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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Yes your incomprehensible off topic ramblings with izdope are certainly key to the discussion at hand. Thanks for enlightening us.SunshaAs I said. It is better than using death to create amusement for yourself. I believe that is exactly what you said you were doing. Congratulations.
There was tear gas in there...a shootout in a crowded theatre while struggling to see, might not have ended well at all. I really don't think anyone could have done anything considering how the gunman acted.In the "not-how-to-respond-to-a-crisis" department:
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/07/20/554761/tea-party-congressman-links-colorado-shooting-to-attacks-on-christianity/
Not only did Rep. Gohmert think that this was an attack on "Judeo-Christian" beliefs, but he also though the tradgedy could have been averted if people in the movie audience had guns and shot back.
jimkabrhel
I didn't insult you..I insulted your asinine comment...you may find this hard to believe but your country is not the same as my country...for better or worse that is up for debate...but you cannot take something that has been ingrained into the fabric of your country since it's creation and just one day reverse it...you would be leaving millions of people at the hands of those whom do not follow the law...as you decided to ignore the rest of the valid uses of firearms I'm pretty sure you have no rebuttal and thus this conversation was really going no where anyway...Personal protection, yes! Of course you'd need a gun to protect yourself since... everybody else has a gun. The only way to make sure someone doesn't shoot you is to shoot them first. If you lived further outside the borders of the US you'd probably be able to see it.
Also, if you're going to resort to insulting me just because you don't agree with me I think this discussion ends here.
Scarebaby
[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] The US has gun regulations. You don't just walk in and grab guns. LJS9502_basicI'm aware of that... But by law and the existence of the 2nd amendment it is far far easier for a civilian to gain access to firearms than in a country where prohibition is the law. Legal gun owners are not doing the crime. Most crimes are committed by ILLEGAL weapons. You do see the difference....no?
You know it is blatantly obvious to everyone who has seen enough of your posts that you are a die hard defender of America. You will defend America on any grounds often with nothing but pedantic BS. Where do you think all the Illegal guns are comming from? Did it ever cross your mind that "Legal" guns can fall into the hands of criminals through a million different ways thereby becoming "Illegal"? I doubt it, your views are about as narrow as they come. You will pick out the most ridiculous examples to prove your point while ignoring anything that contradicts your opinion. If you consider 2 dead and 7 wounded to be a "Mass Shooting" besides having a poor definition of "Mass" you also open up the floodgates to many many more cases in the US thus now under such a criteria. you said it yourself, Australia Doesn't consider it a mass shooting until it reaches 4 deaths, Yet you conveniently ignore it because it doesn't fit with your Definition, Not only are you an expert on every topic but you go so far as to dictate Australian policy? The best someone has been able to achieve since the strict gun regulations in 7 wounded and 2 dead and only LJ could see this as a failure, You'd think he'd forgotten about the events tonight already, Let me remind you, 50+ wounded, 14+ dead. But maybe you should go back to school and learn to count to 10, you seem to have very little comprehension of numbers or their relevance.
Guns aren't even the issue...I live in a state with some of the most conservative gun laws in the nation and the crime rate is amongst the lowest in the country.
Legal gun owners are not doing the crime. Most crimes are committed by ILLEGAL weapons. You do see the difference....no?[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] I'm aware of that... But by law and the existence of the 2nd amendment it is far far easier for a civilian to gain access to firearms than in a country where prohibition is the law.mattisgod01
You know it is blatantly obvious to everyone who has seen enough of your posts that you are a die hard defender of America. You will defend America on any grounds often with nothing but pedantic BS. Where do you think all the Illegal guns are comming from? Did it ever cross your mind that "Legal" guns can fall into the hands of criminals through a million different ways thereby becoming "Illegal"? I doubt it, your views are about as narrow as they come. You will pick out the most ridiculous examples to prove your point while ignoring anything that contradicts your opinion. If you consider 2 dead and 7 wounded to be a "Mass Shooting" besides having a poor definition of "Mass" you also open up the floodgates to many many more cases in the US thus now under such a criteria. you said it yourself, Australia Doesn't consider it a mass shooting until it reaches 4 deaths, Yet you conveniently ignore it because it doesn't fit with your Definition, Not only are you an expert on every topic but you go so far as to dictate Australian policy? The best someone has been able to achieve since the strict gun regulations in 7 wounded and 2 dead and only LJ could see this as a failure, You'd think he'd forgotten about the events tonight already, Let me remind you, 50+ wounded, 14+ dead. But maybe you should go back to school and learn to count to 10, you seem to have very little comprehension of numbers or their relevance.
