News: 71 wounded, 12 killed in midnight showing of The Dark Knight Rises

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#351 almasdeathchild
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"]Now, I realize the movie was good..but it ain't nothing to die over.SteverXIII
At least the opening night went off with a bang.

lol.....wow some of these posts

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#352 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Iszdope"]

[QUOTE="SteverXIII"]When I said to expect this movie to make a killing opening week I didn't mean this.Sunsha

D!ck.

Did you lose someone important in this? If not stop being so sensitive. Sure it's sad but we can't all cry about it. Or are you just trolling...?

That doesn't mean we can all make smart remarks for the purpose of gaining a cheap laugh.
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#353 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]sigh..if there is a will there is always a way.... http://news.yahoo.com/deadliest-mass-shootings-around-world-114808608.htmlmattisgod01

Oh look...it's not just America. mattisgod was wrong....surprise surprise. Not.

More inspired posting from LJ? Those cases date back decades. But again, You have no comprhension of numbers beyond 1. All the same to you.

Hey dude those cases happened. You straight out said ONLY IN AMERICA. Thus you were ABSOLUTELY WRONG. But let's look at some dates. 2011 Norway. Not decades.2009 Azerbaijan. Not decades.2008 Finland. Not decades.2007 Finland. Not decades. 2002 Germany. Not decades. And while it wasn't as major as other cases 2002 also saw a mass shooting in Australia. Well after the 1996 restrictions. More inspired untruths from mattisgod01?
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#354 Assassin_87
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There a many more factors to consider, However, How many incidents of serious assault etc have turned into homicide due to the easy accessibility of guns? Guns are too lethal a weapon to have laying around everywhere. What would otherwise be serious injury can result in death because the person used a weapon very efficient at killing.

mattisgod01

What? Guns aren't just "laying around everywhere". I live in the south, where people are all gung-ho about their right to bear arms, and I've personally only seen a handful of people carrying/owning a firearm, let alone ever using said firearm. You're talking as if the gun issue is a big one. Most people don't even care to own a gun unless they hunt or intend to keep it for self defense inside their home.

Crazy, homicidal maniacs and those who think they'll prove a point by committing heinous acts like this will always find a way to get the tools they need.

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#355 Sunsha
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[QUOTE="Iszdope"]Did I wound you again? And I'll cry if I want to thank you very much.

Hardly, you are the one crying not me. In any case I said we can't all be that way. You can be however you want I suppose.
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#356 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Happens in other countries including Australia. Though Australia requires 4 deaths so they discount that shooting of 7 people in 2002 since only 2 died.LJS9502_basic

Does such an event event make the news in America? 7 wounded, 2 dead is a bad car accident.

Yes. It's always best when someone knows nothing about a country that they don't assume they know how it works. Hint Hint. Nonetheless your statement was in error. Those who want to commit heinous crimes will find a way to obtain the weapon. IN ANY COUNTRY.

Not getting in to this gun debate, but the point is that it's EASIER in America due to fewer controls on firearms and easy access. That's the point people make when they refer to gun crime in america, no one makes a reasonable denial that it is non-existent elsewhere.
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#357 Soniczero1993
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GUYS GUYS! I GOT THE PERFECT PLAN! WE NUKE EVERYTHING!
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#358 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

Does such an event event make the news in America? 7 wounded, 2 dead is a bad car accident.

Ravensmash
Yes. It's always best when someone knows nothing about a country that they don't assume they know how it works. Hint Hint. Nonetheless your statement was in error. Those who want to commit heinous crimes will find a way to obtain the weapon. IN ANY COUNTRY.

Not getting in to this gun debate, but the point is that it's EASIER in America due to fewer controls on firearms and easy access. That's the point people make when they refer to gun crime in america, no one makes a reasonable denial that it is non-existent elsewhere.

Is it easier? Last I checked most countries have a thriving black market in guns so if someone really wants one....they can get it. And in the US most guns used in violent crimes are illegal.
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#359 bnarmz
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It's a bit sad watching people make complete fools of themselves thinking this incident is something to joke about. How lame can you be?
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#360 TheFallenDemon
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Does anyone else think that The Daily Mail and Christy Lemire hired the gunman to change everyone else's opinions to match theirs of the TDKR?

