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#101 AgileNate
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[QUOTE="bman784"]RiSkyBiZ-13, the KKK and Hitler (Godwin's Law) analogies show that you're not really interested in maintaining a reasonable dialogue. Wright's comments are not THAT bad, at least no where near engendering comparisons of that magnitude. As I said, the arguments against Obama on this issue have really become quite hyperbolic.Rikusaki

Yeah, people are overreacting.

And no one over-reacted to other cases such as the Don Imus one?

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#102 bman784
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="bman784"]RiSkyBiZ-13, the KKK and Hitler (Godwin's Law) analogies show that you're not really interested in maintaining a reasonable dialogue. Wright's comments are not THAT bad, at least no where near engendering comparisons of that magnitude. As I said, the arguments against Obama on this issue have really become quite hyperbolic.AgileNate

Yeah, people are overreacting.

And no one over-reacted to other cases such as the Don Imus one?

How is that relevant?
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#103 Steingrimur
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They have a close relationship, I guess... I have friends whose political views are utterly disturbing, but they can be good friends nonetheless
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#104 scorch-62
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"]I haven't paid enough attention to see if anyone said this already, but here goes... This is old. Obama has the Democratic nomination. It didn't affect his campaign at all. Stop bringing it up because you don't have anything else to say. That is all.LJS9502_basic

Not to point out the obvious....but the election isn't over.:|

I never said it was. I'm just saying that now this is getting to be ****-slinging nonsense.

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#105 AgileNate
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[QUOTE="AgileNate"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="bman784"]RiSkyBiZ-13, the KKK and Hitler (Godwin's Law) analogies show that you're not really interested in maintaining a reasonable dialogue. Wright's comments are not THAT bad, at least no where near engendering comparisons of that magnitude. As I said, the arguments against Obama on this issue have really become quite hyperbolic.bman784

Yeah, people are overreacting.

And no one over-reacted to other cases such as the Don Imus one?

How is that relevant?

He said people are over-reacting. I brought up a similiar case in which was over-reacted and didnt end up so pleasant. Meaning, of course this Obama thing is going to be looked at seriously, the dude is running for president!!!

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#106 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"]

I haven't paid enough attention to see if anyone said this already, but here goes... This is old. Obama has the Democratic nomination. It didn't affect his campaign at all. Stop bringing it up because you don't have anything else to say. That is all.

LJS9502_basic

Not to point out the obvious....but the election isn't over.:|

He's still winning, though.

He has been ahead in the national polls for a long time now.

Source

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I never said it was. I'm just saying that now this is getting to be ****-slinging nonsense.

scorch-62
His character should be examined...he wants to be president. The problem with politics is people make too much of some things and light of others.
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#108 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]

I haven't paid enough attention to see if anyone said this already, but here goes... This is old. Obama has the Democratic nomination. It didn't affect his campaign at all. Stop bringing it up because you don't have anything else to say. That is all.

Rikusaki

Not to point out the obvious....but the election isn't over.:|

He's still winning, though.

He has been ahead in the national polls for a long time now.

There is no winning until election day....:lol:
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#109 fat_rob
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]

I haven't paid enough attention to see if anyone said this already, but here goes... This is old. Obama has the Democratic nomination. It didn't affect his campaign at all. Stop bringing it up because you don't have anything else to say. That is all.

Rikusaki

Not to point out the obvious....but the election isn't over.:|

He's still winning, though.

He has been ahead in the national polls for a long time now.

national polls don't mean anything...Kerry was ahead in the early polls too
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#110 bman784
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[QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="AgileNate"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="bman784"]RiSkyBiZ-13, the KKK and Hitler (Godwin's Law) analogies show that you're not really interested in maintaining a reasonable dialogue. Wright's comments are not THAT bad, at least no where near engendering comparisons of that magnitude. As I said, the arguments against Obama on this issue have really become quite hyperbolic.AgileNate

Yeah, people are overreacting.

And no one over-reacted to other cases such as the Don Imus one?

How is that relevant?

