opinion about it and not one that suits you. Ignorance won't enforce your arguments. On the contrary.
Marriage, my dear user, started THOUSANDS OF YEARS before Christianity was created. Again here your facts are wrong. It's not my problem if you are misinformed or if you choose to propagate false beliefs.
We are not talking about the definition of sex, no by definition gay means happy, marriage is between a man and a woman (not a hard concept). No it is unimformed, a lot do just look at pornography, the fact that many look at pornography. There is no propaganda coming from me, do you even know what propaganda means? The difference between their propaganda and mine, is mine is based on reason, not just emotions. You realise that christians are what the church is, it isnt a building. There is good scientific evidence that homosexuality is dangerous
http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/facepalm.jpg
http://www.tulsabeacon.com/?p=203 What now:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/apr/07040309.html What say you now, your evidence for your position is weak, mine is strong.
Look they can have civil unions, I cant control them, besides its probably better that they just had sex with just one homosexual, to prevent the spread of disease. But marriage, keep out because that came from god himself. If we have gay marriage your just simply trying to pervert its purpose which is extremely wrong.
I just googled aids, all it has is general information, that proves nothing
http://www.avert.org/his81_86.htm but here is some info, homosexuals basically made it a bigger deal than it had to be.
You realise the pornography is just another form of homosexuality right, so your sayying there is nothing wrong with pornography? To even get into the industry you have to be a homosexual.
We are not talking about the definition of sex, no by definition gay means happy, marriage is between a man and a woman (not a hard concept). No it is unimformed, a lot do just look at pornography, the fact that many look at pornography. There is no propaganda coming from me, do you even know what propaganda means? The difference between their propaganda and mine, is mine is based on reason, not just emotions. You realise that christians are what the church is, it isnt a building. There is good scientific evidence that homosexuality is dangerous
http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/facepalm.jpg
http://www.tulsabeacon.com/?p=203 What now:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/apr/07040309.html What say you now, your evidence for your position is weak, mine is strong.
On reason? Tell me again what qualifies the Bible as undeniable information and reasonable way of life? Need I refer to the inferior role of women, the slavery, the stoning of people, or do we pick and choose? ;)On the other hand even if the reason gay people want to get married is emotions, still those emotions and the marriage that would result, have no effect on you.
But again I have yet to see a reasonable argument which states that homosexual marriage objectively harms society and it's infastructure.
Ok, lets settle two things
Masturbation: The bible never says that you should not do it, its only says you should not lust towards others (opposite sex, same sex)
gay marriage: Well technically this is the same thing as marriage, gay means happy, so I am for happy merry marriages. Homosexual marriage NO, because you can't have same sex between a man and a woman by definition.
All you people who want homsexuals to marry, you realise that your just going by your opinion right, nothing on facts, your just being gullible listening to the liberal media, and having them tell you whats ok. Movies like broke-back mountiain are designed for homosexual propaganda which paints a picture that is not true, the truth is homosexuals can't commit, a lot of them have had like 500 partners.
The government should not even have control over marriage because it is gods established rule, George Washington did not get married by the government.
marriage license
The problem with marriage license is you can divorce, guess what that does to the kid? Under god there is no way you can divorce under the new testement. you can separate, but you can't just kick one out, it is a sin. When you get marriage license, you give your children to the state, doesnt that sound creepy?
And on the thing about sex, sex is a gift from god, once your marriage, you can have sex all you want, sex is not just for reproducing alone, otherwise you wouldnt even have the urge as often as you do. Otherwise god would of just made us to only have the urge like once in a great while like other creatures, the bible even has many verses pertaining to sex.
Clear?
SegaGenesisfan
You talk about the members here being gullible and supporting "opinions, not facts" yet you go on to say that Brokeback Mountain was "homosexual propaganda," homosexuals are uncommitted and that a lot of them have 500 partners? Please, follow your own advice and do some research on homosexuality before making such blatantly-false and offensive generalizations that were force-fed to you by Christian sources.
Second, marriage has been around far longer than Christianity has been, so saying that your god is the sovereignty that created and upholds all rules regarding marriage is complete ludicrous.
Last, sex is entirely about procreation, despite what your holy book may tell you. The reason humans (and most other animals) have such strong and frequent urges for sex is to ensure that said organism is on a constant and never-ending search to reproduce with another of it's species in order to pass his/her genes down towards the next generation. Feelings of pleasure are just another tool in making sex a preferable activity among humans and other organisms out there.
