People of OT turn your TV sets to CNN (Palin speaks in less than 10 minutes)

[QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="hokies1313"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"][QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"]

"Then there are those like John McCain who use their careers to promote change."

Nice.

hokies1313

Elect change. Elect the republican who voted with bush 90% time!

Gee, the Congress with the lowest approval rating ever is...what's that? Controlled by the Democrats you say? Huh....We should definitely punish the Republicans then.

/Sarcasm

The congress cant do anything because Bush vetos everything

Besides override the Veto.

they don't have enough seats

[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"][QUOTE="hokies1313"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"][QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"]

"Then there are those like John McCain who use their careers to promote change."

Nice.

hokies1313

Elect change. Elect the republican who voted with bush 90% time!

Gee, the Congress with the lowest approval rating ever is...what's that? Controlled by the Democrats you say? Huh....We should definitely punish the Republicans then.

/Sarcasm

Congress cant get any thing done because of bush in office, and the dems cant override because they dont have 3/4th majority.

Last I checked, Bush hasn't vetoed EVERYTHING that has come out of Congress.

Stop the excuses.

yea he doesn't veto republican bills

[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"][QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"]

"Then there are those like John McCain who use their careers to promote change."

Nice.

AgileNate

Elect change. Elect the republican who voted with bush 90% time!

Bush just didnt do a good job on what he wanted to do. I believe McCain can

How?

I wanna watch this just to see what she has to say. Hopefully she doesn't choke on stage:lol:Raged_Soulja

Anyway, I don't really care for either candidate this election so I'm skipping voting. McCain picking her was a terrible choice in my opinion and made me not vote for him. Nor will I vote for the liberal Obama.

Anyway, I'll read some basic outline excepts on her speech and the aftermath overall impression [of both sides including Independent] what they think about her. I will not waste my time oogling eye her on TV [aka glued to the TV just to see her speech].

[QUOTE="hokies1313"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="hokies1313"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"][QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"]

"Then there are those like John McCain who use their careers to promote change."

Nice.

alexmurray

Elect change. Elect the republican who voted with bush 90% time!

Gee, the Congress with the lowest approval rating ever is...what's that? Controlled by the Democrats you say? Huh....We should definitely punish the Republicans then.

/Sarcasm

The congress cant do anything because Bush vetos everything

Besides override the Veto.

they don't have enough seats

Refer to my post above.

[QUOTE="p2rus"]

[QUOTE="mastershake575"]So lets tax the higher class thats paying 80% of the taxes just so the lower class can live off the government even more ?hokies1313

i would get upset at that,and post a really detailed response, but i have to go pick up my welface check then go use it to buy a 42 inch plasma, some surround sound, and hire a dj to change cd's for me.

Unfortunately, some people do abuse welfare like that.

[QUOTE="Raged_Soulja"]

[QUOTE="AMitch24"]I'll give you a good reason why I don't like her...When McCain dies halfway through his term in office(which he prolly will of heart failure or cancer or something), not saying I don't appreciate the man for what he has done...she will take over with barely any experience as a governor, and you want her to be running our country? I mean you would first have to want McCain to run our country, which idk why you would....McCain's main argument about Obama was inexperience...then he contradicts himself with his VP pick. Obama has had enough time in the senate to prepare for the presidency and he will win and he will do a great job!!!mastershake575

I loled

your point? This whole experience crap is crap. Same thing was said when Bill Clinton was running regardless of his record.

So lets tax the higher class thats paying 80% of the taxes just so the lower class can live off the government even more ?mastershake575

Well the thing is, Obama say he will lower taxes for the lower clas but that is true in a sense he will pass something that will lower taxes for the middle-lower clases, then he will start his Health Care, Improving other gov't projects.. Which will cost money, so he may have lowered taxes but these projects will force taxes up more than how much he lowered them.. So in the end everyone has higher taxes..

[QUOTE="hokies1313"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"][QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"]

"Then there are those like John McCain who use their careers to promote change."

Nice.

Katafran

Elect change. Elect the republican who voted with bush 90% time!

Gee, the Congress with the lowest approval rating ever is...what's that? Controlled by the Democrats you say? Huh....We should definitely punish the Republicans then.