:lol: I think it's blatantly obvious to everyone who has seen enough of your posts to know you spout nothing but negatives about America. Hypocrite.Australia has has gun crimes since 1996. Nice to know you don't put any stock in the lives of those killed as long as it isn't sensational enough for you.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I believe that is exactly what you said you were doing. Congratulations.SunshaNo, I was using a person who is alive to do that. Don't be silly.Then maybe you two should be PM buddies.
[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"]That is A LOOOOOOOOOOOOT of people injured and dead from one civilian shooting. How f*cking ridiculous is that. RIP for the victims and hope their families can ride it out. Really feel sorry for the people having their entire lives ruined by some random psycho. Iszdope
It's a tad worse than "f*cking ridiculous".
Do you recognise the word 'empathy'?
Damned pony boys.
????
Are you mentally disabled or what?
Undeniably an act of pure terrorism. Of course the media will excuse him as 'mentally ill' because of his skin color. Regardless, a horrible tragedy.,Maniacc1don't be stupid
I blame the 87% on RT
if the 13% had just been fine and kept it at 100% the killer most likely would not have snapped
the blood of the victims will forever be on their hands
[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Legal gun owners are not doing the crime. Most crimes are committed by ILLEGAL weapons. You do see the difference....no?LJS9502_basic
You know it is blatantly obvious to everyone who has seen enough of your posts that you are a die hard defender of America. You will defend America on any grounds often with nothing but pedantic BS. Where do you think all the Illegal guns are comming from? Did it ever cross your mind that "Legal" guns can fall into the hands of criminals through a million different ways thereby becoming "Illegal"? I doubt it, your views are about as narrow as they come. You will pick out the most ridiculous examples to prove your point while ignoring anything that contradicts your opinion. If you consider 2 dead and 7 wounded to be a "Mass Shooting" besides having a poor definition of "Mass" you also open up the floodgates to many many more cases in the US thus now under such a criteria. you said it yourself, Australia Doesn't consider it a mass shooting until it reaches 4 deaths, Yet you conveniently ignore it because it doesn't fit with your Definition, Not only are you an expert on every topic but you go so far as to dictate Australian policy? The best someone has been able to achieve since the strict gun regulations in 7 wounded and 2 dead and only LJ could see this as a failure, You'd think he'd forgotten about the events tonight already, Let me remind you, 50+ wounded, 14+ dead. But maybe you should go back to school and learn to count to 10, you seem to have very little comprehension of numbers or their relevance.
:lol: I think it's blatantly obvious to everyone who has seen enough of your posts to know you spout nothing but negatives about America. Hypocrite.Australia has has gun crimes since 1996. Nice to know you don't put any stock in the lives of those killed as long as it isn't sensational enough for you.
Firstly, Give me one example of me hating on America outside of this thread? Last i checked i'm usually defending America. But you do like your lies, Especially if they support your subjective facts.
Secondly, When did i state Australia had no gun crimes? In fact i have admitted as much several times in this very thread, While you're back at school learning to count to 10, Perhaps take some basic english too...
