Here it is, the deciding factor of what the North will do.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/11/28/3078612.htm
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Here it is, the deciding factor of what the North will do.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/11/28/3078612.htm
In the article, when it said nuclear powered carrier, I replaced the carrier with missle, and then had a mini panic attack. It was bad
In the article, when it said nuclear powered carrier, I replaced the carrier with missle, and then had a mini panic attack. It was bad
breakinglaws
I'm not sure Best Korea has ever successfully launched a nuke even in a test.
[QUOTE="breakinglaws"]
In the article, when it said nuclear powered carrier, I replaced the carrier with missle, and then had a mini panic attack. It was bad
Pixel-Pirate
I'm not sure Best Korea has ever successfully launched a nuke even in a test.
What is Best Korea? I prefer the south.
[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]
[QUOTE="breakinglaws"]
In the article, when it said nuclear powered carrier, I replaced the carrier with missle, and then had a mini panic attack. It was bad
breakinglaws
I'm not sure Best Korea has ever successfully launched a nuke even in a test.
What is Best Korea? I prefer the south.
Why my good man....
[QUOTE="breakinglaws"]
[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]
I'm not sure Best Korea has ever successfully launched a nuke even in a test.
Pixel-Pirate
What is Best Korea? I prefer the south.
Why my good man....
Epic lols pic
Well played. 10/10 Did you purposefully put best instead of north, in hopes that someone would call it out?
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[QUOTE="breakinglaws"]
What is Best Korea? I prefer the south.
breakinglaws
Why my good man....
Epic lols pic
Well played. 10/10 Did you purposefully put best instead of north, in hopes that someone would call it out?
Not really. I've been getting good use out of that pic since tuesday.
If the North attacked they would be destroyed. The world is just waiting for a chance to invade. optiowToo risky... More than just that to it. The North could easily attack the South, it's not as simple as waiting for the right moment and then jumping on them, especially when they most likely have nukes.
[QUOTE="optiow"]If the North attacked they would be destroyed. The world is just waiting for a chance to invade. RavensmashToo risky... More than just that to it. The North could easily attack the South, it's not as simple as waiting for the right moment and then jumping on them, especially when they most likely have nukes.
The South is under the US's nuclear umbrella though....
Any idiocy use of nukes from North would result in:
I also hope UK doesn't get dragged into another war.RavensmashIf US is going it to, so will the rest of NATO.
N Korea deploys outdated Anti air missiles designed by a now dead nation.:o
S Korea is doomed!!!
dercoo
I could say the same about talibans making 20 dollar bombs with tootpicks soap and a battery to take out 1 million dollar armored vehicles. But i cant really.
oudated missiles or not if it hits someones roof theyll have to have a bit more than house insurance .
In all honesty, wtf is South Korea doing playing wargames right on the border with N.Korea? These are not the actions of a nation that wants to avoid trouble. Do your ****ing wargames somewhere further South, or else a lot of countries are going to get dragged into the war.F1_2004I've been thinking this. Both sides seem intent on provoking each other.
In all honesty, wtf is South Korea doing playing wargames right on the border with N.Korea? These are not the actions of a nation that wants to avoid trouble. Do your ****ing wargames somewhere further South, or else a lot of countries are going to get dragged into the war.F1_2004SK has been bullied enough. They need to stand up for themselves. Its obvious these attacks aren't stopping anytime soon. They are going as far as they can without starting war. Of course, this is my perspective, and while I disagree with other nations being involved, as they should settle matters themselves, I don't think China and US aren't going to back out of this.
SK has been bullied enough. They need to stand up for themselves. Its obvious these attacks aren't stopping anytime soon. They are going as far as they can without starting war. Of course, this is my perspective, and while I disagree with other nations being involved, as they should settle matters themselves, I don't think China and US aren't going to back out of this.[QUOTE="F1_2004"]In all honesty, wtf is South Korea doing playing wargames right on the border with N.Korea? These are not the actions of a nation that wants to avoid trouble. Do your ****ing wargames somewhere further South, or else a lot of countries are going to get dragged into the war.sherman-tank1
Yup that's true, the US is obligated to help the south if they get into a war with North Korea and China isn't about to let the North Korean government get deposed as they are one of North Koreas biggest allies. This is looking grim.