/Sarcasm

Don't forget that both the presidential and vice presidential candidates are out of that congress.

dont forget that McCain if elected supports 90% of the Us's worst presidents decisions

[QUOTE="hokies1313"][QUOTE="p2rus"]

[QUOTE="mastershake575"]So lets tax the higher class thats paying 80% of the taxes just so the lower class can live off the government even more ?p2rus

i would get upset at that,and post a really detailed response, but i have to go pick up my welface check then go use it to buy a 42 inch plasma, some surround sound, and hire a dj to change cd's for me.

Unfortunately, some people do abuse welfare like that.

Yeah, too bad I know the person stories of people who DO abuse welfare.

And yeah, I've never had to get welfare, for which I'm damn proud, because my family work its ass off to be as well off as we are today.

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="Raged_Soulja"]

[QUOTE="AMitch24"]I'll give you a good reason why I don't like her...When McCain dies halfway through his term in office(which he prolly will of heart failure or cancer or something), not saying I don't appreciate the man for what he has done...she will take over with barely any experience as a governor, and you want her to be running our country? I mean you would first have to want McCain to run our country, which idk why you would....McCain's main argument about Obama was inexperience...then he contradicts himself with his VP pick. Obama has had enough time in the senate to prepare for the presidency and he will win and he will do a great job!!!Tjeremiah1988

I loled

This whole experience crap is crap.

[QUOTE="Katafran"][QUOTE="hokies1313"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"][QUOTE="Sexy_Pirate"]

"Then there are those like John McCain who use their careers to promote change."

Nice.

alexmurray

Elect change. Elect the republican who voted with bush 90% time!

Gee, the Congress with the lowest approval rating ever is...what's that? Controlled by the Democrats you say? Huh....We should definitely punish the Republicans then.

/Sarcasm

Don't forget that both the presidential and vice presidential candidates are out of that congress.

dont forget that McCain if elected supports 90% of the Us's worst presidents decisions

Dude stop using that crappy argument.. If that's seriously all you can throw out here then Obama's in trouble. How bout you check what these bills were, and how many other people voted with Bush 90% of the time. I believe there were quite a few senators because the fact that all the bills are 1 sided, and no one is willing to compromise and they are all on the exact same thing. Wow I love the nations worst congress.

[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="hokies1313"]

Not a big fan myself, unfortunately this IS a post 9/11 Republican convention, it has to be said.

hokies1313

It will ALWAYS be a post 9/11 convention and we already had one.

Well hopefully one day, we can hold a convention without an on going War on Terrorism.

I'm failing to understand why anyone with a sense of what's happening to this country would vote for McCain. Do you people even live in the same country I do? Have this many people been brainwashed into thinking ANYTHING in this country is going to change if McCain gets elected? Mr.McCain (The "maverick") has voted with President Bush 100% of the time this year.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/27/mccain-voted-with-bush-10_n_103718.html

Some other fun facts about John...

"The Children's Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. He voted against the children's health care bill last year, then defended Bush's veto of the bill"

"He's one of the richest people in a Senate filled with millionaires. The Associated Press reports he and his wife own at least eight homes! Yet McCain says the solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a "second job" and skip their vacations."

"McCain has sought closer ties to the extreme religious right in recent years. The pastor McCain calls his "spiritual guide," Rod Parsley, believes America's founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a "false religion." McCain sought the political support of right-wing preacher John Hagee, who believes Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment for gay rights and called the Catholic Church "the Antichrist" and a "false cult."

"He positions himself as pro-environment, but he scored a 0—yes, zero—from the League of Conservation Voters last year."

Plus, you can browse dozens of more fun facts like those above at this site: http://www.mccainfact.com/

Read through all that, and if you still support him after reading through it, well, I don't know what to tell you, other than you're so ignorant it makes my head asplode.

Cpt_Meh

First off, your sources are horribly biased. 3nd McCain is the furthest thing from a religous nut.

And if you bring up religion, could you also mention the racist rantings of Rev. Wright?

Those facts are from sources like ABC, MSNBC, Bloomberg, Reuters, etc. I apologize for not providing alternate links to Fox news, so you don't have to face the truth. And Obama has distanced himself from Wright, and condoned him. I suppose he's supposed to go back in time and never attend that church?

I'm going to be a pow so I have enough experience to run for president!Johnny-Quest

Wow, I doubt you could last through 1/100th of what John McCain went through.

