Is this a man a loser? A wizard can't be a loser.
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No, I think they're teenagers. What do you do for fun, anyway? I see you're against additives.[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"] But let me ask you this, you think the guys, which the TC speaks of, who goes hiding in their garage to smoke pot in the middle of the day are winners of society?Dark-Sithious
So you would be happy if your son smoked or drank alchohol in the middle of the day, then coming home and being completly wasted/stoned?
Either way, even if you're a teenager smoking pot is an idiotic activity, and you could get addicted to the feeling of being high/stoned. Waste of monies, time, and it'll increase the chances of getting cancer.
If you want a great feeling, why not go to the gym? It also releases endorphines and it's healthy for you. You'll feel better, look better and that feeling won't go away just after a few hours.
You didn't answer my question :x Anyway, obviously, I would ground the kid, depending on his age.[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"]i'm not the one with learning to do. you have some serious misconception mate. alcohol is the addictive substance. any by-products or additional chemical reactions stem from the substance. what you just said is totally ridiculous. it's like saying the internal chemical reactions that take place after using say, cocaine, are the addictive substance and not the cocaine itself. cause. effect. learn to differentiate.It's addictive because the feeling it creates, learn to read, it is all stated above
Dark-Sithious
If that's what you call physical addiction I admit defeat, but I would call pot addictive in the same sense as alcohol, but to a lesser extent.
well science has proven Alcohol. hence the alcoholism addiction research center down the street from me and the countless white papers you can find online. it's physically addictive. weed, is not.[QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] No, I think they're teenagers. What do you do for fun, anyway? I see you're against additives.Jandurin
So you would be happy if your son smoked or drank alchohol in the middle of the day, then coming home and being completly wasted/stoned?
Either way, even if you're a teenager smoking pot is an idiotic activity, and you could get addicted to the feeling of being high/stoned. Waste of monies, time, and it'll increase the chances of getting cancer.
If you want a great feeling, why not go to the gym? It also releases endorphines and it's healthy for you. You'll feel better, look better and that feeling won't go away just after a few hours.
You didn't answer my question :x Anyway, obviously, I would ground the kid, depending on his age.Well, as insinuated by the post above I really enjoy physical activities, alone, or with friends and enjoying nature with all the activities that includes. I also enjoy the occasional party which ofc leads to me getting wasted. Watching winter sports, movies, computer stuff, the usual hanging with friends, and so on.
Ofc I see that this is a set up for you saying practicing a certain activity makes me a loser, as smoking pot could be described as an activity in the similar sense. But just meh.
No, I was just curious. Your opinion may be wrong, but it's your opinion. I'm not going to pretend I have the same opinion as you about what you do when I don't agree with your opinion in the first place. That would be disingenuous! :lol:Ofc I see that this is a set up for you saying practicing a certain activity makes me a loser, as smoking pot could be described as an activity in the similar sense. But just meh.
Dark-Sithious
[QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"]No, I was just curious. Your opinion may be wrong, but it's your opinion. I'm not going to pretend I have the same opinion as you about what you do when I don't agree with your opinion in the first place. That would be disingenuous! :lol:Ofc I see that this is a set up for you saying practicing a certain activity makes me a loser, as smoking pot could be described as an activity in the similar sense. But just meh.
Jandurin
Hmm, I don't see how you can't have the same opinion as me, considering the scientific fact, that I'm always right.
I smoke and most of my friends moved away or are always working.
So I imagine it wasnt me smoking that made them pick these decisions.
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"]No, I was just curious. Your opinion may be wrong, but it's your opinion. I'm not going to pretend I have the same opinion as you about what you do when I don't agree with your opinion in the first place. That would be disingenuous! :lol:Ofc I see that this is a set up for you saying practicing a certain activity makes me a loser, as smoking pot could be described as an activity in the similar sense. But just meh.
Dark-Sithious
Hmm, I don't see how you can't have the same opinion as me, considering the scientific fact, that I'm always right.
That statement actually embodies your entire mentality, makes sense why you don't like difficult words and have been making up definitions for two pages.. :lol: Debating something you don't understand isn't what I would call "winning at society" either.. Marijuana is not physically addictive.Either way, regardless of my conservative views on narcotics, I still find it disturbing how you all seem to attack the TC solely based on your personal preference of pot.
He told a story about his experience with pot use or abuse, and it's quite frankly pathetic that you attack him, to justify your own standpoint or use of this drug. Ofc I just skimmed the surface of this thread so I might be wrong.
Oh and yes, I attacked pot users being down right rude, but that was intentional and had logical reasons, while you responded in an emotional fashion.
*gives my self a pat for being totally unreasonable*
It's more that I think he's wrong, in this case, to blame pot.Either way, regardless of my conservative views on narcotics, I still find it disturbing how you all seem to attack the TC solely based on your personal preference of pot.
He told a story about his experience with pot use or abuse, and it's quite frankly pathetic that you attack him, to justify your own standpoint or use of this drug. Ofc I just skimmed the surface of this thread so I might be wrong.
