My Letter to Atheists

[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"][QUOTE="ohgodohman"]Don't patronise me, you obnoxious turd. You have no argument but a clumsy, copy-pasted rendition of the naive, trite 'HURR HOOMANS LOOK DESIGNED THEREFORE THEY ARE' routine; if you really believe that deserves a response, you're even more stupid than I thought.ohgodohman

Ancient history and especially western civilization classes are pretty eye opening to people that actually want to know more about how their religion came to exist and succeed. Hint: It's not because they were right.GrudHeap

There have been all types of wars, but when Christianity first started, hundreds of thousands of innocent people were part of the start of Christianity.

[QUOTE="ohgodohman"][QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]Why not attack my argument legitimately instead of denying it. Scientists DO say that things look created but are not. So don't gimme that. You've got to have something more than a personal attack on me individually.hadoken

ohgodohman's grammar beats yours.

[QUOTE="GrudHeap"]Ancient history and especially western civilization classes are pretty eye opening to people that actually want to know more about how their religion came to exist and succeed. Hint: It's not because they were right.gaming25

There have been all types of wars, but when Christianity first started, hundreds of thousands of innocent people were part of the start of Christianity.

[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"][QUOTE="ohgodohman"]Don't patronise me, you obnoxious turd. You have no argument but a clumsy, copy-pasted rendition of the naive, trite 'HURR HOOMANS LOOK DESIGNED THEREFORE THEY ARE' routine; if you really believe that deserves a response, you're even more stupid than I thought.ohgodohman

[QUOTE="GrudHeap"]Ancient history and especially western civilization classes are pretty eye opening to people that actually want to know more about how their religion came to exist and succeed. Hint: It's not because they were right.gaming25

There have been all types of wars, but when Christianity first started, hundreds of thousands of innocent people were part of the start of Christianity.

Atheism is starting to become popular one might say and might become even more popular. Does that mean atheism is correct?

Ancient history and especially western civilization classes are pretty eye opening to people that actually want to know more about how their religion came to exist and succeed. Hint: It's not because they were right.GrudHeap

There have been all types of wars, but when Christianity first started, hundreds of thousands of innocent people were part of the start of Christianity.

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"]:lol: I don't at all, I completely embrace all science. Oh, and guess what? I'm Catholic.ohgodohman

The people who treat science as a threat are ignorant.ChampionoChumps

Obvious alt is obvious.

I come back to see something that has been posted a hundred times before at the top of the board. The entirety of the OP is something I've personally replied to and countered numerous times over the past couple years. This isn't something "original" or "ground-breaking." Its the same typical theist response to the idea that other people just don't believe what they do. The line that stuck out the most for me was this: "Many people who choose not to follow any religion say that their reasoning is based on science, whether it be the big bang or evolution." Well, yeah, but there are also some religious people who choose to follow religion because of what they have discovered through science. Atheism is not synonymous with science, nor is religion synonymous with non-rational belief. Trying to generalize all atheists and all religionists under one umbrella just doesn't work, and its impossible to really address this issue on a broad basis. Everyone has a different reason for believing or not believing... and it is a case-by-case basis to determine their reasoning.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="KDmorethanGods"][QUOTE="gaming25"]

There have been all types of wars, but when Christianity first started, hundreds of thousands of innocent people were part of the start of Christianity.

gaming25

[QUOTE="ohgodohman"]shoot-first

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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="KDmorethanGods"]In the middle ages you were basically killed if you weren't christian, so you died or converted, naturally the numbers went up.realguitarhero5

I don't understand some things of the bible. Like how God created humans in 7 days (I can't remember well), or about the birth of Jesus? Seems like silly B.S. to me, and it's worse if OP seems to believe in that type of crap and says some excuses that we're wrong. Also, enjoy this song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk41Gbjljfo (stupid word editor won't let me link...)

[QUOTE="gaming25"]

Ancient history and especially western civilization classes are pretty eye opening to people that actually want to know more about how their religion came to exist and succeed. Hint: It's not because they were right.GrudHeap

There have been all types of wars, but when Christianity first started, hundreds of thousands of innocent people were part of the start of Christianity.

