Movement on recreational marijuana legalization in California

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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"] The legalization of any product usually comes down to health and well being.dsmccracken

if it gets passed, then it's about time. Anyone who knows even the slightest bit about marijuana knows that there isn't a good reason for it to be illegal right now. this is good newsmohfrontline

Its is highly addictive drug that will definitely kill you at least 20 years before you are supposed to die if you take it on a daily basis for all of your life... Is that a good enough reason for you?

Govenators, heavy pollution, and crazy people are some of the few reasons why california is such a piece of garbage.

is anyone a fan of that song dr. greenthumb by cypress hill? i sing it now and it reminds me of a chick i met in the hospital. "hello i am dr. greenthumb... i would like to tell you just where i'm from..." :D

[QUOTE="mohfrontline"]if it gets passed, then it's about time. Anyone who knows even the slightest bit about marijuana knows that there isn't a good reason for it to be illegal right now. this is good newspeaceoutmedusa

Its is highly addictive drug that will definitely kill you 20 years before you are supposed to die if you take it on a daily basis for all of your life.

Is that a good reason for it to be illegal???

Govenators, heavy pollution,and crazy people are the reason why california is a suchpiece of garbage.

is anyone a fan of that song dr. greenthumb by cypress hill? i sing it now and it reminds me of a chick i met in the hospital. "hello i am dr. greenthumb... i would like to tell you just where i'm from..." :D

zarkon9

I would only have a problem with it if people were smoking it in public, because I absolutely hate the smell of it. Not sure which smell I hate more though cigarette smoke or cannabis smoke, both smell equally bad.

I have no problem with people smoking it at home in privacy, but don't think it would be great seeing it publicly.

That and when entering college towns, you would instantly get a contact high :P I kid... really though :|

[QUOTE="mohfrontline"]if it gets passed, then it's about time. Anyone who knows even the slightest bit about marijuana knows that there isn't a good reason for it to be illegal right now. this is good newspeaceoutmedusa

Its is highly addictive drug that will definitely kill you at least 20 years before you are supposed to die if you take it on a daily basis for all of your life... Is that a good enough reason for you?

Govenators, heavy pollution, and crazy people are some of the few reasons why california is such a piece of garbage.

i think youre assuming the rest of California is like Los Angelas. Its not.

if it gets passed, then it's about time. Anyone who knows even the slightest bit about marijuana knows that there isn't a good reason for it to be illegal right now. this is good newsmohfrontline

Its is highly addictive drug that will definitely kill you 20 years before you are supposed to die if you take it on a daily basis for all of your life.

Is that a good reason for it to be illegal???

Govenators, heavy pollution,and crazy people are the reason why california is a suchpiece of garbage.

[QUOTE="peaceoutmedusa"]

if it gets passed, then it's about time. Anyone who knows even the slightest bit about marijuana knows that there isn't a good reason for it to be illegal right now. this is good newsmohfrontline

Its is highly addictive drug that will definitely kill you at least 20 years before you are supposed to die if you take it on a daily basis for all of your life... Is that a good enough reason for you?

Govenators, heavy pollution, and crazy people are some of the few reasons why california is such a piece of garbage.

i think youre assuming the rest of California is like Los Angelas. Its not.

[QUOTE="mohfrontline"][QUOTE="peaceoutmedusa"]

Its is highly addictive drug that will definitely kill you 20 years before you are supposed to die if you take it on a daily basis for all of your life.

Is that a good reason for it to be illegal???

Govenators, heavy pollution,and crazy people are the reason why california is a suchpiece of garbage.

peaceoutmedusa

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is anyone a fan of that song dr. greenthumb by cypress hill? i sing it now and it reminds me of a chick i met in the hospital. "hello i am dr. greenthumb... i would like to tell you just where i'm from..." :D

needled24-7

cypress hill were known back in their hey day for marijuana use. they could have been the figure heads of marijuana use in music during the 90s. i like only way the most... one of their less popular tracks.

pro-choice. smoke in your home freely without the government on your case twenty four seven. many people must do this already, however. but the government should back off. marijuana, cannabis oil, hemp... they are not perfect drugs after everything i have said despite what alcohol and tobacco are like. end of input from me on this.

My advice don't do it, it caused me to get psychosis. it is a terrible experience. If you can handle, thinking your parents are aliens, demons, trying to kill you, saying about grabbing you by your balls and dragging you across the floor. When you believe you can mind read everyone and they are all saying nasty things about you. Thinking cameras are always watching you, talking to a tin of chocolate, constant thoughts of suicide, wanting to get out of this hell..

