Obama vs McCain who would you vote for ?

McCain.

Obama. four more years with a republican in office and I might go postal. I'm fed up with the federal government ATM. Darthmatt

that dosent make sense, why would you vote for obama who wants MORE federal government? Republicans = Small government

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]Obama. four more years with a republican in office and I might go postal. I'm fed up with the federal government ATM. H8sMikeMoore

that dosent make sense, why would you vote for obama who wants MORE federal government? Republicans = Small government

Not anymore. You must be thinking of the 1970's, which is when the last republican reduced government spending. As a matter of fact, Bill Clinton reduced government more than any of the last 4 republican presidents!:o

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]Obama. four more years with a republican in office and I might go postal. I'm fed up with the federal government ATM. H8sMikeMoore

A small government means that only a select few make decisions with very little democracy.

that dosent make sense, why would you vote for obama who wants MORE federal government? Republicans = Small government

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[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]Obama. four more years with a republican in office and I might go postal. I'm fed up with the federal government ATM. Engrish_Major

that dosent make sense, why would you vote for obama who wants MORE federal government? Republicans = Small government

Not anymore. You must be thinking of the 1970's, which is when the last republican reduced government spending. As a matter of fact, Bill Clinton reduced government more than any of the last 4 republican presidents!:o

he didnt reduce government, he jsut managed the big government better. Ill be the first to admit the republicans havent been up to par. But if more people were INTERESTED in small government and knew what it was about and how its all about more freedom, im sure we would have better guys.

Ronald Reagan was good, but for some reason he couldnt cut the spending even though the taxes were.

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[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]Obama. four more years with a republican in office and I might go postal. I'm fed up with the federal government ATM. Boba_Fett_3710

A small government means that only a select few make decisions with very little democracy.

that dosent make sense, why would you vote for obama who wants MORE federal government? Republicans = Small government

The republican party is based off of minority rights.

If the majority of people on here voted that you had to become a scientologist, would you want to? Majority rules in democracy. In a republic, the majority only has so many rights to protect a minority

McCain.

Then again I'd vote for a badger before any democrat.

Obama. four more years with a republican in office and I might go postal. I'm fed up with the federal government ATM. Darthmatt

same here. i'm also ready for someone a little younger in the white house. i'm tired of old white guys running things (no racism intended)

Neither. I'd prefer Mike Gravel.espoac

im a little weirded out by him. how can someone be a democrat and then a libertarian all in the same year?

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[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]Obama. four more years with a republican in office and I might go postal. I'm fed up with the federal government ATM. Boba_Fett_3710

that dosent make sense, why would you vote for obama who wants MORE federal government? Republicans = Small government

No, actually, it means the exact opposite. Small government means all individuals make their own choices without the government telling them what to do, or how to spend their money. Democracy should be limited anyway. No one should be able to take another man's rights.

[QUOTE="espoac"]Neither. I'd prefer Mike Gravel.H8sMikeMoore

im a little weirded out by him. how can someone be a democrat and then a libertarian all in the same year?

Social reasons? Libs and libertarians find some common ground there.

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[QUOTE="espoac"]Neither. I'd prefer Mike Gravel.Rhazakna

im a little weirded out by him. how can someone be a democrat and then a libertarian all in the same year?

Social reasons? Libs and libertarians find some common ground there.

true, but the economics are quite different. at least historically

[QUOTE="espoac"]Neither. I'd prefer Mike Gravel.H8sMikeMoore

im a little weirded out by him. how can someone be a democrat and then a libertarian all in the same year?

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[QUOTE="espoac"]Neither. I'd prefer Mike Gravel.H8sMikeMoore

im a little weirded out by him. how can someone be a democrat and then a libertarian all in the same year?

Social reasons? Libs and libertarians find some common ground there.

true, but the economics are quite different. at least historically

Yeah, but it's not like the republicans have been implementing classical liberal economics recently. Quite the opposite, actually.

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[QUOTE="espoac"]Neither. I'd prefer Mike Gravel.espoac

im a little weirded out by him. how can someone be a democrat and then a libertarian all in the same year?

Same here. Gravel and Kucinich (sp?) were the best, I think. Wish we could have more like them in the US.

McCain. . . .as far as I know, he doesn't emotionally attach himself to people who think America is an evil empire that created AIDS. . . . .Dracargen

john hagee.

and obama disavowed wright. mccain did not do the same for hagee.

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]McCain. . . .as far as I know, he doesn't emotionally attach himself to people who think America is an evil empire that created AIDS. . . . .Ontain

john hagee.

and obama disavowed wright. mccain did not do the same for hagee.

Hagee doesn't blame the American government for creating AIDS. . . . .