[QUOTE="hokies1313"][QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="hokies1313"]

Not a big fan myself, unfortunately this IS a post 9/11 Republican convention, it has to be said.

Cpt_Meh

It will ALWAYS be a post 9/11 convention and we already had one.

Well hopefully one day, we can hold a convention without an on going War on Terrorism.

I'm failing to understand why anyone with a sense of what's happening to this country would vote for McCain. Do you people even live in the same country I do? Have this many people been brainwashed into thinking ANYTHING in this country is going to change if McCain gets elected? Mr.McCain (The "maverick") has voted with President Bush 100% of the time this year.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/27/mccain-voted-with-bush-10_n_103718.html

Some other fun facts about John...

"The Children's Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. He voted against the children's health care bill last year, then defended Bush's veto of the bill"

"He's one of the richest people in a Senate filled with millionaires. The Associated Press reports he and his wife own at least eight homes! Yet McCain says the solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a "second job" and skip their vacations."

"McCain has sought closer ties to the extreme religious right in recent years. The pastor McCain calls his "spiritual guide," Rod Parsley, believes America's founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a "false religion." McCain sought the political support of right-wing preacher John Hagee, who believes Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment for gay rights and called the Catholic Church "the Antichrist" and a "false cult."

"He positions himself as pro-environment, but he scored a 0—yes, zero—from the League of Conservation Voters last year."

Plus, you can browse dozens of more fun facts like those above at this site: http://www.mccainfact.com/

Read through all that, and if you still support him after reading through it, well, I don't know what to tell you, other than you're so ignorant it makes my head asplode.

Cpt_Meh

First off, your sources are horribly biased. 3nd McCain is the furthest thing from a religous nut.

And if you bring up religion, could you also mention the racist rantings of Rev. Wright?

Those facts are from sources like ABC, MSNBC, Bloomberg, Reuters, etc. I apologize for not providing alternate links to Fox news, so you don't have to face the truth. And Obama has distanced himself from Wright, and condoned him. I suppose he's supposed to go back in time and never attend that church?

All I see is a link to huffingtonpost.com.

I'm going to be a pow so I have enough experience to run for president!Johnny-Quest

Yea and I will be a mayor of a Small city and a governor for 2 years of a state with a smaller population of Austin Texas

[QUOTE="Raged_Soulja"]

[QUOTE="AMitch24"]I'll give you a good reason why I don't like her...When McCain dies halfway through his term in office(which he prolly will of heart failure or cancer or something), not saying I don't appreciate the man for what he has done...she will take over with barely any experience as a governor, and you want her to be running our country? I mean you would first have to want McCain to run our country, which idk why you would....McCain's main argument about Obama was inexperience...then he contradicts himself with his VP pick. Obama has had enough time in the senate to prepare for the presidency and he will win and he will do a great job!!!mastershake575

I loled

8

I dont know how any one could want a republican in office. We have lost more personal freedoms during the bush term and electing a Republican president is not going to help.Johnny-Quest

A guy who has to have tremendous amount of pressure on him to disacociate with ppl.... once the truth becomes known he really decides to still test the waters and deny it.... until the pressure gets on him and he goes with popular vote [but still in a liberal way]

[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]I'm going to be a pow so I have enough experience to run for president!alexmurray

Yea and I will be a mayor of a Small city and a governor for 2 years of a state with a smaller population of Austin Texas

Wow, both of you need to grow up. The most immature posts I've seen on GS yet.

I'm going to be a pow so I have enough experience to run for president!Johnny-Quest

No, his experience as a public servant is what makes him qualified to be president as well as his military training.

And being a veteran is definately something to be proud of, and it was a HUGE deal at the time. He came from a very well known family. That is why it is still talked about today.

[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]I'm going to be a pow so I have enough experience to run for president!hokies1313

Wow, I doubt you could last through 1/100th of what John McCain went through.

yea, and not to mention John McCain has also been a senator for God knows how long, and how long has obama, oh that's right for like 2 years.. oh and wait what did rudey say, when he was in the state senate he voted "present" over 100 times.. Yea Go Obama!

[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]I'm going to be a pow so I have enough experience to run for president!alexmurray

Yea and I will be a mayor of a Small city and a governor for 2 years of a state with a smaller population of Austin Texas

And I'm going to write 2 memoirs and press the "present" button so I can run for president too!