He said people are over-reacting. I brought up a similiar case in which was over-reacted and didnt end up so pleasant. Meaning, of course this Obama thing is going to be looked at seriously, the dude is running for president!!!

Maybe two months ago, but the Wright thing has kind of gone away at this point. It's pointless to dwell on it if you're in opposition to Obama. There are plenty of better things you could oppose.
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#111 tbone29
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One equally ignorant person could make the same argument with Barack being Anti-Black.
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#112 fat_rob
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"]

I never said it was. I'm just saying that now this is getting to be ****-slinging nonsense.

LJS9502_basic
His character should be examined...he wants to be president. The problem with politics is people make too much of some things and light of others.

Meh...Bush was considered a person of strong character and he was an awful president...
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#113 Fele7
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if you dont believe me your clearly fool.

Everyone is a bit of a liar , egoist , ignorant , racist . EVERY SINGLE MTHFKN PERSON

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#114 AgileNate
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[QUOTE="AgileNate"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="AgileNate"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="bman784"]RiSkyBiZ-13, the KKK and Hitler (Godwin's Law) analogies show that you're not really interested in maintaining a reasonable dialogue. Wright's comments are not THAT bad, at least no where near engendering comparisons of that magnitude. As I said, the arguments against Obama on this issue have really become quite hyperbolic.bman784

Yeah, people are overreacting.

And no one over-reacted to other cases such as the Don Imus one?

How is that relevant?

He said people are over-reacting. I brought up a similiar case in which was over-reacted and didnt end up so pleasant. Meaning, of course this Obama thing is going to be looked at seriously, the dude is running for president!!!

Maybe two months ago, but the Wright thing has kind of gone away at this point. It's pointless to dwell on it if you're in opposition to Obama. There are plenty of better things you could oppose.

I agree big time. I could care less about this racial thing. Its not the reason I am voting for the other guy.

Im just saying it will linger around like the Imus situation whether you like it or not. Last week Imus was mentioned on ESPN because he was talking about Adam "Pacman" Jones, who is black.

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#115 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]His character should be examined...he wants to be president. The problem with politics is people make too much of some things and light of others.fat_rob
Meh...Bush was considered a person of strong character and he was an awful president...

Not by me he wasn't....
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Obama is not rev...Please
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#117 fat_rob
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[QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="AgileNate"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="AgileNate"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="bman784"]RiSkyBiZ-13, the KKK and Hitler (Godwin's Law) analogies show that you're not really interested in maintaining a reasonable dialogue. Wright's comments are not THAT bad, at least no where near engendering comparisons of that magnitude. As I said, the arguments against Obama on this issue have really become quite hyperbolic.AgileNate

Yeah, people are overreacting.

And no one over-reacted to other cases such as the Don Imus one?

How is that relevant?

He said people are over-reacting. I brought up a similiar case in which was over-reacted and didnt end up so pleasant. Meaning, of course this Obama thing is going to be looked at seriously, the dude is running for president!!!

Maybe two months ago, but the Wright thing has kind of gone away at this point. It's pointless to dwell on it if you're in opposition to Obama. There are plenty of better things you could oppose.

I agree big time. I could care less about this racial thing. Its not the reason I am voting for the other guy.

Im just saying it will linger around like the Imus situation whether you like it or not. Last week Imus was mentioned on ESPN because he was talking about Adam "Pacman" Jones, who is black.

Yeah, but that was because Imus made another dumb ass comment that was based on race...it had nothing to do with his previous comments...
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#118 LJS9502_basic
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if you dont believe me your clearly fool.

Everyone is a bit of a liar , egoist , ignorant , racist . EVERY SINGLE PERSON

Fele7
Not true.....generalizations are never 100%...:roll:
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#119 RiSkyBiZ-13
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[QUOTE="AgileNate"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="AgileNate"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="bman784"]RiSkyBiZ-13, the KKK and Hitler (Godwin's Law) analogies show that you're not really interested in maintaining a reasonable dialogue. Wright's comments are not THAT bad, at least no where near engendering comparisons of that magnitude. As I said, the arguments against Obama on this issue have really become quite hyperbolic.bman784

Yeah, people are overreacting.

