News: 71 wounded, 12 killed in midnight showing of The Dark Knight Rises

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#501 CycleOfViolence
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This is James Holmes.

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#503 SteverXIII
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-Make joke

-Someone gets butthurt

-Modded

C'est la vie

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Looking at this thread there are a bunch of morons here.

noscope-ak47

And heres their leader

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#506 CycleOfViolence
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"James Holmes, 24, withdrew abruptly last month from the University of Colorado Medical School, spokeswoman Jacque Montgomery said Friday.

The suspect, who came to Colorado from California, lived in a third-floor apartment in the Denver suburb of North Aurora ? about four miles from the theater where the killings occurred.

Neighbors told the Denver Post that Holmes was a reclusive type who ignored other residents when they said hello.

?No one knew him,? one neighbor told the newspaper. ?No one.?

"In an online rental application last year, Holmes described himself as a ?quiet and easy-going medical student,? the Post reported. He was reportedly seeking his Ph.D. in neuroscience."

From NY Daily News Article (having linking issues)

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/james-holmes-aurora-shooting-suspect-med-school-dropout-loner-neighbors-article-1.1118501?localLinksEnabled=false

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#507 TheFallenDemon
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you only have yourself to blame for that

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#508 CycleOfViolence
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Apparently?

Iszdope

I saw the image on Google Images but now it appears in a Daily News article so no need for the "apparently" anymore.

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#509 Human-after-all
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[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] :lol: I think it's blatantly obvious to everyone who has seen enough of your posts to know you spout nothing but negatives about America. Hypocrite.

Australia has has gun crimes since 1996. Nice to know you don't put any stock in the lives of those killed as long as it isn't sensational enough for you.

LJS9502_basic

Firstly, Give me one example of me hating on America outside of this thread? Last i checked i'm usually defending America. But you do like your lies, Especially if they support your subjective facts.

Secondly, When did i state Australia had no gun crimes? In fact i have admitted as much several times in this very thread, While you're back at school learning to count to 10, Perhaps take some basic english too...

Thirdly, When did i say i didn't care for those who were killed? I don't consider someone who chokes to death a massacre victim either, Doesn't mean i don't have sympathy, But nice try, Making me seem like an apathetic person, Not that's not the first time you've tried that. What was the last accusation, Something about me being responsible for starting heaps of wars or killing millions, I forget. Something about me being Hitler or Stalin no doubt.

Why should I? I used the same tactic you used. You provided no examples. Put up or shut up. Like America? Yeah right. Stop trying to blow smoke up our asses. Your post in this thread was indicative of your thoughts on the US. Second, you continued to uphold Australia as a bastion on what to do to remove incidents like this from happening. There are several of your posts in this very thread where you do that. When presented with some evidence that don't support your claim you flat out ignored it. You seem to be the one lying in this thread dude. As for basic English......seems you are most in need of it. Third I was specifically talking about gun crimes. Don't straw man.

Intentional homicide rate per 100000 people, 2011. United States - 4.8 Canada - 1.62 United Kingdom - 1.23 Australia - 1.16 I would say Australia is 4x the bastion that the USA is. I am going to just assume gun related deaths are probably a lot lower than the USA in comparison to all murder.
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#510 LOXO7
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It's too bad the shooter didn't get shot to death by the police.

CHOASXIII
That would be horrible. Then we would never know who told him to do this. My thought is that he was promised payment of some kind and now the entire country will be punished for this action.
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#511 MgamerBD
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[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]Torture him, make him feel bad. Fvck him up...this is low. I hate when people do evil things without a purpose.Inconsistancy
Would it somehow be better if he had one?

I don't see how shooting up a movie theater can have any purpose at all...
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#512 CHOASXIII
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[QUOTE="CHOASXIII"]

It's too bad the shooter didn't get shot to death by the police.

LOXO7

That would be horrible. Then we would never know who told him to do this. My thought is that he was promised payment of some kind and now the entire country will be punished for this action.

>.> Seems legit.:roll:

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#514 UnknownSniper65
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

Why has it worked in other countries? What makes America different?