My advice don't do it, it caused me to get psychosis. it is a terrible experience. If you can handle, thinking your parents are aliens, demons, trying to kill you, saying about grabbing you by your balls and dragging you across the floor. When you believe you can mind read everyone and they are all saying nasty things about you. Thinking cameras are always watching you, talking to a tin of chocolate, constant thoughts of suicide, wanting to get out of this hell..

caribo2222

Majority of people against it haven't done their research and most likely are misinformed.Brainkiller05

My advice don't do it, it caused me to get psychosis. it is a terrible experience. If you can handle, thinking your parents are aliens, demons, trying to kill you, saying about grabbing you by your balls and dragging you across the floor. When you believe you can mind read everyone and they are all saying nasty things about you. Thinking cameras are always watching you, talking to a tin of chocolate, constant thoughts of suicide, wanting to get out of this hell..

caribo2222

i know what that is like because of not marijuana. but because of having an abusive father, being in prison then throughout most of that a woman that ends up hating you because of what you have become and probably did not love you anyway. or had a ****en strange way of showing it. jesus... actually... she told me the other day herself that she never loved me! omg?

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My advice don't do it, it caused me to get psychosis. it is a terrible experience. If you can handle, thinking your parents are aliens, demons, trying to kill you, saying about grabbing you by your balls and dragging you across the floor. When you believe you can mind read everyone and they are all saying nasty things about you. Thinking cameras are always watching you, talking to a tin of chocolate, constant thoughts of suicide, wanting to get out of this hell..

xaos

I would hope so, seeing a psychiactric nurse every week, taking antipsychotics with terrible side effects. I say imo it's not worth it, stick to alochol.

[QUOTE="mohfrontline"][QUOTE="peaceoutmedusa"]

Its is highly addictive drug that will definitely kill you 20 years before you are supposed to die if you take it on a daily basis for all of your life.

Is that a good reason for it to be illegal???

Govenators, heavy pollution,and crazy people are the reason why california is a suchpiece of garbage.

peaceoutmedusa

1. It is not addictive. It is habit forming.

Tobacco is addictive and habit forming
Chocolate is habit forming
Alcohol is addictive and habit forming
Heroin is addictive

2. No, it will not greatly hinder your life. I know surgeons that got through UC Berkeley and med school while smoking pot. As with all things, it comes down to moderation. Food, TV, time spent posting on Gamespot...all are safe...in moderation

3. Marijuana itself does not kill. If you inhale smoke of anykind, you will get lung cancer. Hmmm what else is legal that causes lung cancer as a result of smoke. Hmmm let me think...oh yea, TOBACCO!

In short, people like you think humanity is weak. You want to make us even weaker by banning any minor substance that can be construed as harmful.

The fact is, marijuana is relatively harmless compared to everything we do on a daily basis. Youre more likely to die or kill someone on your commute to work than to die from marijuana

All durgs should only be availablefrom a doctor only. If you don't have medical training you don't know what you are doing to your self .

All durgs should only be availablefrom a doctor only. If you don't have medical training you don't know what you are doing to your self .

dontshackzmii

[QUOTE="matricide01"]I am disgusted that so many people are in favor of legalizing a substance that has been proven to be more harmful than alcohol and tobacco. And I still don't think there are any real non-smokers who support legalization. The ones that say they do are lying and I can tell because they don't provide a strong-enough reason for supporting legalization. Also, non-smokers need to realize that they are hated by pot smokers. Thanks to liberals, non-smokers are quickly becoming obsolete because they want to turn everyone into a drug addict. Instead of allowing people to smoke weed legally, a more humane solution would be to legalize killing people who smoke it. Pot smokers are a bunch of unsuccessful leeches on society. Anyone who could call themself a non-smoker would agree.xaos

He failed from the get go. I'm a recreational smoker who goes to school part time and works full time :lol:. Guess I'm a leech..

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[QUOTE="xaos"] Wow, you are pretty insane. This non-smoker supports legalization because I see no reason for criminalization; given that I see no reason for it to be illegal, I think that legal status is the sensible default position.matricide01

He failed from the get go. I'm a recreational smoker who goes to school part time and works full time :lol:. Guess I'm a leech..

