McCain picks Sarah Palin as his Vice

[QUOTE="Maniacc1"]I don't think that at all. I just want someone who isn't a hypocrite.

Oleg_Huzwog

If you don't think a potential Vice President is expected to have the same amount of experience as a potential President, then there's nothing hypocritical about McCain's choice.

Yes there is. I find it hard to believe that McCain can say Obama is inexperienced, but pick someone who could run this country that is even less experienced. She is next in line if something happens to McCain. I don't think a vice president should believe exactly what the potential president does, but they should at least share the views of their running mate. How can someone younger than Obama stand behind McCain saying Obama is inexperienced?

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"][QUOTE="Maniacc1"]I don't think that at all. I just want someone who isn't a hypocrite.

Maniacc1

If you don't think a potential Vice President is expected to have the same amount of experience as a potential President, then there's nothing hypocritical about McCain's choice.

Yes there is. I find it hard to believe that McCain can say Obama is inexperienced, but pick someone who could run this country that is even less experienced. She is next in line if something happens to McCain. I don't think a vice president should believe exactly what the potential president does, but they should at least share the views of their running mate. How can someone younger than Obama stand behind McCain saying Obama is inexperienced?

Well Biden is WAY worse then she is. That guy will not shut it up he rambles on and on about things that don't matter to make himself sound better, It's annoying. :x

[QUOTE="Maniacc1"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"][QUOTE="Maniacc1"]I don't think that at all. I just want someone who isn't a hypocrite.

battlefront23

If you don't think a potential Vice President is expected to have the same amount of experience as a potential President, then there's nothing hypocritical about McCain's choice.

Yes there is. I find it hard to believe that McCain can say Obama is inexperienced, but pick someone who could run this country that is even less experienced. She is next in line if something happens to McCain. I don't think a vice president should believe exactly what the potential president does, but they should at least share the views of their running mate. How can someone younger than Obama stand behind McCain saying Obama is inexperienced?

Well Biden is WAY worse then she is. That guy will not shut it up he rambles on and on about things that don't matter to make himself sound better, It's annoying. :x

So because Biden talks so much he's incapable of running the country? I don't know about you, but I'd rather pick a well known senator who has worked for 35 years over an unknown governor who has worked for less than 2.

Yes there is. I find it hard to believe that McCain can say Obama is inexperienced, but pick someone who could run this country that is even less experienced. She is next in line if something happens to McCain. I don't think a vice president should believe exactly what the potential president does, but they should at least share the views of their running mate. How can someone younger than Obama stand behind McCain saying Obama is inexperienced?

Maniacc1

You've already relented that the VP candidate doesn't have to be as experienced as the Presidential candidate... yet you revert back to comparing a VP candidate's experience with a Presidential candidate's.

So because Biden talks so much he's incapable of running the country? I don't know about you, but I'd rather pick a well known senator who has worked for 35 years over an unknown governor who has worked for less than 2.

Maniacc1

And how do you feel about a Senator with over 20 years versus one with less than 3?

[QUOTE="Maniacc1"]

Yes there is. I find it hard to believe that McCain can say Obama is inexperienced, but pick someone who could run this country that is even less experienced. She is next in line if something happens to McCain. I don't think a vice president should believe exactly what the potential president does, but they should at least share the views of their running mate. How can someone younger than Obama stand behind McCain saying Obama is inexperienced?

Oleg_Huzwog

You've already relented that the VP candidate doesn't have to be as experienced as the Presidential candidate... yet you revert back to comparing a VP candidate's experience with a Presidential candidate's.

No, a vice presidential candidate does not have to be as experienced as the presidential candidate. But, a good vice presidential candidate must follow the same views of the presidential candidate, otherwise they are just a person standing next to them.

Palin, I'm assuming, follows the same beliefs as McCain. McCain believes Obama is inexperienced. Therefore, Palin thinks Obama is inexperienced as well. That is what is hypocritical.

No, a vice presidential candidate does not have to be as experienced as the presidential candidate. But, a good vice presidential candidate must follow the same views of the presidential candidate, otherwise they are just a person standing next to them.

Palin, I'm assuming, follows the same beliefs as McCain. McCain believes Obama is inexperienced. Therefore, Palin thinks Obama is inexperienced as well. That is what is hypocritical.