Human-after-all

It's worked in other countries? That's news to me.

Intentional homicide rate per 100000 people, 2011. United States - 4.8 Canada - 1.62 United Kingdom - 1.23 Australia - 1.16 I absolutely hate gun registry but something is working. I guess the people are just better. Also gamespot isn't allowing me to have them on separate lines, retarded forum.

The majority of the crimes are commited with guns that are illegally obtained

in 1997 prisoners claimed that nearly 80% of them commited crimes with guns they didn't legally own.

http://www.policyalmanac.org/crime/archive/firearms_and_crime.shtml

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#515 FMAB_GTO
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="CHOASXIII"]

It's too bad the shooter didn't get shot to death by the police.

CHOASXIII

That would be horrible. Then we would never know who told him to do this. My thought is that he was promised payment of some kind and now the entire country will be punished for this action.

>.> Seems legit.:roll:

It is possible darling ;o but most unlikey..im sure thats not the case >.>
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#516 Chris_Williams
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They already talking about dat gun control on the news

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"James Holmes, 24, withdrew abruptly last month from the University of Colorado Medical School, spokeswoman Jacque Montgomery said Friday.

The suspect, who came to Colorado from California, lived in a third-floor apartment in the Denver suburb of North Aurora ? about four miles from the theater where the killings occurred.

Neighbors told the Denver Post that Holmes was a reclusive type who ignored other residents when they said hello.

?No one knew him,? one neighbor told the newspaper. ?No one.?

"In an online rental application last year, Holmes described himself as a ?quiet and easy-going medical student,? the Post reported. He was reportedly seeking his Ph.D. in neuroscience."

From NY Daily News Article (having linking issues)

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/james-holmes-aurora-shooting-suspect-med-school-dropout-loner-neighbors-article-1.1118501?localLinksEnabled=false

CycleOfViolence
Awe man. This is perfect for a National ID card system. A card that you have to show if authorities ask for it. Or more cameras everywhere. "No one knew him." Now we all have to "know" each other. Or at least see each other and our records.
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#518 CHOASXIII
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[QUOTE="CHOASXIII"]

[QUOTE="LOXO7"] That would be horrible. Then we would never know who told him to do this. My thought is that he was promised payment of some kind and now the entire country will be punished for this action.FMAB_GTO

>.> Seems legit.:roll:

It is possible darling ;o but most unlikey..im sure thats not the case >.>

I find it pretty unlikely(but still possible) but the guy that said that was getting at something else.

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#519 l4dak47
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They already talking about dat gun control on the news

Chris_Williams
They always do. Gun control, violent video games, and violent movies are always the 3 topics that gets talked about after a shooting.
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#520 FMAB_GTO
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[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="CHOASXIII"]

>.> Seems legit.:roll:

CHOASXIII

It is possible darling ;o but most unlikey..im sure thats not the case >.>

I find it pretty unlikely(but still possible) but the guy that said that was getting at something else.

Ah,my bad then =)
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#521 Chris_Williams
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I wonder if Nolan is going to speak out on this, I know the movie had nothing to do with this tragedy but you gotta wonder whats going through his head right now.

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#522 noscope-ak47
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[QUOTE="noscope-ak47"]

Looking at this thread there are a bunch of morons here.

IPWNDU2

And heres their leader

Any idoit can take things of of context.

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#523 CycleOfViolence
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

They already talking about dat gun control on the news

l4dak47

They always do. Gun control, violent video games, and violent movies are always the 3 topics that gets talked about after a shooting.

Don't forget about that darn devil music!

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#524 HyperWarlock
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The only person to blame is the person who actually did the deed. Not the parents, movies, games or guns.

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#525 UnknownSniper65
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

They already talking about dat gun control on the news

l4dak47

They always do. Gun control, violent video games, and violent movies are always the 3 topics that gets talked about after a shooting.

People love to talk about the symptoms and not the cause. Some where a long the line someone had to have seen some kind of warning sign that he had problems. The cause of these events is almost always sociological,psychological or even political. If he had the ability to booty trap his house its very doubtful gun control would have stopped him from doing something else. The problem is clearly the reason behind why some would commit a crime like this and not how they do it.

