I know lots of jerks that are from my own ethnic group. I don't think of them as being a jerk because they are of my group. I just think they are jerks. But when someone of another group acts like a jerk, people often make the assumption that they are acting that way because they are of a specific ethnic group and not just an individual.sonicare

Wait, are you telling me that a third of all YouTube comments are bogus?

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

The people doing the beating deserve to get murdered by firing squad in front of their family and friends, and it was probably something small and petty that got those black girls riled up (not to be racist, but a lot of black women seem to overexaggerate things and get angry over hardly anthing).

Nibroc420

I've plenty of white women do that too. And men.

God, I'm so tired of people generalizing black folks on this forum. It's seem like some people just can't help themselves.

Also, anytime someone says "not to be racist," you know what's coming next.

tranny walks into mcdonalds womans bathroom and gets conrfonted by two black girls.Problaly begins to talk **** to the two black girls and make fun of em most likely.MoetWitMedusa

It was better when people just danced in McDonalds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdvO0tmNjGo&feature=player_embedded

It was better when people just danced in McDonalds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdvO0tmNjGo&feature=player_embedded

[QUOTE="sonicare"]I know lots of jerks that are from my own ethnic group. I don't think of them as being a jerk because they are of my group. I just think they are jerks. But when someone of another group acts like a jerk, people often make the assumption that they are acting that way because they are of a specific ethnic group and not just an individual.Palantas

Wait, are you telling me that a third of all YouTube comments are bogus?

According to the guy (Vernon Hackett) who took the video, it was a man dressed as a woman who was beaten.

This was taken from his facebook page

Rusteater

that is odd

Damn. This is why we have executions. To bad my country doesnt allow them.

It was better when people just danced in McDonalds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdvO0tmNjGo&feature=player_embedded

[QUOTE="tocool340"]Geez, was it THAT serious? I'm glad they got caught cause we don't need hot heads like that on the streets. They just don't know how to back down. It would be interesting to see how they would fair against some drill surgeons at boot camp if they got angry at that girl for saying something so little...Symphonycometh

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="Symphonycometh"] *Eats the popcorn* To be racist (Man I'm such a jerk-a-lerk), in my experience, I've also noticed Black girls seemingly *try* to fill that stereotype....in mass. White girls do it too, but maaaaaaaan~ lolGreySeal9

I blame people who lack the ability to think of people as individuals.

I blame the people who perpetuate the stereotypes. Its pretty tough to not stereotype people when, in action, theyre essentially reinforcing it.

"No, not all black women are like that. That is just a lie"
*watches video of black girls beating up pregnant girl on bus*
"OK, but still, thats just one incident"
*watches video of black girls beating up another girl*
"Sigh...I give up."

Overall I agree with you, we are all individuals with our own actions, and those actions unfortunately fall into stereotypical actions (I am overweight, and once a month I like a good cheeseburger, thats a stereotypical fattie action, but that is not who I am because 28 days a month I eat healthy). But you cannot blame people at the same time for thinking "oh just more black girls being angry" anymore than I can blame others for thinking "Wow, that guy is too fat to be eating that"

There are, sadly, a lot of pessimists out there that simply assume the worst about people.

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

This happened in at a McDonald's in Baltimore and it was a woman that was attacked and is 22. Baltimore County McDonald's beating video goes viral details that hate crime charges are quite possible. The Blaze report states that the guys post is an odd claim taken from The Smoking Gun. A 14 year old girl has already been charged and charges are pending against an 18 year old woman.

themagicbum9720

i'm really glad to read that she is in fair condition. the two black girls should be charged with hate crimes. seriously, who beats someone to the point of them having a seizure for over using a public bathroom?

how is it a hate crime? A couple girls beat up another girl.

Calling it a hate crime is jumping to conclusions. If they said "Die, you stupid white girl" or "I hate white people" that'd be one thing, but honestly I dont think those girls are that stupid.

Its just a crime, not a hate crime.

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

You should really read the link to the Baltimore Sun instead of assuming that the Facebook poster/filmer was correct.

MoetWitMedusa

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-viral-video-mcdonalds-20110422,0,4613709.story

dude it was a tranny they already got all those tranny power groups condmening it as a hate crime.

They have since changed what was reported originally. In the original article, is did state that it was a 22 year old woman and the police reported it as such.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"] Let's blame the media, all black females in television and cinema are angry fat women who get super angry. mrbojangles25

I blame people who lack the ability to think of people as individuals.

I blame the people who perpetuate the stereotypes. Its pretty tough to not stereotype people when, in action, theyre essentially reinforcing it.

"No, not all black women are like that. That is just a lie"
*watches video of black girls beating up pregnant girl on bus*
"OK, but still, thats just one incident"
*watches video of black girls beating up another girl*
"Sigh...I give up."