Maniacc1

No. Based upon the acceptance of a difference in experience expectations for the two positions, that is not hypocritical. It'd be hypocritical if and only if you were comparing two candidates running for the same position.

[QUOTE="Maniacc1"]So because Biden talks so much he's incapable of running the country? I don't know about you, but I'd rather pick a well known senator who has worked for 35 years over an unknown governor who has worked for less than 2.

Oleg_Huzwog

And how do you feel about a Senator with over 20 years versus one with less than 3?

Joe Biden is, of course, more experienced than Obama. I'm not stupid enough to argue that. Biden can help Obama with his experience. In McCain's case it is reversed. Is Palin going to help McCain with her experience? No, because in that case McCain has more. Then, if McCain cannot serve anymore, Palin becomes president and we have an inexperienced leader.

Joe Biden is, of course, more experienced than Obama. I'm not stupid enough to argue that. Biden can help Obama with his experience. In McCain's case it is reversed. Is Palin going to help McCain with her experience? No, because in that case McCain has more. Then, if McCain cannot serve anymore, Palin becomes president and we have an inexperienced leader.

Maniacc1

The only way Palin could become President is if McCain dies or is removed from office. By the time such an event were to occur, Palin would have a couple years of VP to her resume. Suddenly, she'd be one of the most experienced candidates in the country.

Joe Biden is, of course, more experienced than Obama. I'm not stupid enough to argue that. Biden can help Obama with his experience. In McCain's case it is reversed. Is Palin going to help McCain with her experience? No, because in that case McCain has more. Then, if McCain cannot serve anymore, Palin becomes president and we have an inexperienced leader. Maniacc1

I find it ironic that John McCain has continued to attack Obama's "lack of experience," but yet picks a govenor that has been serving for less than two years and is younger than Obama.

Good one, John. ;)

Maniacc1

Its a shameless attempt to sweep up Hilary supporters disenchanted with Obama -- and to appear progressive (in a conservative kind of way) and young. Pure PR; pure marketing.

Weak if you ask me.

Pure PR; pure marketing.MeanQuestion

Pure... election?

Sarah Palin has a retard baby. Her genes are inferior. :lol:

SirSnafflepuss

I don't believe you.

[QUOTE="litewo"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="litewo"]Her experience dealing with (or even having an opinion on) things outside these narrow Alaskan issues is nonexistent. Theokhoth

You mean like energy, abortion, capital punishment and gay marriage?

I was thinking more along the lines of foreign policy, immigration, national economy and health care. Her energy policies in Alaska only serve to highlight the divide between Alaskan politics and National politics. She's completely unfit for the national stage.

Health Care.

Economy.

Foreign policy is granted.

Energy.

Seriously, your posts scream "propaganda.":roll:

That information is alarmingly slim. You do this girl no favors by showing how many issues she has not been engaged with.

And to anyone who says Obama has little experience, too, all I have to say is WE ARE SUPPOSED OT BE BETTER THAN OBAMA. Picking someone who shares Obama's flaws was the worst mistake McCain could have made. He passed over some great men just to add some estrogen appeal to his ticket.

[QUOTE="Maniacc1"]

I find it ironic that John McCain has continued to attack Obama's "lack of experience," but yet picks a govenor that has been serving for less than two years and is younger than Obama.

Good one, John. ;)

famicommander

LMFAO, she was mayor of Wasilla in Alaska.... guess wot population size it has...??? 6000 max!!!!! LOL, i could be mayor of a small town like that... this VP choice is awful, mccain should have chosen some1 like rice or lieberman; john mccain has either gone cazy or has over estimated the amount of people angry over hilary not getting VP. democratic women won't come running over to the republicans, shes pro-life, the one thing every hilary supporter isnt. god dammit it feels as though mccain has clicked the self destruct button.

LMFAO, she was mayor of Wasilla in Alaska.... guess wot population size it has...??? 6000 max!!!!! LOL, i could be mayor of a small town like that... this VP choice is awful, mccain should have chosen some1 like rice or lieberman; john mccain has either gone cazy or has over estimated the amount of people angry over hilary not getting VP. democratic women won't come running over to the republicans, shes pro-life, the one thing every hilary supporter isnt. god dammit it feels as though mccain has clicked the self destruct button.

roryrc

Its a shameless attempt to sweep up Hilary supporters disenchanted with Obama -- and to appear progressive (in a conservative kind of way) and young. Pure PR; pure marketing.

