OT's Official Election 2012 Thread- onwards to the future 2016

And you thought he was too optimistic!

princeofshapeir

I feel bad for Romney he looked really sad and it doesn't help how Diane Sawyer keeps saying how he's spent 7 years up to this moment and throwing it in his face.:cry:

TwistedShade

I don't feel bad for him at all. He was very slimy in this campaign.

Anyway, I'm glad that Obama won not only because I like the man and thought he deserved 4 more years, but because the Republicans bad behavior has come unrewarded.

I'll admit Romney handled that with class.

I feel bad for Romney he looked really sad and it doesn't help how Diane Sawyer keeps saying how he's spent 7 years up to this moment and throwing it in his face.:cry:

TwistedShade

Yeah, Ik even as someone who's never been a Romney supporter, you can't help but feel a little sorrow for the man.

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I feel bad for Romney he looked really sad and it doesn't help how Diane Sawyer keeps saying how he's spent 7 years up to this moment and throwing it in his face.:cry:

GreySeal9

I don't feel bad for him at all. He was very slimy in this campaign.

Anyway, I'm glad that Obama won not only because I like the man and thought he deserved 4 more years, but because the Republicans bad behavior has come unrewarded.

[QUOTE="TwistedShade"]

I feel bad for Romney he looked really sad and it doesn't help how Diane Sawyer keeps saying how he's spent 7 years up to this moment and throwing it in his face.:cry:

TacticalDesire

Yeah, Ik even as someone who's never been a Romney supporter, you can't help but feel a little sorrow for the man.

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[QUOTE="TwistedShade"]

I feel bad for Romney he looked really sad and it doesn't help how Diane Sawyer keeps saying how he's spent 7 years up to this moment and throwing it in his face.:cry:

princeofshapeir

Yeah, Ik even as someone who's never been a Romney supporter, you can't help but feel a little sorrow for the man.

And you thought he was too optimistic!

princeofshapeir

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[QUOTE="TwistedShade"]

I feel bad for Romney he looked really sad and it doesn't help how Diane Sawyer keeps saying how he's spent 7 years up to this moment and throwing it in his face.:cry:

princeofshapeir

Yeah, Ik even as someone who's never been a Romney supporter, you can't help but feel a little sorrow for the man.

Surprised Obama won after seeing all the hate he gets.SpinoRaptor24

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

Yeah, Ik even as someone who's never been a Romney supporter, you can't help but feel a little sorrow for the man.

Ring_of_fire

1. 2000 McCain should have won the nomination.

2. 2008 McCain was forced by the Republican party to choose a rightwing lunatic as his running mate.

3. 2008 McCain was forced to 180 all of his principles in an effort to appeal tot he base.

4. There was no chance of McCain winning 2008 at all simply because Dubya goofed hard and Obama was the sure favorite.

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] Personally, I felt more sorry for McCain in 2008. Romney was never a solid politician. McCain was. We saw in both 2008 and 2012 a Republican candidate transformed by radical elements of his party, forced to betray their principles, and for me seeing McCain do that was painful. princeofshapeir

1. 2000 McCain should have won the nomination.

2. 2008 McCain was forced by the Republican party to choose a rightwing lunatic as his running mate.

3. 2008 McCain was forced to 180 all of his principles in an effort to appeal tot he base.

4. There was no chance of McCain winning 2008 at all simply because Dubya goofed hard and Obama was the sure favorite.

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[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"] I would've felt more sorry for McCain of 2000, not 2008. I don't get why one should feel sorry for a political person if the person lost fairly.Ring_of_fire

1. 2000 McCain should have won the nomination.

2. 2008 McCain was forced by the Republican party to choose a rightwing lunatic as his running mate.

3. 2008 McCain was forced to 180 all of his principles in an effort to appeal tot he base.

4. There was no chance of McCain winning 2008 at all simply because Dubya goofed hard and Obama was the sure favorite.

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

1. 2000 McCain should have won the nomination.

2. 2008 McCain was forced by the Republican party to choose a rightwing lunatic as his running mate.

3. 2008 McCain was forced to 180 all of his principles in an effort to appeal tot he base.

4. There was no chance of McCain winning 2008 at all simply because Dubya goofed hard and Obama was the sure favorite.

princeofshapeir

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="TwistedShade"]

I feel bad for Romney he looked really sad and it doesn't help how Diane Sawyer keeps saying how he's spent 7 years up to this moment and throwing it in his face.:cry:

princeofshapeir

Yeah, Ik even as someone who's never been a Romney supporter, you can't help but feel a little sorrow for the man.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not wishing Romney had won the election, but it's years of his life that are essentially wasted.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

Yeah, Ik even as someone who's never been a Romney supporter, you can't help but feel a little sorrow for the man.

Ring_of_fire

Well, maybe it's because I'm a high school senior applying to some highly competitive universities, but I liken it to the admission process. Someone could get denied admission at a top tier institute, and have fantastic GPA, SAT, Extracurriculars, etc, and have dedicated the past 3-4 years of their life to trying to reach said university. They got denied completely fairly, and someone else got in, but that doesn't mean you don't feel bad for the denied person, especially when they've put in so much.

I'm glad Obama won, but I honestly feel kind of bad for Romney. You devote years and put in so much effort, just to lose. Must be tough to admit defeat to millions of people.

