My mom keeps putting christian stuff in my room...and im not christian

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Well let me start off by saying im 18 and im an atheist. I was brought up christian and even a few weeks ago i was forced to go to church. For a while now i have been trying to take a cross that was hanging above my bedroom door and any other religious things out because i dont believe it so to me its a waste of space and is extremely annoying to have in my room. A few months ago i got new shelves and a new desk for my room and i put all the junk in a box including some rosary beads and apparently there was a bible on the shelf. As long as everythiing stayed in the box it wasnt much of a problem because i recognied it as the "junk box".

Today when i was at uni my mom thought it would be nice to clean the box out, well i guess it was good but what she did with some of the stuff in the box has me furious. When i arrived home from uni i noticed the junk box was no longer in my room and i immediately checked a drawer that she had put stuff in before and i noticed a box of rosary beads and some random toy so i took them out and tried to find another place for them but i couldnt find a place for the rosary beads cos my junk box was gone. A few hours later my mom told me she put a bible on my bedhead thing that has some other books on it and at this point in time i was really tired from a long day at uni and this just really made me so mad. I have a bad temper and i get irritated easily, and there is just no reasoning with my mom she is just horrible. She keeps threatening to disconnect my pc, and probably my tv with my games on it too, in my room if i get rid of the junk that she put in my room. If i cant have my room looks how i want it how am i supposed to relax and feel comfortable at all, i dont think i can sleep with that bible next to me because it is so frustrating.

Im not sure if she knows im atheist but i think she suspects it as it came up in conversation before but i think she tries to deny it by forcing me go to church and have that junk in my room. How does she force me you ask well by threatening to disconnect stuff and make me even more depressed and hateful.

Does anyone have any advice on how to make my mom see reason and let me remove the christian junk she puts in it?

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i suppose its her house and she can do what she like. but id go mental if my mum was trying to shove religion down my throat. i would make sure i blasphemed everyday just to annoy her as much as she was annoying me. and move out

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One...talk with her. Two....you're 18. If you don't like living there...move.
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Explain that your faith is not the same as hers, and dont do it in an arguementative way, be grown up about it or she wont take you seriously at all.

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Well let me start off by saying im 18 and im an atheist. I was brought up christian and even a few weeks ago i was forced to go to church. For a while now i have been trying to take a cross that was hanging above my bedroom door and any other religious things out because i dont believe it so to me its a waste of space and is extremely annoying to have in my room. A few months ago i got new shelves and a new desk for my room and i put all the junk in a box including some rosary beads and apparently there was a bible on the shelf. As long as everythiing stayed in the box it wasnt much of a problem because i recognied it as the "junk box".

Today when i was at uni my mom thought it would be nice to clean the box out, well i guess it was good but what she did with some of the stuff in the box has me furious. When i arrived home from uni i noticed the junk box was no longer in my room and i immediately checked a drawer that she had put stuff in before and i noticed a box of rosary beads and some random toy so i took them out and tried to find another place for them but i couldnt find a place for the rosary beads cos my junk box was gone. A few hours later my mom told me she put a bible on my bedhead thing that has some other books on it and at this point in time i was really tired from a long day at uni and this just really made me so mad. I have a bad temper and i get irritated easily, and there is just no reasoning with my mom she is just horrible. She keeps threatening to disconnect my pc, and probably my tv with my games on it too, in my room if i get rid of the junk that she put in my room. If i cant have my room looks how i want it how am i supposed to relax and feel comfortable at all, i dont think i can sleep with that bible next to me because it is so frustrating.

Im not sure if she knows im atheist but i think she suspects it as it came up in conversation before but i think she tries to deny it by forcing me go to church and have that junk in my room. How does she force me you ask well by threatening to disconnect stuff and make me even more depressed and hateful.

Does anyone have any advice on how to make my mom see reason and let me remove the christian junk she puts in it?

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You live under her roof? If you do it doesn't matter WHAT your mom says. She is helping you out while you go to school. She could, if she wanted to, just kick your heathen ass out OR make you pay rent.;) I say be a little more grateful and a lot more patient.

If having a bible and a cross in your room will make her happy and keep you connected to the interweb, I say it's a small price to pay. That doesn't mean that she expects you to become a choirboy or to go to school for ministry. It won't change your views on the matter, it will just apease your mom. Also, she's still your mom and she just doesn't want you to burn in hell. I think that's sweet.

I had a similar experience with religious family members. It's just not worth the effort to have a passive-agressive tug-o-war over religion.