Ok, lets settle two things
Masturbation: The bible never says that you should not do it, its only says you should not lust towards others (opposite sex, same sex)
gay marriage: Well technically this is the same thing as marriage, gay means happy, so I am for happy merry marriages. Homosexual marriage NO, because you can't have same sex between a man and a woman by definition.
All you people who want homsexuals to marry, you realise that your just going by your opinion right, nothing on facts, your just being gullible listening to the liberal media, and having them tell you whats ok. Movies like broke-back mountiain are designed for homosexual propaganda which paints a picture that is not true, the truth is homosexuals can't commit, a lot of them have had like 500 partners.SegaGenesisfan
What "facts" do you have against homosexuality being "bad"?
The government should not even have control over marriage because it is gods established rule, George Washington did not get married by the government.marriage license
The problem with marriage license is you can divorce, guess what that does to the kid? Under god there is no way you can divorce under the new testement. you can separate, but you can't just kick one out, it is a sin. When you get marriage license, you give your children to the state, doesnt that sound creepy?
And on the thing about sex, sex is a gift from god, once your marriage, you can have sex all you want, sex is not just for reproducing alone, otherwise you wouldnt even have the urge as often as you do. Otherwise god would of just made us to only have the urge like once in a great while like other creatures, the bible even has many verses pertaining to sex.
Clear?
SegaGenesisfan
The Old Testament, in which the anti-homosexuality passage is taken from, also condones stoning disobedient children, stoning people for working on Sundays and selling daughters into slavery. Religion is a private matter and has no concrete, empirical evidence to support its "truth." Humanity has already tried letting religion run its countries... now we've come into an era of the freedom to choose what is right for us as a community of people with different views and opinions... and not have someone else's subjective beliefs shoved down our throats.
Marriage is a public ceremony where two people announce their commitment to each other and by applying for a marriage license, are given legal and financial benefits. It has nothing to do with religion and the practice of committing to each other existed long before any major world religion from the modern day came into existence.
I pose a query... how does a homosexual couple effect you personally? Does their homosexuality cause you pain or suffering? Does it cause you to become diseased in some way? Does it have some inherent effect upon you that permits the government to impose a legal restriction on those couples? Is it intruding on your rights and freedom of choice?
I already know the answer is no but I am guessing your answer will be "but my religion says its bad."
It is a known fact that christians started marriage
SegaGenesisfan
Hahahahah, oh man...
But again I have yet to see a reasonable argument which states that homosexual marriage objectively harms society and it's infastructure. TeenagedHomosexual marriage is kind of a misnomer. You don't really have to have sex to get married. I mean the state doesn't say, "Thou shalt make love to your partner every X number of days".
Ok, lets settle two things
Masturbation: The bible never says that you should not do it, its only says you should not lust towards others (opposite sex, same sex)
gay marriage: Well technically this is the same thing as marriage, gay means happy, so I am for happy merry marriages. Homosexual marriage NO, because you can't have same sex between a man and a woman by definition.
All you people who want homsexuals to marry, you realise that your just going by your opinion right, nothing on facts, your just being gullible listening to the liberal media, and having them tell you whats ok. Movies like broke-back mountiain are designed for homosexual propaganda which paints a picture that is not true, the truth is homosexuals can't commit, a lot of them have had like 500 partners.SegaGenesisfan
I stopped reading at this incredibly offensive statement to which you've given absolutly no proof. :| Where are your facts?
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I'm completely fine with civil unions, other than that; marriage is between a man and a woman.p2rusSeparate but equal? Its a shame that homosexuality isn't a protected class and isn't subject to the equal protection clause.
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I'm completely fine with civil unions, other than that; marriage is between a man and a woman.p2rusSeparate but equal?
It'd be equal if civil unions provided the same 1,138 statutory provisions as marriage and were recognized by both the federal government and the states, but they aren't.
[QUOTE="Teenaged"]But again I have yet to see a reasonable argument which states that homosexual marriage objectively harms society and it's infastructure. VandalvideoHomosexual marriage is kind of a misnomer. You don't really have to have sex to get married. I mean the state doesn't say, "Thou shalt make love to your partner every X number of days".I don't understand. What's your point?
