Proof that God DOESNT exist (in an Athiests eyes)

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#51 alexside1
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="LOXO7"] Global warming. Someone brought that up (corporations). And we have yet to see the coasts of the world flood to destroy all of the cities.

If that your counter argument then it's a piss poor one, ask bum-fluff.

Explain.

I do not need to explain something that is so f*cking obvious.
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#52 ferrari2001
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You know how long this argument has been around... there are plenty of responses that have been given by both Christans and Non-Christans alike to this question. The answer in fact is so well known that it is not worth anybodies time to repeat it.
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#53 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="Barbariser"]

You don't need to prove that God doesn't exist to claim that he doesn't, just like you don't need proof that my 15-inch invisible golden penis doesn't exist to claim that I don't have one.

LOXO7

Of course you do, you made the claim thus you need to prove it. The burden of proof rest of the person making the claim not the person hearing the claim.

Global warming. Someone brought that up (corporations). And we have yet to see the coasts of the world flood to destroy all of the cities.

ummm, maybe because it is scientifically predicted that the shores should flood in dozens of years from now????? No scientist has ever said that any city will be flood by 2011??? If your gona criticize global warming, at least do some real research on it

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#54 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="Nicksonman"] What an insult to humanity that is...alexside1

Stop acting that humanity deserve respect. I'm not going to even address that quote sense you greatly exaggerated.

are you being sarcastic. Humanity doesnt deserve respect????
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#55 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="alexside1"] If that your counter argument then it's a piss poor one, ask bum-fluff.

Explain.

I do not need to explain something that is so f*cking obvious.

I forget what the type of learning this is. Maybe you can enlighten me? When I was in school my science books had Pluto as a planet in our solar system. But now they say Pluto isn't a planet and the children's science books don't have Pluto as a planet. What do you think the future generation will think of Pluto now, is it a planet or not? The kind of learning that repeats it's self. Everyone keeps saying it over and over. Sort of like when people thought the world was flat. Everyone just accepted it because people in power said it was so. What is this teaching called?
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#56 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="alexside1"] Of course you do, you made the claim thus you need to prove it. The burden of proof rest of the person making the claim not the person hearing the claim.BossPerson

Global warming. Someone brought that up (corporations). And we have yet to see the coasts of the world flood to destroy all of the cities.

ummm, maybe because it is scientifically predicted that the shores should flood in dozens of years from now????? No scientist has ever said that any city will be flood by 2011??? If your gona criticize global warming, at least do some real research on it

Why should I criticize something that's made up and something I don't believe in? Huh. Sort of like atheist do to God.
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#57 Spitfirer
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Yeah, science is also a constantly changing field. However, it's based on legitimate experiments.

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#58 alexside1
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[QUOTE="alexside1"]

[QUOTE="Nicksonman"] What an insult to humanity that is...BossPerson

Stop acting that humanity deserve respect. I'm not going to even address that quote sense you greatly exaggerated.

are you being sarcastic. Humanity doesnt deserve respect????

I'm quite serious, I'm pessimistic when it comes to humanity, because the source of huge *hit coming out of them. Why should god respect humanity? Why does humanity do anything for god that deserves respect? This is the same humanity that actions: World hunger Wars Lies Etc. Hell I can take 2 hours writing this stuff. All of "bad" things are the result of two things. Man and nature. There is no reason whatsoever that should be responsible for this. Nature is just doing it's thing from the beginning of time. If man did something "good" that great, but doesn't mean god automatically respect him because of that. I swear these days, rather than people get used to living they b*tch to GOD as if were going to make life any better.
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#59 alexside1
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[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="LOXO7"] Explain.LOXO7
I do not need to explain something that is so f*cking obvious.

I forget what the type of learning this is. Maybe you can enlighten me? When I was in school my science books had Pluto as a planet in our solar system. But now they say Pluto isn't a planet and the children's science books don't have Pluto as a planet. What do you think the future generation will think of Pluto now, is it a planet or not? The kind of learning that repeats it's self. Everyone keeps saying it over and over. Sort of like when people thought the world was flat. Everyone just accepted it because people in power said it was so. What is this teaching called?

Dude you used some lame ass argument that was used by the infamous user name AV. What you're arguing about is just an example of definitions changing. Man you do NOT understand the basic of science from reading this.

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#60 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="LOXO7"] Explain.

I do not need to explain something that is so f*cking obvious.