Atheism is starting to become popular one might say and might become even more popular. Does that mean atheism is correct?

[QUOTE="shoot-first"]

[QUOTE="ohgodohman"]Teenaged

Obvious alt is obvious.

[QUOTE="gaming25"]

There have been all types of wars, but when Christianity first started, hundreds of thousands of innocent people were part of the start of Christianity.

Atheism is starting to become popular one might say and might become even more popular. Does that mean atheism is correct?

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"]

There have been all types of wars, but when Christianity first started, hundreds of thousands of innocent people were part of the start of Christianity.

gaming25

Atheism is starting to become popular one might say and might become even more popular. Does that mean atheism is correct?

He just said that the reason of its existence isnt its supposed validity.

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[QUOTE="ohgodohman"]Teenaged

Obvious alt is obvious.

It's just funny to me how these threads always start swarming with alts. :P

I don't understand some things of the bible. Like how God created humans in 7 days (I can't remember well), or about the birth of Jesus? Seems like silly B.S. to me, and it's worse if OP seems to believe in that type of crap and says some excuses that we're wrong. Dgalmun

Since he is God, then he can do miricles such as those.

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[QUOTE="shoot-first"]

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Last-Origin

Catch 2 alts, get 4 cool points!

Some seem to think that just because they have been longer here, they are more "worthy" than low-level alts/bandodgers.

[QUOTE="Last-Origin"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Oh look at all the OT_detectives.

Teenaged

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Some seem to think that just because they have been longer here, they are more "worthy" than low-level alts/bandodgers.

Yeah... right. :roll:

There are many other reasons why Christianity is correct. gaming25

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[QUOTE="shoot-first"]

Obvious alt is obvious.

shoot-first

It's just funny to me how these threads always start swarming with alts. :P

And sometimes they're delightful.

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Ok it was popular. So?

Atheism is starting to become popular one might say and might become even more popular. Does that mean atheism is correct?

Frame_Dragger

Even there is disagreement. We still worship The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. That is what connects us, whether right or wrong about certain issues.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Last-Origin"] They try too hard.shoot-first

Catch 2 alts, get 4 cool points!

Some seem to think that just because they have been longer here, they are more "worthy" than low-level alts/bandodgers.

Yeah... right. :roll:

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="gaming25"] There are many other reasons why Christianity is correct. He also asked how it came to exist.gaming25

Even there is disagreement. We still worship The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. That is what connects us, whether right or wrong about certain issues.

[QUOTE="gaming25"]There are many other reasons why Christianity is correct. foxhound_fox

What does it mean for religion, virtually all of which (including Christianity) have sects which fundamentally disagree with each, to be "correct"?Frame_Dragger

Even there is disagreement. We still worship The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. That is what connects us, whether right or wrong about certain issues.

[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"] I responded to what he said in the way I did to shed light on one of the main reason why Christianity has existed.Frame_Dragger

I mean seriously, I agree with gaming25.

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="gaming25"]

Even there is disagreement. We still worship The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. That is what connects us, whether right or wrong about certain issues.

gaming25

I didn't ask what connected you, I asked how something which is contradictory can be contradictory AND correct. You described one set of common beliefs... that's a dodge.

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]You have such a creative username :P

realguitarhero5

Not an attack, still fallacious.

[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"][QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] Look up, "ad hominem" and "red herring" under logical fallacies.Frame_Dragger

Not an attack, still fallacious.

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[QUOTE="gaming25"] I meant I probably wouldnt send them to hell.gaming25

and yet you believe in blindly that the whole non-believer/heaven/hell issue will all makes sense because of God's devine knowledge, just like the hundreds of thousands out there who use that as an excuse for their deity. That's the excuse for every religion.

Imagine if he went against your current stance on the issue of not sending them to hell. He'll make everyone who doesn't believe burn slowly and painfully in hell and that would be that. Is devine knowledge going to be good enough for you then?