Overall I agree with you, we are all individuals with our own actions, and those actions unfortunately fall into stereotypical actions (I am overweight, and once a month I like a good cheeseburger, thats a stereotypical fattie action, but that is not who I am because 28 days a month I eat healthy). But you cannot blame people at the same time for thinking "oh just more black girls being angry" anymore than I can blame others for thinking "Wow, that guy is too fat to be eating that"

There are, sadly, a lot of pessimists out there that simply assume the worst about people.

No, it's not tough to not stereotype. One simply has to uset heir brain and not ignore the fact that not all black girls are "angry" and that girls of other races get angry as well. If these people cannot use common sense and stop thinking in generalizations, then I can blame them.

And if a person watches a video and makes generalizations based on it, they don't have their critical thinking caps on.

The "fat" comparison is invalid because there is nothing linking blacks to "anger" the same way that food is linked with fatness. Alot of people get angry. However, I do think "he shouldn't be eating that because he's too fat" is a stupid idea though. Even overweight people can eat a cheeseburger once in awhile.

It's also ridiculous to think that everytime a black girls overreacts, she's re-inorfcing a stereotype. What happened to the idea that some people simply overreact? Why does it have to say anything about black girls?

I swear, people are downright addicted to generalizations and stereotypes. It's like some people simply can't forumlate thoughts without them (not talking about you of course) and can't refrain from making judgments on huge groups of people.

Found an article on ithttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1379691/Transgender-girl-beaten-seizure-McDonalds-attack-victim-hate-crime.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

"'It does appear that the victim was a transgender woman, and she was brutalized while people stood by and watched,' Lisa Polyak, vice president of the board of directors for Equality Maryland, told the Baltimore Sun.

The LGBT group is now calling on police to investigate the attack as a hate crime."

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"][QUOTE="idunnodude"]

that guy didnt do anything all he did was tell them to go away. sure u are risking ur safety but in that situation what safety? what kinda guy cant handle some teenage girls? all he had to do was stay near the white girl and push them away if they came after her. u dont have to hurt them. the only one i saw that took initiative and attempted to do something was the old lady, but at the same time she was the mostunable one in the whole room when it comes tophysically stopping them. she had bigger balls than anyone there, not to mentiona freakin heart.

idunnodude

well u can see from the video they werent armed. if they were why didnt they just use whatever arms they had on the white girl? yeah the manager was yelling but thats it. what he shouldve done was exactly what i said in my last post. all u gotta do is stay near the white chick and push the black chicks away when they come charging at her. and yeah they probably wouldve attacked him too, so what? hes a grown man and they're teenage girls. maybe if they did something they wouldnt have beat her to the point of seizure.

and yeah call me racist or whatever, but stereotypes arent there for no reason. they were formed cuz the majority of ppl act like that. its not like someone just randomly made up crap and everyone jumped on the bandwagon. theres a reason that those stereotypes exist.as for black chicks, ill admit that the majority of them i seen have been loud, abnoxious, disrespectful and so on. yeah obviously not all black chicks are like that, but a lot are. think about it, whenever u go on the bus and u see a bunch of rowdy teenagers being loud and ignorant and screaming out profanity and harrassing passengersits usually black chicks. and its not like im some old dude sayin like "oh these darn kids these days"and what not.hell im 19.ppl get so sensitive about this kinda stuff but im just being real. they act really rude and theres this constant feeling in society when u see black ppl that they act like they're better than everyone and as if everyone owes them something.

think of it what u want i know u guysr gonna getexcited to reply to this one and get all anti-racism on my asslol. im not black, buti know a lot of kool black ppl andhave many black friends. they call me the N word and i call them the N word too. and ud be surprised at how many agree with what im saying.

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"][QUOTE="idunnodude"]

that guy didnt do anything all he did was tell them to go away. sure u are risking ur safety but in that situation what safety? what kinda guy cant handle some teenage girls? all he had to do was stay near the white girl and push them away if they came after her. u dont have to hurt them. the only one i saw that took initiative and attempted to do something was the old lady, but at the same time she was the mostunable one in the whole room when it comes tophysically stopping them. she had bigger balls than anyone there, not to mentiona freakin heart.

idunnodude

well u can see from the video they werent armed. if they were why didnt they just use whatever arms they had on the white girl? yeah the manager was yelling but thats it. what he shouldve done was exactly what i said in my last post. all u gotta do is stay near the white chick and push the black chicks away when they come charging at her. and yeah they probably wouldve attacked him too, so what? hes a grown man and they're teenage girls. maybe if they did something they wouldnt have beat her to the point of seizure.

and yeah call me racist or whatever, but stereotypes arent there for no reason. they were formed cuz the majority of ppl act like that. its not like someone just randomly made up crap and everyone jumped on the bandwagon. theres a reason that those stereotypes exist.as for black chicks, ill admit that the majority of them i seen have been loud, abnoxious, disrespectful and so on. yeah obviously not all black chicks are like that, but a lot are. think about it, whenever u go on the bus and u see a bunch of rowdy teenagers being loud and ignorant and screaming out profanity and harrassing passengersits usually black chicks. and its not like im some old dude sayin like "oh these darn kids these days"and what not.hell im 19.ppl get so sensitive about this kinda stuff but im just being real. they act really rude and theres this constant feeling in society when u see black ppl that they act like they're better than everyone and as if everyone owes them something.

think of it what u want i know u guysr gonna getexcited to reply to this one and get all anti-racism on my asslol. im not black, buti know a lot of kool black ppl andhave many black friends. they call me the N word and i call them the N word too. and ud be surprised at how many agree with what im saying.

