Poll: Do you listen to Screamo?

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#151 Floppy_Jim
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No.....God, no.
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#152 OfficialBed
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[QUOTE="sonic__323"]

[QUOTE="RawShnizz"]

That's not screamo :

RawShnizz


Check out this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxGJbmmGDRY&feature=related

Just because they scream doesn't mean it's screamo. I'd call it Metalcore. This is screamo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooGFcNCcG00

I'm sorry, I have to disagree with you and agree with "sonic__323".

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#153 Sway-
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No I dont really enjoy it although I dont hate it.
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#154 Vfanek
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The one and only music genre I can't stand for the life of me. Really, I can listen to eastern European, badly produced bedroom grindcore. But screamo? No, awful music is absolutely awful.
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#155 YourChaosIsntMe
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[QUOTE="RawShnizz"]

[QUOTE="sonic__323"]
Check out this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxGJbmmGDRY&feature=related

OfficialBed

Just because they scream doesn't mean it's screamo. I'd call it Metalcore. This is screamo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooGFcNCcG00

I'm sorry, I have to disagree with you and agree with "sonic__323".

It's not about disagreeing or agreeing. It isn't a discussion that is up for debate.

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#156 sonic__323
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[QUOTE="sonic__323"]

[QUOTE="RawShnizz"]

That's not screamo :

RawShnizz


Check out this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxGJbmmGDRY&feature=related

Just because they scream doesn't mean it's screamo. I'd call it Metalcore. This is screamo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooGFcNCcG00

Weird, well yeah that one is screamo, I probably got confused or I did not post a screamo song from Blessthefall it could be that.

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#157 OfficialBed
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[QUOTE="OfficialBed"]

[QUOTE="RawShnizz"] Just because they scream doesn't mean it's screamo. I'd call it Metalcore. This is screamo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooGFcNCcG00

YourChaosIsntMe

I'm sorry, I have to disagree with you and agree with "sonic__323".

It's not about disagreeing or agreeing. It isn't a discussion that is up for debate.

You're just coming off as you know what screamo is and isn't, which I disagree with.

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#158 RawShnizz
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[QUOTE="RawShnizz"]

[QUOTE="sonic__323"]
Check out this one:

YourChaosIsntMe

Just because they scream doesn't mean it's screamo. I'd call it Metalcore. This is screamo:

I already tried on the last page. I think we need to concede that pop-culture stole our genre title. Good job on the Indian Summer link, though I doubt anyone will listen.

Yeah, I guess you're right... And Indian Summer is amazing.

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#159 Morning_Revival
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It isn't a discussion that is up for debate.YourChaosIsntMe
Thats what OT is for...
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#160 RawShnizz
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[QUOTE="YourChaosIsntMe"]

[QUOTE="OfficialBed"]

I'm sorry, I have to disagree with you and agree with "sonic__323".

OfficialBed

It's not about disagreeing or agreeing. It isn't a discussion that is up for debate.

You're just coming off as you know what screamo is and isn't, which I disagree with.

I don't really see how you can, as it's defined as a specific genre, and has been assigned to several bands, some accurately, some not
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#161 sonic__323
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[QUOTE="OfficialBed"]

[QUOTE="YourChaosIsntMe"]

[QUOTE="OfficialBed"]

I'm sorry, I have to disagree with you and agree with "sonic__323".

It's not about disagreeing or agreeing. It isn't a discussion that is up for debate.

You're just coming off as you know what screamo is and isn't, which I disagree with.

Thank you but yeah, let's not leave this thread as a debate.
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#162 broken_bass_bin
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No, it's dreadful

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#163 sonic__323
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Looks like a lot of people hate screamo.. :|

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#164 ArmoredCore55
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Nope, sorry.
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#165 go-cizmek
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Scream-o? I've never even heard of that and I have no actual idea what that is *goes to Wikipedia*

Oh, you mean the music genre? Nope, can't say I have.

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#166 sonic__323
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Scream-o? I've never even heard of that and I have no actual idea what that is *goes to Wikipedia*

Oh, you mean the music genre? Nope, can't say I have.

go-cizmek


You should at least try to listen to it to see if you like it.

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#167 YourChaosIsntMe
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You can't disagree with it. I've already made it clear that I concede the genre title to the terrible music that has been given the title over the past half-decade in the "mainstream" music industry. What you know of as "screamo" is only related to the genre distantly. Instead of arguing with me, listen to the bands that RawShnizz and I listed. In essence, they have a lot in common with your favorite bands. It's exceedingly complex this decade because the vast majority of popular music shares some connection with legitimate non-commercial genres. Music, contrary to popular belief, is not defined by popular opinion. The issue of screamo gets difficult because the music you listen to can have no other title. It's entire existence beginning earlier this decade is formed around misappropriating a genre title (thanks to the roll of toilet paper called Rolling Stone). It's peculiar because this has never happened before in the history of pop music (which is only 60 years old anyway). It's an issue of a commercial subgenre of "pop" being vaguely influenced by a genre of music called screamo, and then appropriating that title (this is actually the case with all emo...kind of).