I am disgusted that so many people are in favor of legalizing a substance that has been proven to be more harmful than alcohol and tobacco. And I still don't think there are any real non-smokers who support legalization. The ones that say they do are lying and I can tell because they don't provide a strong-enough reason for supporting legalization. Also, non-smokers need to realize that they are hated by pot smokers. Thanks to liberals, non-smokers are quickly becoming obsolete because they want to turn everyone into a drug addict. Instead of allowing people to smoke weed legally, a more humane solution would be to legalize killing people who smoke it. Pot smokers are a bunch of unsuccessful leeches on society. Anyone who could call themself a non-smoker would agree.matricide01

you can not be serious. that is not humane. i even suspect you do it yourself. you probably lit up the moment after you submitted that message.

It's legal if you have a card. My step dad had one.

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For personal use. The courts did not believe that however. BTW, it happened when his neighbor called the cops because he heard "loud music". The cop showed up to my cousins house, but the music wasn't even from his place. They could smell the weed, arrested him, and tore his house up to find it. No small baggies, no large amounts of money, just a pound of reggies and a crappy electric scale. Life in prison.

Pixel-Pirate

life in prison? i do not believe you. that is totally out of kilter. i mean, that is ****en crazy!

Indeed. I have never heard of someone getting life in prison for marijuana posession, even with intent to distribute. Theres either foul play going on, this didn't happen, or theres more to this then what is being told.

To explain: my cousinChet had a record: it was his third strike, as they say. The other two arrests were for possession of marjiuana/mushrooms/acid, no violent crimes(he had never even been in a fight to my knowledge). Also, he did get Intent to Distribute marjiuana, resisting arrest andassaulting an officer(he struggled a littlewhen they cuffed him, and loged an elbow in a cops stomach on accident).

Is it just me or are these arguements always filled with extremes? Theres generally 90% of people saying Marijuana is the perfect drug that will turn your house to gold, has never harmed anyone, and has no side effects what so ever, and then theres the 10% saying it will kill you and your family and turn you into Hitler.

Both of these extremes are very silly.

It's legal if you have a card. My step dad had one.

Gaming-Planet

I did read a case of someone with a card for medical marijuana who was assaulted by the cops anyway for having marijuana and then arrested even though he had the card.

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life in prison? i do not believe you. that is totally out of kilter. i mean, that is ****en crazy!

heysharpshooter

Indeed. I have never heard of someone getting life in prison for marijuana posession, even with intent to distribute. Theres either foul play going on, this didn't happen, or theres more to this then what is being told.

To explain: my cousinChet had a record: it was his third strike, as they say. The other two arrests were for possession of marjiuana/mushrooms/acid, no violent crimes(he had never even been in a fight to my knowledge). Also, he did get Intent to Distribute marjiuana, resisting arrest andassaulting an officer(he struggled a littlewhen they cuffed him, and loged an elbow in a cops stomach on accident).

life in prison? no way hosay. that is unbelievable. and in the states? if i ever end up in a cell soon he will be in my thoughts. that must have happened in a socialist country?

*puts up shield for imminent flaming*

Is it just me or are these arguements always filled with extremes? Theres generally 90% of people saying Marijuana is the perfect drug that will turn your house to gold, has never harmed anyone, and has no side effects what so ever, and then theres the 10% saying it will kill you and your family and turn you into Hitler.

Both of these extremes are very silly.

Pixel-Pirate

i have a vivid memory of this one guy i used to know in high school. he tried to gently persuade me and a friend to try marijuana. but he pointed out to us that he did not do it often. i do not know what my reasons were actually, but i did resent that at that time.

some others i happened to not know well used to ask me sarcastically "what my poison was...". i was known to be anti-drug in high school and everyone seemed to somehow know about that.

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[QUOTE="zarkon9"]

life in prison? i do not believe you. that is totally out of kilter. i mean, that is ****en crazy!

heysharpshooter

Indeed. I have never heard of someone getting life in prison for marijuana posession, even with intent to distribute. Theres either foul play going on, this didn't happen, or theres more to this then what is being told.

To explain: my cousinChet had a record: it was his third strike, as they say. The other two arrests were for possession of marjiuana/mushrooms/acid, no violent crimes(he had never even been in a fight to my knowledge). Also, he did get Intent to Distribute marjiuana, resisting arrest andassaulting an officer(he struggled a littlewhen they cuffed him, and loged an elbow in a cops stomach on accident).

Whatever...It won't change much for most people. The common user will do it either way, and the only people that stand to benefit from it is the state and people who get caught. Its about 10x easier for me to get a dub than it is for me to get a 12 pack of beer (well maybe not me but high schoolers).