Why do people think they can spout off a whole bunch of racism (and yes, you are spouting racsm) and think saying "oh, I have black friends" makes it all not racist?

You haven't met the majority of black girls, so you cannot make a valid opinion on what the majority of black girls are like.

As far as most rowdy teenagers being black girls, I don't believe you've observed that for a second. Teenagers of all races act rowdy all time. The fact that you single out black girls is very telling,

Also, why don't you prove that black people think they're better thane everyone? Prove that black people think they're owned something. Prove all this racist BS you're spouting.

Also, just because some people agree with you doesn't mean you're not spouting ignorant nonsense (which you are).

[QUOTE="idunnodude"]

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"] How do you know they weren't armed? How would he have known... The police were called... When I re-watch this video I see the manager yelling stop and trying to break up the fight with them getting increasingly more violent... He goes to get their things and they keep charging back... He and another guy go to try and stop them... What was he supposed to do? They beat her to the point of seizure and you think they wouldn't have attacked him too? jeremiah06

well u can see from the video they werent armed. if they were why didnt they just use whatever arms they had on the white girl? yeah the manager was yelling but thats it. what he shouldve done was exactly what i said in my last post. all u gotta do is stay near the white chick and push the black chicks away when they come charging at her. and yeah they probably wouldve attacked him too, so what? hes a grown man and they're teenage girls. maybe if they did something they wouldnt have beat her to the point of seizure.

and yeah call me racist or whatever, but stereotypes arent there for no reason. they were formed cuz the majority of ppl act like that. its not like someone just randomly made up crap and everyone jumped on the bandwagon. theres a reason that those stereotypes exist.as for black chicks, ill admit that the majority of them i seen have been loud, abnoxious, disrespectful and so on. yeah obviously not all black chicks are like that, but a lot are. think about it, whenever u go on the bus and u see a bunch of rowdy teenagers being loud and ignorant and screaming out profanity and harrassing passengersits usually black chicks. and its not like im some old dude sayin like "oh these darn kids these days"and what not.hell im 19.ppl get so sensitive about this kinda stuff but im just being real. they act really rude and theres this constant feeling in society when u see black ppl that they act like they're better than everyone and as if everyone owes them something.

think of it what u want i know u guysr gonna getexcited to reply to this one and get all anti-racism on my asslol. im not black, buti know a lot of kool black ppl andhave many black friends. they call me the N word and i call them the N word too. and ud be surprised at how many agree with what im saying.

I bet if I made similar comments about white people thinking they're better than everyone else, that poster that just posted all the racist garbage would bristle.

And there would probably get more people calling me out as well.

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"][QUOTE="idunnodude"]

well u can see from the video they werent armed. if they were why didnt they just use whatever arms they had on the white girl? yeah the manager was yelling but thats it. what he shouldve done was exactly what i said in my last post. all u gotta do is stay near the white chick and push the black chicks away when they come charging at her. and yeah they probably wouldve attacked him too, so what? hes a grown man and they're teenage girls. maybe if they did something they wouldnt have beat her to the point of seizure.

and yeah call me racist or whatever, but stereotypes arent there for no reason. they were formed cuz the majority of ppl act like that. its not like someone just randomly made up crap and everyone jumped on the bandwagon. theres a reason that those stereotypes exist.as for black chicks, ill admit that the majority of them i seen have been loud, abnoxious, disrespectful and so on. yeah obviously not all black chicks are like that, but a lot are. think about it, whenever u go on the bus and u see a bunch of rowdy teenagers being loud and ignorant and screaming out profanity and harrassing passengersits usually black chicks. and its not like im some old dude sayin like "oh these darn kids these days"and what not.hell im 19.ppl get so sensitive about this kinda stuff but im just being real. they act really rude and theres this constant feeling in society when u see black ppl that they act like they're better than everyone and as if everyone owes them something.

think of it what u want i know u guysr gonna getexcited to reply to this one and get all anti-racism on my asslol. im not black, buti know a lot of kool black ppl andhave many black friends. they call me the N word and i call them the N word too. and ud be surprised at how many agree with what im saying.

