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#1401 cslayer211
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[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]

Seriously guys,

Nevada's senate majority leader is a black man.

the first openly gay senator.

women now make 22% of the Senate (the highest ever).

LGBT's are looking to win on ALL the amendments in their favor

more blue counties even in states where Romeny won big.

solid wins in Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, and demographic changes in Arizona (the southwest is changing guys).

Republicans manage to look past the fact that they pushed a Mormon nominee (from a religious faction often despised)

A black man got re-elected to Presidency by good margins.

it's the demographics that are changing. more i look at the results, i seriously seriously think the Republicans are gonna need to rethink their strategies.

TheWalkingGhost
Those demographic changes are not necessarily a good thing. It seems like a sound immigration policy will never happen because Hispanics will oppose anything that limits them coming here. Legal or Not. Also kiss English goodbye, which is a terrible thing for the millions and millions of Americans who don't speak Spanish.

He's right. I was really surprised when Obama won Virginia, and when Romney didn't take Florida early, it was clearly over for him from the start. He failed on minority groups and women. The Republicans don't realize how much of a changing country we have. Old people who believe in traditional values are becoming less and less whilst the next generation is taking over with new ideals. If Republicans don't change their strategy they will never be able to win another presidential election. They might have a chance in 2016 if they change their position on social issues, probably with Chris Christie who clearly scored some major points on the hurricane Sandy crisis (assuming he doesn't die before then.)
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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"] What a well thought out and logical response. :roll: Why point out where and why I was wrong when you can roll your eyes? Really is end all be all. theone86

The thought put into response need only to match that put into the original post. A:roll: is more than sufficient to respond to what you posted.

Thanks for the cop-out. Don't make a comment you refuse to defend.

Don't make idiotic comments if you don't want to be treated like an idiot.

You're an idiot, plain and simple, now either defend your stance against my comment or shut the hell up. Right now all your doing is acting like a child. Anyway, if it was so idiotic it shouldn't be hard to disprove, now should it? And if you can't disprove a so called "idiotic" statement, what does that say about you? Forget it, continue to roll your eyes as that is all your brain can seem to muster.
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#1403 theone86
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[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]

The thought put into response need only to match that put into the original post. A:roll: is more than sufficient to respond to what you posted.

TheWalkingGhost

Thanks for the cop-out. Don't make a comment you refuse to defend.

Don't make idiotic comments if you don't want to be treated like an idiot.

You're an idiot, plain and simple, now either defend your stance against my comment or shut the hell up. Right now all your doing is acting like a child. Anyway, if it was so idiotic it shouldn't be hard to disprove, now should it? And if you can't disprove a so called "idiotic" statement, what does that say about you? Forget it, continue to roll your eyes as that is all your brain can seem to muster.

You said that because hispanic demographics are increasing in voting importance the country is screwed because they're automatically going to vote to let more hispanics in through any means necessary and will result in the destruction of the English language in America. That's not only one of the most idiotic statements I have ever heard, it's also patently racist. Stormfront's thataways, you fvcking moron.

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#1404 TheWalkingGhost
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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="SaudiFury"]

Seriously guys,

Nevada's senate majority leader is a black man.

the first openly gay senator.

women now make 22% of the Senate (the highest ever).

LGBT's are looking to win on ALL the amendments in their favor

more blue counties even in states where Romeny won big.

solid wins in Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, and demographic changes in Arizona (the southwest is changing guys).

Republicans manage to look past the fact that they pushed a Mormon nominee (from a religious faction often despised)

A black man got re-elected to Presidency by good margins.

it's the demographics that are changing. more i look at the results, i seriously seriously think the Republicans are gonna need to rethink their strategies.

cslayer211
Those demographic changes are not necessarily a good thing. It seems like a sound immigration policy will never happen because Hispanics will oppose anything that limits them coming here. Legal or Not. Also kiss English goodbye, which is a terrible thing for the millions and millions of Americans who don't speak Spanish.

He's right. I was really surprised when Obama won Virginia, and when Romney didn't take Florida early, it was clearly over for him from the start. He failed on minority groups and women. The Republicans don't realize how much of a changing country we have. Old people who believe in traditional values are becoming less and less whilst the next generation is taking over with new ideals. If Republicans don't change their strategy they will never be able to win another presidential election. They might have a chance in 2016 if they change their position on social issues, probably with Chris Christie who clearly scored some major points on the hurricane Sandy crisis (assuming he doesn't die before then.)