I forget what the type of learning this is. Maybe you can enlighten me? When I was in school my science books had Pluto as a planet in our solar system. But now they say Pluto isn't a planet and the children's science books don't have Pluto as a planet. What do you think the future generation will think of Pluto now, is it a planet or not? The kind of learning that repeats it's self. Everyone keeps saying it over and over. Sort of like when people thought the world was flat. Everyone just accepted it because people in power said it was so. What is this teaching called?

It's called science. The intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment. The definition implies that learning is never ending.
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#61 Fundai
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Gods not a moral proportionalist meaning he does not believe a wrong, such as killing someone before there time can be a good act. The reason why god doesn't stop this destruction by killing dictators is because, for lack of a better phrase, it would set a bad precedent. If he's willing to take away his creation whenever he wants, then all of us should RUN LIKE HELL :P. he can but won't. Also, can you say you haven't done bad things too? Why doesn't god just kill you? Or all of us, we've all sinned. Humans cOmmit evil acts be ause moral evil = sin + original sin, which has corrupted our free will. So if gods of the hook there, what about physical evil? Like you gave the examPle of a tsunami, or earthquake. This is harder for me to understand, but it's in our relationship with nature. We live in a broken world; death, disease, and disasters were not supposed to happen. A metaphor I've hear is, since we cut our souls of from god, our bodies and nature did too, as if there were all connected to him on a magnet. Also remember evil is not a being nor can there be pure evil. There is at least a miniscule good in all. ie. cOld does not exist, It is an absence of heat. Like wise, evil is an a anscence. Edit: wow this post is really badly written, I should never post in religion threads 5 minutes after waking up. XD
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#62 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"][QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="alexside1"] I do not need to explain something that is so f*cking obvious.

I forget what the type of learning this is. Maybe you can enlighten me? When I was in school my science books had Pluto as a planet in our solar system. But now they say Pluto isn't a planet and the children's science books don't have Pluto as a planet. What do you think the future generation will think of Pluto now, is it a planet or not? The kind of learning that repeats it's self. Everyone keeps saying it over and over. Sort of like when people thought the world was flat. Everyone just accepted it because people in power said it was so. What is this teaching called?

It's called science. The intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment. The definition implies that learning is never ending.

The heads of the corporations are studding the behavior of people too. If it affects people in their life they are going to care about it. Which is why global warming is so great for them. It spreads fear to millions that someday in their lifetime that the coasts will flood. Now they are free to sell them stuff that fights global warming. And it's normal for the atheist to want to see God physically, because they need proof that God exists. They see horrible destruction. Where is God? God is goodness. And maybe some day we will be rewarded?
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#63 Blue-Sky
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I like how everyone is an expert on the abilities on God.

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#64 Colin1192
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I like how everyone is an expert on the abilities on God.

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anyone can be an expert of a fallacy
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#65 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"][QUOTE="LOXO7"] I forget what the type of learning this is. Maybe you can enlighten me? When I was in school my science books had Pluto as a planet in our solar system. But now they say Pluto isn't a planet and the children's science books don't have Pluto as a planet. What do you think the future generation will think of Pluto now, is it a planet or not? The kind of learning that repeats it's self. Everyone keeps saying it over and over. Sort of like when people thought the world was flat. Everyone just accepted it because people in power said it was so. What is this teaching called?

It's called science. The intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment. The definition implies that learning is never ending.

The heads of the corporations are studding the behavior of people too. If it affects people in their life they are going to care about it. Which is why global warming is so great for them. It spreads fear to millions that someday in their lifetime that the coasts will flood. Now they are free to sell them stuff that fights global warming. And it's normal for the atheist to want to see God physically, because they need proof that God exists. They see horrible destruction. Where is God? God is goodness. And maybe some day we will be rewarded?

I was answering your question on Pluto. I have no answer to this question. It just doesn't make any sense. I mean I get it that you are implying that cooperation's may be using global warming to as a marketing campaign... the rest of what you posted I just don't understand one bit.
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#66 TheStatusQuo
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Man saw the moon and worshipped it in the nox (night). The moon is "sin". That is why you see the people of Moses, led to the Mount Sinai (the moon of sin; a volcanoe at that time).

God is actually, Dogma.

Atheism is a religion; it has firm beliefs that there is no god; preferably that there is no Canaanite deity that controls the elohim; the 28 elohim for the 28 lunar cycle during a month (new to full moon)

Atheism fails because they are too lazy to understand the gnosticism and important of a relationship between the stars and man.

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#67 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"][QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"] It's called science. The intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment. The definition implies that learning is never ending.