GreySeal9

I bet if I made similar comments about white people thinking they're better than everyone else, that poster that just posted all the racist garbage would bristle.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"] OK where is all of this racist stuff coming from? I never said anything about race... Also it's not possible to tell if someone has a razor blade on them just by looking... Maybe they were trying to drag her outside so they could cut her away from the camera... The point is beyond calling the police he had nothing to do with that... It's not worth his safety to combat criminals and he darn sure isn't getting paid enough to do so... Since you brought it up I'll comment on the race... It's not about them being black it's about the urban environment then grew up in... You could take a random white girl from the same lifestyle and they'd be just as rowdy... Those black women are crazy = observation, All black women are crazy = racist... It's really not a difficult concept to grasp...jeremiah06

I bet if I made similar comments about white people thinking they're better than everyone else, that poster that just posted all the racist garbage would bristle.

He was probably wanting to make those remarks for a long time.

I fully expect some people to start trying to legitimize his comments, though I'd love to be proved wrong.

I also notice that when people want to say racist stuff, they'll hide behind the same basic phrases:

1) "People are too sensitive." This phrase is designed to make the people that call them out on their BS look like they're simply overreacting.

2) "I have [insert race] friends and some of them agree with me!"

3) "This is just what I've observed!" As ifthey actually have the scope of experience to actually legitimize racist comments (Plus, I don't even believe people when they say crap like that; I think they are having a case of selective memory where they remember all the rowdy black people and forget all the non-rowdy ones).

4) "You guys are too politically correct!" As if political incorrectness lends some kind of legitimacy to racist comments.

5) "I didn't say all, just most!" As if they somehow have met the majority of whatever people they are generalizing. :roll:

People need to really start looking at people as individuals.

[QUOTE="weezyfb"]just another fightsonicare

I completely agree with this.

On a related note, I hate when people say stuff like "so and so makes the black race look bad."

I'm thinking that there must be something wrong with society if the actions of individuals make a whole race look bad. That problem, is of course, that people have a weird need to think of people as if they are walking representatives of a race rather than individual people with individual personalites and upbringings.

5) "I didn't say all, just most!" As if they somehow have met the majority of whatever people they are generalizing. :roll:GreySeal9

[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"][QUOTE="tocool340"]Geez, was it THAT serious? I'm glad they got caught cause we don't need hot heads like that on the streets. They just don't know how to back down. It would be interesting to see how they would fair against some drill surgeons at boot camp if they got angry at that girl for saying something so little...tocool340

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"] OK where is all of this racist stuff coming from? I never said anything about race... Also it's not possible to tell if someone has a razor blade on them just by looking... Maybe they were trying to drag her outside so they could cut her away from the camera... The point is beyond calling the police he had nothing to do with that... It's not worth his safety to combat criminals and he darn sure isn't getting paid enough to do so... Since you brought it up I'll comment on the race... It's not about them being black it's about the urban environment then grew up in... You could take a random white girl from the same lifestyle and they'd be just as rowdy... Those black women are crazy = observation, All black women are crazy = racist... It's really not a difficult concept to grasp...jeremiah06

I bet if I made similar comments about white people thinking they're better than everyone else, that poster that just posted all the racist garbage would bristle.

only the first paragraph was directed at u. the stuff about the race i just added in cuz everyone else was talkin about it. and no i wasnt waiting to say that stuff lol what the hell. i knew that would get u guys all excited and stuff. and im not white either so i dont know what that comment was about lol. i say these things like i have a lot of black friends and stuff to give examples man. all black women arent crazy lol i never said that.

u guys always try to sound so smart with ur sarcasm but all u do is dodge what i said by saying "oh just because black ppl agree with u doesnt make it true" and "i dont beleive u for a second" and "ur just hiding behind phrases" and"u havent met the majority of black girls so u cant make an opinion", and u have?. of coursei havent met the majority of black girls, how the hell do u meet that many black girls lol. i just saidthat i have met a lot, andthe majority are like that. i dont see how we're hiding behind phrases if they're true. ur saying that ppl dont get overly sensitive when talking about black ppl and race? ppl always have to watch their mouth cuz the slightest thing like saying "black" would be considered racist. (and yeah im exaggerating just b4 u say "oh all ppl who say black arent racist" lmao). i could just say ur hiding behind ur sarcasm.

and yeah ur environment and the way u grow up affects u but then u can just use that excuse for anything. what about the ppl who are from the same environment or same upbringing and they act civil? why should ppl have to cater to them and take their BS just cuz they grew up in a "bad" environment and they take their crap out on everyone else. i grew up in a bad environment too but u dont see me screaming at the top of my lungs in the back of a public bus. u call it racism i just call it being real.

but then again i know what ur gonna say. "oh ur racist", "not all black ppl are like that", "just because u do this and that doesnt mean its right" and all that same crap. and all im gonna say is the same crap ive been saying. stereotypes wouldnt be there if there wasnt a majority of truth to them. and yeah u say prove this prove that. if u really want me to prove it ill go google some statistics right now, but that would be a whole nother discussion.

I also notice that when people want to say racist stuff, they'll hide behind the same basic phrases:

1) "People are too sensitive." This phrase is designed to make the people that call them out on their BS look like they're simply overreacting.