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#362 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

This is like reason #1 why you don't go to these movie openings anymore.

If people are crazy enough to get dressed up like Batman, you know there 1 or 2 out there who are REALLY messed up and looking to go Postal.

ZamboniGamer
Agree. My wife purchased two tickets that can be used anytime. We were thinking about going next week or so. Though i think we may just give them away. Don't know how comfortable I feel going now. Also think of the other nuts out there that may attempt the same thing. I'll just wait until it releases on blu-ray which therese days is happening sooner than later.

While you're certainly entitled to your own level of fear, I think you're being paranoid. This could happen anywhere where lots of people congregate. Next week it could be someone shooting up a market during peak business hours, next month it could be someone detonating a truck bomb next to a packed nightclub. I don't know this guy's motives, but clearly one of his goals was to kill a whole lot of people. Unless you're just going to decide to completely avoid ALL crowds from now on, there's no way to avoid this.
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#363 Scarebaby
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Another killing spree brought to you from the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution.

Netherscourge

Exactly. Land of the free, indeed.

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#364 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Sunsha"][QUOTE="Iszdope"]Did I wound you again? And I'll cry if I want to thank you very much.Iszdope

Hardly, you are the one crying not me. In any case I said we can't all be that way. You can be however you want I suppose.

You know it.

Ave Sathanas!

You try to hard dude. Not sure why anyone is taking you seriously TBH. Must be unfamiliar with your posting technique.
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#365 Soniczero1993
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Does anyone else think that The Daily Mail and Christy Lemire hired the gunman to change everyone else's opinions to match theirs of the TDKR?

TheFallenDemon

IT ALL MAKES SENSE!

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#366 Sunsha
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[QUOTE="Iszdope"]You know it. >Ave Sathanas!

Yes, I had considered you were just trolling. You demon.
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#367 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Yes. It's always best when someone knows nothing about a country that they don't assume they know how it works. Hint Hint. Nonetheless your statement was in error. Those who want to commit heinous crimes will find a way to obtain the weapon. IN ANY COUNTRY.

Not getting in to this gun debate, but the point is that it's EASIER in America due to fewer controls on firearms and easy access. That's the point people make when they refer to gun crime in america, no one makes a reasonable denial that it is non-existent elsewhere.

Is it easier? Last I checked most countries have a thriving black market in guns so if someone really wants one....they can get it. And in the US most guns used in violent crimes are illegal.

Yes it's easier. Any legal citizen has access, and any of those citizens could 'flip' - much harder for a disturbed individual to grab hold of a firearm at short notice when there are tighter regulations. That's my point.
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#369 l4dak47
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It's a bit sad watching people make complete fools of themselves thinking this incident is something to joke about. How lame can you be? bnarmz
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#370 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Not getting in to this gun debate, but the point is that it's EASIER in America due to fewer controls on firearms and easy access. That's the point people make when they refer to gun crime in america, no one makes a reasonable denial that it is non-existent elsewhere.

Is it easier? Last I checked most countries have a thriving black market in guns so if someone really wants one....they can get it. And in the US most guns used in violent crimes are illegal.

Yes it's easier. Any legal citizen has access, and any of those citizens could 'flip' - much harder for a disturbed individual to grab hold of a firearm at short notice when there are tighter regulations. That's my point.

You've never heard of gun regulations then......
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#372 JustPlainLucas
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[QUOTE="SteverXIII"] At least the opening night went off with a bang.

Can fu ckers like you stop making cracks about this horrible event? Seriously, have some god damned respect for people who passed away and for those who got hurt. Jesus Christ...
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#373 Assassin_87
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[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

Another killing spree brought to you from the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution.

Scarebaby

Exactly. Land of the free, indeed.

Indeed! People are free to acquire guns. What's the point of your post?

Or were you being sincere? I read sarcasm.

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#374 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

Another killing spree brought to you from the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution.

Scarebaby

Exactly. Land of the free, indeed.

Right because homicides only occur in the US....wait....:roll:
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#375 Scarebaby
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[QUOTE="Scarebaby"]

[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

Another killing spree brought to you from the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution.

Assassin_87

Exactly. Land of the free, indeed.

Indeed! People are free to acquire guns. What's the point of your post?