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#526 CHOASXIII
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[QUOTE="CHOASXIII"]

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"] It is possible darling ;o but most unlikey..im sure thats not the case >.>FMAB_GTO

I find it pretty unlikely(but still possible) but the guy that said that was getting at something else.

Ah,my bad then =)

Don't worry. :)

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#527 Michael0134567
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My god,this f*cking world.

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#528 CHOASXIII
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My god,this f*cking world.

Michael0134567

Mhm.

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#529 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

They already talking about dat gun control on the news

UnknownSniper65

They always do. Gun control, violent video games, and violent movies are always the 3 topics that gets talked about after a shooting.

People love to talk about the symptoms and not the cause. Some where a long the line someone had to have seen some kind of warning sign that he had problems. The cause of these events is almost always sociological,psychological or even political. If he had the ability to booty trap his house its very doubtful gun control would have stopped him from doing something else. The problem is clearly the reason behind why some would commit a crime like this and not how they do it.

well you got politicians and the government who want to find any reason to limit our rights and stuff like this gives them the ammo they are looking for.
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#530 LOXO7
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Everyone is saying he acted alone. He didn't put up a fight when he was arrested and said that there may be bombs in his apartment. Doesn't anyone question why he did this? Perhaps there is more to it then just an evil act committed by one person.
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#531 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

Firstly, Give me one example of me hating on America outside of this thread? Last i checked i'm usually defending America. But you do like your lies, Especially if they support your subjective facts.

Secondly, When did i state Australia had no gun crimes? In fact i have admitted as much several times in this very thread, While you're back at school learning to count to 10, Perhaps take some basic english too...

Thirdly, When did i say i didn't care for those who were killed? I don't consider someone who chokes to death a massacre victim either, Doesn't mean i don't have sympathy, But nice try, Making me seem like an apathetic person, Not that's not the first time you've tried that. What was the last accusation, Something about me being responsible for starting heaps of wars or killing millions, I forget. Something about me being Hitler or Stalin no doubt.

Human-after-all
Why should I? I used the same tactic you used. You provided no examples. Put up or shut up. Like America? Yeah right. Stop trying to blow smoke up our asses. Your post in this thread was indicative of your thoughts on the US. Second, you continued to uphold Australia as a bastion on what to do to remove incidents like this from happening. There are several of your posts in this very thread where you do that. When presented with some evidence that don't support your claim you flat out ignored it. You seem to be the one lying in this thread dude. As for basic English......seems you are most in need of it. Third I was specifically talking about gun crimes. Don't straw man.

Intentional homicide rate per 100000 people, 2011. United States - 4.8 Canada - 1.62 United Kingdom - 1.23 Australia - 1.16 I would say Australia is 4x the bastion that the USA is. I am going to just assume gun related deaths are probably a lot lower than the USA in comparison to all murder.

Again.....crimes are mainly committed with ILLEGAL firearms. I'm not sure what seems to be so hard for people to grasp about that.
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#532 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

My god,this f*cking world.

CHOASXIII

Mhm.

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#533 mattisgod01
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[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] :lol: I think it's blatantly obvious to everyone who has seen enough of your posts to know you spout nothing but negatives about America. Hypocrite.

Australia has has gun crimes since 1996. Nice to know you don't put any stock in the lives of those killed as long as it isn't sensational enough for you.

LJS9502_basic

Firstly, Give me one example of me hating on America outside of this thread? Last i checked i'm usually defending America. But you do like your lies, Especially if they support your subjective facts.

Secondly, When did i state Australia had no gun crimes? In fact i have admitted as much several times in this very thread, While you're back at school learning to count to 10, Perhaps take some basic english too...

Thirdly, When did i say i didn't care for those who were killed? I don't consider someone who chokes to death a massacre victim either, Doesn't mean i don't have sympathy, But nice try, Making me seem like an apathetic person, Not that's not the first time you've tried that. What was the last accusation, Something about me being responsible for starting heaps of wars or killing millions, I forget. Something about me being Hitler or Stalin no doubt.