The heads of the corporations are studding the behavior of people too. If it affects people in their life they are going to care about it. Which is why global warming is so great for them. It spreads fear to millions that someday in their lifetime that the coasts will flood. Now they are free to sell them stuff that fights global warming. And it's normal for the atheist to want to see God physically, because they need proof that God exists. They see horrible destruction. Where is God? God is goodness. And maybe some day we will be rewarded?

I was answering your question on Pluto. I have no answer to this question. It just doesn't make any sense. I mean I get it that you are implying that cooperation's may be using global warming to as a marketing campaign... the rest of what you posted I just don't understand one bit.

Oh. That last part is about the thread. I'll try to make it clearer next time, when I jump to topics.
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#68 mingmao3046
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athiests dont need to prove anything. believers are the ones who need to show proof.
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#69 alexside1
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Man saw the moon and worshipped it in the nox (night). The moon is "sin". That is why you see the people of Moses, led to the Mount Sinai (the moon of sin; a volcanoe at that time).

God is actually, Dogma.

Atheism is a religion; it has firm beliefs that there is no god; preferably that there is no Canaanite deity that controls the elohim; the 28 elohim for the 28 lunar cycle during a month (new to full moon)

Atheism fails because they are too lazy to understand the gnosticism and important of a relationship between the stars and man.

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Have you been taking drugs lately? Because what you wrote make no sense.
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#70 WiiCubeM1
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I have no beef with atheists, just people who try to destroy my beliefs simply because they have nothing better to do, no matter who they are or what they believe in. You are no better than the common troll.

(Sorry for seeming like a mindless Christian, I'm completely openminded, but this thread only exists to piss people off.)

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God just doesn't give a fuсk.

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#72 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I like how everyone is an expert on the abilities on God.

Colin1192

anyone can be an expert of a fallacy

Like HIV. http://www.aliveandwell.org/html/a_closer_look/faq_doesexist.html

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#73 Nayef_shroof
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There's only one reason needed... All religion points to books written by men. Religion is man made and if you look back far enough to the very beginning of each of the main religions you will find that what got them to spread was not "faith" it was brute force by armies controlled by monarchs and warlords. When democracy kicked in religion stopped spreading and now its used to separate people and fuel wars. Religion has always been a tool and its origins point to a man. Religion is a weapon of war and has caused more deaths than all diseases combined.Religion is the worst thing to happen to humanity.Grey_Eyed_Elf
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL I hope you were joking...Nearly every conflict that has occurred on this planet had no affiliation with religion.

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#74 WiiCubeM1
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[QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"]There's only one reason needed... All religion points to books written by men. Religion is man made and if you look back far enough to the very beginning of each of the main religions you will find that what got them to spread was not "faith" it was brute force by armies controlled by monarchs and warlords. When democracy kicked in religion stopped spreading and now its used to separate people and fuel wars. Religion has always been a tool and its origins point to a man. Religion is a weapon of war and has caused more deaths than all diseases combined.Religion is the worst thing to happen to humanity.Nayef_shroof

Well, technically, EVERY creation of mankind has lead to some form of fighting, same as them leading to some form of progress. Religion did cause hundreds of millions of lives, but it also set laws of morals and ethics, lead to early central governments, some promoted peace in regions of war. Point is, you can fight religion all you want, but It was one of the major, if not THE major driving point, behind humanities progression to civilzation as it united groups of peoples into a larger faction of equal beliefs and morals. There is no arguing that.

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#75 ristactionjakso
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That doesn't explain anything.

God gave the world to humans. Old testament times he did do a bit of policing. New testament he backs off the policing, just watching things play out. We as humans have free will to do anything. Nukes, Hitler or whatever. Hitler had the free will to do anything. My question is why would a whole nation follow such a guy? Because they were corrupt as f*ck. Nukes are here because humans made it. What do you expect God to do? Reach down and take it away? No. He gave humans free will to do as they please. Your actions will determine your outcome in life.

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#76 Bloodseeker23
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I've used the same reasoning once when I was in 10th grade. My perspective of the world has greatly changed since then. There's some things that you really have no power in this world.
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Wow, what a terrible argument.
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#78 chessmaster1989
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Well, now that we've exhausted some of the generic (and moronic) pro-religion arguments, let's start in with some generic (and moronic) anti-religion ones. :roll:
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#79 RandoIph
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God doesn't control the earth, the devil does. Read the bible

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No one controls the earth. It's an active planet. One of the costs of living on an active planet is that this stuff happens.
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#80 coolbeans90
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Well, now that we've exhausted some of the generic (and moronic) pro-religion arguments, let's start in with some generic (and moronic) anti-religion ones. :roll:chessmaster1989

I thought the pictures provided a very compelling argument. I didn't even bother to read the text.