Weak if you ask me.

MeanQuestion

Indeed, and I feel sorry for anyone who cannot see it. The GOP has the audacity to bash Obama for "not being experienced," yet this former beauty queen, hockey mom, 2 year governor of a state that has the population of Austin, Texas is some how a wise choice to be second in command of the most powerful nation on the planet, and only a heart beat away from being the next president, should something happen to a 72 year old McCain? Yes, that makes perfect sense.:lol:

When was the last time she talked to and stared down any leaders of other countries....including unfriendly ones, such as Putin and Medvedev of Russia? Oh, that's right, she never has. Yet she is more experienced than Obama, right? Do not make me puke. You actually think she stands a chance when debating Joe Biden?:P Boy, I sure cannot wait to see the first of those debates. Maybe she can tell us a story of how she baked some brownies for some disgruntled members of her local PTA, in order to diplomatically resolve an issue that occured at a meeting between the parents and teachers, lol.

Yep, the mommy and the mummy, now that is change that you can wear depends on, and if they get elected, you will be changing them a lot.....if you can afford them that is. Count on it. You only need to look at the tragic situation this country is in, and realize that it was the REPUBLICANS who got us here. Then ask yourself logically if it is wise to give them 4 more years after what has happned during the past 8?

Only if you are a millionaire, maybe I can understand why you would vote McCain, considering all the tax breaks you would be getting. But, if you are middle class or poor, then you are just asking for more pain, if you vote McCain. The pitiful housing market, collapsing economy, rising record high unemployment rates, skyrocketing fuel and food prices, tax breaks for those that already have it made, and a 9.5 trillion dollar debt is the only clue you should really need. But, hey, who cares about all that anyway? He is a war hero in another war that we LOST, and he just picked a former beauty queen, who is a true conservative that is against abortion and is a lifetime member of the National Rifle Association. I also hear she hunts moose as well, so all those other issues go out the window automatically on that note, lol.

Paul Begala: "When you're 72 and you have had four bouts with cancer, you ought to choose a qualified VP.".

so very true. anyone else hate Leslie Sanchez???

[QUOTE="MeanQuestion"]

Its a shameless attempt to sweep up Hilary supporters disenchanted with Obama -- and to appear progressive (in a conservative kind of way) and young. Pure PR; pure marketing.

Weak if you ask me.

ironcreed

Indeed, and I feel sorry for anyone who cannot see it. The GOP has the audacity to bash Obama for "not being experienced," yet this former beauty queen, hockey mom, 2 year governor of a state that has the population of Austin, Texas is some how a wise choice to be second in command of the most powerful nation on the planet, and only a heart beat away from being the next president, should something happen to a 72 year old McCain? Yes, that makes perfect sense.:lol:

When was the last time she talked to and stared down any leaders of other countries....including unfriendly ones, such as Putin and Medvedev of Russia? Oh, that's right, she never has. Yet she is more experienced than Obama, right? Do not make me puke. You actually think she stands a chance when debating Joe Biden?:P Boy, I sure cannot wait to see the first of those debates. Maybe she can tell us a story of how she baked some brownies for some disgruntled members of her local PTA, in order to diplomatically resolve an issue that occured at a meeting between the parents and teachers, lol.

Yep, the mommy and the mummy, now that is change that you can wear depends on, and if they get elected, you will be changing them a lot.....if you can afford them that is. Count on it. You only need to look at the tragic situation this country is in, and realize that it was the REPUBLICANS who got us here. Then ask yourself logically if it is wise to give them 4 more years after what has happned during the past 8?