That was a terrific speech, I like this lady. I liked Giuliani's speech too. There were some good disses tonight. "I guess being a mayor is kind of like being a community organizer, except when you're a mayor you have actual responsibilities." :lol:fidosim

it was far from terrific.

[QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]I'm going to be a pow so I have enough experience to run for president!hokies1313

Yea and I will be a mayor of a Small city and a governor for 2 years of a state with a smaller population of Austin Texas

Wow, both of you need to grow up. The most immature posts I've seen on GS yet.

well my statement is true, it seems like that all you have to do to be VP

[QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]I'm going to be a pow so I have enough experience to run for president!cametall

Yea and I will be a mayor of a Small city and a governor for 2 years of a state with a smaller population of Austin Texas

And I'm going to write 2 memoirs and press the "present" button so I can run for president too!

Exactly. That was a terrific point. There is no "present" option for the Presidency.

[QUOTE="p2rus"][QUOTE="hokies1313"][QUOTE="p2rus"]

[QUOTE="mastershake575"]So lets tax the higher class thats paying 80% of the taxes just so the lower class can live off the government even more ?hokies1313

i would get upset at that,and post a really detailed response, but i have to go pick up my welface check then go use it to buy a 42 inch plasma, some surround sound, and hire a dj to change cd's for me.

Unfortunately, some people do abuse welfare like that.

Yeah, too bad I know the person stories of people who DO abuse welfare.

And yeah, I've never had to get welfare, for which I'm damn proud, because my family work its ass off to be as well off as we are today.

Yeah what about the people that cannot get jobs? Watch some of bill moyers speechs. He followed a lady who could not get a job because when she was young she lost all of her teeth and now she can't afford dentures that fit her so she looks deformed and no one will hire her. There are some people who cannot work because minimum wage isn't high enough to support their children so they have no choice to stay on welfare. Its alright though because they have bootstraps that they can pull them selfs up with :roll:

Everyone who doesnt like her and complains about her needs to just keep it to themselves. If you dont like it, get into politics and run for VP yourself, otherwise just leave it alone.Montaya

if you dont like to hear other people opinions, hit the signoff button.

Yeah, too bad I know the person stories of people who DO abuse welfare.

And yeah, I've never had to get welfare, for which I'm damn proud, because my family work its ass off to be as well off as we are today.

hokies1313

[QUOTE="fidosim"]That was a terrific speech, I like this lady. I liked Giuliani's speech too. There were some good disses tonight. "I guess being a mayor is kind of like being a community organizer, except when you're a mayor you have actual responsibilities." :lol:Tjeremiah1988

it was far from terrific.

Whatever, that was probably one of the funniest things I've ever heard.. and is so Freking true.. I'm starting to like Palin more and more!

[QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]I'm going to be a pow so I have enough experience to run for president!hokies1313

Yea and I will be a mayor of a Small city and a governor for 2 years of a state with a smaller population of Austin Texas

Wow, both of you need to grow up. The most immature posts I've seen on GS yet.

Both post are very ignorant. They obviously just want to attack the party in anyway possible.

[QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]I'm going to be a pow so I have enough experience to run for president!cametall

Yea and I will be a mayor of a Small city and a governor for 2 years of a state with a smaller population of Austin Texas

And I'm going to write 2 memoirs and press the "present" button so I can run for president too!

cough lincon cough

[QUOTE="hokies1313"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]I'm going to be a pow so I have enough experience to run for president!alexmurray

Yea and I will be a mayor of a Small city and a governor for 2 years of a state with a smaller population of Austin Texas

Wow, both of you need to grow up. The most immature posts I've seen on GS yet.

well my statement is true, it seems like that all you have to do to be VP

She has governoring experience. Unlike your candidate.

[QUOTE="cametall"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]I'm going to be a pow so I have enough experience to run for president!alexmurray

Yea and I will be a mayor of a Small city and a governor for 2 years of a state with a smaller population of Austin Texas

And I'm going to write 2 memoirs and press the "present" button so I can run for president too!

cough lincon cough

First off, Lincoln, and I don't think he ever wrote memiors. And he actually voted on laws, instead of "present."