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

God doesn't control the earth, the devil does. Read the bible

RandoIph

No one controls the earth. It's an active planet. One of the costs of living on an active planet is that this stuff happens.

I know that. But when your going to blame a character from a book, at least have a basic understanding of the book first.

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#82 RandoIph
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Old testament times he did do a bit of policing.ristactionjakso
If by policing you mean bloodthirsty rage and murder, then yeah, he did that a lot in the OT. He "backed off" in the NT because the NT and OT are entirely different religions with a shaky at best connection being made because the Christians need their copy pasted messiah to have some legitimacy.
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"God watches everyone all the time and sends you to hell to suffer through all eternity if you break his rules, but he loves you. He loves you and he needs money. He always needs more money"

A freaking priest here owns his own TV channel (he is a freaking billionaire). I don't CARE if god exists, I don't like this god, so he doesn't have my respect.

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#84 RandoIph
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I know that. But when your going to blame a character from a book, at least have a basic understanding of the book first.toast_burner
Said book also claims he can do anything and nothing is impossible for him. So an excuse that basically says "He can't do that because that's something only the devil can do" makes no sense. The two do not mesh. Apparently your post also highlights that most Christians do not read the bible, as every earthquake, tornado outbreak, and etc. is immediately declared to be a sign of Yahweh's displeasure of something, usually gay people. Said book also says God is love, but if you have the power to save a loved one from misery and a horrible death, and you do not do it, that is not love. The two do not mesh at all. If I had two children who were angry at each other, and stepped back and gave them free will to work out their problems, and they beat each other half to death with blunt objects, I would be arrested and treated like an obscene monster, and rightfully so. Of course I would propose he doesn't intervene because he can't, because non-existence precludes such intervention.
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#85 deactivated-59d151f079814
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.. Your view does not prove anything.. Only that god either does not intervene with our reality, or that its so mysterious that we can not see the grand scheme of things to why these things happen..
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#86 RandoIph
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"God watches everyone all the time and sends you to hell to suffer through all eternity if you break his rules, but he loves you. He loves you and he needs money. He always needs more money"Lox_Cropek

Carlin. :D

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]I know that. But when your going to blame a character from a book, at least have a basic understanding of the book first.RandoIph
Said book also claims he can do anything and nothing is impossible for him. So an excuse that basically says "He can't do that because that's something only the devil can do" makes no sense. The two do not mesh. Apparently your post also highlights that most Christians do not read the bible, as every earthquake, tornado outbreak, and etc. is immediately declared to be a sign of Yahweh's displeasure of something, usually gay people. Said book also says God is love, but if you have the power to save a loved one from misery and a horrible death, and you do not do it, that is not love. The two do not mesh at all. If I had two children who were angry at each other, and stepped back and gave them free will to work out their problems, and they beat each other half to death with blunt objects, I would be arrested and treated like an obscene monster, and rightfully so. Of course I would propose he doesn't intervene because he can't, because non-existence precludes such intervention.

You're preaching to the choir

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#88 Ncsoftlover
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god doesn't exist

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#89 Lox_Cropek
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Ok, I'm going to give a warning first: I'm not trying to be offensive(even if I am being offensive), but (if you're close minded, DO NOT READ THE SPOILERS)

[spoiler] It saddens me so much (it really does) that so many people still believe in religion. Heck, the simple fact that you have to "Accept it as truth, and do not ask questions or seek proof" is enough proof for me that it's simply a lie to control people [/spoiler]

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#90 ristactionjakso
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[QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]Old testament times he did do a bit of policing.RandoIph
If by policing you mean bloodthirsty rage and murder, then yeah, he did that a lot in the OT. He "backed off" in the NT because the NT and OT are entirely different religions with a shaky at best connection being made because the Christians need their copy pasted messiah to have some legitimacy.

No. He did just as the topic poster was talking about. He rid the world of evil. Sodom and Gemora, the great flood...He did do as what the topic poster was asking. New testament is the now times. People have free will and get punished or rewarded based on their faith and actions.

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#91 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="RandoIph"][QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]Old testament times he did do a bit of policing.ristactionjakso

If by policing you mean bloodthirsty rage and murder, then yeah, he did that a lot in the OT. He "backed off" in the NT because the NT and OT are entirely different religions with a shaky at best connection being made because the Christians need their copy pasted messiah to have some legitimacy.