Oh and yes, I attacked pot users being down right rude, but that was intentional and had logical reasons, while you responded in an emotional fashion.
*gives my self a pat for being totally unreasonable*
Dark-Sithious
[QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] No, I was just curious. Your opinion may be wrong, but it's your opinion. I'm not going to pretend I have the same opinion as you about what you do when I don't agree with your opinion in the first place. That would be disingenuous! :lol:warbmxjohn
Hmm, I don't see how you can't have the same opinion as me, considering the scientific fact, that I'm always right.
That statement actually embodies your entire mentality, makes sense why you don't like difficult words and have been making up definitions for two pages.. :lol: Debating something you don't understand isn't what I would call "winning at society" either.. Marijuana is not physically addictive.Making up definitions? How outrageous.
Studies do show however that marijuana does create withdrawel symptoms, and that is what you determine to be physically addictive?
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Pot isn't physically addictive. So its not the drugs fault.Dark-Sithious
Alcohol is not addictive either, but the feeling it creates is, same with pot.
I beleive this is all the evidence I need to assert you do not know enough about the subject to still be participating in this debate.The thing about pot is, smoking it at work, or in the middle of a day, is the same as drinking alcohol, but worse still, as you unlike alcholic drinks, it doesn't taste good. So it can't be compared with having a beer with a ball game, so, if you smoke pot, you're a loser.Dark-SithiousAnd I'm not sure how to rationally reply to this nonsense...
[QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"]It's more that I think he's wrong, in this case, to blame pot.Either way, regardless of my conservative views on narcotics, I still find it disturbing how you all seem to attack the TC solely based on your personal preference of pot.
He told a story about his experience with pot use or abuse, and it's quite frankly pathetic that you attack him, to justify your own standpoint or use of this drug. Ofc I just skimmed the surface of this thread so I might be wrong.
Oh and yes, I attacked pot users being down right rude, but that was intentional and had logical reasons, while you responded in an emotional fashion.
*gives my self a pat for being totally unreasonable*
Jandurin
Obviously judging from the story, pot is to blame for the changed behaviour patterns, well, more correctly, them taking pot is to blame, but still.
TL; DR. Oh and to remind you: you took pot; it didn't take you.super_mario_128If you'd read it, you'd know pot took his friends. And then beat up his puppy!
withdrawal symptoms like irritability and anxiety. Because their BRAINS ARE WORKING AGAIN. Those aren't real. They're just not high and they forgot what it was like to be able to think and form conclusions easily.Studies do show however that marijuana does create withdrawel symptoms, and that is what you determine to be physically addictive?
Dark-Sithious
[QUOTE="super_mario_128"]TL; DR. Oh and to remind you: you took pot; it didn't take you.JandurinIf you'd read it, you'd know pot took his friends. And then beat up his puppy!Ahh Jandurin.. :lol:
[QUOTE="super_mario_128"]TL; DR. Oh and to remind you: you took pot; it didn't take you.JandurinIf you'd read it, you'd know pot took his friends. And then beat up his puppy! It didn't take him though, ergo your argument is invalid. :|
[QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"]I beleive this is all the evidence I need to assert you do not know enough about the subject to still be participating in this debate.[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
Alcohol is not addictive either, but the feeling it creates is, same with pot.
warbmxjohn
The thing about pot is, smoking it at work, or in the middle of a day, is the same as drinking alcohol, but worse still, as you unlike alcholic drinks, it doesn't taste good. So it can't be compared with having a beer with a ball game, so, if you smoke pot, you're a loser.Dark-SithiousAnd I'm not sure how to rationally reply to this nonsense...
I still stand by my point.
No, it's his friends growing up and choosing a lifestyle that he doesn't approve of. I reckon he isn't uninvited, he just doesn't want to do what they've decided is fun. He's to blame, and his friends growing older.Obviously judging from the story, pot is to blame for the changed behaviour patterns, well, more correctly, them taking pot is to blame, but still.
Dark-Sithious
that stuff is worse for you than most people realize. you'll eventually get residue in your lungs and do nothing but cough. dissonantblackI had a friend who got a collapsed lung. Poor guy.
It didn't take him though, ergo your argument is invalid. :|super_mario_128Only I may use the word ergo!
[QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"]withdrawal symptoms like irritability and anxiety. Because their BRAINS ARE WORKING AGAIN. Those aren't real. They're just not high and they forgot what it was like to be able to think and form conclusions easily.Studies do show however that marijuana does create withdrawel symptoms, and that is what you determine to be physically addictive?
Jandurin
Right, so their brains aren't working when inhaling marij? That's a strong argument for pot.
Even so, I put more faith in official studies. And I still think pot is in the same addiction category as alcohol.
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"]withdrawal symptoms like irritability and anxiety. Because their BRAINS ARE WORKING AGAIN. Those aren't real. They're just not high and they forgot what it was like to be able to think and form conclusions easily.Studies do show however that marijuana does create withdrawel symptoms, and that is what you determine to be physically addictive?