Why should I? I used the same tactic you used. You provided no examples. Put up or shut up. Like America? Yeah right. Stop trying to blow smoke up our asses. Your post in this thread was indicative of your thoughts on the US. Second, you continued to uphold Australia as a bastion on what to do to remove incidents like this from happening. There are several of your posts in this very thread where you do that. When presented with some evidence that don't support your claim you flat out ignored it. You seem to be the one lying in this thread dude. As for basic English......seems you are most in need of it. Third I was specifically talking about gun crimes. Don't straw man.

So in your opinion, If i don't like America 100% i must hate them? Where do you get such narrow views? Is your head so far up your ass you have to loosen your sphincter to view the world?

Where is the Evidence that proves it won't work? I've posted evidence showing it will. Or did you fail to notice that, Or should i say ignore it? The fact it did work in Australia, Are you denying that? If not then why are my claims not valid?

Straw man? You just pulling out random crap again? you made a unfounded claim painting me as apathetic when my criticism was in relation to your poor selection of examples, No straw man. You resorting to such rubbish as a defence has happened before, Shall i post a link?

Where did it change from "Mass shooting" to general gun crimes? I don't recal. Next it will change to whatever you require to support you disproven arguments.

Me not bashing America

http://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29221210/american-police-one-of-the-worst-in-the-world-?page=1

Me not bashing America

http://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29232460/cops-kill-wrong-man-after-knocking-on-wrong-door?page=5

Me not bashing America

http://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29221869/apache-pilot-slammed-for-singing-while-gunning-people-down?page=1

Me not bashing America

http://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29103056/why-do-soldiers-and-military-servicemen-say-they-defend-freedom-of-americans?page=2

Me not bashing America

http://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29230433/should-the-us-intervene-in-syria?page=1

Oh, That almost sounds like Strident defence of America...

http://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29149353/one-of-many-things-of-what-u.s.-soldiers-dodid-in-iraq

Me not bashing America

http://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28877735/could-the-united-states-conquer-the-planet-?page=10

Me not bashing America

http://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28876699/is-it-safe-to-say-that-nazi-germany-would-have-manhandled-america?page=2

Me defending America

http://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28857329/a-funny-video-about-the-conspiracy-theory-of-september-11?page=0

Me defending America

http://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28854317/ok-so-uavs-have-killed-people-in-pakistan-on-the-war-on-terror?page=7

I could go on but i think you get the point. with these links i can also kill 2 birds with one stone, Or discredit 2 LJ lies with one post. They both prove that no only do i refrain from bashing the US in threads open to it, I go as far as to defend America on several occasions. You will also note in these links a trend, LJ is present in almost all and he is, Yes you guessed it, Bashing America, Nah he's not. He is nothing short ff Strident in his defence. Not surprising.

Now I ask that you withdraw you savage lies, And repent for your sins. REPENT!!!!

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[QUOTE="Human-after-all"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Why should I? I used the same tactic you used. You provided no examples. Put up or shut up. Like America? Yeah right. Stop trying to blow smoke up our asses. Your post in this thread was indicative of your thoughts on the US. Second, you continued to uphold Australia as a bastion on what to do to remove incidents like this from happening. There are several of your posts in this very thread where you do that. When presented with some evidence that don't support your claim you flat out ignored it. You seem to be the one lying in this thread dude. As for basic English......seems you are most in need of it. Third I was specifically talking about gun crimes. Don't straw man.LJS9502_basic
Intentional homicide rate per 100000 people, 2011. United States - 4.8 Canada - 1.62 United Kingdom - 1.23 Australia - 1.16 I would say Australia is 4x the bastion that the USA is. I am going to just assume gun related deaths are probably a lot lower than the USA in comparison to all murder.

Again.....crimes are mainly committed with ILLEGAL firearms. I'm not sure what seems to be so hard for people to grasp about that.

Where the Fvck do you think Illegal guns come from? Never mind, The tooth fairly no doubt.