SK has been bullied enough. They need to stand up for themselves. Its obvious these attacks aren't stopping anytime soon. They are going as far as they can without starting war. Of course, this is my perspective, and while I disagree with other nations being involved, as they should settle matters themselves, I don't think China and US aren't going to back out of this.[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]
[QUOTE="F1_2004"]In all honesty, wtf is South Korea doing playing wargames right on the border with N.Korea? These are not the actions of a nation that wants to avoid trouble. Do your ****ing wargames somewhere further South, or else a lot of countries are going to get dragged into the war.shert
Yup that's true, the US is obligated to help the south if they get into a war with North Korea and China isn't about to let the North Korean government get deposed as it would be a threat to their agenda. This is looking grim.
Imo, the Chinese aren't going to necessarily side with anyone. We saw that when they released a statement about the shelling the other day. It's probably better for their interests if war could be avoided.I have an idea, if war happens, and if the U.S captures all of North Korea, we can sell it to China afterwards and make some money,
"Yeah,um, you know that money we owe right? Well, if you clear our debts, we will give the entire country of NORTH KOREA!1!" or something like that:PI have an idea, if war happens, and if the U.S captures all of North Korea, we can sell it to China afterwards and make some money,
breakinglaws
[QUOTE="shert"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]SK has been bullied enough. They need to stand up for themselves. Its obvious these attacks aren't stopping anytime soon. They are going as far as they can without starting war. Of course, this is my perspective, and while I disagree with other nations being involved, as they should settle matters themselves, I don't think China and US aren't going to back out of this.
Ravensmash
Yup that's true, the US is obligated to help the south if they get into a war with North Korea and China isn't about to let the North Korean government get deposed as it would be a threat to their agenda. This is looking grim.
Imo, the Chinese aren't going to necessarily side with anyone. We saw that when they released a statement about the shelling the other day. It's probably better for their interests if war could be avoided.O it defenitely would be in their best interests economically to stay out of this as they're already garunteed to become a huge economic superpower in the near future but I can't see them letting an invasion of north korea commence while they stand by and do nothing. Hopefully I'm wrong though.
"Yeah,um, you know that money we owe right? Well, if you clear our debts, we will give the entire country of NORTH KOREA!1!" or something like that:P[QUOTE="breakinglaws"]
I have an idea, if war happens, and if the U.S captures all of North Korea, we can sell it to China afterwards and make some money,
Bardock47
Pretty much what I was thinking, eliminate a large amount of debt with them, probably not all of it, and it would increase our political relationship aswell.
I doubt China would do anything, their main trade partners are all US/SKorean allies. F1_2004But they are also NK's main ally who has stood with them, is obviously disturbed by the presence of a US super carrier present, is becoming increasingly powerful, and has disputed territory with Japan. Now, I'm not saying they will be involved but there are some clues.
"Yeah,um, you know that money we owe right? Well, if you clear our debts, we will give the entire country of NORTH KOREA!1!" or something like that:P[QUOTE="Bardock47"]
[QUOTE="breakinglaws"]
I have an idea, if war happens, and if the U.S captures all of North Korea, we can sell it to China afterwards and make some money,
breakinglaws
Pretty much what I was thinking, eliminate a large amount of debt with them, probably not all of it, and it would increase our politicalrelationship aswell.