In fact, a consideration for the entire development of emo, post-hardcore, and screamo and it's eventual demise under the weight of pop-culture is woefully complex, and I don't have the time to discuss it. Instead of listening to me, and instead of wasting an hour of my life, go to Amazon.com and order Dance of Days, then visit Fourfa's what the heck is emo anyway? After this, visit all of the live performances RawShnizz and I linked to. You can also visit a companion site to Fourfa's with mp3 samples.

I will gladly discuss the topic further when I have more time, if you so wish. There's nothing I enjoy more than the subject of musicology. :)

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#168 sonic__323
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[QUOTE="YourChaosIsntMe"]

You can't disagree with it. I've already made it clear that I concede the genre title to the terrible music that has been given the title over the past half-decade in the "mainstream" music industry. What you know of as "screamo" is only related to the genre distantly. Instead of arguing with me, listen to the bands that RawShnizz and I listed. In essence, they have a lot in common with your favorite bands. It's exceedingly complex this decade because the vast majority of popular music shares some connection with legitimate non-commercial genres. Music, contrary to popular belief, is not defined by popular opinion. The issue of screamo gets difficult because the music you listen to can have no other title. It's entire existence beginning earlier this decade is formed around misappropriating a genre title (thanks to the roll of toilet paper called Rolling Stone). It's peculiar because this has never happened before in the history of pop music (which is only 60 years old anyway). It's an issue of a commercial subgenre of "pop" being vaguely influenced by a genre of music called screamo, and then appropriating that title (this is actually the case with all emo...kind of).

In fact, a consideration for the entire development of emo, post-hardcore, and screamo and it's eventual demise under the weight of pop-culture is woefully complex, and I don't have the time to discuss it. Instead of listening to me, and instead of wasting an hour of my life, go to Amazon.com and order Dance of Days, then visit Fourfa's what the heck is emo anyway? After this, visit all of the live performances RawShnizz and I linked to. You can also visit a companion site to Fourfa's with mp3 samples.

I will gladly discuss the topic further when I have more time, if you so wish. There's nothing I enjoy more than the subject of musicology. :)

Wow, that was long..
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#169 SuperVegeta518
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Post-hardcore and metalcore bands are not screamo. Screamo is an offshoot of hardcore punk and emo.

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#170 sonic__323
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Post-hardcore and metalcore bands are not screamo. Screamo is an offshoot of hardcore punk and emo.

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You got that right.
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#171 FlyingArmbar
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I find the poll results hard to believe. There are so many death metal fans on this forum. Death metal = screamo. Stop denying it death metal fans!

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#172 sonic__323
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I find the poll results hard to believe. There are so many death metal fans on this forum.

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#173 SuperVegeta518
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I find the poll results hard to believe. There are so many death metal fans on this forum. Death metal = screamo. Stop denying it death metal fans!

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How much ignorance can be found in just one post?

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#174 Avistann
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I find the poll results hard to believe. There are so many death metal fans on this forum. Death metal = screamo. Stop denying it death metal fans!

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No its not. Screamo is screamo. Death metal is Death metal. Pretty easy concept. To answer the question, no I do not listen to Screamo. I listen to screaming music but of the genres of Post Hardcore, Metalcore, mathcore, electrocore, and deathcore.

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#175 Lief_Ericson
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[QUOTE="Lief_Ericson"]

I like some bands that people label screamo but i dont listen to any real screamo bands

Morning_Revival

May I ask which bands?

Alesana, Attack Attack!, A Static Lullaby, blessthefall :P

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#176 -Sniper99-
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I find the poll results hard to believe. There are so many death metal fans on this forum. Death metal = screamo. Stop denying it death metal fans!

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#177 sonic__323
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[QUOTE="Lief_Ericson"]

[QUOTE="Morning_Revival"][QUOTE="Lief_Ericson"]

I like some bands that people label screamo but i dont listen to any real screamo bands

May I ask which bands?

Alesana, Attack Attack!, A Static Lullaby, blessthefall :P

Blessthefall is my favorite band of screamo.
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#178 Lief_Ericson
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Found some real screamo

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#179 Avistann
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[QUOTE="sonic__323"] Blessthefall is my favorite band of screamo.

They aren't screamo
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#180 sonic__323
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[QUOTE="sonic__323"] Blessthefall is my favorite band of screamo.Avistann
They aren't screamo

Yeah they are, a lot of people I know say that they screamo.
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#181 Avistann
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[QUOTE="Avistann"][QUOTE="sonic__323"] Blessthefall is my favorite band of screamo.sonic__323
They aren't screamo

Yeah they are, a lot of people I know say that they screamo.