2) "I have [insert race] friends and some of them agree with me!"

3) "This is just what I've observed!" As ifthey actually have the scope of experience to actually legitimize racist comments (Plus, I don't even believe people when they say crap like that; I think they are having a case of selective memory where they remember all the rowdy black people and forget all the non-rowdy ones).

4) "You guys are too politically correct!" As if political incorrectness lends some kind of legitimacy to racist comments.

5) "I didn't say all, just most!" As if they somehow have met the majority of whatever people they are generalizing. :roll:

People need to really start looking at people as individuals.

GreySeal9

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I bet if I made similar comments about white people thinking they're better than everyone else, that poster that just posted all the racist garbage would bristle.

idunnodude

only the first paragraph was directed at u. the stuff about the race i just added in cuz everyone else was talkin about it. and no i wasnt waiting to say that stuff lol what the hell. i knew that would get u guys all excited and stuff. and im not white either so i dont know what that comment was about lol. i say these things like i have a lot of black friends and stuff to give examples man. all black women arent crazy lol i never said that.

u guys always try to sound so smart with ur sarcasm but all u do is dodge what i said by saying "oh just because black ppl agree with u doesnt make it true" and "i dont beleive u for a second" and "ur just hiding behind phrases" and"u havent met the majority of black girls so u cant make an opinion", and u have?. of coursei havent met the majority of black girls, how the hell do u meet that many black girls lol. i just saidthat i have met a lot, andthe majority are like that. i dont see how we're hiding behind phrases if they're true. ur saying that ppl dont get overly sensitive when talking about black ppl and race? ppl always have to watch their mouth cuz the slightest thing like saying "black" would be considered racist. (and yeah im exaggerating just b4 u say "oh all ppl who say black arent racist" lmao). i could just say ur hiding behind ur sarcasm.

and yeah ur environment and the way u grow up affects u but then u can just use that excuse for anything. what about the ppl who are from the same environment or same upbringing and they act civil? why should ppl have to cater to them and take their BS just cuz they grew up in a "bad" environment and they take their crap out on everyone else. i grew up in a bad environment too but u dont see me screaming at the top of my lungs in the back of a public bus. u call it racism i just call it being real.

but then again i know what ur gonna say. "oh ur racist", "not all black ppl are like that", "just because u do this and that doesnt mean its right" and all that same crap. and all im gonna say is the same crap ive been saying. stereotypes wouldnt be there if there wasnt a majority of truth to them. and yeah u say prove this prove that. if u really want me to prove it ill go google some statistics right now, but that would be a whole nother discussion.

People need to really start looking at people as individuals.

GreySeal9

sometimes its a little difficult when the overwhelming majority of a demographic of individuals actively seeks to reinforce the stereotype that they claim as racist.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

People need to really start looking at people as individuals.

z4twenny

sometimes its a little difficult when the overwhelming majority of a demographic of individuals actively seeks to reinforce the stereotype that they claim as racist.

You haven't met the overwhelming majority of the demographic you are talking about.

Your claim is invalid.

[QUOTE="idunnodude"]

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"] Yeah... I don't even know where that came from our discussion had nothing to do with the race of the attackers or the victims...Symphonycometh

only the first paragraph was directed at u. the stuff about the race i just added in cuz everyone else was talkin about it. and no i wasnt waiting to say that stuff lol what the hell. i knew that would get u guys all excited and stuff. and im not white either so i dont know what that comment was about lol. i say these things like i have a lot of black friends and stuff to give examples man. all black women arent crazy lol i never said that.

u guys always try to sound so smart with ur sarcasm but all u do is dodge what i said by saying "oh just because black ppl agree with u doesnt make it true" and "i dont beleive u for a second" and "ur just hiding behind phrases" and"u havent met the majority of black girls so u cant make an opinion", and u have?. of coursei havent met the majority of black girls, how the hell do u meet that many black girls lol. i just saidthat i have met a lot, andthe majority are like that. i dont see how we're hiding behind phrases if they're true. ur saying that ppl dont get overly sensitive when talking about black ppl and race? ppl always have to watch their mouth cuz the slightest thing like saying "black" would be considered racist. (and yeah im exaggerating just b4 u say "oh all ppl who say black arent racist" lmao). i could just say ur hiding behind ur sarcasm.

and yeah ur environment and the way u grow up affects u but then u can just use that excuse for anything. what about the ppl who are from the same environment or same upbringing and they act civil? why should ppl have to cater to them and take their BS just cuz they grew up in a "bad" environment and they take their crap out on everyone else. i grew up in a bad environment too but u dont see me screaming at the top of my lungs in the back of a public bus. u call it racism i just call it being real.

but then again i know what ur gonna say. "oh ur racist", "not all black ppl are like that", "just because u do this and that doesnt mean its right" and all that same crap. and all im gonna say is the same crap ive been saying. stereotypes wouldnt be there if there wasnt a majority of truth to them. and yeah u say prove this prove that. if u really want me to prove it ill go google some statistics right now, but that would be a whole nother discussion.