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]But again I have yet to see a reasonable argument which states that homosexual marriage objectively harms society and it's infastructure. TeenagedHomosexual marriage is kind of a misnomer. You don't really have to have sex to get married. I mean the state doesn't say, "Thou shalt make love to your partner every X number of days".I don't understand. What's your point? It was a segway. If you had taken the bait I would have proceeded to explain how bashing same-sex marriage on the basis of religion is a fallacy because marriage does not necessitate sex.
[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Homosexual marriage is kind of a misnomer. You don't really have to have sex to get married. I mean the state doesn't say, "Thou shalt make love to your partner every X number of days".VandalvideoI don't understand. What's your point? It was a segway. If you had taken the bait I would have proceeded to explain how bashing same-sex marriage on the basis of religion is a fallacy because marriage does not necessitate sex.But we agree, then.
I already did research, your just denying the evidence, thats your choice, I cant help you if you dont want to listen to reason. I dont have to look at the bible to know homosexuality is wrong, you can just use science. Those where the laws of Isreal, gods laws, keeping his sabboth holy was a commandment, I read them myself, it is still a sin to disobey your parents. That was gods involvment, if you work on the sabboth day, your disobeying god, when you disobey god you die. The reason is that god was personally there, it was much different back then, god was even right in front of them, he was visible to them. And what evidence do you have that marriage was established thousands of years before christianity, you dont even know what was thousands of years before. by the definition of marriage you can't be a homosexual, it is definitively impossible. To try to argue this, is to waste time, and what is your evidence that homosexual marriage is positive? And it does effect me, just like how the economy effects me, if all the rich people lose their money, eventually no money can be invested into expanding business, and eventually it hurts the poor. There has been people who have actually been fined for not assosiating with homosexuals, which should be a first amendment right, so it does effect me.
Besides who are you to say that the bible is false, you are but a vapor on the earth to think that you know better, the bible is historic text, just think about why the authors wrote it, how it reads.
Your evidence is a site that clearly has the intention to bash and not make logical arguments. I visited the page left of the emoticons and it was a complete tragical attempt to bash homosexuals. But still you say you have proof but then again you fall to the defence of "god" and consequently the Bible. But you haven't answered me: do you also encourage the stoning of people, slavery and the inferiority of women? :roll:I already did research, your just denying the evidence, thats your choice, I cant help you if you dont want to listen to reason. I dont have to look at the bible to know homosexuality is wrong, you can just use science. Those where the laws of Isreal, gods laws, keeping his sabboth holy was a commandment, I read them myself, it is still a sin to disobey your parents. That was gods involvment, if you work on the sabboth day, your disobeying god, when you disobey god you die. The reason is that god was personally there, it was much different back then, god was even right in front of them, he was visible to them.
And what evidence do you have that marriage was established thousands of years before christianity, you dont even know what was thousands of years before.
SegaGenesisfan
"when you disobey god you die"... hmm... how odd that I haven't dropped dead after attempting to work on a Sunday.I already did research, your just denying the evidence, thats your choice, I cant help you if you dont want to listen to reason. I dont have to look at the bible to know homosexuality is wrong, you can just use science. Those where the laws of Isreal, gods laws, keeping his sabboth holy was a commandment, I read them myself, it is still a sin to disobey your parents. That was gods involvment, if you work on the sabboth day, your disobeying god, when you disobey god you die. The reason is that god was personally there, it was much different back then, god was even right in front of them, he was visible to them. And what evidence do you have that marriage was established thousands of years before christianity, you dont even know what was thousands of years before. by the definition of marriage you can't be a homosexual, it is definitively impossible. To try to argue this, is to waste time, and what is your evidence that homosexual marriage is positive? And it does effect me, just like how the economy effects me, if all the rich people lose their money, eventually no money can be invested into expanding business, and eventually it hurts the poor. There has been people who have actually been fined for not assosiating with homosexuals, which should be a first amendment right, so it does effect me.
Besides who are you to say that the bible is false, you are but a vapor on the earth to think that you know better, the bible is historic text, just think about why the authors wrote it, how it reads.
SegaGenesisfan
As for the definition of marriage - some places have a definition of marriage that includes gay marriage.
And as for you pointing out that the Bible is an historic text, so what? Mein Kampf is an historic text.