They are post hardcore. Just because they scream does not mean they are screamo. They are post-hardcore.
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#182 sonic__323
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[QUOTE="sonic__323"][QUOTE="Avistann"] They aren't screamoAvistann
Yeah they are, a lot of people I know say that they screamo.

They are post hardcore. Just because they scream does not mean they are screamo. They are post-hardcore.

Well, how you do you know for sure that they really are?
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#183 YourChaosIsntMe
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[QUOTE="Avistann"][QUOTE="sonic__323"] Yeah they are, a lot of people I know say that they screamo.sonic__323
They are post hardcore. Just because they scream does not mean they are screamo. They are post-hardcore.

Well, how you do you know for sure that they really are?

Discussion need not be mundane. Some responses warrant a long response. Even so, I would consider that a short response.

Anyway, I have made the point clear. I have provided you with empirical evidence. Again, musicology is not defined nor directed by your opinion, or your friends' opinions. It would be advantageous for you to understand that you may actually know absolutely nothing about the genre. There is nothing wrong with the music that you like, and you're entitled to listen to it without being disrespected, but your opinion is patently wrong; you are misinformed. There is nothing wrong with this - the vast majority of people know nothing about the arts in general, be it music or literature. If you so choose, you can develop an understanding of the genre. You will not accomplish this by convincing yourself that everyone's opinion is valid and applicable, or assuming that a general consensus serves as validation.

I have given you the tools to discover screamo. Do so if you wish. If you're content with listening to pop*, then ignore me and enjoy the music that pleases you.

*I'm referring to pop in the negative exclusive.

Edit: Sonic, is English not your native tongue? If it isn't, I apologize for being so "wordy."

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#184 themagicbum9720
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nope, can't stand it.
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#185 Juggernaut140
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I find the poll results hard to believe. There are so many death metal fans on this forum. Death metal = screamo. Stop denying it death metal fans!

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Says you
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#186 freek666
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lol no thanks.

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#187 FlyingArmbar
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[QUOTE="FlyingArmbar"]

I find the poll results hard to believe. There are so many death metal fans on this forum. Death metal = screamo. Stop denying it death metal fans!

Juggernaut140

Says you

Yes says me. I think we can all agree that screaming / growling sounds bad and is not singing. The only way they get people to listen to their music is by inserting backwards lyrics that subconciously brainwash their listeners.

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#188 Juggernaut140
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[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="FlyingArmbar"]

I find the poll results hard to believe. There are so many death metal fans on this forum. Death metal = screamo. Stop denying it death metal fans!

FlyingArmbar

Says you

Yes says me. I think we can all agree that screaming / growling sounds bad and is not singing. The only way they get people to listen to their music is by inserting backwards lyrics that subconciously brainwash their listeners.

Proof of brainwashing please?
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#189 Juggernaut140
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I mean, that doesn't even make sense. :? Brainwashing us with lyrics that we can't even understand? How the **** does that work? And no, I don't agree. Growling sounds great. :|
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#190 Gaming-Planet
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No I don't like it.

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#191 YourChaosIsntMe
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[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]I mean, that doesn't even make sense. :? Brainwashing us with lyrics that we can't even understand? How the **** does that work? And no, I don't agree. Growling sounds great. :|

I think he's just trolling.
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#192 iam2green
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yes, sometimes i listen to screamo music.
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#193 jazzkrotch
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No. In many ways, screamo is worse than hip hop/rap or country.

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#194 cowboymonkey21
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God no! It's like grinding sandpaper against my eardrums. It hurts like Hell!:|

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#195 dante_123456
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I find the poll results hard to believe. There are so many death metal fans on this forum. Death metal = screamo. Stop denying it death metal fans!

FlyingArmbar
screaming at the top of your lungs has very little to do with guttural Death Metal vocals. Harsh vocals are the only thing Screamo and DM have in common, if a Screamo "musician" tryed to play a Death Metal rif he would most likely explode from doing so
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#197 sonic__323
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I mean, that doesn't even make sense. :? Brainwashing us with lyrics that we can't even understand? How the **** does that work? And no, I don't agree. Growling sounds great. :| Juggernaut140
Agreed.
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#198 sammyjenkis898
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[QUOTE="Lief_Ericson"]

[QUOTE="Morning_Revival"]May I ask which bands?sonic__323

Alesana, Attack Attack!, A Static Lullaby, blessthefall :P

Blessthefall is my favorite band of screamo.

Blessthefall is not screamo..
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#199 Vfanek
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[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]I mean, that doesn't even make sense. :? Brainwashing us with lyrics that we can't even understand? How the **** does that work? And no, I don't agree. Growling sounds great. :|

Screamo isn't growling.
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#200 sonic__323
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[QUOTE="sonic__323"][QUOTE="Lief_Ericson"]

Alesana, Attack Attack!, A Static Lullaby, blessthefall :P

sammyjenkis898

Blessthefall is my favorite band of screamo.

Blessthefall is not screamo..

Isn't it mixed with metalcore, screamo, or another music genre??