Thirdly, When did i say i didn't care for those who were killed? I don't consider someone who chokes to death a massacre victim either, Doesn't mean i don't have sympathy, But nice try, Making me seem like an apathetic person, Not that's not the first time you've tried that. What was the last accusation, Something about me being responsible for starting heaps of wars or killing millions, I forget. Something about me being Hitler or Stalin no doubt.
[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] Lol. Of course, this is just your opinion. [spoiler] inb4 ljs claims it's fact [/spoiler] l4dak47I'll agree with LJ if he does claim it as fact. Especially tragedies where people are still fighting for their lives smh Just because someone claims it's a fact doesn't make it one. Now, don't get me wrong, it's a tragedy, and one that should be respected, but it's a bit dumb to get all upset over a few jokes. It's a bit dumb to make a few jokes. If you guys want to mock victims or make light of children being shot, then can you at least take it to PM or another thread?
Just because someone claims it's a fact doesn't make it one. Now, don't get me wrong, it's a tragedy, and one that should be respected, but it's a bit dumb to get all upset over a few jokes. It's a bit dumb to make a few jokes. If you guys want to mock victims or make light of children being shot, then can you at least take it to PM or another thread? I don't.....wat? This is the only relevant thread around. I find it dumb to be offended over jokes when there are far more pressing issues to try and fix. Jokes are not the issue here.[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] I'll agree with LJ if he does claim it as fact. Especially tragedies where people are still fighting for their lives smhRavensmash
[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] Lol. Of course, this is just your opinion. [spoiler] inb4 ljs claims it's fact [/spoiler] l4dak47I'll agree with LJ if he does claim it as fact. Especially tragedies where people are still fighting for their lives smh Just because someone claims it's a fact doesn't make it one. Now, don't get me wrong, it's a tragedy, and one that should be respected, but it's a bit dumb to get all upset over a few jokes. dude you just don't get it, do yo? You'll doing nothing but smothering yourself in wack sauce. Perhaps you should go find something new and useful to do...like take a shower. As of now you're just funking up the place with your dumbass comments. wth...
[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]It's a bit dumb to make a few jokes. If you guys want to mock victims or make light of children being shot, then can you at least take it to PM or another thread? I don't.....wat? This is the only relevant thread around. Oh, go ahead then....[QUOTE="l4dak47"] Just because someone claims it's a fact doesn't make it one. Now, don't get me wrong, it's a tragedy, and one that should be respected, but it's a bit dumb to get all upset over a few jokes. l4dak47
:lol: I think it's blatantly obvious to everyone who has seen enough of your posts to know you spout nothing but negatives about America. Hypocrite.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]
[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]
You know it is blatantly obvious to everyone who has seen enough of your posts that you are a die hard defender of America. You will defend America on any grounds often with nothing but pedantic BS. Where do you think all the Illegal guns are comming from? Did it ever cross your mind that "Legal" guns can fall into the hands of criminals through a million different ways thereby becoming "Illegal"? I doubt it, your views are about as narrow as they come. You will pick out the most ridiculous examples to prove your point while ignoring anything that contradicts your opinion. If you consider 2 dead and 7 wounded to be a "Mass Shooting" besides having a poor definition of "Mass" you also open up the floodgates to many many more cases in the US thus now under such a criteria. you said it yourself, Australia Doesn't consider it a mass shooting until it reaches 4 deaths, Yet you conveniently ignore it because it doesn't fit with your Definition, Not only are you an expert on every topic but you go so far as to dictate Australian policy? The best someone has been able to achieve since the strict gun regulations in 7 wounded and 2 dead and only LJ could see this as a failure, You'd think he'd forgotten about the events tonight already, Let me remind you, 50+ wounded, 14+ dead. But maybe you should go back to school and learn to count to 10, you seem to have very little comprehension of numbers or their relevance.
mattisgod01
Australia has has gun crimes since 1996. Nice to know you don't put any stock in the lives of those killed as long as it isn't sensational enough for you.