[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]I'm going to be a pow so I have enough experience to run for president!alexmurray

Yea and I will be a mayor of a Small city and a governor for 2 years of a state with a smaller population of Austin Texas

She's done more in her offices than Obama has EVER done. Her and McCain actually care about the country as opposed to Obama/ Biden who care more about empowering their party. Everything she said is true. There are NO good reasons to vote for Obama. Those only reasons people can give are "hope and change" and "more of the same". It's silly rhetoric. Well McCain has stood up to the republican party before because of his personal convictions and Palin has stood up to established power. All Obama has are empty words. Palin and McCain have shown who they are. It would be foolish for anyone to vote against them. It's blunt, but true. Now it's bed time.

[QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="hokies1313"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]I'm going to be a pow so I have enough experience to run for president!hokies1313

Yea and I will be a mayor of a Small city and a governor for 2 years of a state with a smaller population of Austin Texas

Wow, both of you need to grow up. The most immature posts I've seen on GS yet.

well my statement is true, it seems like that all you have to do to be VP

She has governoring experience. Unlike your candidate.

Does Palin know what a VP does yet?

:roll:

nalhutta94

no thats discussed with McCain on their 3rd meeting...lol

[QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="hokies1313"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]I'm going to be a pow so I have enough experience to run for president!hokies1313

Yea and I will be a mayor of a Small city and a governor for 2 years of a state with a smaller population of Austin Texas

Wow, both of you need to grow up. The most immature posts I've seen on GS yet.

well my statement is true, it seems like that all you have to do to be VP

She has governoring experience. Unlike your candidate.

and unlike you presidential candidate

[QUOTE="fidosim"]That was a terrific speech, I like this lady. I liked Giuliani's speech too. There were some good disses tonight. "I guess being a mayor is kind of like being a community organizer, except when you're a mayor you have actual responsibilities." :lol:Tjeremiah1988

it was far from terrific.

No, not really. You can fold your arms and grimace in the corner though.

[QUOTE="cametall"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]I'm going to be a pow so I have enough experience to run for president!hokies1313

Yea and I will be a mayor of a Small city and a governor for 2 years of a state with a smaller population of Austin Texas

And I'm going to write 2 memoirs and press the "present" button so I can run for president too!

Exactly. That was a terrific point. There is no "present" option for the Presidency.

There isn't. The mccain campaign thinks so though. Every speech on mccain has mentioned his pow experience, and since obama hasn't served he isn't ready to be president.

[QUOTE="hokies1313"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="hokies1313"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]I'm going to be a pow so I have enough experience to run for president!p2rus

Yea and I will be a mayor of a Small city and a governor for 2 years of a state with a smaller population of Austin Texas

Wow, both of you need to grow up. The most immature posts I've seen on GS yet.

well my statement is true, it seems like that all you have to do to be VP

She has governoring experience. Unlike your candidate.

Yes , but McCain has actually tried to accomplished things in the senate, as opposed to just voting present.

[QUOTE="cametall"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]I'm going to be a pow so I have enough experience to run for president!alexmurray

Yea and I will be a mayor of a Small city and a governor for 2 years of a state with a smaller population of Austin Texas

And I'm going to write 2 memoirs and press the "present" button so I can run for president too!

cough lincon cough

You are undermining your own initial point.

Is experience an issue or not?

[QUOTE="hokies1313"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="hokies1313"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]I'm going to be a pow so I have enough experience to run for president!alexmurray

Yea and I will be a mayor of a Small city and a governor for 2 years of a state with a smaller population of Austin Texas

Wow, both of you need to grow up. The most immature posts I've seen on GS yet.

well my statement is true, it seems like that all you have to do to be VP

She has governoring experience. Unlike your candidate.

and unlike you presidential candidate

umm you are aware he was nominated to become a general which means he has military leadership experience and that's tuff work. So don't say he doesn't have leadership experience. He has a hell of alot more than Obama.

[QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="cametall"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]I'm going to be a pow so I have enough experience to run for president!hokies1313

Yea and I will be a mayor of a Small city and a governor for 2 years of a state with a smaller population of Austin Texas

And I'm going to write 2 memoirs and press the "present" button so I can run for president too!

cough lincon cough

First off, Linkcoln, and I don't think he ever wrote memiors. And he actually voted on laws, instead of "present."

yes but he had almost no experience and from the same state as obama