No. He did just as the topic poster was talking about. He rid the world of evil. Sodom and Gemora, the great flood...He did do as what the topic poster was asking. New testament is the now times. People have free will and get punished or rewarded based on their faith and actions.

In the old testiment he seemed to be more pissed at nonbelievers and sodomites than evil people.

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#92 Ncsoftlover
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[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"]

[QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"]There's only one reason needed... All religion points to books written by men. Religion is man made and if you look back far enough to the very beginning of each of the main religions you will find that what got them to spread was not "faith" it was brute force by armies controlled by monarchs and warlords. When democracy kicked in religion stopped spreading and now its used to separate people and fuel wars. Religion has always been a tool and its origins point to a man. Religion is a weapon of war and has caused more deaths than all diseases combined.Religion is the worst thing to happen to humanity.WiiCubeM1

Well, technically, EVERY creation of mankind has lead to some form of fighting, same as them leading to some form of progress. Religion did cause hundreds of millions of lives, but it also set laws of morals and ethics, lead to early central governments, some promoted peace in regions of war. Point is, you can fight religion all you want, but It was one of the major, if not THE major driving point, behind humanities progression to civilzation as it united groups of peoples into a larger faction of equal beliefs and morals. There is no arguing that.

As of right now the only they do is holding back progression, and prevent the further development of civil liberties.

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#93 Ncsoftlover
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[QUOTE="RandoIph"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

God doesn't control the earth, the devil does. Read the bible

toast_burner

No one controls the earth. It's an active planet. One of the costs of living on an active planet is that this stuff happens.

I know that. But when your going to blame a character from a book, at least have a basic understanding of the book first.

people can only enjoy well written novels. :P

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#94 RandoIph
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No. He did just as the topic poster was talking about. He rid the world of evil. Sodom and Gemora, the great flood...He did do as what the topic poster was asking. New testament is the now times. People have free will and get punished or rewarded based on their faith and actions.ristactionjakso
LMAO. Another Christian in denial about the contents of the OT. How sad. Mass murdering damn near the entire world for not following him is not ridding the world of evil, it is itself an act of evil. Of course I say this while full well recognizing that the "great flood" did not happen at all. Please do not try to justify the biblical account of it, you can't be that idiotic. Sodom and Gommorah. His main guy that was in one of those cities, he offered up his own daughters to a violent crowd to be raped. What a swell guy, truly a pillar of virtues. Totally the only one worth saving. Or how about when he orders his armies into a city and command them to rip open any pregnant women and dash their babies heads against the rocks for the crime of being born exactly where he presumably as their creator, had them be born? How was the cleansing the world of evil? If someone marched an army across the middle east and slaughtered millions of people for having a different religion, would we praise them for cleansing the world of evil? No, we would amass a huge army and move to end their evil. Because thats what those actions are, evil. whether done by man, or God.
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#95 RandoIph
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people can only enjoy well written novels. :PNcsoftlover
No kidding. LOTR is a much more well written book, and has much more likable characters.
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#96 EntropyWins
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That's your reasoning huh? He should stop the world from working? Stop tectonic plate shifts, affect human's free will, smite people down at will.

There are so many better reasons, and you choose the one that primary school children query? *shakes head*

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Actually the problem of evil is one of the most powerful arguments against an omnibenevolent and omnipotent god.
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#97 chaflifi
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Yeah none of that has nothing to do with god being real or fake, those events just occured and every human has free will-(talking about the hiroshima bombing) God judges when your dead not when your alive things just happen on this planet and theres no reason or scientific explination for it.

Tsunami's are natural and all of those events besides a few are natural events that have occured countless amount of times through out the earths history.

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#98 chaflifi
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Death is apart of the process of life and no matter how you put it it will happen, whether its in the worst way possible or the most peaceful way,(dying in your sleep)

Me personally I do believe in god and I do believe that he can help you somehow, just when you dont expect it in my opinion

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#99 GreekGameManiac
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Lol.

I don't know if there's one supreme god,but i'm quite certain that higher entities and spirits are VERY real.

It's really naive and ignorant to think they don't.

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#100 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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Lol.

I don't know if there's one supreme god,but i'm quite certain that higher entities and spirits are VERY real.

It's really naive and ignorant to think they don't.

GreekGameManiac

Its ignorant to not believe in something with no evidence supporting it?