McCain picks Sarah Palin as his Vice

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="litewo"]Her experience dealing with (or even having an opinion on) things outside these narrow Alaskan issues is nonexistent. litewo

You mean like energy, abortion, capital punishment and gay marriage?

I was thinking more along the lines of foreign policy, immigration, national economy and health care. Her energy policies in Alaska only serve to highlight the divide between Alaskan politics and National politics. She's completely unfit for the national stage.

Health Care.

Economy.

Foreign policy is granted.

Energy.

Seriously, your posts scream "propaganda.":roll:

[QUOTE="litewo"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="litewo"]Her experience dealing with (or even having an opinion on) things outside these narrow Alaskan issues is nonexistent. Theokhoth

You mean like energy, abortion, capital punishment and gay marriage?

I was thinking more along the lines of foreign policy, immigration, national economy and health care. Her energy policies in Alaska only serve to highlight the divide between Alaskan politics and National politics. She's completely unfit for the national stage.

Health Care.

Economy.

Foreign policy is granted.

Seriously, your posts scream "propaganda.":roll:

Which one of those they say is the number 1 issue? Economy isn't itUnforgiven2870

Define "they."

Guess who else has ZERO foreign policy experience?

Why should evolution get anywhere near a ****oom in this day and age? Haven't there been serious questions raised about Darwin's theory? litewo

Why should evolution get anywhere near a ****oom in this day and age? Haven't there been serious questions raised about Darwin's theory?

litewo

Yes, but science is self-critical.

Also, creationism is a load of BS but it's not the reason why public schools are failing right now.

Guess who else has ZERO foreign policy experience?

Theokhoth

What the hell was Obama doing in that pic?

[QUOTE="Unforgiven2870"]Which one of those they say is the number 1 issue? Economy isn't itTheokhoth

Define "they."

Guess who else has ZERO foreign policy experience?

wait and see. that's what I'm going to do.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Guess who else has ZERO foreign policy experience?

Genetic_Code

What the hell was Obama doing in that pic?

I don't wanna know.>_>

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Guess who else has ZERO foreign policy experience?

Genetic_Code

What the hell was Obama doing in that pic?

Giving an emphatic CHE-E-E-ESE!

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Unforgiven2870"]Which one of those they say is the number 1 issue? Economy isn't itDreams-Visions

Define "they."

Guess who else has ZERO foreign policy experience?

wait and see. that's what I'm going to do.

What in the hell are you talking about?:|

[QUOTE="litewo"]

I was thinking more along the lines of foreign policy, immigration, national economy and health care. Her energy policies in Alaska only serve to highlight the divide between Alaskan politics and National politics. She's completely unfit for the national stage.

Oleg_Huzwog

By your standards - Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Roosevelt, Coolidge, etc. could not have been fit since they were all former Governors.

It has nothing to do with just being a Governor. I wanted either Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee for President (and then VP). A US Governor can show how he or she would handle the Presidency, but Palin just hasn't had the job long enough to show us, and she deals mainly with issues irrelevant to most Americans. Her solutions to problems in Alaska aren't the same as those Romney or Huckabee had to come up with.

[QUOTE="Unforgiven2870"]Which one of those they say is the number 1 issue? Economy isn't itTheokhoth

Define "they."

Guess who else has ZERO foreign policy experience?

Haha I love this pic.

Haha I love this pic.battlefront23

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]Haha I love this pic.blackngold29

Wow! He looks really white.

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]Haha I love this pic.Genetic_Code

Wow! He looks really white.

This has just become a Photoshop This! thread.

Now. . . .GO!

[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"]

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]Haha I love this pic.Theokhoth

Wow! He looks really white.

This has just become a Photoshop This! thread.

Now. . . .GO!

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Unforgiven2870"]Which one of those they say is the number 1 issue? Economy isn't itDreams-Visions

Define "they."

Guess who else has ZERO foreign policy experience?

wait and see. that's what I'm going to do.

I love how hypocritical everyone is. Sure Palin was partially chosen because she is a woman and could help win votes, but how is this any different from what Obama is doing. He plays the race card while McCain plays the sex card. However, there is something more, they chose Palin because she is fresh and new. Like Obama said, Washington doesn't bring change, change comes to Washington. Bringing an able female Governor from the far northeast of the United States will bring change and new ideas to the White House. She is the most popular Governor in the US, a pro-reformer, pro-environmentalist, and is not a product of Washington, D.C. Palin is a family mom who can relate to the middle class (5 children). I don't think McCain could have picked a better candidate except Condoleezza Rice. Though some would associate her with Iraq, she remains popular.

Let's not forget that Obama was in the same boat as Palin not so long ago--obscure. What's ironic is that the same qualification issues Obama supporters cite against Palin are the same issues Obama has himself--a Presidential candidate mind you, not a VP candidate. And apparently since he was nominated as the Democratic Presidential candidate, experience really doesn't matter anyway so we come to a standstill. We just have a promise of change, how many times have I heard that one...