Only if you are a millionaire, maybe I can understand why you would vote McCain, considering all the tax breaks you would be getting. But, if you are middle class or poor, then you are just asking for more pain, if you vote McCain. The pitiful housing market, collapsing economy, rising record high unemployment rates, skyrocketing fuel and food prices, tax breaks for those that already have it made, and a 9.5 trillion dollar debt is the only clue you should really need. But, hey, who cares about all that anyway? He is a war hero in another war that we LOST, and he just picked a former beauty queen, who is a true conservative that is against abortion and is a lifetime member of the National Rifle Association. I also hear she hunts moose as well, so all those other issues go out the window automatically on that note, lol.

i lol'd :lol: I seriously dont see how people can praise this. McCain only starting talking to her last night according to ABC News and everyone makes it seem ALASKA is a challenge compare to say NewYork or Cali. This is bad for McCain. Hes getting hype now but that will die in the coming weeks while Obama will continue to carry the momentum. I still think he picked her literally the last minute to sweep up Hilary supporters. I said this before and ill say it again, I have a feeling she will drop the race before November.

[QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="MeanQuestion"]

Its a shameless attempt to sweep up Hilary supporters disenchanted with Obama -- and to appear progressive (in a conservative kind of way) and young. Pure PR; pure marketing.

Weak if you ask me.

Tjeremiah1988

Indeed, and I feel sorry for anyone who cannot see it. The GOP has the audacity to bash Obama for "not being experienced," yet this former beauty queen, hockey mom, 2 year governor of a state that has the population of Austin, Texas is some how a wise choice to be second in command of the most powerful nation on the planet, and only a heart beat away from being the next president, should something happen to a 72 year old McCain? Yes, that makes perfect sense.:lol:

When was the last time she talked to and stared down any leaders of other countries....including unfriendly ones, such as Putin and Medvedev of Russia? Oh, that's right, she never has. Yet she is more experienced than Obama, right? Do not make me puke. You actually think she stands a chance when debating Joe Biden?:P Boy, I sure cannot wait to see the first of those debates. Maybe she can tell us a story of how she baked some brownies for some disgruntled members of her local PTA, in order to diplomatically resolve an issue that occured at a meeting between the parents and teachers, lol.

Yep, the mommy and the mummy, now that is change that you can wear depends on, and if they get elected, you will be changing them a lot.....if you can afford them that is. Count on it. You only need to look at the tragic situation this country is in, and realize that it was the REPUBLICANS who got us here. Then ask yourself logically if it is wise to give them 4 more years after what has happned during the past 8?

Only if you are a millionaire, maybe I can understand why you would vote McCain, considering all the tax breaks you would be getting. But, if you are middle class or poor, then you are just asking for more pain, if you vote McCain. The pitiful housing market, collapsing economy, rising record high unemployment rates, skyrocketing fuel and food prices, tax breaks for those that already have it made, and a 9.5 trillion dollar debt is the only clue you should really need. But, hey, who cares about all that anyway? He is a war hero in another war that we LOST, and he just picked a former beauty queen, who is a true conservative that is against abortion and is a lifetime member of the National Rifle Association. I also hear she hunts moose as well, so all those other issues go out the window automatically on that note, lol.

i lol'd :lol: I seriously dont see how people can praise this. McCain only starting talking to her last night according to ABC News and everyone makes it seem ALASKA is a challenge compare to say NewYork or Cali. This is bad for McCain. Hes getting hype now but that will die in the coming weeks while Obama will continue to carry the momentum. I still think he picked her literally the last minute to sweep up Hilary supporters. I said this before and ill say it again, I have a feeling she will drop the race before November.

I stopped reading after that... :|

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="MeanQuestion"]

Its a shameless attempt to sweep up Hilary supporters disenchanted with Obama -- and to appear progressive (in a conservative kind of way) and young. Pure PR; pure marketing.

Weak if you ask me.

battlefront23

Indeed, and I feel sorry for anyone who cannot see it. The GOP has the audacity to bash Obama for "not being experienced," yet this former beauty queen, hockey mom, 2 year governor of a state that has the population of Austin, Texas is some how a wise choice to be second in command of the most powerful nation on the planet, and only a heart beat away from being the next president, should something happen to a 72 year old McCain? Yes, that makes perfect sense.:lol:

When was the last time she talked to and stared down any leaders of other countries....including unfriendly ones, such as Putin and Medvedev of Russia? Oh, that's right, she never has. Yet she is more experienced than Obama, right? Do not make me puke. You actually think she stands a chance when debating Joe Biden?:P Boy, I sure cannot wait to see the first of those debates. Maybe she can tell us a story of how she baked some brownies for some disgruntled members of her local PTA, in order to diplomatically resolve an issue that occured at a meeting between the parents and teachers, lol.