I never used the bible yet, but I can if it helps support my arguement, another thing is it can force people to become homosexual, in one passage it says "even the woman have gone against nature," (not an exact quote), which means that they were turned into homosexuals because all the men where abandoning woman for sex with each other (burning with passion).
This does not have to be about god at all, maybe you should research about slaves and such. You realise that god personally freed the jews from slavery right? But the kind of slaves back then where not abused, there was many rules, it was a way to support people who had no way of supporting themselves. But it was not what god originally intended for man, just like polygamy was not the original intention of gods creation. In the new testement he puts polygamy in the grave, god allowed polygamy. The reason was to reproduce quicker, because men would die in wars, etc.
You know the reality is you lack understanding of the bible, so in your ignorance you just refute it, even though you dont know it at all.
1. Your research probably just consists of Fred Phelp's speeches. >__>I already did research, your just denying the evidence, thats your choice, I cant help you if you dont want to listen to reason. I dont have to look at the bible to know homosexuality is wrong, you can just use science. Those where the laws of Isreal, gods laws, keeping his sabboth holy was a commandment, I read them myself, it is still a sin to disobey your parents. That was gods involvment, if you work on the sabboth day, your disobeying god, when you disobey god you die. The reason is that god was personally there, it was much different back then, god was even right in front of them, he was visible to them.
And what evidence do you have that marriage was established thousands of years before christianity, you dont even know what was thousands of years before.
SegaGenesisfan
2. How the hell does science prove that homosexuality is wrong?
3. The New Covenant.
4. Jesus Christ never said anything about gays.
5. I've heard that the ancient Greeks had marriage, and they had never heard of Judaism or Christianity.
5. The Bible isn't neccesarily a fact. There has been little to no physical evidence other than a few anecdotes.
6. Stop being a bigot. You're making me ashamed to be a Christian.
No you see if you used the Bible it would actually kill your argument.I never used the bible yet, but I can if it helps support my arguement, another thing is it can force people to become homosexual, in one passage it says "even the woman have gone against nature," (not an exact quote), which means that they were turned into homosexuals because all the men where abandoning woman for sex with each other (burning with passion).
This does not have to be about god at all, maybe you should research about slaves and such. You realise that god personally freed the jews from slavery right? But the kind of slaves back then where not abused, there was many rules, it was a way to support people who had no way of supporting themselves.But it was not what god originally intended for man, just like polygamy was not the original intention of gods creation.In the new testement he puts polygamy in the grave, god allowed polygamy. The reason was to reproduce quicker, because men would die in wars, etc.
You know the reality is you lack understanding of the bible, so in your ignorance you just refute it, even though you dont know it at all.
SegaGenesisfan
That part must be a part of a conspiracy theory only a hardcore Christian can think of.
You must be very, oh very misinformed and I am disturbed by your lack of historical knowledge
So you know what god intended. Based on..... the Bible I suppose. Been there before. Read some answers before that.
Again here you must be in close contact with god. That would explain it...
The headstrong belief in the Bible is the ignorance of reality. ;)
I never used the bible yet, but I can if it helps support my arguement, another thing is it can force people to become homosexual, in one passage it says "even the woman have gone against nature," (not an exact quote), which means that they were turned into homosexuals because all the men where abandoning woman for sex with each other (burning with passion).Ugh.
Whoa whoa whoa. Back up a sentence. Are you saying homosexuality is contagious? If so, wouldn't everyone be gay because I'm sure we all have come in contact with gays.
This does not have to be about god at all, maybe you should research about slaves and such. You realise that god personally freed the jews from slavery right?
For the love of God, not everyone is a Christian. If everyone was, then wouldn't the church be controlling every aspect of our life?
But the kind of slaves back then where not abused, there was many rules, it was a way to support people who had no way of supporting themselves. But it was not what god originally intended for man, just like polygamy was not the original intention of gods creation. In the new testement he puts polygamy in the grave, god allowed polygamy. The reason was to reproduce quicker, because men would die in wars, etc.
Wow. A giant pile of non-sequitors. Very convinving.