Prove that black people have a tendency those negative behaviors.

If one can't prove that, the claim is invalid.

Generalizing black people in negative ways is racist whether you people want to admit it or not.

What if I said most white people are stuck up? What would you have to say to that?

[QUOTE="z4twenny"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

People need to really start looking at people as individuals.

GreySeal9

sometimes its a little difficult when the overwhelming majority of a demographic of individuals actively seeks to reinforce the stereotype that they claim as racist.

You haven't met the overwhelming majority of the demographic you are talking about.

Your claim is invalid.

[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"][QUOTE="idunnodude"]

only the first paragraph was directed at u. the stuff about the race i just added in cuz everyone else was talkin about it. and no i wasnt waiting to say that stuff lol what the hell. i knew that would get u guys all excited and stuff. and im not white either so i dont know what that comment was about lol. i say these things like i have a lot of black friends and stuff to give examples man. all black women arent crazy lol i never said that.

u guys always try to sound so smart with ur sarcasm but all u do is dodge what i said by saying "oh just because black ppl agree with u doesnt make it true" and "i dont beleive u for a second" and "ur just hiding behind phrases" and"u havent met the majority of black girls so u cant make an opinion", and u have?. of coursei havent met the majority of black girls, how the hell do u meet that many black girls lol. i just saidthat i have met a lot, andthe majority are like that. i dont see how we're hiding behind phrases if they're true. ur saying that ppl dont get overly sensitive when talking about black ppl and race? ppl always have to watch their mouth cuz the slightest thing like saying "black" would be considered racist. (and yeah im exaggerating just b4 u say "oh all ppl who say black arent racist" lmao). i could just say ur hiding behind ur sarcasm.

and yeah ur environment and the way u grow up affects u but then u can just use that excuse for anything. what about the ppl who are from the same environment or same upbringing and they act civil? why should ppl have to cater to them and take their BS just cuz they grew up in a "bad" environment and they take their crap out on everyone else. i grew up in a bad environment too but u dont see me screaming at the top of my lungs in the back of a public bus. u call it racism i just call it being real.

but then again i know what ur gonna say. "oh ur racist", "not all black ppl are like that", "just because u do this and that doesnt mean its right" and all that same crap. and all im gonna say is the same crap ive been saying. stereotypes wouldnt be there if there wasnt a majority of truth to them. and yeah u say prove this prove that. if u really want me to prove it ill go google some statistics right now, but that would be a whole nother discussion.

GreySeal9

Prove that black people have a tendency those negative behaviors.

If one can't prove that, the claim is invalid.

Generalizing black people in negative ways is racist whether you people want to admit it or not.

What if I said most white people are stuck up? What would you have to say to that?

[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"][QUOTE="idunnodude"]

only the first paragraph was directed at u. the stuff about the race i just added in cuz everyone else was talkin about it. and no i wasnt waiting to say that stuff lol what the hell. i knew that would get u guys all excited and stuff. and im not white either so i dont know what that comment was about lol. i say these things like i have a lot of black friends and stuff to give examples man. all black women arent crazy lol i never said that.

u guys always try to sound so smart with ur sarcasm but all u do is dodge what i said by saying "oh just because black ppl agree with u doesnt make it true" and "i dont beleive u for a second" and "ur just hiding behind phrases" and"u havent met the majority of black girls so u cant make an opinion", and u have?. of coursei havent met the majority of black girls, how the hell do u meet that many black girls lol. i just saidthat i have met a lot, andthe majority are like that. i dont see how we're hiding behind phrases if they're true. ur saying that ppl dont get overly sensitive when talking about black ppl and race? ppl always have to watch their mouth cuz the slightest thing like saying "black" would be considered racist. (and yeah im exaggerating just b4 u say "oh all ppl who say black arent racist" lmao). i could just say ur hiding behind ur sarcasm.

and yeah ur environment and the way u grow up affects u but then u can just use that excuse for anything. what about the ppl who are from the same environment or same upbringing and they act civil? why should ppl have to cater to them and take their BS just cuz they grew up in a "bad" environment and they take their crap out on everyone else. i grew up in a bad environment too but u dont see me screaming at the top of my lungs in the back of a public bus. u call it racism i just call it being real.

but then again i know what ur gonna say. "oh ur racist", "not all black ppl are like that", "just because u do this and that doesnt mean its right" and all that same crap. and all im gonna say is the same crap ive been saying. stereotypes wouldnt be there if there wasnt a majority of truth to them. and yeah u say prove this prove that. if u really want me to prove it ill go google some statistics right now, but that would be a whole nother discussion.

GreySeal9

Prove that black people have a tendency those negative behaviors.

If one can't prove that, the claim is invalid.

Generalizing black people in negative ways is racist whether you people want to admit it or not.