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Simply invert the cross on your door. When your mom tries to put it back upright, say in a stern voice "No! that's the wrong way to put it!".

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Very fair points made there.

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One...talk with her. Two....you're 18. If you don't like living there...move.LJS9502_basic

Talking with her will probably end up making her trying to make me christian even more than she already does and i would move out if i had enough money and maybe a job... i heard the cemetery has some cheap resting places

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Simply invert the cross on your door. When your mom tries to put it back upright, say in a stern voice "No! that's the wrong way to put it!".

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One...talk with her. Two....you're 18. If you don't like living there...move.LJS9502_basic
This sounds like a good idea. Just when you speak to her, I recommend to not refer to it as "Christian junk." :P
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]One...talk with her. Two....you're 18. If you don't like living there...move.CUDCUD

Talking with her will probably end up making her trying to make me christian even more than she already does and i would move out if i had enough money and maybe a job... i heard the cemetery has some cheap resting places

It's her house dude. Either you accept her living conditions or get your own. It really is that simple.
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"Mum, could you please not place your religious paraphenalia around my room? I find it incredibly offensive to my philosophical and religious beliefs. I understand that you would rather I lead a Christian lifestyle, but it just isn't for me. However, I will still be respectful of your ornaments around the home and of your own beliefs, and I expect to be treated in the same way."

This could help.

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Tell her it's like having blood splattered on your walls ;)
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[QUOTE="freek666"]

"Mum, could you please not place your religious paraphenalia around my room? I find it incredibly offensive to my philosophical and religious beliefs. I understand that you would rather I lead a Christian lifestyle, but it just isn't for me. However, I will still be respectful of your ornaments around the home and of your own beliefs, and I expect to be treated in the same way."

This could help.

True, if you show nothing but disrespect for her faith, then why would she respect you for being atheist?
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[QUOTE="CUDCUD"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]One...talk with her. Two....you're 18. If you don't like living there...move.LJS9502_basic

Talking with her will probably end up making her trying to make me christian even more than she already does and i would move out if i had enough money and maybe a job... i heard the cemetery has some cheap resting places

It's her house dude. Either you accept her living conditions or get your own. It really is that simple.

Is it just me or does life suck ass, i mean really i just feel that i would rather be dead than living not just over this whole mom thing i just dont see the point to living. It would be simpler if i had money to get my own place oh yeah i have to work for that... yeah i know im sounding really lazy right now but i guess its a combination of depression and playing video games being my only hobby. I actually want a job but havent really applied that much anyway my brother has been working for years now and he is 20 and he doesnt have any plans of moving out anytime soon, maybe he doesnt want to but im pretty sure the main reason is financial.

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"Mum, could you please not place your religious paraphenalia around my room? I find it incredibly offensive to my philosophical and religious beliefs. I understand that you would rather I lead a Christian lifestyle, but it just isn't for me. However, I will still be respectful of your ornaments around the home and of your own beliefs, and I expect to be treated in the same way."

This could help.

freek666

Pretty good suggestion and i think it would be worth a shot with a reasonable person but im talking about my mom here.

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Explain that your faith is not the same as hers, and dont do it in an arguementative way, be grown up about it or she wont take you seriously at all.

pete_merlin

HA! Apparently you don't know very many religious people.

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[QUOTE="pete_merlin"]

Explain that your faith is not the same as hers, and dont do it in an arguementative way, be grown up about it or she wont take you seriously at all.

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HA! Apparently you don't know very many religious people.

Ironically......I feel that way about your post.
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Two can play at that game. Put stuff in her room, like a Dreidel on her shelf, and a Koran in her bedside table drawer.
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Time to draw some Pentagrams in her room.
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She's trying to guide you in the right way...
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Two can play at that game. Put stuff in her room, like a Dreidel on her shelf, and a Koran in her bedside table drawer.Engrish_Major

lol nice one but it wouldnt really solve anything

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She's trying to guide you in the right way...basia77


No, shes trying brainwash me like her parents did to her. Why are baptisms performed on babies that cant make a decision for themselves, because if they were old enough to make a decision there is a chance that they will choose an alternate or no religion and that isnt what christians want so they brainwash the children.

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If a bible or a rosemary bead means nothing to you, then why are you overreacting to it? Either you fear it or if you don't, then it shouldn't bother you. I could understand why your mom might try to get you to read the bible, but I don't think forcing people to believe is the right way. Just tell her that this is not going to help you and it would leave a bad impression on you.
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Simply invert the cross on your door. When your mom tries to put it back upright, say in a stern voice "No! that's the wrong way to put it!".