It would be a win/win from what I can see as well.But they are also NK's main ally who has stood with them, is obviously disturbed by the presence of a US super carrier present, is becoming increasingly powerful, and has disputed territory with Japan. Now, I'm not saying they will be involved but there are some clues. Yeah but it's clear from recent events that they are trying to avoid this at all costs... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11850821[QUOTE="F1_2004"]I doubt China would do anything, their main trade partners are all US/SKorean allies. sherman-tank1
[QUOTE="breakinglaws"]
[QUOTE="Bardock47"] "Yeah,um, you know that money we owe right? Well, if you clear our debts, we will give the entire country of NORTH KOREA!1!" or something like that:P
Bardock47
Pretty much what I was thinking, eliminate a large amount of debt with them, probably not all of it, and it would increase our politicalrelationship aswell.
It would be a win/win from what I can see as well. China would tell us to **** off if we did that. Contrary to popular belief, the main reason China doesn't want war to break out isn't because they like North Korea, it's because they don't want to have to deal with the massive influx of impoverished, brainwashed North Korean refugees that are sure to flood into China the second NK's government becomes too weak to guard the borders anymore. As it stands now China happily ships back any North Korean refugees it finds crossing the border into China not because it gives a damn what NK's government wants but simply because the Chinese hate the idea of their country being flooded with refugees.[QUOTE="Bardock47"]It would be a win/win from what I can see as well. China would tell us to **** off if we did that. Contrary to popular belief, the main reason China doesn't want war to break out isn't because they like North Korea, it's because they don't want to have to deal with the massive influx of impoverished, brainwashed North Korean refugees that are sure to flood into China the second NK's government becomes too weak to guard the borders anymore. As it stands now China happily ships back any North Korean refugees it finds crossing the border into China not because it gives a damn what NK's government wants but simply because the Chinese hate the idea of their country being flooded with refugees.[QUOTE="breakinglaws"]
Pretty much what I was thinking, eliminate a large amount of debt with them, probably not all of it, and it would increase our politicalrelationship aswell.
gameguy6700
North Korea has plenty of space for farms, god knows China needs that.
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[QUOTE="Bardock47"] "Yeah,um, you know that money we owe right? Well, if you clear our debts, we will give the entire country of NORTH KOREA!1!" or something like that:P
Bardock47
Pretty much what I was thinking, eliminate a large amount of debt with them, probably not all of it, and it would increase our politicalrelationship aswell.
It would be a win/win from what I can see as well.Well the one flaw with this plan is why would China allow a country they essentially already own through their massive alliance to be taken over then sold back to them for a very large sum when they can simply help defend it (also keeping a measure of stability in the region as the current government wouldn't be deposed).
But they are also NK's main ally who has stood with them, is obviously disturbed by the presence of a US super carrier present, is becoming increasingly powerful, and has disputed territory with Japan. Now, I'm not saying they will be involved but there are some clues. Still, waging war on the western world is not something you just jump into. Even back in 1950, China hesitated to directly declare war during the Korean war, and that was before their economy went global.[QUOTE="F1_2004"]I doubt China would do anything, their main trade partners are all US/SKorean allies. sherman-tank1
It would be a win/win from what I can see as well.[QUOTE="Bardock47"]
[QUOTE="breakinglaws"]
Pretty much what I was thinking, eliminate a large amount of debt with them, probably not all of it, and it would increase our politicalrelationship aswell.
shert
Well the one flaw with this plan is why would China allow a country they essentially already own through their massive alliance to be taken over then sold back to them for a very large sum when they can simply help defend it (also keeping a measure of stability in the region as the current government wouldn't be deposed).
If they try and defend it, they'll probably lose. Also the economy would be blown open.
Except that China is most rural land so its not like they're in need of farmland. Even if they were, North Korea is a terrible candidate for farmland considering that it's mostly mountains and the dam the North Koreans built flooded the region so badly that any farmland that they did have has long since been destroyed. There's a reason why North Korea has to resort to these stunts to beg for more food aid every year and why even despite that malnutrition is the major cause of death among North Koreans.North Korea has plenty of space for farms, god knows China needs that.
BreakingLaws
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[QUOTE="Bardock47"] It would be a win/win from what I can see as well.
breakinglaws
Well the one flaw with this plan is why would China allow a country they essentially already own through their massive alliance to be taken over then sold back to them for a very large sum when they can simply help defend it (also keeping a measure of stability in the region as the current government wouldn't be deposed).