When you say "he" do you mean God? I dont think that he would send people automatically to hell if someone doesnt believes. Whatever he chooses to do, will be perfect, and will be the right decision. He is the CREATOR of everything.

Yes I mean God.

Just to clarify though, If God chooses to let non-believers burn slowly and painfully in the depths of hell for an infinite amount of time you would be perfectly fine with that? A simple yes or no answer is all I'm looking for. A one wordanswer.

Sure. But I dont know if someone will believe because of what I say. But prohphecies, the themes of the Bible and the way it was written, the love of God, and many other things as well.gaming25

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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]It has become some sort of witch-hunt in OT.

Catch 2 alts, get 4 cool points!

Some seem to think that just because they have been longer here, they are more "worthy" than low-level alts/bandodgers.

Teenaged

Yeah... right. :roll:

I wasn't trying to "catch" anybody or gain any "points." With my extensive mod history, I'm not going to become a mod anytime soon nor do I want to become one. Sometimes I just like to put them alts on the spot because I know what they're doing. Me on the other hand, am not afraid to get a little dirt on my account. When I'm banned, I'm banned. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

Hmm? Not an attack I thought it was funny. If it was an attack I would not have smiled and stuck my tongue out.realguitarhero5

Not an attack, still fallacious.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="shoot-first"]

Yeah... right. :roll:

I wasn't trying to "catch" anybody or gain any "points." With my extensive mod history, I'm not going to become a mod anytime soon nor do I want to become one. Sometimes I just like to put them alts on the spot because I know what they're doing. Me on the other hand, am not afraid to get a little dirt on my account. When I'm banned, I'm banned. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

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[QUOTE="shoot-first"]

Yeah... right. :roll:

shoot-first

I wasn't trying to "catch" anybody or gain any "points." With my extensive mod history, I'm not going to become a mod anytime soon nor do I want to become one. Sometimes I just like to put them alts on the spot because I know what they're doing. Me on the other hand, am not afraid to get a little dirt on my account. When I'm banned, I'm banned. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

What are they doing?

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] That is a dodge. Frame_Dragger

I didn't ask what connected you, I asked how something which is contradictory can be contradictory AND correct. You described one set of common beliefs... that's a dodge.

If it is about whichChristiangroup isright about something, then sure there is only a correct answer, but I was trying to make the point that it is our faith in God that makes us connected despite disagreements.

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[QUOTE="gaming25"] I responded to what he said in the way I did to shed light on one of the main reason why Christianity has existed.Frame_Dragger

Not that I agree with anything he has said in this thread, but a statement isn't an ad hominem unless it's used to support an argument.

[QUOTE="shoot-first"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Dont know if this applies to you since I havent seen you much lately but it definitely applies to many others. Especially users who follow the ToU religiously in hopes they will become mods.

Teenaged

I wasn't trying to "catch" anybody or gain any "points." With my extensive mod history, I'm not going to become a mod anytime soon nor do I want to become one. Sometimes I just like to put them alts on the spot because I know what they're doing. Me on the other hand, am not afraid to get a little dirt on my account. When I'm banned, I'm banned. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

What are they doing?

Fapping to the rage of their intended targets.

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]You have such a creative username :P

Not that I agree with anything he has said in this thread, but a statement isn't an ad hominem unless it's used to support an argument.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="shoot-first"]

I wasn't trying to "catch" anybody or gain any "points." With my extensive mod history, I'm not going to become a mod anytime soon nor do I want to become one. Sometimes I just like to put them alts on the spot because I know what they're doing. Me on the other hand, am not afraid to get a little dirt on my account. When I'm banned, I'm banned. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

shoot-first

What are they doing?

Fapping to the rage of their intended targets.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="shoot-first"]

I wasn't trying to "catch" anybody or gain any "points." With my extensive mod history, I'm not going to become a mod anytime soon nor do I want to become one. Sometimes I just like to put them alts on the spot because I know what they're doing. Me on the other hand, am not afraid to get a little dirt on my account. When I'm banned, I'm banned. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

What are they doing?

Fapping to the rage of their intended targets.