Oh, and somehow I think my post came off as negative for legalization I think. I am all for legalization, but what I am afraid of is that cannabis will go the way of cigs. Mass produced garbage

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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Indeed. I have never heard of someone getting life in prison for marijuana posession, even with intent to distribute. Theres either foul play going on, this didn't happen, or theres more to this then what is being told.

zarkon9

To explain: my cousinChet had a record: it was his third strike, as they say. The other two arrests were for possession of marjiuana/mushrooms/acid, no violent crimes(he had never even been in a fight to my knowledge). Also, he did get Intent to Distribute marjiuana, resisting arrest andassaulting an officer(he struggled a littlewhen they cuffed him, and loged an elbow in a cops stomach on accident).

life in prison? no way hosay. that is unbelievable. and in the states? if i ever end up in a cell soon he will be in my thoughts. that must have happened in a socialist country?

*puts up shield for imminent flaming*

Three Strike laws are not uncommon. The first strike is relatively light, the second is harsh, and the third is life. And I really have no sympathy for people who sell the stuff.

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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Indeed. I have never heard of someone getting life in prison for marijuana posession, even with intent to distribute. Theres either foul play going on, this didn't happen, or theres more to this then what is being told.

Stanley09

To explain: my cousinChet had a record: it was his third strike, as they say. The other two arrests were for possession of marjiuana/mushrooms/acid, no violent crimes(he had never even been in a fight to my knowledge). Also, he did get Intent to Distribute marjiuana, resisting arrest andassaulting an officer(he struggled a littlewhen they cuffed him, and loged an elbow in a cops stomach on accident).

to what extent? one hundred percent legal? there is nothing stopping someone smoking in their own home but with the government watching them like a hawk. there is nothing stopping someone even smoking a joint (on the move would be ideal so you do not get caught) in a public place despite the law that is in place in california and here. do it at your own risk. i would.

why have a law that includes particularly the stipulation that you cannot even smoke it in your own home if it is almost impossible to enforce by either local police or the atf without search warrants?

Hmmm...well, it certainly won't cure our financial woes, but I think it could help. $50 tax per ounce seems pretty hefty, but I'm willing to bet recreational users would be okay with it :P

Is it just me or are these arguements always filled with extremes? Theres generally 90% of people saying Marijuana is the perfect drug that will turn your house to gold, has never harmed anyone, and has no side effects what so ever, and then theres the 10% saying it will kill you and your family and turn you into Hitler.

Both of these extremes are very silly.

Pixel-Pirate

Oh, and somehow I think my post came off as negative for legalization I think. I am all for legalization, but what I am afraid of is that cannabis will go the way of cigs. Mass produced garbage

warriordoc

give people the freedom to do it in their own homes without them being afraid the government is watching.

Im all for the legalization of Marijuana, and for people who don't know. -Marijuana does not cause lung cancer (no scientific studies have proof) -Marijuana does not kill Brain cellsShinoadr

Is it just me or are these arguements always filled with extremes? Theres generally 90% of people saying Marijuana is the perfect drug that will turn your house to gold, has never harmed anyone, and has no side effects what so ever, and then theres the 10% saying it will kill you and your family and turn you into Hitler.

Both of these extremes are very silly.

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Is it just me or are these arguements always filled with extremes? Theres generally 90% of people saying Marijuana is the perfect drug that will turn your house to gold, has never harmed anyone, and has no side effects what so ever, and then theres the 10% saying it will kill you and your family and turn you into Hitler.

Both of these extremes are very silly.

mattbbpl

yeah, but what is marijuana?

[QUOTE="Shinoadr"]Im all for the legalization of Marijuana, and for people who don't know. -Marijuana does not cause lung cancer (no scientific studies have proof) -Marijuana does not kill Brain cellsmattbbpl

That being said, if others want to destroy their own bodies more power to them. Who am I to say they aren't free to do so?

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="Hewkii"] hmm, yes, tell me more about how the answer is always in the middle. this absolutely does stimulate debate.zarkon9

yeah, but what is marijuana?

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="Shinoadr"]Im all for the legalization of Marijuana, and for people who don't know. -Marijuana does not cause lung cancer (no scientific studies have proof) -Marijuana does not kill Brain cellsneedled24-7

That being said, if others want to destroy their own bodies more power to them. Who am I to say they aren't free to do so?

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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"] I find it hard to believe that smoking anything doesn't increase the risk of lung cancer since smoke is generally filled with carcinogens.

That being said, if others want to destroy their own bodies more power to them. Who am I to say they aren't free to do so?mattbbpl