If they try and defend it, they'll probably lose. Also the economy would be blown open.
I would agree 100% about them losing if America wasn't in the state it's currently in, waging wars in multiple regions already coupled with a weak economy and a public who wouldn't support this war, not to mention china will essentially be fighting on home turf means it'll be no easy win by any means.
[QUOTE="Bardock47"]It would be a win/win from what I can see as well. China would tell us to **** off if we did that. Contrary to popular belief, the main reason China doesn't want war to break out isn't because they like North Korea, it's because they don't want to have to deal with the massive influx of impoverished, brainwashed North Korean refugees that are sure to flood into China the second NK's government becomes too weak to guard the borders anymore. As it stands now China happily ships back any North Korean refugees it finds crossing the border into China not because it gives a damn what NK's government wants but simply because the Chinese hate the idea of their country being flooded with refugees. Thank you for the explanation, I honestly don't know much about the realtions and politics between them. Either way though, it seems China would have to deal with NK refugees. The question is if China would be be able to withstand the refugee problem, for a major turf exapansion?[QUOTE="breakinglaws"]
Pretty much what I was thinking, eliminate a large amount of debt with them, probably not all of it, and it would increase our politicalrelationship aswell.
gameguy6700
Still, waging war on the western world is not something you just jump into. Even back in 1950, China hesitated to directly declare war during the Korean war, and that was before their economy went global. F1_2004Of course just jumping into it is not usually the case. I personally believe they wouldn't go into it if ever came to war (which is still very unlikely), but it is not something that you shouldn't be surprised about.
[QUOTE="optiow"]If the North attacked they would be destroyed. The world is just waiting for a chance to invade. RavensmashToo risky... More than just that to it. The North could easily attack the South, it's not as simple as waiting for the right moment and then jumping on them, especially when they most likely have nukes.
You can have a gun that's jammed. When you do it's basically a hunk of plastic and metal.
Best Korea likely has Nukes. Have they had a successful test launch? No. Considering they're using equipment from the 50's, it's hard to say their nukes will even reach out of best Korea or if it will even launch.
I'm also not sure on how it all works but if they nuked, sey, Seoul, wouldn't the fallout drift to Best Korea and kill them as well? Nukes arn't too useful if you're going to kill yourself with them.
N.Korea to be 'merciless'
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/world/view/20101128-305787/NKorea-to-be-merciless-if-any-provocationstate-media
SK has been bullied enough. They need to stand up for themselves. Its obvious these attacks aren't stopping anytime soon. They are going as far as they can without starting war. Of course, this is my perspective, and while I disagree with other nations being involved, as they should settle matters themselves, I don't think China and US aren't going to back out of this.[QUOTE="F1_2004"]In all honesty, wtf is South Korea doing playing wargames right on the border with N.Korea? These are not the actions of a nation that wants to avoid trouble. Do your ****ing wargames somewhere further South, or else a lot of countries are going to get dragged into the war.sherman-tank1
And by stand up for themselves we mean provoke the bully and then hide behind the body builder(US).
China would tell us to **** off if we did that. Contrary to popular belief, the main reason China doesn't want war to break out isn't because they like North Korea, it's because they don't want to have to deal with the massive influx of impoverished, brainwashed North Korean refugees that are sure to flood into China the second NK's government becomes too weak to guard the borders anymore. As it stands now China happily ships back any North Korean refugees it finds crossing the border into China not because it gives a damn what NK's government wants but simply because the Chinese hate the idea of their country being flooded with refugees. Thank you for the explanation, I honestly don't know much about the realtions and politics between them. Either way though, it seems China would have to deal with NK refugees. The question is if China would be be able to withstand the refugee problem, for a major turf exapansion? What makes you think if North Korea fell it would go into Chinese hands?[QUOTE="gameguy6700"][QUOTE="Bardock47"] It would be a win/win from what I can see as well.
Bardock47
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