what are you talking about? the helth care will do a lot more harm then help with anything. it will but $138 billion in 10 years but also becuase we will have to borrow money for this it will add close to $900 billion in 10 years how is that going to lower the defecit?
Prove that we have to borrow money to pay for it.
this bill will force ALL Americans to get health insurance. if not then the IRS will fine you and the fines will go up year after year. the government is now going to force me to buy something i can not afford in the 1st place? yes the government (gov) will help me out with paying only part of the insurance (plan) but right now the way things are with money a extra cost over $50 is bad for me! so ill be force to spend money i dont have. but i have to get by law or get punished.
The govt will help people who make up to a certain amount above the poverty line pay for it, this amount is currently around $88000 but will change as the poverty level changes.
anyone with a pre-condition will not get help. the bill did not regulate the insurance company's. they are not forced to say no to very high risk health people all they, have to do is give them a very high plan that government help will still not be enough to lower the cost. this is a very high possibility that might and can happen. if not they will be put into a very high health risk pool.
Pre-existing conditions are banned. They are forced to say yes to those people.
http://www.healthcare.gov/law/timeline/index.html
the IRS is going to get close to 17,000 new agents to over see this. they will make sure we get the right plan with the right coverage if not they will fine us.
The IRS doesn't decide your plan or what it covers, that is entirely up to you.
also this bill will make any businesses that has over 50 workers get insurance for them if not then they will get fined by the IRS $2000 for each worker after 30 workers. this will make comapnys even more small businesses lay off workers to 49 the rest will get the pink slip. how is that going to help the economy if it will put a lot more people out of work and more businesses to close there doors and make it even more harder for anyone to find work.
Where did that $2000 figure come from, it is also after 50 workers, not 30. All previous attempts at universal healthcare from both parties included an employer mandate, this does not.
also this bill will cut the nations debits by $138 billion in 10 years but also its going to add $900 billion in 10 years on top of it, how is this going to lower our debit? plus health cost always goes up it, it never goes down so we will always keep putting more money into this!
House Democrats defended the new package, which received a major boost Thursday when the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office projected that it would reduce deficits by about $138 billion over the next 10 years and by about $1.2 trillion in the decade thereafter.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/18/AR2010031801153.html
anyone making over $88,000 will not get help by the government they are on there own to get insurance doesnt matter how much it will cost them if they dont get coverage the IRS will fine them. anyone making under $88,000 will get help by the government to help pay for there plans but still we have to get coverage and pay for the remaining that was not paid. any family of 4 making less then $24,000 will get free coverage from the government.
Again that $88,000 number is not static and furthermore it's not like people making that much don't have healthcare already through work (usually professional) or privately bought.
also this bill is only to help pay for coverage. not to pay features a plan have. so we can pay a plan for $50 a month, but the plan says you pay $20 per visit and what if you have 2 or more visits in one month? what if you get coverage that the plan will says you pay only $10 per bottle of pills you need to get. and i know people that gets about 5+ bottles when they need to refill. so the cost starts to add up.
Again the plan you choose is entirely up to you.
Where is all this money going to come from to fund all this!? 1st anyone making $200,000 a year will get hit with a tax for this. there will be a pay roll tax meaning we might get more money taken out from our pay checks for anyone working with a W2 form to pay for this. We are going to end up borrowing more money and that will bring our debits even more higher this also will bring more higher tax to the working middle ****
This law will reduce our spending by over a trillion in the next decade. We have the most expensive healthcare system in the world and also the least accessible compared to other OECD nations. We pay over double what the other OECD countries pay for care and yet we don't even have 100% coverage.
this is not things im just saying this is all in the bill! read it and see it. this is communism, how are you going to tell me this is not? if the government is going to force me to buy something even more i cant afford it and if not ill get punished for it? the IRS with the new agents to over see this, IS the new KGB if you are not seeing this as a big threat to our nation then i dont know what to say.
Communism in a bill that doesn't change the completely private system that we have. Right...
You are forced to pay for other people's roads, education and security among others. The bill doesn't even make you pay for everyone else's care.
our nation is becoming the new USSR but it will be the USSA. if this keeps up and if we dont stop this now. what makes you think they wont pass more bills that will force us to do things we can not afford and will get punished for it!?
OMG THE PUBLIC LIBRARIES ARE CAUSING US TO BECOME COMMUNIST NAZIS!
this bill is going to cost us to much money that the government later down the road will start to say no to people for health coverage because it will cost the government to much money to keep them in the hospital like the soveits did in the USSR. this is not a wide overreacting idea it is possable cant you see that history is repeating it self!
Again it will save us money, you don't seem to understand that reform of some kind needed to happen. Our costs are simply too high to sustain and would have bankrupted us. Also have Britain or Canada turned into the USSR yet? It's been almost 60 years since they socialized their health care system (for britain) and their health insurance (for canada) both of which we did not do. The swiss implemented universal care in 1994 while keeping their system completely private like ours. I don't see pictures of the dear leader in their streets.
http://assets.opencrs.com/rpts/RL34175_20070917.pdf
where i got that $2000 figure? umm read it in the bill it self. and yes it is after 30 workers. not 50 but even if its after all 50 workers the company will be punished thats just even worse. and this forces company to give employees health coverage. how is that going to help small businesses? tell me how? its putting a gun ito ther head. but they are lay off till 49 workers and they will just dodge the unfair law.
we will have to borrow money for this because we are BROKE! OMFG right now America is printing paper left and right with nothing to back it up witth not even even gold dust. people health coverage always goes up never goes down thus will mean we wil have to keep spending money on people. right now the public health system is so broken i tell u to go to a LA county hospital and see how horrible it is waiting in line for hours on end even a day. and we will have to pay for everything. there are more people that will get government run health care then Private health care. and where will that money come from? money dont grow on trees. people are losing jobs left and right. we will have to borrow to pay the bills use some common sense.
China is still forking over money to pay our bills today. im not surprise why they are not saying no to us. but China's market and there money is growing far pass the US market and money value.
yes the government will help pay for it. but its the government is the government they dont like to help people but only collect money from the people. how much do you think they will help pay for premiums? maybe half? so if someone right now is paying $600 a month the government helps with half thats still $300 a month that person will have to pay and most people will cant pay $300 a month for coverage.
to name one company because of this bill no insurance company is NOW have to say yes to anyone no matter what they have. Blue Cross a few days ago said they will no longer sell coverage for kids because they have to say yes to kid that have problems already they sai no. no more coverage for kids who wants to sign up for it they just completely dropped it.
yes other nations like England have a government ran health care system. but why do you think they pay $9 per gallon? why do you think its so expensive to live over there? taxes and fee that needs to pay bills like health care from the government.
and dont be a fool im not saying libraries are causing us to be Nazis. this is a law that is going into our lives and forcing everyone to do something we can not afford. and will mean more businesses will go out of business and people lose there jobs
taxes paying for roads schools and what not is good.
this law is out right very unfair.
i just cant wait to see you in a line waiting out side a food bank and see you take you food to a card board house u call home in a few years.
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