You know the reality is you lack understanding of the bible, so in your ignorance you just refute it, even though you dont know it at all. So says the guy who forgot about the New Covenant. :roll: SegaGenesisfan
[QUOTE="p2rus"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I'm completely fine with civil unions, other than that; marriage is between a man and a woman.VandalvideoSeparate but equal? Its a shame that homosexuality isn't a protected class and isn't subject to the equal protection clause.Haven't I seen you argue that protected classes should only revolve around immutable characteristics?
No you see if you used the Bible it would actually kill your argument.[QUOTE="SegaGenesisfan"]
I never used the bible yet, but I can if it helps support my arguement, another thing is it can force people to become homosexual, in one passage it says "even the woman have gone against nature," (not an exact quote), which means that they were turned into homosexuals because all the men where abandoning woman for sex with each other (burning with passion).
This does not have to be about god at all, maybe you should research about slaves and such. You realise that god personally freed the jews from slavery right? But the kind of slaves back then where not abused, there was many rules, it was a way to support people who had no way of supporting themselves.But it was not what god originally intended for man, just like polygamy was not the original intention of gods creation.In the new testement he puts polygamy in the grave, god allowed polygamy. The reason was to reproduce quicker, because men would die in wars, etc.
You know the reality is you lack understanding of the bible, so in your ignorance you just refute it, even though you dont know it at all.
Teenaged
That part must be a part of a conspiracy theory only a hardcore Christian can think of.
You must be very, oh very misinformed and I am disturbed by your lack of historical knowledge
So you know what god intended. Based on..... the Bible I suppose. Been there before. Read some answers before that.
Again here you must be in close contact with god. That would explain it...
The headstrong belief in the Bible is the ignorance of reality. ;)
Pretty colours. ^____^[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="p2rus"] Separate but equal?Stevo_the_gamerIts a shame that homosexuality isn't a protected class and isn't subject to the equal protection clause.Haven't I seen you argue that protected classes should only revolve around immutable characteristics?Speaking of which, since hetersexuals aren't a protected class, it looks like no one should get marriage rights at all. >_>
]Speaking of which, since hetersexuals aren't a protected class, it looks like no one should get marriage rights at all. >_>Funky_LlamaIt isn't a matter of granting rights, it is a matter of protecting *from* subjugation. Protected classes are protected from being subjugated and are subject to harsher judicial scrutiny when laws concerning them arise. I mean you could easily have a state deny heterosexual marriage. Nothing yall could do.
[QUOTE="Teenaged"]No you see if you used the Bible it would actually kill your argument.[QUOTE="SegaGenesisfan"]
I never used the bible yet, but I can if it helps support my arguement, another thing is it can force people to become homosexual, in one passage it says "even the woman have gone against nature," (not an exact quote), which means that they were turned into homosexuals because all the men where abandoning woman for sex with each other (burning with passion).
This does not have to be about god at all, maybe you should research about slaves and such. You realise that god personally freed the jews from slavery right? But the kind of slaves back then where not abused, there was many rules, it was a way to support people who had no way of supporting themselves.But it was not what god originally intended for man, just like polygamy was not the original intention of gods creation.In the new testement he puts polygamy in the grave, god allowed polygamy. The reason was to reproduce quicker, because men would die in wars, etc.
You know the reality is you lack understanding of the bible, so in your ignorance you just refute it, even though you dont know it at all.
Funky_Llama
That part must be a part of a conspiracy theory only a hardcore Christian can think of.
You must be very, oh very misinformed and I am disturbed by your lack of historical knowledge
So you know what god intended. Based on..... the Bible I suppose. Been there before. Read some answers before that.
Again here you must be in close contact with god. That would explain it...
The headstrong belief in the Bible is the ignorance of reality. ;)
Pretty colours. ^____^It wasn't intended to look like a gay flag. It was the only way to answer to specific parts. :P]Haven't I seen you argue that protected classes should only revolve around immutable characteristics?Stevo_the_gamerI quoted a supreme court justice that was stating to such an extent if thats what you mean.
[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]No you see if you used the Bible it would actually kill your argument.Pretty colours. ^____^It wasn't intended to look like a gay flag. It was the only way to answer to specific parts. :PThat part must be a part of a conspiracy theory only a hardcore Christian can think of.
You must be very, oh very misinformed and I am disturbed by your lack of historical knowledge
So you know what god intended. Based on..... the Bible I suppose. Been there before. Read some answers before that.
Again here you must be in close contact with god. That would explain it...