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If a bible or a rosemary bead means nothing to you, then why are you overreacting to it? Either you fear it or if you don't, then it shouldn't bother you. I could understand why your mom might try to get you to read the bible, but I don't think forcing people to believe is the right way. Just tell her that this is not going to help you and it would leave a bad impression on you. hiphops_savior

The stuff doesn't mean anything to me it just junk to me and i get annoyed pretty easily and having junk in my room that doesn't belong to me just irritates me its not like its against my beliefs to have it cos i dont have any beliefs. You cant reason with her and it already has left a bad impression on me if you didnt notice.

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lol you're 18 and being oppressed! move out
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[QUOTE="basia77"]She's trying to guide you in the right way...CUDCUD



No, shes trying brainwash me like her parents did to her. Why are baptisms performed on babies that cant make a decision for themselves, because if they were old enough to make a decision there is a chance that they will choose an alternate or no religion and that isnt what christians want so they brainwash the children.

Just ignore the stuff then. Baptism is literally just a guy putting some water on you and saying a few words. It has no legal, physical or non-physical implications. A bible is a book, rosary beads are just beads, a cross is a bit of wood. If you don't believe in this stuff, then like me you should just ignore it. I went to three Catholic schools, and while they're pretty much like normal schools and not the ones in American movies, I just learnt to ignore the masses and the prayers and the mention of Jesus in every school assembly, rather than get stressed out thinking they are trying to brainwash me.

Just relax and feel safe in the knowledge that nobody can ever force their faith upon you. You have your own mind.

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Buy her a copy of The God Delusion, and put it in her room.
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[QUOTE="basia77"]She's trying to guide you in the right way...CUDCUD



No, shes trying brainwash me like her parents did to her. Why are baptisms performed on babies that cant make a decision for themselves, because if they were old enough to make a decision there is a chance that they will choose an alternate or no religion and that isnt what christians want so they brainwash the children.

I agree with this %100, baptism as a baby is dumb. But you do know there are other forms of "Christians", what your describing is catholic. There's luthern, pentacostal, jehovahs witnesses, baptists and lots more, personally I am a pentacostal. Don't use the beliefs of one denomination, to disregard a whole religion

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One day i will actually know the difference between all those, Baptist, methodist etc.
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Get a new box and repeat the process.
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One day i will actually know the difference between all those, Baptist, methodist etc.X360PS3AMD05
i doubt they even know the difference
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You're 18. Just move out.
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Sorry TC, all of my suggestions involve knowing Latin and having a decent supply of blood on hand. It's her house, you have to accept it or move out. Talking to her about it is always an option, but I honestly can't see that working out well.
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Well it's your mom so there's no way of winning in an argument or applying logic. It would be best just to put up with it, most of it is easy enough to hide anyway and you could use the cross as a coat hook.
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Ah, my whole family is Buddhist, and I have to put up with stuff like that as well. Not that bad, really. Sure, I have this ornament over my door that "keeps the evil spirits out" that's more than out of place next to my Slayer and Iron Maiden posters, but it's no burden either. Main thing is, it is your mom's house, and you should be a little respectful to her beliefs ;). Besides, I don't see how a few crosses, beads and a Bible in your room will distract you from whatever you do in there.
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[QUOTE="freek666"]

"Mum, could you please not place your religious paraphenalia around my room? I find it incredibly offensive to my philosophical and religious beliefs. I understand that you would rather I lead a Christian lifestyle, but it just isn't for me. However, I will still be respectful of your ornaments around the home and of your own beliefs, and I expect to be treated in the same way."

This could help.

CUDCUD

Pretty good suggestion and i think it would be worth a shot with a reasonable person but im talking about my mom here.

Well, then just SCREAM your face off at her! Scare her! Btw, your mom sounds like an ignorant *person* if she doesn't accept that statement, there is something wrong. I really don't see the point of religion, it just creates hate in our world and all the stuff I have watched proves some "God" did not create Earth, but merely it was an after effect of the creation of the Universe...which could be a creator's doing
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Those who say that he should talk to her really don't know christians and how they react to other religions:P

You can always move out or simple ignore the christian stuff...another thing you could would be putting christian stuff in her room,lots of them,put christian stuff everywhere and there is a chance she asks you to decrease them:P

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The all thing is ridiculous! Talk to her and tell her what your "faith" is and not to do such annoying things to you ever again.