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#535 danygo1996
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Meanwhile there 's 10 people killed everyday in the border of mexico

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#536 LJS9502_basic
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mattisgod01
And if I had nothing better to do with my time I could go through your post history and find the comments you made bashing the US. But unlike you....I have more pressing things to do then spend time trying to find posts in someone's post history. Your first reaction in this thread was to bash America. I don't think you can deny that comment dude. It got quoted enough times. /discussion
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Human-after-all"] Intentional homicide rate per 100000 people, 2011. United States - 4.8 Canada - 1.62 United Kingdom - 1.23 Australia - 1.16 I would say Australia is 4x the bastion that the USA is. I am going to just assume gun related deaths are probably a lot lower than the USA in comparison to all murder. mattisgod01

Again.....crimes are mainly committed with ILLEGAL firearms. I'm not sure what seems to be so hard for people to grasp about that.

Where the Fvck do you think Illegal guns come from? Never mind, The tooth fairly no doubt.

Most guns used in Mexico are taken from the police and military

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#538 mattisgod01
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

They already talking about dat gun control on the news

l4dak47

They always do. Gun control, violent video games, and violent movies are always the 3 topics that gets talked about after a shooting.

Video games and movies unfounded, Guns however were present and did play a key role.

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#539 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Human-after-all"] Intentional homicide rate per 100000 people, 2011. United States - 4.8 Canada - 1.62 United Kingdom - 1.23 Australia - 1.16 I would say Australia is 4x the bastion that the USA is. I am going to just assume gun related deaths are probably a lot lower than the USA in comparison to all murder. mattisgod01

Again.....crimes are mainly committed with ILLEGAL firearms. I'm not sure what seems to be so hard for people to grasp about that.

Where the Fvck do you think Illegal guns come from? Never mind, The tooth fairly no doubt.

Lots of different places I'd assume....like the black market for one. OR have you f*cking never heard of that?
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#540 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

They already talking about dat gun control on the news

mattisgod01

They always do. Gun control, violent video games, and violent movies are always the 3 topics that gets talked about after a shooting.

Video games and movies unfounded, Guns however were present and did play a key role.

Some people are affected by games and movies......
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#541 UnknownSniper65
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

They already talking about dat gun control on the news

mattisgod01

They always do. Gun control, violent video games, and violent movies are always the 3 topics that gets talked about after a shooting.

Video games and movies unfounded, Guns however were present and did play a key role.

No they don't. Someone can do just as much damage with a makeshift explosive. The issue here is an issue with society and mental health. Prevention needs to be directed towards the individual not the method used. Methods will always change to adapt to the situation.

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#542 mattisgod01
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[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Again.....crimes are mainly committed with ILLEGAL firearms. I'm not sure what seems to be so hard for people to grasp about that.UnknownSniper65

Where the Fvck do you think Illegal guns come from? Never mind, The tooth fairly no doubt.

Most guns used in Mexico are taken from the police and military

Alot come across the US border. Cartels are quite good at smuggling things across. It's a common form of payment for drugs. Some Cartels have more money then they can spend, Laterally pallets of it. Guns are more useful currency at times.

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#543 UnknownSniper65
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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

Where the Fvck do you think Illegal guns come from? Never mind, The tooth fairly no doubt.

mattisgod01

Most guns used in Mexico are taken from the police and military

Alot come across the US border. Cartels are quite good at smuggling things across. It's a common form of payment for drugs. Some Cartels have more money then they can spend, Laterally pallets of it. Guns are more useful currency at times.

Most of those weapons are sold to the mexican government and then taken from the military by the cartels.

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#544 noscope-ak47
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The only person to blame is the person who actually did the deed. Not the parents, movies, games or guns.

HyperWarlock

A gun does not kill people it is the person holds the gun that kills people. Yet when a terrorist uses a illegal gun to murder people then some moron thinks that banning guns is the answer. You can order explosives legally on the net and make a bomb with ordinary stuff you can buy at the store. So what you going to do ban everything ??

Anybody that served overseas knows that a IED can be made with almost anything and are almost impossible to stop. So your going to ban everything??

To say that bans work look at drugs in every country there are laws banning them but it still goes on. I can beat,stab,poison,blow up,run over ect a person do you ban all those things then??