Dark-Sithious
Right, so their brains aren't working when inhaling marij? That's a strong argument for pot.
Even so, I put more faith in official studies. And I still think pot is in the same addiction category as alcohol.
Which proves you've never read any studies comparing the two and the extremely varying addictive properties. You are entirely 100% wrong, and would vastly benefit from educating yourself.Pretty much any drug in excess will screw you over. In moderation, just like alcohol, you can have a fun and harmless time using marijuana. But once you make it a habit, you can become mentally addicted to it.
I think part of the problem is you though. You are too judgemental of people who smoke weed. Try not being so judging and you'll see your social life bright up.
Or you could try weed yourself, but honestly I wouldn't want anyone to try weed until at least their senior year in High School.
Why would I argue *for* pot? :?Right, so their brains aren't working when inhaling marij? That's a strong argument for pot.
Dark-Sithious
Potheads are a laughing stock . Me and the Blockbuster employee were laughing at a pothead who was in line in front of me the other day. He reeked of weed, could barely keep his eyes open, and didn't have the motivation to return his rental to the right store. Apparently it was too far away. The BB guy said he went to high school with him and some things never change. We laugh at the smell and I left.
haha. Blockbuster employees. I remember when I worked at Blockbuster. I bet he was high.Potheads are a laughing stock . Me and the Blockbuster employee were laughing at a pothead who was in line in front of me the other day. He reeked of weed, could barely keeps his eyes open, and didn't have the motivation to return his rental to the right store. Apparently it was too far away. The BB guy said he went to high school with him and some things never change. We laugh at the smell and I left.
greeneye59
[QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] withdrawal symptoms like irritability and anxiety. Because their BRAINS ARE WORKING AGAIN. Those aren't real. They're just not high and they forgot what it was like to be able to think and form conclusions easily.warbmxjohn
Right, so their brains aren't working when inhaling marij? That's a strong argument for pot.
Even so, I put more faith in official studies. And I still think pot is in the same addiction category as alcohol.
Which proves you've never read any studies comparing the two and the extremely varying addictive properties. You are entirely 100% wrong, and would vastly benefit from educating yourself.As I've said before, pot is less addictive than alcohol, and the level of addiction is not what I meant with addiction category
Just to add something: Driving under the influence of pot is more dangerous than under the influence of alcohol.Nifty_SharkBS. Unless you're talking like 1 beer or something.
Just to add something: Driving under the influence of pot is more dangerous than under the influence of alcohol.Nifty_SharkI'm not sure what you base that on, but I want to point out that driving without being under the influence of either is probably more dangerous than being under the influence of either without driving. I think cars are the real problem there.
[QUOTE="Nifty_Shark"]Just to add something: Driving under the influence of pot is more dangerous than under the influence of alcohol.gobo212Is there any evidence of that?
Nope. I was just curious how people would react:D
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[QUOTE="Nifty_Shark"]Just to add something: Driving under the influence of pot is more dangerous than under the influence of alcohol.JandurinBS. Unless you're talking like 1 beer or something.
Yeah, driving under the influence of Marijuana is less dangerous than that of alcohol. Still, it is an impairment of judgement, so driving after smoking isn't particularly safe.
Is there any evidence of that?[QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="Nifty_Shark"]Just to add something: Driving under the influence of pot is more dangerous than under the influence of alcohol.Nifty_Shark
Nope. I was just curious how people would react:D
lol :P Careful with that. Technically, that is trolling, though I think that the trolling definitions are far too... all encompassing on this forum.Dude, the end point, as the other dude said, is that any driving is freaking unsafe. They should have a "Just say No" campaign for getting into cars, ever. :Pso driving after smoking isn't particularly safe.
Dark-Sithious
Just to add something: Driving under the influence of pot is more dangerous than under the influence of alcohol.Nifty_Shark:lol: Seriously? hahahahahaha
BS. Unless you're talking like 1 beer or something.ving[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Nifty_Shark"]Just to add something: Driving under the influence of pot is more dangerous than under the influence of alcohol.Dark-Sithious
Yeah, driving under the influence of Marijuana is less dangerous than that of alcohol. Still, it is an impairment of judgement, so driving after smoking isn't particularly safe.
I would bet it is less dangerous than driving in a bad mood or even while mad.
Is there any evidence of that?[QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="Nifty_Shark"]Just to add something: Driving under the influence of pot is more dangerous than under the influence of alcohol.Nifty_Shark
Nope. I was just curious how people would react:D
... ah. Well, at least you clarified afterwards that it was an act instead of keeping with it...[QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"]Dude, the end point, as the other dude said, is that any driving is freaking unsafe. They should have a "Just say No" campaign for getting into cars, ever. :Pso driving after smoking isn't particularly safe.
Jandurin
No jokes! :evil:
I'm in a hatefull mood, as I hate pot heads. And no, it's not projection.
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