EDIT: I am an atheist, too. My mother and my brother, as well. But my father is Christian Orthodox. I have talk with him and respects my "faith".

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[QUOTE="CUDCUD"]

[QUOTE="basia77"]She's trying to guide you in the right way...racer8dan



No, shes trying brainwash me like her parents did to her. Why are baptisms performed on babies that cant make a decision for themselves, because if they were old enough to make a decision there is a chance that they will choose an alternate or no religion and that isnt what christians want so they brainwash the children.

I agree with this %100, baptism as a baby is dumb. But you do know there are other forms of "Christians", what your describing is catholic. There's luthern, pentacostal, jehovahs witnesses, baptists and lots more, personally I am a pentacostal. Don't use the beliefs of one denomination, to disregard a whole religion



Oh yeah i did just mean catholics in relation to baptism, although im not too sure about the practices of all the denominations. Sorry if i offended you.

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[QUOTE="CUDCUD"]

[QUOTE="basia77"]She's trying to guide you in the right way...cjek



No, shes trying brainwash me like her parents did to her. Why are baptisms performed on babies that cant make a decision for themselves, because if they were old enough to make a decision there is a chance that they will choose an alternate or no religion and that isnt what christians want so they brainwash the children.

Just ignore the stuff then. Baptism is literally just a guy putting some water on you and saying a few words. It has no legal, physical or non-physical implications. A bible is a book, rosary beads are just beads, a cross is a bit of wood. If you don't believe in this stuff, then like me you should just ignore it. I went to three Catholic schools, and while they're pretty much like normal schools and not the ones in American movies, I just learnt to ignore the masses and the prayers and the mention of Jesus in every school assembly, rather than get stressed out thinking they are trying to brainwash me.

Just relax and feel safe in the knowledge that nobody can ever force their faith upon you. You have your own mind.



Years ago when i came to the realisation that i didnt believe in the stuff they were telling me their brainwashing failed. I know she cant make me believe but she'll still try.

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Try to explain her you are not christian; you are atheist. If she is a good mother then she will understand.
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i suppose its her house and she can do what she like. but id go mental if my mum was trying to shove religion down my throat. i would make sure i blasphemed everyday just to annoy her as much as she was annoying me. and move out

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It's her house and you have to do her rules while you are there.

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#45 Xorital
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I just flat out told my parents I do not believe, they do not like it, but they also dont want their bibles to burn :D

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#46 markop2003
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Sure, I have this ornament over my door that "keeps the evil spirits out" that's more than out of place next to my Slayer and Iron Maiden posters. DethSkematik
Shouldn't you turn it round then, to stop the evil spirits getting out?
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#47 ks1990steelman
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Faith isn't a rule. It's completely personal and it's unacceptable to tell someone what to believe in.
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#48 deactivated-5cacc9e03b460
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[QUOTE="racer8dan"]

[QUOTE="CUDCUD"]

No, shes trying brainwash me like her parents did to her. Why are baptisms performed on babies that cant make a decision for themselves, because if they were old enough to make a decision there is a chance that they will choose an alternate or no religion and that isnt what christians want so they brainwash the children.

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I agree with this %100, baptism as a baby is dumb. But you do know there are other forms of "Christians", what your describing is catholic. There's luthern, pentacostal, jehovahs witnesses, baptists and lots more, personally I am a pentacostal. Don't use the beliefs of one denomination, to disregard a whole religion



Oh yeah i did just mean catholics in relation to baptism, although im not too sure about the practices of all the denominations. Sorry if i offended you.

I don't get offended very easily, to be honest I couldn't care less, I was just letting you know;)

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#49 Baranga
Member since 2005 • 14217 Posts

I was raised as an Eastern Orthodox and I don't care about religion, other than that its stories and history are quite entertaining. I have a lot of religious items in my room, from icons to various souvenirs from Jerusalem, Meteora and such. And I actually like them, they're cute pieces of art.

To be fair, Orthodox art is a lot more beautiful than the "modernised" protestant art, but still... They're harmless. I think TC is getting angry over nothing. Maybe he should start by not treating them like junk, just put them all in once place and then tell mom that's where he likes them to be, instead of all over the room.

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#50 xXDrPainXx
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I think you should just nut up or shut up and not let the meaningless "junk" bother you. I don't have any religion at all but I know people who do and put it all over their house and you just have to ignore that stuff. If you are really OCD about someone else's stuff in your space just put it in a corner or something and leave it don't try and hide it as it will just make your Mom put it back out, leave it out and I'm sure she will leave you alone.