I never said he was wrong, just that depending on how you look at it the changes may not be a good thing. Policy wise, not racial wise. You really think Hispanics see immigration the same way the majority of Republican supporters do? Surely not.
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#1405 TheWalkingGhost
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LOl, KK, do the bet. Devimightcry, go fvck yourself, no one will miss you, hokie, you too. l4dak47
I'll miss hokie. For the same reasons you won't.
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"]LOl, KK, do the bet. Devimightcry, go fvck yourself, no one will miss you, hokie, you too. TheWalkingGhost
I'll miss hokie. For the same reasons you won't.

His stupidity and constant bs?
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#1407 LJS9502_basic
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Man OT is one mean spirited site. I guess some people need laid. Anyway...four more years of suckage....not that the option was any better. American loses when they elect politicians. Someday maybe the people will ask for more.:(
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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="l4dak47"]LOl, KK, do the bet. Devimightcry, go fvck yourself, no one will miss you, hokie, you too. l4dak47
I'll miss hokie. For the same reasons you won't.

His stupidity and constant bs?

Pretty much.
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#1409 TheWalkingGhost
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Man OT is one mean spirited site. I guess some people need laid. Anyway...four more years of suckage....not that the option was any better. American loses when they elect politicians. Someday maybe the people will ask for more.:(LJS9502_basic
You get used to it. Was there a difference between Obama and Romney with immigration? If the answer is no, then some people may be less annoyed.
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#1410 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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So Obama won? That was expected.

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#1411 Justforvisit
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Man OT is one mean spirited site. I guess some people need laid. Anyway...four more years of suckage....not that the option was any better. American loses when they elect politicians. Someday maybe the people will ask for more.:(LJS9502_basic


You've never been to System Wars so far, huh? :P

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#1412 rilpas
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so could anyone sum up everything for me? I know Obama won, but by how much? What is the current state? :P
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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="l4dak47"]LOl, KK, do the bet. Devimightcry, go fvck yourself, no one will miss you, hokie, you too. l4dak47
I'll miss hokie. For the same reasons you won't.

His stupidity and constant bs?

This, nothing of value has been lost.

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so could anyone sum up everything for me? I know Obama won, but by how much? What is the current state? :Prilpas

I think Obama won by 2% in the popular vote, but there's still votes to be counted, so that might go up to 3%. He's probably going to win Florida, which would put him at 332. Furthermore, if he wins Florida, he'll have won every swing state with the exception of North Carolina, which was alot closer than people thought it would be.

So, in a nutshell, popular vote was close, electoral vote was not.

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#1415 rilpas
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]so could anyone sum up everything for me? I know Obama won, but by how much? What is the current state? :PGreySeal9

I think Obama won by 2% in the popular vote, but there's still votes to be counted, so that might go up to 3%. He's probably going to win Florida, which would put him at 332. Furthermore, if he wins Florida, he'll have won every swing state with the exception of North Carolina, which was alot closer than people thought it would be.

So, in a nutshell, popular vote was close, electoral vote was not.

sounds like an all around win then

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#1416 SaltyMeatballs
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Obama FTW
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#1417 SteverXIII
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Weed was legalized in some states too Never thought I'd see it happen.
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#1418 Serraph105
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and everything stayed the same.

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#1419 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="SteverXIII"]Weed was legalized in some states too Never thought I'd see it happen.

except this
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Weed was legalized in some states too Never thought I'd see it happen.SteverXIII

IDK, I feel we as a country have been on the track to weed legalization for some time now.

Honestly, I see weed becoming completely legal throughout the country in my lifetime. Might not even take more than a couple more elections honestly.

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#1421 HoolaHoopMan
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Both the Voter ID Law and Marriage Amendment were shot down, Ellison was elected klobuchar was elected, and Obama wins. 5 for 5 tonight boys! Oh and KC should be gone for good. Shlt maybe I should take off work.
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[QUOTE="SteverXIII"]Weed was legalized in some states too Never thought I'd see it happen.LostProphetFLCL

IDK, I feel we as a country have been on the track to weed legalization for some time now.

Honestly, I see weed becoming completely legal throughout the country in my lifetime. Might not even take more than a couple more elections honestly.

Well, as all the older generation dies off, so does their ultra-conservative ideals.
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#1423 kuraimen
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Seriously guys,

Nevada's senate majority leader is a black man.

the first openly gay senator.

women now make 22% of the Senate (the highest ever).

LGBT's are looking to win on ALL the amendments in their favor

more blue counties even in states where Romeny won big.

solid wins in Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, and demographic changes in Arizona (the southwest is changing guys).

Republicans manage to look past the fact that they pushed a Mormon nominee (from a religious faction often despised)

A black man got re-elected to Presidency by good margins.

it's the demographics that are changing. more i look at the results, i seriously seriously think the Republicans are gonna need to rethink their strategies.

SaudiFury

In other words the reign of Satan on Earth has begun and everyone is invited to the party!