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And you thought he was too optimistic!

dreman999

That's not really true. He predicted a strong Obama win in Ohio, but it's currently less than 100,000. Other than Florida (which still hasn't been called for whatever reason), he and RealClearPolitics have the same map.

Which brings me to my question. Considering how close it is/was in Ohio, Virginia, and Florida, do you, OT, think Romney could have won those states if the the 47% thing never happened?

Oh what a great success :) Glad that Obama won. And this comes from germany :D

Voting yes to ban gay marriage in Minnesota is now winning. :(

c'mon don't...please....

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Voting yes to ban gay marriage in Minnesota is now winning. :(

c'mon don't...please....

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SaudiFury

So can we all agree that the current Republican party is just an absolutely poisonous climate to be in right now?

On one hand you need to appeal to the moderates in order to garner the support from outside the strictly Republican demographic, but on the other hand the party has just become so infested with crazies that you also have to appeal to these insane people who basically want a theocracy to get the support of YOUR OWN PARTY!

While I do feel Mitt was a bit slimy and would have certainly put the upper class first before the rest of the population, I do feel that prior to the election he had been alot more sane on stances than he was with this campaign. He DID do a major healthcare reform that was the BASIS for Obamacare and seemed ALOT more moderate in previous interviews.

IDK, I just feel like the Republican party at this point is hurting it's own candidates. There really needs to be some major change in the party...

Has anyone posted about Puerto Rico? I really do not think they should become a state. I'm sure if anything happens the bill will get held up in Congress.

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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

And you thought he was too optimistic!

homegirl2180

That's not really true. He predicted a strong Obama win in Ohio, but it's currently less than 100,000. Other than Florida (which still hasn't been called for whatever reason), he and RealClearPolitics have the same map.

Which brings me to my question. Considering how close it is/was in Ohio, Virginia, and Florida, do you, OT, think Romney could have won those states if the the 47% thing never happened?

Has anyone posted about Puerto Rico? I really do not think they should become a state. I'm sure if anything happens the bill will get held up in Congress.

limpbizkit818

Marijuanna legalization is losing in my state of Oregon... =(

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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

And you thought he was too optimistic!

homegirl2180

That's not really true. He predicted a strong Obama win in Ohio, but it's currently less than 100,000. Other than Florida (which still hasn't been called for whatever reason), he and RealClearPolitics have the same map.

Which brings me to my question. Considering how close it is/was in Ohio, Virginia, and Florida, do you, OT, think Romney could have won those states if the the 47% thing never happened?

He's not making a prediction it's odds.

He running computer simulations based on state polls and calculating the probability of a candidate winning. It has nothing to do with the margin of votes. If he runs 10,000 simulations and every single instance of Romney winning included the capture of Ohio, then it's safe to project that Romney cannot win without Ohio. The chances he's posting refer the amount time these scenarios happened in his simulations. i.e. 50% win in FL and not how many votes they'll receive.

Does this mean Jim will be running in 2016?Ring_of_fire

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Does this mean Jim will be running in 2016?dave123321

That's not really true. He predicted a strong Obama win in Ohio, but it's currently less than 100,000. Other than Florida (which still hasn't been called for whatever reason), he and RealClearPolitics have the same map.

Which brings me to my question. Considering how close it is/was in Ohio, Virginia, and Florida, do you, OT, think Romney could have won those states if the the 47% thing never happened?

homegirl2180

That's not really true either: Silver's model predicted ahigh probability of Obama winning Ohio, but that doesn't speak to the margin of victory. Silver's projected vote share for Ohio was 51.3% Obama to 47.7% Romney with a 2.7% margin of error, which is in line with the results.

Thankfully Republicans kept control of the House. Else we'd be subjected to even more bad policy.

75% of the vote is in on the ban gay marriage amendment in minnesota. the Vote No's have a very narrow win right now.

Has anyone posted about Puerto Rico? I really do not think they should become a state.

limpbizkit818

[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

Has anyone posted about Puerto Rico? I really do not think they should become a state. I'm sure if anything happens the bill will get held up in Congress.

soulless4now

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[QUOTE="dreman999"] He can see the future.

Blue-Sky

That's not really true. He predicted a strong Obama win in Ohio, but it's currently less than 100,000. Other than Florida (which still hasn't been called for whatever reason), he and RealClearPolitics have the same map.

Which brings me to my question. Considering how close it is/was in Ohio, Virginia, and Florida, do you, OT, think Romney could have won those states if the the 47% thing never happened?

He's not making a prediction it's odds.

He running computer simulations based on state polls and calculating the probability of a candidate winning. It has nothing to do with the margin of votes. If he runs 10,000 simulations and every single instance of Romney winning included the capture of Ohio, then it's safe to project that Romney cannot win without Ohio. The chances he's posting refer the amount time these scenarios happened in his simulations. i.e. 50% win in FL and not how many votes they'll receive.

Wow lots of good news so far. In my home state, they restricted the use of eminent domain, Colorodo and Washington legalized recretional marijuana, Washington legalized gay marriage, and Obama won (expected and I did vote for him instead of Romney or Gary Johnson).

So any bad news? :P

Wow lots of good news so far. In my home state, they restricted the use of eminent domain, Colorodo and Washington legalized recretional marijuana, Washington legalized gay marriage, and Obama won (expected and I did vote for him instead of Romney or Gary Johnson).

So any bad news? :P

leviathan91