And no one over-reacted to other cases such as the Don Imus one?

How is that relevant?

He said people are over-reacting. I brought up a similiar case in which was over-reacted and didnt end up so pleasant. Meaning, of course this Obama thing is going to be looked at seriously, the dude is running for president!!!

Maybe two months ago, but the Wright thing has kind of gone away at this point. It's pointless to dwell on it if you're in opposition to Obama. There are plenty of better things you could oppose.

Being a white male, and proud of my country (despite it's political flaws), this is a very big thing to oppose. I'm sorry if I won't so easily wipe that slate clean. I'm not a big fan of anyone who tolerates or supports anti-white anti-American propoganda. Like I said in the original post, I don't expect to change anyone's mind. Obama supporters have been so brainwashed by the media and his own charisma that they choose to ignore things like this, I only enjoy the excuses that are thrown all over this thread.

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#120 AgileNate
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[QUOTE="Fele7"]

if you dont believe me your clearly fool.

Everyone is a bit of a liar , egoist , ignorant , racist . EVERY SINGLE PERSON

LJS9502_basic

Not true.....generalizations are never 100%...:roll:

Still a high percentage:P

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#121 fat_rob
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]His character should be examined...he wants to be president. The problem with politics is people make too much of some things and light of others.LJS9502_basic
Meh...Bush was considered a person of strong character and he was an awful president...

Not by me he wasn't....

that's nice, but that doesn't negate the fact that conservatives considered Bush a person of strong moral character...said he was goning to bring dignity back to the white house...
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#122 rudyroundhead
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WOW! Some people really do believe the hype.
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#123 AgileNate
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]His character should be examined...he wants to be president. The problem with politics is people make too much of some things and light of others.fat_rob
Meh...Bush was considered a person of strong character and he was an awful president...

Not by me he wasn't....

that's nice, but that doesn't negate the fact that conservatives considered Bush a person of strong moral character...said he was goning to bring dignity back to the white house...

Many conservatives try not to associate with Bush.

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#124 fat_rob
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]His character should be examined...he wants to be president. The problem with politics is people make too much of some things and light of others.AgileNate

Meh...Bush was considered a person of strong character and he was an awful president...

Not by me he wasn't....

that's nice, but that doesn't negate the fact that conservatives considered Bush a person of strong moral character...said he was goning to bring dignity back to the white house...

Many conservatives try not to associate with Bush.

Now they don't...but back in 2000 he was their savior...
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#125 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]His character should be examined...he wants to be president. The problem with politics is people make too much of some things and light of others.fat_rob
Meh...Bush was considered a person of strong character and he was an awful president...

Not by me he wasn't....

that's nice, but that doesn't negate the fact that conservatives considered Bush a person of strong moral character...said he was goning to bring dignity back to the white house...

Well you know what they say about two wrongs...
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#126 fat_rob
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]His character should be examined...he wants to be president. The problem with politics is people make too much of some things and light of others.LJS9502_basic
Meh...Bush was considered a person of strong character and he was an awful president...

Not by me he wasn't....

that's nice, but that doesn't negate the fact that conservatives considered Bush a person of strong moral character...said he was goning to bring dignity back to the white house...

Well you know what they say about two wrongs...

they make a Wright?
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#127 RiSkyBiZ-13
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WOW! Some people really do believe the hype.rudyroundhead

Did you watch the video? Read Rev. Wright's quotes? Have you read how connected Rev. Wright has been to Obama throughout his life? No? Didn't think so.

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#128 LJS9502_basic
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they make a Wright?fat_rob
Very topical of you....
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#129 fat_rob
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[QUOTE="rudyroundhead"]WOW! Some people really do believe the hype.RiSkyBiZ-13

Did you watch the video? Read Rev. Wright's quotes? Have you read how connected Rev. Wright has been to Obama throughout his life? No? Didn't think so.