Yep, the mommy and the mummy, now that is change that you can wear depends on, and if they get elected, you will be changing them a lot.....if you can afford them that is. Count on it. You only need to look at the tragic situation this country is in, and realize that it was the REPUBLICANS who got us here. Then ask yourself logically if it is wise to give them 4 more years after what has happned during the past 8?

Only if you are a millionaire, maybe I can understand why you would vote McCain, considering all the tax breaks you would be getting. But, if you are middle class or poor, then you are just asking for more pain, if you vote McCain. The pitiful housing market, collapsing economy, rising record high unemployment rates, skyrocketing fuel and food prices, tax breaks for those that already have it made, and a 9.5 trillion dollar debt is the only clue you should really need. But, hey, who cares about all that anyway? He is a war hero in another war that we LOST, and he just picked a former beauty queen, who is a true conservative that is against abortion and is a lifetime member of the National Rifle Association. I also hear she hunts moose as well, so all those other issues go out the window automatically on that note, lol.

i lol'd :lol: I seriously dont see how people can praise this. McCain only starting talking to her last night according to ABC News and everyone makes it seem ALASKA is a challenge compare to say NewYork or Cali. This is bad for McCain. Hes getting hype now but that will die in the coming weeks while Obama will continue to carry the momentum. I still think he picked her literally the last minute to sweep up Hilary supporters. I said this before and ill say it again, I have a feeling she will drop the race before November.

I stopped reading after that... :|

whats wrong with ABC News? If I was to provide a link or someone else, will you still make that face?

Smartest move he has made in months.LukeAF24

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="MeanQuestion"]

Its a shameless attempt to sweep up Hilary supporters disenchanted with Obama -- and to appear progressive (in a conservative kind of way) and young. Pure PR; pure marketing.

Weak if you ask me.

Tjeremiah1988

Indeed, and I feel sorry for anyone who cannot see it. The GOP has the audacity to bash Obama for "not being experienced," yet this former beauty queen, hockey mom, 2 year governor of a state that has the population of Austin, Texas is some how a wise choice to be second in command of the most powerful nation on the planet, and only a heart beat away from being the next president, should something happen to a 72 year old McCain? Yes, that makes perfect sense.:lol:

When was the last time she talked to and stared down any leaders of other countries....including unfriendly ones, such as Putin and Medvedev of Russia? Oh, that's right, she never has. Yet she is more experienced than Obama, right? Do not make me puke. You actually think she stands a chance when debating Joe Biden?:P Boy, I sure cannot wait to see the first of those debates. Maybe she can tell us a story of how she baked some brownies for some disgruntled members of her local PTA, in order to diplomatically resolve an issue that occured at a meeting between the parents and teachers, lol.

Yep, the mommy and the mummy, now that is change that you can wear depends on, and if they get elected, you will be changing them a lot.....if you can afford them that is. Count on it. You only need to look at the tragic situation this country is in, and realize that it was the REPUBLICANS who got us here. Then ask yourself logically if it is wise to give them 4 more years after what has happned during the past 8?

Only if you are a millionaire, maybe I can understand why you would vote McCain, considering all the tax breaks you would be getting. But, if you are middle class or poor, then you are just asking for more pain, if you vote McCain. The pitiful housing market, collapsing economy, rising record high unemployment rates, skyrocketing fuel and food prices, tax breaks for those that already have it made, and a 9.5 trillion dollar debt is the only clue you should really need. But, hey, who cares about all that anyway? He is a war hero in another war that we LOST, and he just picked a former beauty queen, who is a true conservative that is against abortion and is a lifetime member of the National Rifle Association. I also hear she hunts moose as well, so all those other issues go out the window automatically on that note, lol.

i lol'd :lol: I seriously dont see how people can praise this. McCain only starting talking to her last night according to ABC News and everyone makes it seem ALASKA is a challenge compare to say NewYork or Cali. This is bad for McCain. Hes getting hype now but that will die in the coming weeks while Obama will continue to carry the momentum. I still think he picked her literally the last minute to sweep up Hilary supporters. I said this before and ill say it again, I have a feeling she will drop the race before November.