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#1424 LostProphetFLCL
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[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

[QUOTE="SteverXIII"]Weed was legalized in some states too Never thought I'd see it happen.chrisrooR

IDK, I feel we as a country have been on the track to weed legalization for some time now.

Honestly, I see weed becoming completely legal throughout the country in my lifetime. Might not even take more than a couple more elections honestly.

Well, as all the older generation dies off, so does their ultra-conservative ideals.

Yup, and then the generation that will be that old population will be supportive of weed legalization.

I don't know if people honestly think that all the pot smoking that was being done in the 60's and 70's just disappeared because it didn't. Plenty of middle age people still smoke or are at least still for legalizing weed.

On top of that younger generations seem to really support it as well and thanks to the internet people have been coming to learn of how much BS has been spread around by anti-marijuana campaigns.

With the tobacco industry not being the uber-powerhouse it used to be, that is also one less thing standing in the way of weed legalization.

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#1425 LostProphetFLCL
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[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]

Seriously guys,

Nevada's senate majority leader is a black man.

the first openly gay senator.

women now make 22% of the Senate (the highest ever).

LGBT's are looking to win on ALL the amendments in their favor

more blue counties even in states where Romeny won big.

solid wins in Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, and demographic changes in Arizona (the southwest is changing guys).

Republicans manage to look past the fact that they pushed a Mormon nominee (from a religious faction often despised)

A black man got re-elected to Presidency by good margins.

it's the demographics that are changing. more i look at the results, i seriously seriously think the Republicans are gonna need to rethink their strategies.

kuraimen

In other words the reign of Satan on Earth has begun and everyone is invited to the party!

Did somebody say, party?

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#1426 Mercenary848
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4 more years of meh, but then again that happens after every election.

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#1427 rilpas
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I still say we should have this guy as the president

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[QUOTE="rilpas"]so could anyone sum up everything for me? I know Obama won, but by how much? What is the current state? :PGreySeal9

I think Obama won by 2% in the popular vote, but there's still votes to be counted, so that might go up to 3%. He's probably going to win Florida, which would put him at 332. Furthermore, if he wins Florida, he'll have won every swing state with the exception of North Carolina, which was alot closer than people thought it would be.

So, in a nutshell, popular vote was close, electoral vote was not.

Yeah, but Grey, you're forgetting that swing votes always break for the challenger and that Democrats were getting oversampled :P.

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#1429 CycleOfViolence
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Probably too early to bring up but any expected cabinet changes in the Obama administration? I recall the idea of Clinton stepping down (presumably to take time off and build towards 2016) and Kerry taking over at state was floated earlier this year but that likely was just hearsay.

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#1430 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="rilpas"]so could anyone sum up everything for me? I know Obama won, but by how much? What is the current state? :PTacticalDesire

I think Obama won by 2% in the popular vote, but there's still votes to be counted, so that might go up to 3%. He's probably going to win Florida, which would put him at 332. Furthermore, if he wins Florida, he'll have won every swing state with the exception of North Carolina, which was alot closer than people thought it would be.

So, in a nutshell, popular vote was close, electoral vote was not.

Yeah, but Grey, you're forgetting that swing votes always break for the challenger and that Democrats were getting oversampled :P.

yeah, the polls lie. Also so does the electoral college, Romney won.
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#1431 Master_Live
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Come on, am I the only one enjoy Glenn Beck in all his exaggerated pretentious glory right now?
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Come on, am I the only one enjoy Glenn Beck in all his exaggerated pretentious glory right now? Master_Live
The entirety of Fox News is comedic gold.
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#1433 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]

Seriously guys,

Nevada's senate majority leader is a black man.

the first openly gay senator.

women now make 22% of the Senate (the highest ever).

LGBT's are looking to win on ALL the amendments in their favor

more blue counties even in states where Romeny won big.

solid wins in Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, and demographic changes in Arizona (the southwest is changing guys).

Republicans manage to look past the fact that they pushed a Mormon nominee (from a religious faction often despised)

A black man got re-elected to Presidency by good margins.

it's the demographics that are changing. more i look at the results, i seriously seriously think the Republicans are gonna need to rethink their strategies.

LostProphetFLCL

In other words the reign of Satan on Earth has begun and everyone is invited to the party!

Did somebody say, party?

lol @ the store clerk. He was loving it.
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#1434 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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I just watched Karl Rove's meltdown on Fox last night. Great stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eQLV7nqD3CA

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[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

In other words the reign of Satan on Earth has begun and everyone is invited to the party!

kuraimen

Did somebody say, party?

lol @ the store clerk. He was loving it.