I have...and I still don't care about this issue...it's old news

Obama '08

Get used to it :D

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#130 fat_rob
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"] they make a Wright?LJS9502_basic
Very topical of you....

why thank you :D...anyway people need to get over jeremiah wrong pastor...Obama done threw him under the bus already...what's more important is his pakistan policy...that thing would be a real problem...
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I wouldn't doubt that he's racist, but I don't care, if he ever actually showed it, he wouldn't be president for long.
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I wouldn't doubt that he's racist, but I don't care, if he ever actually showed it, he wouldn't be president for long.-R3Vo
is a racist still bad if they never act on it?
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#133 RiSkyBiZ-13
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="fat_rob"] they make a Wright?fat_rob
Very topical of you....

why thank you :D...anyway people need to get over jeremiah wrong pastor...Obama done threw him under the bus already...what's more important is his pakistan policy...that thing would be a real problem...

Throwing him under the bus was a political move, nothing more.

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[QUOTE="-R3Vo"]I wouldn't doubt that he's racist, but I don't care, if he ever actually showed it, he wouldn't be president for long.Mr_sprinkles
is a racist still bad if they never act on it?

If they never act on it I don't see a difference.

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[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="-R3Vo"]I wouldn't doubt that he's racist, but I don't care, if he ever actually showed it, he wouldn't be president for long.-R3Vo

is a racist still bad if they never act on it?

If they never act on it I don't see a difference.

So are you saying racism is okay as long as it's not acted upon? Ideas cause damage.
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#136 fat_rob
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="fat_rob"] they make a Wright?RiSkyBiZ-13

Very topical of you....

why thank you :D...anyway people need to get over jeremiah wrong pastor...Obama done threw him under the bus already...what's more important is his pakistan policy...that thing would be a real problem...

Throwing him under the bus was a political move, nothing more.

yeah, and so was McCain apologizing for not supporting MLK day...who gives a **** dude...it's politics the whole thing is bullish...
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#137 RiSkyBiZ-13
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[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="-R3Vo"]I wouldn't doubt that he's racist, but I don't care, if he ever actually showed it, he wouldn't be president for long.-R3Vo

is a racist still bad if they never act on it?

If they never act on it I don't see a difference.

We're not talking about your average joe, this guy is going to run the country- about to be the most powerful man in the world. Hardly a spot for a closet racist.

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#138 fat_rob
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[QUOTE="-R3Vo"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="-R3Vo"]I wouldn't doubt that he's racist, but I don't care, if he ever actually showed it, he wouldn't be president for long.LJS9502_basic

is a racist still bad if they never act on it?

If they never act on it I don't see a difference.

So are you saying racism is okay as long as it's not acted upon? Ideas cause damage.

Hey, everyone's a little bit racist

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#139 DisabledMess
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What do the polls say?
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#140 Mr_sprinkles
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[QUOTE="-R3Vo"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="-R3Vo"]I wouldn't doubt that he's racist, but I don't care, if he ever actually showed it, he wouldn't be president for long.RiSkyBiZ-13

is a racist still bad if they never act on it?

If they never act on it I don't see a difference.

We're not talking about your average joe, this guy is going to run the country- about to be the most powerful man in the world. Hardly a spot for a closet racist.

If it doesn't affect policy or influence decision making, whats the problem?
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#141 fat_rob
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[QUOTE="-R3Vo"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="-R3Vo"]I wouldn't doubt that he's racist, but I don't care, if he ever actually showed it, he wouldn't be president for long.RiSkyBiZ-13

is a racist still bad if they never act on it?

If they never act on it I don't see a difference.

We're not talking about your average joe, this guy is going to run the country- about to be the most powerful man in the world. Hardly a spot for a closet racist.

Hmmm....
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#142 king23_
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[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"][QUOTE="-R3Vo"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="-R3Vo"]I wouldn't doubt that he's racist, but I don't care, if he ever actually showed it, he wouldn't be president for long.fat_rob

is a racist still bad if they never act on it?

If they never act on it I don't see a difference.

We're not talking about your average joe, this guy is going to run the country- about to be the most powerful man in the world. Hardly a spot for a closet racist.

Hmmm....