So why don't we all keep an open mind and be informed instead of making false assumptions. Though I know I'm wasting my breath because many have already made theirs up. I doubt any Democrats will watch the RNC, only ones like Jon Stewart and Keith Olbermann in order to mock them. I love balanced media.

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

The McCain campaign could never have gotten all the Hillary supporters without sacrificing the conservative vote. But that doesn't mean that courting some of them is impossible. Part of Obama's mission at the convention was to demonstrate himself as a supporter of women's rights, declaring that he would fight for equal pay for equal work, to attract the women who voted for Hillary because they believed in women's rights and a female president. This pick is a counter to that move, an attempt to tell women who voted for Hillary because of that 'glass ceiling' that she was putting cracks in that a vote for McCain would be a vote for the future of women's rights, solely on the virtue of putting a female in the White House, in a position to become President.

I'm sure the McCain campaign was aware of the obstacles, but they were also aware of the upsides despite them, and that's why they made the choice they did.

Theokhoth

I think that the McCain party would be more focused on appealing to Conservatives rather than Hillary supporters, as

1. There are many more of them, and

2. They've been complaining about McCain's moderation since the beginning.

Palin's Conservative views are more right-wing than McCain's, so her position as VP might have pissed off Conservatives rethinking their position on voting for McCain, and it would also rake in more potential voters than appealing to the Hillary fanbase. And let's not forget the new voters: college students tend to criticise McCain's age, but now that a young and attractive woman is his VP, he may become more aesthetically pleasing to younger voters who believe looks mean everything. Not to mention college feminists.

I just think you're being way too black-and-white about it.

Is Sarah Palin really the only conservative choice out there?

He definitely had to pick a conservative voice. If he picked someone like Mitt Romney, he might have alienated a large portion of the Republican party. Choosing Palin does more than just appeal to conservatives, though, and as I said before, a large part of why she won out over other candidates has to do with her gender. It's not sexist or anything, it's just politics, like picking a VP candidate from a different region to get better appeal in that area.

It's a risky choice, but it could pay off for them. There are definitely large potential upsides. A lot will depend on what she says and does in the coming weeks, though, because she really is an unknown, and if she doesn't appear informed, she will get hammered.

As a mcCain supporter this will defintly help give him women supporters but really Alaska is such a small state why pick your VP from there? borts

1. Alaska is a different kind of political state

2. the state is bigger than half of the continental US and is the biggest US state

Also, I forgot to mention that Mitt Romney is mornom and that would've hurt him. Nothing wrong with the religion, just isn't a popular and positively perceived religion.

My teacher announced that in the middle of class in the middle of class I'm like "all hillary supporters are belong to us" :P

No, I didn't really say that, but you get what I mean

[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

"Hillary put 18 million holes into the glass ceiling...but it turns out the women of America aren't done yet and we can shatter that glass ceiling once and for all!" - Palin today.

Now imagine the field day Republicans would have if Obama had said that about black folk.

But I'm sure it'll be okay now.

Dreams-Visions

You're right. That can be viewed as sexist. :o

Republicans now love identity politics. Or will be forced to love it.

Whatever it takes, right?

*goes to make Palin gender card .jpg*

while your at it create a funny gif. relating her to Cammie Dunaway. (watch her speech, you'll see)

[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="duxup"]Alaska isn't Washington, nor does it deal with the rest of the world.duxup

The Senate certainly does having something to do with Washington and the rest of the world. Unlike Alaska.

If you honestly believe that a senator has more leadership experiance and experiance with the executive branch than a governor.....then wow...I really don't know what to say.

I just saw it on TV and right away I see the Obama camps has called her out for being inexperienced on foreign policy. O, the irony.

But this sure is an odd pick, guess I'll have to wait and see how things play out.

[QUOTE="hokies1313"][QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="hokies1313"]

Just announced. I think this is a great pick. She's a solid republican and it seems like she got things done in Alaska.

(And as VP you don't really do anything...)

nocoolnamejim

Well judging from Palin's record of city councilwoman, Mayor, and Governor, I'd say that she has a great deal of experience in executive matters, does Senator Obama? Senators, while a nobel profession, don't really deal with making a decisions like an executive branch member would. It requires snap judgements and that those snap judgements be the right ones. So no, I don't think this will hurt McCain, it's a sensible pick, woman, solid republican that can work bipartisanly. What is the President but America's governor?

First off, what is a successful or unsuccessful convention? Does the Democratic Party not tearing itself apart in a battle between Obama and Clinton supporters make it successful or am I missing something?

Anyway, Yes McCain will have to dial back the "inexperienced" theme. I think the reason he was using it was the fact that following the start of the Russia-Georgia crisis, McCain jumped up in the polls, closing the gap between himself and Obama in a short period of time. I think the message he took from that, and what a lot of people took from it was that McCain was percieved as a more experienced person in Foreign Affairs compared to Obama (whether true or not), especially after the stances both candidates took, Obama taking a more moderate approach, McCain a very hard line approach.