Or were you being sincere? I read sarcasm.

My point is that people are ruled by fear.

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#376 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"][QUOTE="SteverXIII"] At least the opening night went off with a bang.

Can fu ckers like you stop making cracks about this horrible event? Seriously, have some god damned respect for people who passed away and for those who got hurt. Jesus Christ...

QQ
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#377 Sunsha
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[QUOTE="Iszdope"]I'm not trolling. Edit: not a demon either. Pretty sure.

Of course you're not going to admit it.
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#378 bnarmz
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[QUOTE="bnarmz"]It's a bit sad watching people make complete fools of themselves thinking this incident is something to joke about. How lame can you be? l4dak47
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I guess the depths of the lame has no end around here.
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Is it easier? Last I checked most countries have a thriving black market in guns so if someone really wants one....they can get it. And in the US most guns used in violent crimes are illegal.LJS9502_basic
Yes it's easier. Any legal citizen has access, and any of those citizens could 'flip' - much harder for a disturbed individual to grab hold of a firearm at short notice when there are tighter regulations. That's my point.

You've never heard of gun regulations then......

What? I'm not getting you now. Gun crime occurs here, but it is far rarer than countries with looser laws - it doesn't take a genius to work out that firearm regulation could be linked to that.

Edit: Anyway, I'm not getting into this because I'm not necessarily for tight firearm controls in all circumstances, nor do I wish to see Americans have their guns taken away - just making a statement.

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#381 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Sunsha"][QUOTE="Iszdope"]I'm not trolling. Edit: not a demon either. Pretty sure.

Of course you're not going to admit it.

You're giving him the attention he craves. Ignore him. On topic....it's a tragedy and I hope the families get through this. RIP
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#382 Assassin_87
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My point is that people are ruled by fear.

Scarebaby

Well, they can either be ruled by the somewhat irrational fear of a random psychopath mowing them down at the theater, or simply by oppression of the basic right to buy whatever you feel that you want.

Either way, people are "ruled" by something.

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#383 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Yes it's easier. Any legal citizen has access, and any of those citizens could 'flip' - much harder for a disturbed individual to grab hold of a firearm at short notice when there are tighter regulations. That's my point. Ravensmash

You've never heard of gun regulations then......

What? I'm not getting you now. Gun crime occurs here, but it is far rarer than countries with looser laws - it doesn't take a genius to work out that firearm regulation could be linked to that.

Edit: Anyway, I'm not getting into this because I'm not necessarily for tight firearm controls in all circumstances, nor do I wish to see Americans have their guns taken away - just making a statement.

The US has gun regulations. You don't just walk in and grab guns.
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#384 Omni-Slash
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My point is that people are ruled by fear.

Scarebaby
you mean like running to ban an inanimate object because someone uses it in an irresponsible way even though there are millions whom use them correctly every day?.....
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#386 Scarebaby
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[QUOTE="Scarebaby"]

My point is that people are ruled by fear.

Assassin_87

Well, they can either be ruled by the somewhat irrational fear of a random psychopath mowing them down at the theater, or simply by oppression of the basic right to buy whatever you feel that you want.

Either way, people are "ruled" by something.

I don't count firearms as a basic right for everyone to purchase. Then again, I'm not an American.

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] You've never heard of gun regulations then......LJS9502_basic

What? I'm not getting you now. Gun crime occurs here, but it is far rarer than countries with looser laws - it doesn't take a genius to work out that firearm regulation could be linked to that.

Edit: Anyway, I'm not getting into this because I'm not necessarily for tight firearm controls in all circumstances, nor do I wish to see Americans have their guns taken away - just making a statement.

The US has gun regulations. You don't just walk in and grab guns.

and those regulations are really working so well ..
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="bnarmz"]It's a bit sad watching people make complete fools of themselves thinking this incident is something to joke about. How lame can you be? bnarmz
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I guess the depths of the lame has no end around here.

Agreed. People pretending that they truly, truly care about this event is a bit lame.
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#389 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] You've never heard of gun regulations then......LJS9502_basic

What? I'm not getting you now. Gun crime occurs here, but it is far rarer than countries with looser laws - it doesn't take a genius to work out that firearm regulation could be linked to that.