I stopped reading after that... :|

whats wrong with ABC News? If I was to provide a link or someone else, will you still make that face?

Everything. They have a former member of Clinton's administration as one of their main analysts. I will never trust them.

and everyone makes it seem ALASKA is a challenge compare to say NewYork or CaliTjeremiah1988

It is. Running New York or Cali is no different from running Vermont. The only difference is scale. Alaska on the other hand, has a geography and demographics unlike any other state. It's no stretch to suggest the uniqueness of the state leads to unique challenges for its chief executive.

Everything. They have a former member of Clinton's administration as one of their main analysts. I will never trust them. battlefront23

Uh, dude... every news network hires former administration officials.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]Everything. They have a former member of Clinton's administration as one of their main analysts. I will never trust them. Oleg_Huzwog

Uh, dude... every news network hires former administration officials.

I know. But he's always the guy they go to. And if you think ABC isn't biased, you're crazy. (I'm not referring to you I'm referring to everyone)

I dont think this is a good pick. McCain is old. He might croke in office(if he wins) and if he does I dont want an inexperienced governer taking the position as president.honkyjoe

I dont think this is a good pick. McCain is old. He might croke in office(if he wins) and if he does I dont want an inexperienced governer taking the position as president.honkyjoe

A governor wouldn't be taking the position. A vice president would be. You are aware that most Presidents keep their veeps in the loop, right?

[QUOTE="honkyjoe"]I dont think this is a good pick. McCain is old. He might croke in office(if he wins) and if he does I dont want an inexperienced governer taking the position as president.helium_flash

And unlike Palin (if McCain dies or is removed from office), Obama isn't going to gain any more experience before being sworn in.

I dont think this is a good pick. McCain is old. He might croke in office(if he wins) and if he does I dont want an inexperienced governer taking the position as president.honkyjoe

[QUOTE="honkyjoe"]I dont think this is a good pick. McCain is old. He might croke in office(if he wins) and if he does I dont want an inexperienced governer taking the position as president.helium_flash

Only if you are a millionaire, maybe I can understand why you would vote McCain, considering all the tax breaks you would be getting. But, if you are middle class or poor, then you are just asking for more pain, if you vote McCain. The pitiful housing market, collapsing economy, rising record high unemployment rates, skyrocketing fuel and food prices, tax breaks for those that already have it made, and a 9.5 trillion dollar debt is the only clue you should really need.

ironcreed

Record unemployment :lol::lol:

And please tell me, what is Obama going to do about any of those things?

This woman has even less experience than Obama and is younger so that argument has been seriously weakened. People are going to be asking, "If you think Obama is inexperienced then why pick someone with less experience to be your VP?"

This is also a woman that disagrees with McCain on a ton of issues, she doesn't believe in global warming like McCain does and wants to drill in ANWAR which McCain doesn't. She's also under investigation for allegedly having a police officer fired for personal reasons.

A bad choice, IMO. She's also someone I completely disagree with on everything (except abortion) but that doesn't matter at all, I'm not American.

Record unemployment :lol::lol:

And please tell me, what is Obama going to do about any of those things?

limpbizkit818

Well, the idea is implementing policies that help to improve things. Presidents have done that before... what to you want to know specifically?

This woman has even less experience than Obama and is younger so that argument has been seriously weakened. People are going to be asking, "If you think Obama is inexperienced then why pick someone with less experience to be your VP?"

This is also a woman that disagrees with McCain on a ton of issues, she doesn't believe in global warming like McCain does and wants to drill in ANWAR which McCain doesn't. She's also under investigation for allegedly having a police officer fired for personal reasons.

A bad choice, IMO. She's also someone I completely disagree with on everything (except abortion) but that doesn't matter at all, I'm not American.

Master_Hermes

[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

Record unemployment :lol::lol:

And please tell me, what is Obama going to do about any of those things?

Engrish_Major

Well, the idea is implementing policies that help to improve things. Presidents have done that before... what to you want to know specifically?

What Obama is going to do to fix the issues that ironcreed feels will get worse under McCain.