There are several things advantageous about this pick and you hit one of those things on the head. It took away the thunder from Obama's speech last night. He dominated the airwaves with his announcement. Another one is that he changed the mentality of the race. It is no longer New vs. Old, Good New Ways against the Bad Old Ways. It shows that McCain is also for change in Washington and isn't just a "politics as usual" kinda guy. I personally was hoping for Bobby Jindal being picked for VP as I mentioned in my blog a while back. But instead of a young, Indian-American male, McCain picked a young (relatively) female. This isn't your usual Republican Ticket, both campaigns have broken/will break history in this election.

Yes, McCain will have to change one part of his message, or atleast back off of it, but overall, I see this as a victory.

I just saw it on TV and right away I see the Obama camps has called her out for being inexperienced on foreign policy. O, the irony.

But this sure is an odd pick, guess I'll have to wait and see how things play out.

limpbizkit818

lol, Obama camp. has the right to complain and get on Palin as much as they can about her inexperience as McCain did with Obama.

she was a Governor for almost 2 years in ..... ALASKA :| Maybe if she was the Governor of say, NewYork or Cali then maybe ill give her credit but its ALASKA :| It probably was on the same level as playing SimCity.Tjeremiah1988

LOL at the simcity remark.

[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

I just saw it on TV and right away I see the Obama camps has called her out for being inexperienced on foreign policy. O, the irony.

But this sure is an odd pick, guess I'll have to wait and see how things play out.

Tjeremiah1988

lol, Obama camp. has the right to complain and get on Palin as much as they can about her inexperience as McCain did with Obama.

But don't you find it a little hypocritical?

How can you tell everyone that your lack of experience is not going to be a problem and then attack someone for the very same flaw?

This is a very smart move on McCain's part. Picking a Female as his VP will most definitely draw in Female Votes, McCain has like 70% of white Male votes or something like that While Obama has a large portion of Female Voters by doing this he is taking voters away from Obama and adding them to him which should greatly help him in the polls. She may be inexperienced but she's much more experienced than Obama is, so it's all good.

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

I just saw it on TV and right away I see the Obama camps has called her out for being inexperienced on foreign policy. O, the irony.

But this sure is an odd pick, guess I'll have to wait and see how things play out.

limpbizkit818

lol, Obama camp. has the right to complain and get on Palin as much as they can about her inexperience as McCain did with Obama.

But don't you find it a little hypocritical?

How can you tell everyone that your lack of experience is not going to be a problem and then attack someone for the very same flaw?

Sarah Palin has a retard baby. Her genes are inferior. :lol:

SirSnafflepuss

go crawl in a hole and die :|

Sarah Palin has a retard baby. Her genes are inferior. :lol:

SirSnafflepuss

Wow, dude...

i agree with you, but it is a thousand times more hypocritical for McCain to say Obama is inexperienced, then pick her for VP. killtactics

Only if you assume that a VP candidate should be every bit as experienced as a Presidential candidate.

i agree with you, but it is a thousand times more hypocritical for McCain to say Obama is inexperienced, then pick her for VP. killtactics

O yes, I agree with you on that.

Personally I think McCain should just call Obama out on the issues and stop the name calling.

I find it ironic that John McCain has continued to attack Obama's "lack of experience," but yet picks a govenor that has been serving for less than two years and is younger than Obama.

Good one, John. ;)

[QUOTE="killtactics"]i agree with you, but it is a thousand times more hypocritical for McCain to say Obama is inexperienced, then pick her for VP. Oleg_Huzwog

Only if you assume that a VP candidate should be every bit as experienced as a Presidential candidate.

What is funny to me is how Obama criticizes her lack of foreign policy experience.

What foreign policy experience does he have? None. Unless you count that ridiculous trip to Europe he took.

I find it ironic that John McCain has continued to attack Obama's "lack of experience," but yet picks a govenor that has been serving for less than two years and is younger than Obama.

Good one, John. ;)

Maniacc1

I find it funny that Obama supporters expect a potential vice president to have the same level of experience as a potential president.

[QUOTE="Maniacc1"]

I find it ironic that John McCain has continued to attack Obama's "lack of experience," but yet picks a govenor that has been serving for less than two years and is younger than Obama.

Good one, John. ;)

Theokhoth

I find it funny that Obama supporters expect a potential vice president to have the same level of experience as a potential president.

I don't think that at all. I just don't like someone who calls someone a hypocrite and then becomes one himself. Plus, I think it's very important to look at the credentials of a woman who could possibly become the leader of our country if McCain dies.

I don't think that at all. I just want someone who isn't a hypocrite.

Maniacc1

If you don't think a potential Vice President is expected to have the same amount of experience as a potential President, then there's nothing hypocritical about McCain's choice.

Bad choice now he just wants women supporters. She has way less experience then Obama. She has only been Mayor or Senator of a town of 5400 people. That is very little people.MgamerBD

I laughed so hard.:lol:

[QUOTE="Maniacc1"]

I find it ironic that John McCain has continued to attack Obama's "lack of experience," but yet picks a govenor that has been serving for less than two years and is younger than Obama.

Good one, John. ;)

Theokhoth

I find it funny that Obama supporters expect a potential vice president to have the same level of experience as a potential president.

Because a potential vice president IS a potential president. Especially with McCain's age.