What if I said most white people are stuck up? What would you have to say to that?

lol see. u just keep saying the same crap over and over. u didnt even read what i wrote. prove this prove that, the only proof u can see is the crime rates and stuff like that, for their behaviours u gotta notice it forurself. if u want proof of the crime rates and stuff like that go google it.but if it will make u happy, yeah fine im a racist lol i call it like it is. i dont care enough to write all that crap over again.

u guys always try to sound so smart with ur sarcasm but all u do is dodge what i said by saying "oh just because black ppl agree with u doesnt make it true" and "i dont beleive u for a second" and "ur just hiding behind phrases" and"u havent met the majority of black girls so u cant make an opinion", and u have?.idunnodude

Trying to dodge what? You haven't made any point worth dodging. I think your observations are BS and heavily slanted.

of coursei havent met the majority of black girls, how the hell do u meet that many black girls lol. i just saidthat i have met a lot, andthe majority are like that. i dont see how we're hiding behind phrases if they're true. ur saying that ppl dont get overly sensitive when talking about black ppl and race? ppl always have to watch their mouth cuz the slightest thing like saying "black" would be considered racist. (and yeah im exaggerating just b4 u say "oh all ppl who say black arent racist" lmao). i could just say ur hiding behind ur sarcasm.idunnodude

Get over the sarcasm. Seriously. Especially if you're going to accuse other people of being sensitive.

If you haven't met themajority of black girls, the why do you think that you can make sweeping generalizations about hem?

Again, you're trying this dishonest tactic oftrying to paint everybody who argues with your racistgarbage as too sensitive.I wouldn't consider anybody whouses the word "black" as racist. However, your garbage is racist. If you're too deep in that mindset to recognize that, that's not my problem.

and yeah ur environment and the way u grow up affects u but then u can just use that excuse for anything. what about the ppl who are from the same environment or same upbringing and they act civil? why should ppl have to cater to them and take their BS just cuz they grew up in a "bad" environment and they take their crap out on everyone else. i grew up in a bad environment too but u dont see me screaming at the top of my lungs in the back of a public bus. u call it racism i just call it being real.idunnodude

"Being real" is just a euphemsym for your racism. It's another one of those phrases that people hide behind.

Nobody has to have an excuse against your baseless generalizations.

If you were being "real", you'd look past stereotypes.

but then again i know what ur gonna say. "oh ur racist", "not all black ppl are like that", "just because u do this and that doesnt mean its right" and all that same crap. and all im gonna say is the same crap ive been saying. stereotypes wouldnt be there if there wasnt a majority of truth to them. and yeah u say prove this prove that. if u really want me to prove it ill go google some statistics right now, but that would be a whole nother discussion.

idunnodude

Stereotypes are simplistic and dont look at the whole picture. Some of them are not true at all.

But I understand why someone like you would want to cling to them.

You have a need to see black people a certain way, so you will cling to them.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"] Don't mind too much. At the going rate, everyone on this thread will be racist. Black, White, Asian, or God~ ^_^ (lol, actually, I can see that now: "Your race has a tendency to do this negative behavior." "YOU HEAR THAT? GOD IS RACIST! HE'S NOT LOOKING AT THE INDIVIDUAL!")idunnodude

Prove that black people have a tendency those negative behaviors.

If one can't prove that, the claim is invalid.

Generalizing black people in negative ways is racist whether you people want to admit it or not.

What if I said most white people are stuck up? What would you have to say to that?

lol see. u just keep saying the same crap over and over. u didnt even read what i wrote. prove this prove that, the only proof u can see is the crime rates and stuff like that, for their behaviours u gotta notice it forurself. if u want proof of the crime rates and stuff like that go google it.but if it will make u happy, yeah fine im a racist lol i call it like it is. i dont care enough to write all that crap over again.

I'm saying the same stuff because you're saying the same sutff over and over.

Crime rates is not proof o anything. If you think it is, you need to takea critical thinking class.

But if you had taken one, you might not be saying any of this stuff.

As for the behaviors, I've been around tons of black folks as I am half black. Just like any other race, there are nice black folks,mean ones, loud ones quiet ones, etc.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"] Don't mind too much. At the going rate, everyone on this thread will be racist. Black, White, Asian, or God~ ^_^ (lol, actually, I can see that now: "Your race has a tendency to do this negative behavior." "YOU HEAR THAT? GOD IS RACIST! HE'S NOT LOOKING AT THE INDIVIDUAL!")Symphonycometh

Prove that black people have a tendency those negative behaviors.

If one can't prove that, the claim is invalid.

Generalizing black people in negative ways is racist whether you people want to admit it or not.

What if I said most white people are stuck up? What would you have to say to that?

If you provide me proof that most black people act the way you say, I would, but you're not going to find that because it doesn't exist.

Crime rate doesnot prove your point. It says more about socio-economics than black people. If you think it says something about black people, you don't have your critical thinking hat on.

I mean, do you think there's something inherent in black people that make them act a certain way? If so, care to provide a link?