The headstrong belief in the Bible is the ignorance of reality. ;)
Teenaged
It's not a bad thing if it's fabulous.
[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]No you see if you used the Bible it would actually kill your argument.Pretty colours. ^____^It wasn't intended to look like a gay flag. It was the only way to answer to specific parts. :PI hadn't noticed that. :lol:That part must be a part of a conspiracy theory only a hardcore Christian can think of.
You must be very, oh very misinformed and I am disturbed by your lack of historical knowledge
So you know what god intended. Based on..... the Bible I suppose. Been there before. Read some answers before that.
Again here you must be in close contact with god. That would explain it...
The headstrong belief in the Bible is the ignorance of reality. ;)
Teenaged
[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]]Speaking of which, since hetersexuals aren't a protected class, it looks like no one should get marriage rights at all. >_>VandalvideoIt isn't a matter of granting rights, it is a matter of protecting *from* subjugation. Protected classes are protected from being subjugated and are subject to harsher judicial scrutiny when laws concerning them arise. I mean you could easily have a state deny heterosexual marriage. Nothing yall could do.Mm, but Stevo_the_Gamer had previous argued that the fact that homosexuals aren't a protected class meant that gay marriage couldn't be legal.
]Mm, but Stevo_the_Gamer had previous argued that the fact that homosexuals aren't a protected class meant that gay marriage couldn't be legal.Funky_LlamaNah, all it really means is that the federal government cannot *force* or *protect* the status of homosexual marriage. It is completely a state issue, as was decided in Loving v. Virginia. It is the progative of the state, "Less it is a question of a protected class".
So straight people don't look at pornography? And the reason AIDS is such a problem is because of extremely high levels of unprotected sex in many african countries. And why do they not use protection? Because of religion.You realise the pornography is just another form of homosexuality right, so your sayying there is nothing wrong with pornography? To even get into the industry you have to be a homosexual.
SegaGenesisfan
[QUOTE="SegaGenesisfan"]So straight people don't look at pornography? And the reason AIDS is such a problem is because of extremely high levels of unprotected sex in many african countries. And why do they not use protection? Because of religion. I guess Sega genesisfan has an insider giving him info on how the pornography industry works. :lol: Or....... :roll:You realise the pornography is just another form of homosexuality right, so your sayying there is nothing wrong with pornography? To even get into the industry you have to be a homosexual.
Bourbons3
Although I hate what they do its none of my business. It is my business when the government legalizes it. Its basically saying its OK to our children. ATT-FighterAnd your children will instantly want to become gay because of being "exposed" to homosexual role-models. :roll: Homosexuality is not contageous, or conscious.
[QUOTE="ATT-Fighter"]Although I hate what they do its none of my business. It is my business when the government legalizes it. Its basically saying its OK to our children. TeenagedAnd your children will instantly want to become gay because of being "exposed" to homosexual role-models. :roll: Homosexuality is not contageous, or conscious. Or is it? I mean they recently foudn that fat was contagious. (AD-36) Whose to say homosexuality isn't?
Although I hate what they do its none of my business. It is my business when the government legalizes it. Its basically saying its OK to our children. ATT-Fighter
And all that'll teach is them is to be tolerant and in the slight chance that they do end up being gay they won't feel like they're freaks.
[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]]Mm, but Stevo_the_Gamer had previous argued that the fact that homosexuals aren't a protected class meant that gay marriage couldn't be legal.VandalvideoNah, all it really means is that the federal government cannot *force* or *protect* the status of homosexual marriage. It is completely a state issue, as was decided in Loving v. Virginia. It is the progative of the state, "Less it is a question of a protected class".And I do believe I mentioned that as well -- marriage is defined by the states, not the Federal Government. *searches for thread*
[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="ATT-Fighter"]Although I hate what they do its none of my business. It is my business when the government legalizes it. Its basically saying its OK to our children. VandalvideoAnd your children will instantly want to become gay because of being "exposed" to homosexual role-models. :roll: Homosexuality is not contageous, or conscious. Or is it? I mean they recently foudn that fat was contagious. (AD-13) Whose to say homosexuality isn't?Fat is contageous??? Besides homosexual people are being promoted by the media all the time these days. Every tv series has a gay couple, more news on how gay people claim their right etc. If it were to happen, wouldn't it happen with those things alone?
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