Firstly, Give me one example of me hating on America outside of this thread? Last i checked i'm usually defending America. But you do like your lies, Especially if they support your subjective facts.
Secondly, When did i state Australia had no gun crimes? In fact i have admitted as much several times in this very thread, While you're back at school learning to count to 10, Perhaps take some basic english too...
Thirdly, When did i say i didn't care for those who were killed? I don't consider someone who chokes to death a massacre victim either, Doesn't mean i don't have sympathy, But nice try, Making me seem like an apathetic person, Not that's not the first time you've tried that. What was the last accusation, Something about me being responsible for starting heaps of wars or killing millions, I forget. Something about me being Hitler or Stalin no doubt.
Why should I? I used the same tactic you used. You provided no examples. Put up or shut up. Like America? Yeah right. Stop trying to blow smoke up our asses. Your post in this thread was indicative of your thoughts on the US. Second, you continued to uphold Australia as a bastion on what to do to remove incidents like this from happening. There are several of your posts in this very thread where you do that. When presented with some evidence that don't support your claim you flat out ignored it. You seem to be the one lying in this thread dude. As for basic English......seems you are most in need of it. Third I was specifically talking about gun crimes. Don't straw man.[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] I'll agree with LJ if he does claim it as fact. Especially tragedies where people are still fighting for their lives smhbnarmzJust because someone claims it's a fact doesn't make it one. Now, don't get me wrong, it's a tragedy, and one that should be respected, but it's a bit dumb to get all upset over a few jokes. dude you just don't get it, do yo? You'll doing nothing but smothering yourself in wack sauce. Perhaps you should go find something new and useful to do...like take a shower. As of now you're just funking up the place with your dumbass comments. wth... QQ.
At least he will get a proper punishment nowIt's too bad the shooter didn't get shot to death by the police.
CHOASXIII
At least he will get a proper punishment now[QUOTE="SteverXIII"][QUOTE="CHOASXIII"]
It's too bad the shooter didn't get shot to death by the police.
CHOASXIII
I hope so, I don't want to hear some BS, "Oh I grew up in a bad life" and then suddenly 10 years or something.
He won't get 10 years bro. Life no parole is my predictionAt least he will get a proper punishment now[QUOTE="SteverXIII"][QUOTE="CHOASXIII"]
It's too bad the shooter didn't get shot to death by the police.
CHOASXIII
I hope so, I don't want to hear some BS, "Oh I grew up in a bad life" and then suddenly 10 years or something.
That won't happen. life w/no parole is guaranteed.[QUOTE="CHOASXIII"][QUOTE="SteverXIII"] At least he will get a proper punishment now l4dak47
I hope so, I don't want to hear some BS, "Oh I grew up in a bad life" and then suddenly 10 years or something.
That won't happen. life w/no parole is guaranteed.Good, that's the least I would hope for.
[QUOTE="mattisgod01"][QUOTE="Jebus213"] It won't decrease murder. Criminals and psychopaths will always obtain them illegally. It will just start another big market for gangs and organized crime. Some may even result to making there own guns.Jebus213
Why has it worked in other countries? What makes America different?
It's worked in other countries? That's news to me. Intentional homicide rate per 100000 people, 2011. United States - 4.8 Canada - 1.62 United Kingdom - 1.23 Australia - 1.16 I absolutely hate gun registry but something is working. I guess the people are just better. Also gamespot isn't allowing me to have them on separate lines, retarded forum.Torture him, make him feel bad. Fvck him up...this is low. I hate when people do evil things without a purpose.MgamerBDWould it somehow be better if he had one?
Looking at this thread there are a bunch of morons here. You can walk into any hardware or drug store and make a bomb that you can trigger with your cell phone. A terrorist does not need a gun and this can happen in any country. Instead of hating on any country your heart should go out to the people that got killed and hurt trying to watch a movie. Mr Aussie put your head out your behind and stop talking crap about things you have no clue on.
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