If so we should all be walking more people are killed /injured in cars in say the UK than with guns.

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#545 mattisgod01
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[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] They always do. Gun control, violent video games, and violent movies are always the 3 topics that gets talked about after a shooting. UnknownSniper65

Video games and movies unfounded, Guns however were present and did play a key role.

No they don't. Someone can do just as much damage with a makeshift explosive. The issue here is an issue with society and mental health. Prevention needs to be directed towards the individual not the method used. Methods will always change to adapt to the situation.

Tell Terrorists that. They seem to have trouble with the whole makeshift bomb thing. But guns did play a key role here...They are what you'd call "The Murder Weapon"

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Me defending America

http://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28857329/a-funny-video-about-the-conspiracy-theory-of-september-11?page=0

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I could go on but i think you get the point. with these links i can also kill 2 birds with one stone, Or discredit 2 LJ lies with one post. They both prove that no only do i refrain from bashing the US in threads open to it, I go as far as to defend America on several occasions. You will also note in these links a trend, LJ is present in almost all and he is, Yes you guessed it, Bashing America, Nah he's not. He is nothing short ff Strident in his defence. Not surprising.

Now I ask that you withdraw you savage lies, And repent for your sins. REPENT!!!!

mattisgod01

That one is not defending America. It's you ridiculing Americans who think a certain way. This is the only link I looked at. Maybe I got the only one?

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#547 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

Video games and movies unfounded, Guns however were present and did play a key role.

mattisgod01

No they don't. Someone can do just as much damage with a makeshift explosive. The issue here is an issue with society and mental health. Prevention needs to be directed towards the individual not the method used. Methods will always change to adapt to the situation.

Tell Terrorists that. They seem to have trouble with the whole makeshift bomb thing. But guns did play a key role here...They are what you'd call "The Murder Weapon"

You know if someone wants to kill an entire group of people but can't acquire a firearm they can create makeshift bombs? If someone wants to kill...they will find a way. Period. Blaming it on the guns is not the issue. It's naive.
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#548 UnknownSniper65
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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

Video games and movies unfounded, Guns however were present and did play a key role.

mattisgod01

No they don't. Someone can do just as much damage with a makeshift explosive. The issue here is an issue with society and mental health. Prevention needs to be directed towards the individual not the method used. Methods will always change to adapt to the situation.

Tell Terrorists that. They seem to have trouble with the whole makeshift bomb thing. But guns did play a key role here...They are what you'd call "The Murder Weapon"

IEDs were among the most deadly weapons used in Iraq and Afghanistan. These are untrained individuals doing this during a time of war. Not somebody who has all the time in the world to plan.

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#549 mattisgod01
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[QUOTE="HyperWarlock"]

The only person to blame is the person who actually did the deed. Not the parents, movies, games or guns.

noscope-ak47

A gun does not kill people it is the person holds the gun that kills people. Yet when a terrorist uses a illegal gun to murder people then some moron thinks that banning guns is the answer. You can order explosives legally on the net and make a bomb with ordinary stuff you can buy at the store. So what you going to do ban everything ??

Anybody that served overseas knows that a IED can be made with almost anything and are almost impossible to stop. So your going to ban everything??

To say that bans work look at drugs in every country there are laws banning them but it still goes on. I can beat,stab,poison,blow up,run over ect a person do you ban all those things then??

If so we should all be walking more people are killed /injured in cars in say the UK than with guns.

In a country with no shortage of Mortars and Rockets etc. They can be made easily. The US has been very successful in recent years preventing Terrorists using bombs.

It's true cars are more dangerous but cars serve a more justifiable purpose in society.

If hypothetically you could remove all guns in the US, And keep them out. Would you prefer that option?

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#550 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Again.....crimes are mainly committed with ILLEGAL firearms. I'm not sure what seems to be so hard for people to grasp about that.UnknownSniper65

Where the Fvck do you think Illegal guns come from? Never mind, The tooth fairly no doubt.

Most guns used in Mexico are taken from the police and military

Whoa. Continue with more information please. Taken? Are you sure? Taken by force? Or stolen? Or given?