[QUOTE="idunnodude"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Prove that black people have a tendency those negative behaviors.

If one can't prove that, the claim is invalid.

Generalizing black people in negative ways is racist whether you people want to admit it or not.

What if I said most white people are stuck up? What would you have to say to that?

GreySeal9

lol see. u just keep saying the same crap over and over. u didnt even read what i wrote. prove this prove that, the only proof u can see is the crime rates and stuff like that, for their behaviours u gotta notice it forurself. if u want proof of the crime rates and stuff like that go google it.but if it will make u happy, yeah fine im a racist lol i call it like it is. i dont care enough to write all that crap over again.

I'm saying the same stuff because you're saying the same sutff over and over.

Crime rates is not proof o anything. If you think it is, you need to takea critical thinking class.

But if you had taken one, you might not be saying any of this stuff.

As for the behaviors, I've been around tons of black folks as I am half black. Just like any other race, there are nice black folks,mean ones, loud ones quiet ones, etc.

I really can't believe that people are acting like I'm the unreasonable one for shooting down blatant and in some case, racist,generalizations.

I mean, what if I said that most white people are stuck up or something like that? Would it be valid?

I really can't believe that people are acting like I'm the unreasonable one for shooting down blatant and in some case, racist,generalizations.

I mean, what if I said that most white people are stuck up or something like that? Would it be valid?

GreySeal9

If you can provide some proof, yeah...

I really can't believe that people are acting like I'm the unreasonable one for shooting down blatant and in some case, racist,generalizations.

I mean, what if I said that most white people are stuck up or something like that? Would it be valid?

GreySeal9

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="idunnodude"]

lol see. u just keep saying the same crap over and over. u didnt even read what i wrote. prove this prove that, the only proof u can see is the crime rates and stuff like that, for their behaviours u gotta notice it forurself. if u want proof of the crime rates and stuff like that go google it.but if it will make u happy, yeah fine im a racist lol i call it like it is. i dont care enough to write all that crap over again.

HNNNGH

I'm saying the same stuff because you're saying the same sutff over and over.

Crime rates is not proof o anything. If you think it is, you need to takea critical thinking class.

But if you had taken one, you might not be saying any of this stuff.

As for the behaviors, I've been around tons of black folks as I am half black. Just like any other race, there are nice black folks,mean ones, loud ones quiet ones, etc.

A higher crime rate points to socio-economic factors. It doesn't say anything about black pople inherently.

Wow, you're sure trying hard to cling to negative stereotypes, foregoing all critical thought.Why is that? Why do feel the need to portray black folks this way?

I really can't believe that people are acting like I'm the unreasonable one for shooting down blatant and in some case, racist,generalizations.

I mean, what if I said that most white people are stuck up or something like that? Would it be valid?

GreySeal9

[QUOTE="HNNNGH"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I'm saying the same stuff because you're saying the same sutff over and over.

Crime rates is not proof o anything. If you think it is, you need to takea critical thinking class.

But if you had taken one, you might not be saying any of this stuff.

As for the behaviors, I've been around tons of black folks as I am half black. Just like any other race, there are nice black folks,mean ones, loud ones quiet ones, etc.

GreySeal9

A higher crime rate points to socio-economic factors. It doesn't say anything about black pople inherently.

Wow, you're sure trying hard to cling to negative stereotypes, foregoing all critical thought.Why is that? Why do feel the need to portray black folks this way?

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I really can't believe that people are acting like I'm the unreasonable one for shooting down blatant and in some case, racist,generalizations.

I mean, what if I said that most white people are stuck up or something like that? Would it be valid?

imaps3fanboy

There are alot of stuck people in general. Whiteness has nothing to do with it.

And also, I would have no way of supporting the claim that "most white people" are stuck up. Really, I wouldhave no way of making that observation.

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I really can't believe that people are acting like I'm the unreasonable one for shooting down blatant and in some case, racist,generalizations.

I mean, what if I said that most white people are stuck up or something like that? Would it be valid?

GreySeal9

There are alot of stuck people in general. Whiteness has nothing to do with it.

And also, I would have no way of supporting the claim that "most white people" are stuck up. Really, I wouldhave no way of making that observation.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I really can't believe that people are acting like I'm the unreasonable one for shooting down blatant and in some case, racist,generalizations.

I mean, what if I said that most white people are stuck up or something like that? Would it be valid?

HNNNGH

And the people trying to act like black people have certain behaviors would have to define those in a testable way either. "Crime rate" does not define those in a testable way. Crime rate has more to do with socio-economic factors.

My point is obvious. The generalizations being made in this thread are no better and no more tangible than the one I made.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] There are definitely a lot of stuck up white people. imaps3fanboy

There are alot of stuck people in general. Whiteness has nothing to do with it.

And also, I would have no way of supporting the claim that "most white people" are stuck up. Really, I wouldhave no way of making that observation.

Of course you don't because you're not interested in looking beyond stereotypes.

People like stereotypes because they are "easy".