Any sane man or woman would love that! :P

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#1436 lordreaven
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Thankfully Republicans kept control of the House. Else we'd be subjected to even more bad policy.

airshocker
Don't you mean you're now subject to a gridlock since they GOP will just do what they did for the lats four years and just Filibuster every little thing.
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#1437 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Four more years of fail. :[
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]so could anyone sum up everything for me? I know Obama won, but by how much? What is the current state? :PGreySeal9

I think Obama won by 2% in the popular vote, but there's still votes to be counted, so that might go up to 3%. He's probably going to win Florida, which would put him at 332. Furthermore, if he wins Florida, he'll have won every swing state with the exception of North Carolina, which was alot closer than people thought it would be.

So, in a nutshell, popular vote was close, electoral vote was not.

It won't even matter if there's more votes to be counted. Obama has already reached the 270 target first.

Link.

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#1439 comp_atkins
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Man OT is one mean spirited site. I guess some people need laid. Anyway...four more years of suckage....not that the option was any better. American loses when they elect politicians. Someday maybe the people will ask for more.:(LJS9502_basic
but teh american expectationalism..

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#1440 sammyjenkis898
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lol Fox News :]

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#1441 THE_DRUGGIE
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Oh hey guys I was busy doing stuff.

Did I get elected?

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#1442 cslayer211
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Oh hey guys I was busy doing stuff.

Did I get elected?

THE_DRUGGIE

In Colorado, yes.

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#1443 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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lol Fox News :]

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That article is aimed at Karl Rove, why throw the entire Fox News network under the umbrella?
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#1444 The-Apostle
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I'm refusing to vote in the current poll.
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#1445 nocoolnamejim
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[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]My final prediction: Obama: 303 Electoral Votes Romney: 235 Obama carries the following swing states: New Mexico Wisconsin Pennsylvania Michigan Nevada Colorado New Hampshire Iowa Ohio Virginia Romney carries these swing states: North Carolina Florida Additionally, the Democrats will hold the Senate. Democrats will win the following close races in the senate: Elizabeth Warren defeats Scott Brown in Massachusetts
Tim Kaine defeats George Allen in Virginia Joe Donnelly defeats Richard Mourdock in Indiana Independent Angus King wins Maine race over both the Democrat and Republican in the race to replace Olympia Snowe and caucuses with the Democrats Claire McCaskill defeats Todd Akin in Missouri Tammy Baldwin defeats Tommy Thompson in Wisconsin Chris Murphy defeats Linda McMahan in Connecticut Martin Heinrich defeats Heather Wilson in New Mexico Republicans will win the following close Senate races: Denny Rehberg defeats Jon Tester in Montana Dean Heller defeats Shelley Berkeley in Nevada Rick Berg defeats Heidi Keitkamp in North Dakota Jeff Flake defeats Richard Carmona in Arizona

My predictions hear are looking to be pretty much money. Only miss on the national election states looks to be Florida and I've correctly called every Senate race that has been decided so far. There are a couple of close Senate races where final results aren't in yet, but they are the ones that I predicted Republicans squeaking out a win in. (Montana and North Dakota)
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#1446 comp_atkins
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I just watched Karl Rove's meltdown on Fox last night. Great stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eQLV7nqD3CA

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i loved it when they actually sent megan kelly into the back room on camera to interrogate the fox folks who made the call that ohio was going for obama...
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#1447 The-Apostle
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/11/07/five-ways-mainstream-media-tipped-scales-in-favor-obama/

Like I said, I blame the liberal media for this travesty of an election. That and I think maybe the Democrats stuffed the ballot box. After all, voter ID laws are supposedly "unconstitutional".

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#1448 nocoolnamejim
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/11/07/five-ways-mainstream-media-tipped-scales-in-favor-obama/

Like I said, I blame the liberal media for this travesty of an election. That and I think maybe the Democrats stuffed the ballot box. After all, voter ID laws are supposedly "unconstitutional".

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You should read something other than Fox News once in a while for your source of information. If last night's election proved anything, it's that your favorite network exists in a completely alternate reality from the one the rest of us live in.
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#1449 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/11/07/five-ways-mainstream-media-tipped-scales-in-favor-obama/

Like I said, I blame the liberal media for this travesty of an election. That and I think maybe the Democrats stuffed the ballot box. After all, voter ID laws are supposedly "unconstitutional".

The-Apostle

We can't really blame the liberal media every time a Republican loses. Last presidential election it was obvious, but this year? Come on.

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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/11/07/five-ways-mainstream-media-tipped-scales-in-favor-obama/

Like I said, I blame the liberal media for this travesty of an election. That and I think maybe the Democrats stuffed the ballot box. After all, voter ID laws are supposedly "unconstitutional".

The-Apostle

It's only a travesty because the party you support lost. Get over it.