:lol: Lol I remember that.
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#143 jbz7890
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I am amazed how people are under the assumption that only white people can be racist. Black people are actually more racist than whites. Many blacks hate white people and blame them for all of their problems. Its no wonder that every time you turn on the news you see that another black man has killed a white police officer or raped a white woman.
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#144 FearTheRain
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Since when was Rev. Wright Barack Obama?MattUD1

FAIL. It's a fact that religon does create a persons views. Stop skipping school.

Barack Obama is not a good candidate for President. He has flipped on EVERY issue.

One minute he is against the war, the next he is for the war.

One minute he is against aid to Isreal, the next minute is wants to give more support than bush.

Barack Obama and John McCain are complete liars and offer NO change whatsoever.

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#145 fat_rob
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I am amazed how people are under the assumption that only white people can be racist. Black people are actually more racist than whites. Many blacks hate white people and blame them for all of their problems. Its no wonder that every time you turn on the news you see that another black man has killed a white police officer or raped a white woman.jbz7890
wow...just wow....
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#146 jbz7890
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[QUOTE="MattUD1"]Since when was Rev. Wright Barack Obama?FearTheRain

FAIL. It's a fact that religon does create a persons views. Stop skipping school.

Barack Obama is not a good candidate for President. He has flipped on EVERY issue.

One minute he is against the war, the next he is for the war.

One minute he is against aid to Isreal, the next minute is wants to give more support than bush.

Barack Obama and John McCain are complete liars and offer NO change whatsoever.

He spent 20 years listening to Reverend Wright. I doubt most people on this forum have been alive that long. Wright is his "spiritual adviser" and has shaped who Barack Obama is today. Just observe one of Obama's speeches; he emulates Wright's style and mannerisms.

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#147 muffincakes87
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I am amazed how people are under the assumption that only white people can be racist. Black people are actually more racist than whites. Many blacks hate white people and blame them for all of their problems. Its no wonder that every time you turn on the news you see that another black man has killed a white police officer or raped a white woman.jbz7890

:|

I can agree are such thing as a racist black person. You can be racist no matter what skin color you are. But my god. That was such a disgusting statement.

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#148 RiSkyBiZ-13
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[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"][QUOTE="-R3Vo"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="-R3Vo"]I wouldn't doubt that he's racist, but I don't care, if he ever actually showed it, he wouldn't be president for long.fat_rob

is a racist still bad if they never act on it?

If they never act on it I don't see a difference.

We're not talking about your average joe, this guy is going to run the country- about to be the most powerful man in the world. Hardly a spot for a closet racist.

Hmmm....

LMFAO, Bush doesn't care about black people... WOW! Those morons were warned and warned to evacuate the city, and wouldn't. They knew what was going to happen, and they just sat there. Then, instead of pulling together and surviving, they started murdering eachother, raping women, and burglarizing EVERYTHING!! That video fails.

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#149 jbz7890
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[QUOTE="jbz7890"]I am amazed how people are under the assumption that only white people can be racist. Black people are actually more racist than whites. Many blacks hate white people and blame them for all of their problems. Its no wonder that every time you turn on the news you see that another black man has killed a white police officer or raped a white woman.fat_rob
wow...just wow....

Just the other day, a black man killed a white police officer in Maryland. The man was later strangled in jail, and civil rights activists rushed to defend this murderer. They didn't care that he killed a police officer, they feel that he was the victim of "racism." Imagine that.

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#150 jbz7890
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[QUOTE="jbz7890"]I am amazed how people are under the assumption that only white people can be racist. Black people are actually more racist than whites. Many blacks hate white people and blame them for all of their problems. Its no wonder that every time you turn on the news you see that another black man has killed a white police officer or raped a white woman.muffincakes87

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I can agree are such thing as a racist black person. You can be racist no matter what skin color you are. But my god. That was such a disgusting statement.

Look I am not saying that all black men are murderers and rapist, but it is a fact that they commit high levels of crimes, especially targeted at whites.

And you think that is disgusting? Look at this video of a black man who is calling to "exterminate white people." The other black man on the show does NOT denounce what he says. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DVKfOQRCSc