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[QUOTE="Dracargen"]McCain. . . .as far as I know, he doesn't emotionally attach himself to people who think America is an evil empire that created AIDS. . . . .Dracargen

john hagee.

and obama disavowed wright. mccain did not do the same for hagee.

Hagee doesn't blame the American government for creating AIDS. . . . .

But last time I checked he blamed Katrina on homosexuals.

john hagee.

and obama disavowed wright. mccain did not do the same for hagee.

Ontain

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[QUOTE="Dracargen"]McCain. . . .as far as I know, he doesn't emotionally attach himself to people who think America is an evil empire that created AIDS. . . . .Engrish_Major

john hagee.

and obama disavowed wright. mccain did not do the same for hagee.

Hagee doesn't blame the American government for creating AIDS. . . . .

But last time I checked he blamed Katrina on homosexuals.

Link to his speech?

Link to his speech?

Dracargen

It was during an NPR interview. More info about it here.

Obama. four more years with a republican in office and I might go postal. I'm fed up with the federal government ATM. Darthmatt

If you're fed up with the federal government, why would you vote in the party that wants to *increase* it's size and control, not decrease it? McCain, like the more traditional republicans, seeks a massive downsize of the government, especially with concerns to wasteful programs and earmarks.

Anyway, i'm sure everyone knows who i'm voting for, McCain. Last thing we need is the poster-child for inexperience.

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]Obama. four more years with a republican in office and I might go postal. I'm fed up with the federal government ATM. Tolwan

If you're fed up with the federal government, why would you vote in the party that wants to *increase* it's size and control, not decrease it? McCain, like the more traditional republicans, seeks a massive downsize of the government, especially with concerns to wasteful programs and earmarks.

Anyway, i'm sure everyone knows who i'm voting for, McCain. Last thing we need is the poster-child for inexperience.

Yeah, because experience has worked SO well for the current guys. To some, inexperience in Washington is a good thing, especially in times like this when corporate ties have so much pull in policy.

To some, inexperience in Washington is a good thingEngrish_Major

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]McCain. . . .as far as I know, he doesn't emotionally attach himself to people who think America is an evil empire that created AIDS. . . . .Ontain

john hagee.

and obama disavowed wright. mccain did not do the same for hagee.

John Hagree is not John McCain's friend, pastor, nor was on any of his committees. Hagee didn't bring John McCain to Jesus. Hagee didn't pray with John McCain before announcing his candidacy . John Hagee didn't baptize John McCain's children. Hagee didn't proside over the wedding of John McCain and his wife.

Theres a reason why nobody brings up John Hagee and John McCain, because aside from the endorsement, which McCain can't do anything about (Louis Farrakhan endorsed Obama, though Obama denounced him), because its a very weak argument.

If John McCain's pastor, whoever he might be, actually stood at his pulpit, and said things like "Black people are holding America back" or "God Damn America" or gave an award to the Grand Wizard of the KKK, I gauruntee, the media would be all over it, and John McCain's political career would be over, and no one would be buying the whole "I didn't know he said that" excuse. I mean for crying out loud, you can buy Jeremiah Wright's services on DVD from the Church.

I'm voting for John McCain. I don't agree with everything he says, but I don't support socialist ideals and I don't trust "speeches."

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Link to his speech?

Engrish_Major

It was during an NPR interview. More info about it here.

Ah, thanks.

Now can you show me where McCain said that he attended Hagee's church for twenty years, was married by Hagee, put Hagee on his campaign trail and took his children to Hagee's church their whole lives? Or how Hagee is different from any of the other 20,000 people who support McCain?

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Link to his speech?

Dracargen

It was during an NPR interview. More info about it here.

Ah, thanks.

Now can you show me where McCain said that he attended Hagee's church for twenty years, was married by Hagee, put Hagee on his campaign trail and took his children to his church their whole lives? Or how Hagee is different from any of the other 20,000 people who support McCain?

Never said that. You just seemed to be defending him.

Yes, i'm sure inexperience will come in handy when it comes to the future of yoru children and the security of our country. Oh, maybe not. We just need a better person who has experience, not a person who is just plain inexperienced. To think that a person inexperienced will be an unbiased perfect candidate has got to be on the top 10 of ignorant statements.Tolwan

I have agreed with all of his decisions and accomplishments so far in his short time in office.

Yes, i'm sure inexperience will come in handy when it comes to the future of yoru children and the security of our country. Oh, maybe not. We just need a better person who has experience, not a person who is just plain inexperienced. To think that a person inexperienced will be an unbiased perfect candidate has got to be on the top 10 of ignorant statements.Tolwan