[QUOTE="Etheral_Filcher"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="Etheral_Filcher"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="Etheral_Filcher"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="Etheral_Filcher"]If it was the 70's and a white was being racist, would that be justified too?
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In this day an age it's difficult to justify racism from either group, but back when open discrimination against blacks was still very prevalent, I'd say it's justifiable for a black kid to harbor suspicious or racist feeling against white people.That's where we differ. You condone racism, I do not.
That's a pretty big strawman saying that I condone racism. You think that every black person who lived during the civil rights era/post civil rights era should have harbored peachy, happy thoughts towards those who discriminated against them? I consider your standards to be highly unrealistic.You clearly condone racism, and me saying so is not a "big straw" based on what you said in your previous post. Let me jog your memory: "I'd say it's JUSTIFIABLE for a black kid to harbor suspicion or RACIST FEELINGINGS against white people."
I never said blacks during the 70's should be "peachy," but I did say they shouldn't be racist. Last time I checked not being racist =/= being unrealistically happy.
I'll restate that I don't condone, but rather understand the thought of racism for a child experiencing a great deal hosility for racial reasons. Saying I condone racism outright is twisting my argument. I don't know how you can honestly level a personal argument using childhood quotes from his books, and can't understand why he would have such feelings in the first place. You should really read some more literature on the civil rights era if you think that those quotes are grounds for condemnation.You can restate all you want. You cleary said racist feelings were justifiable, and I'm not twisting your argument. If you so vehemently oppose what you said, why don't you withdraw your previous comment to eliminate such a gross contradiction?
Where did I "level a personal argument" against Obama? Where did I say I couldn't emapthize with his feelings? Where did I say those qoutes were grounds for "condemnation"?
Alrightly. For the sake of semantics I repeal my previous shortened statement, and say that I don't condone, but rather understand why a black kid growing up in 70's would harbor racist feeling, and I don't hold it against them. That's basically the same thing I originally said. I don't condone racism, but I think its motivations in some situations shouldn't be necessarily condemned. It's not nearly as black and white as you wish to portray it. And if your original quotes had no specified purpose or condemnation (as in the implication that Obama is racist: the point of the thread) they had no point whatsoever. Congratulations.I don't hold their feelings against them either, and it is easy for me to empathize with black feelings and sentiments during the 70's, seeing as how my father and his side of the family were black and lived through the 70's.
The quotes I posted had multiple points. They let people see how Obama thought as a child, and they were intended to act as good bait. Mission accomplished.
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