Edit: Anyway, I'm not getting into this because I'm not necessarily for tight firearm controls in all circumstances, nor do I wish to see Americans have their guns taken away - just making a statement.

The US has gun regulations. You don't just walk in and grab guns.

Pretty close, though.
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#390 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] You've never heard of gun regulations then......LJS9502_basic

What? I'm not getting you now. Gun crime occurs here, but it is far rarer than countries with looser laws - it doesn't take a genius to work out that firearm regulation could be linked to that.

Edit: Anyway, I'm not getting into this because I'm not necessarily for tight firearm controls in all circumstances, nor do I wish to see Americans have their guns taken away - just making a statement.

The US has gun regulations. You don't just walk in and grab guns.

I'm aware of that... But by law and the existence of the 2nd amendment it is far far easier for a civilian to gain access to firearms than in a country where prohibition is the law.
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#391 Soniczero1993
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[QUOTE="Scarebaby"]

My point is that people are ruled by fear.

Omni-Slash

you mean like running to ban an inanimate object because someone uses it in an irresponsible way even though there are millions whom use them correctly every day?.....

This guy. This guy has sense.

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] I'm aware of that... But by law and the existence of the 2nd amendment it is far far easier for a civilian to gain access to firearms than in a country where prohibition is the law.

but would you want a place where only criminals would be acquiring guns?...
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#393 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] What? I'm not getting you now. Gun crime occurs here, but it is far rarer than countries with looser laws - it doesn't take a genius to work out that firearm regulation could be linked to that.

Edit: Anyway, I'm not getting into this because I'm not necessarily for tight firearm controls in all circumstances, nor do I wish to see Americans have their guns taken away - just making a statement.

Allthishate
The US has gun regulations. You don't just walk in and grab guns.

and those regulations are really working so well ..

Considering the majority of violent crimes are committed by illegal weapons....yes yes they are. You will never get rid of guns. Gun crime exists in countries with bans on private ownership FYI. Guess the ban doesn't work so well.......
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#394 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] What? I'm not getting you now. Gun crime occurs here, but it is far rarer than countries with looser laws - it doesn't take a genius to work out that firearm regulation could be linked to that.

Edit: Anyway, I'm not getting into this because I'm not necessarily for tight firearm controls in all circumstances, nor do I wish to see Americans have their guns taken away - just making a statement.

Ravensmash
The US has gun regulations. You don't just walk in and grab guns.

I'm aware of that... But by law and the existence of the 2nd amendment it is far far easier for a civilian to gain access to firearms than in a country where prohibition is the law.

Legal gun owners are not doing the crime. Most crimes are committed by ILLEGAL weapons. You do see the difference....no?
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#395 Scarebaby
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[QUOTE="Scarebaby"]

My point is that people are ruled by fear.

Omni-Slash

you mean like running to ban an inanimate object because someone uses it in an irresponsible way even though there are millions whom use them correctly every day?.....

Tell me, how is a gun used gun correctly? To kill people? To frighten them? To keep them in order?

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#396 bnarmz
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[QUOTE="bnarmz"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] QQl4dak47
I guess the depths of the lame has no end around here.

Agreed. People pretending that they truly, truly care about this event is a bit lame.

I care deeply and thats why I'm in tuned to the convo, I want to see what other ppl think about this tragic event. Apparently, you seem like the next one to go out and do some dumb crap like this...so, I hope others are also taking notes.
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Horrific news!!! This just killed my weekend :(
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#398 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="Scarebaby"]

My point is that people are ruled by fear.

Scarebaby

you mean like running to ban an inanimate object because someone uses it in an irresponsible way even though there are millions whom use them correctly every day?.....

Tell me, how is a gun used gun correctly? To kill people? To frighten them? To keep them in order?

Hunting, target practice, defense......deterrent. Etc.
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#399 Sunsha
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You're giving him the attention he craves. Ignore him.LJS9502_basic
I like him. He amuses me. I shall play with anyone I please.
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#400 Allthishate
Member since 2009 • 1879 Posts
Do we know the identity of the shooter yet ?. i will find it hilarious if this guy was a christian or white and then the media will portray him as mentally challenged but yet if he was Muslim or of a Arab decent he will be labed as a terroriest act. ALA Norway bomber.