Prop 19: Rejected by voters

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#1 XxspritexX
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-People will still purchase,sell, and grow it illegally

-Caretls will keep on making money instead of us

Thoughts?

I still don't understand what people fear about it.

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#2 lostfan132
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i blame nancy reagan

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#3 needled24-7
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why the hell would someone not vote for it

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#4 MystikFollower
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Well then I suppose nothing will change. Status quo for the time being.

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#5 Evz0rz
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It's just unbelievable how scared people are of the idea of legalizing marijuana

Edit: We had a discussion about the thing in my English 3 class today (a college class mind you) and I felt completely attacked by a majority of the class because I voted yes, they couldn't see any reason why I would want it legalized, it just baffles me

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#6 MurasakiYugata
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*sigh* My theory is that most people are against pot because it's associated with liberals. Drugs such as alcohol and tobacco are legal because they're associated with the conservative movement and thus seen as more wholesome, despite the fact that they're more dangerous and unhealthy. I mean...I'm sure it's a lot more complex than that, but I think that's what's at the heart of the matter.

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#7 HoolaHoopMan
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I think the numbers were done and they said the elderly, 60+ were not in favor, along with the 39-49 age group (parents) as well. We have the older generation still eating up the propaganda and parents trying to keep their kids from doing it apparently.
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#8 Strider_91
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Guess things stay the same for now, not that they'd of had effect on me anyway
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#9 Wilfred_Owen
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Good......more college kids can complain now. Blame game, here we come!
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#10 XxspritexX
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It's just unbelievable how scared people are of the idea of legalizing marijuana

Evz0rz
Indeed. Most people iv'e met who refuse to legalize it just tell me they dislike it because of personal experiences or the "I know someone who..." arguments which are just flat out false and stupid. "Over" dose on weed? get the hell out of here.....you'd literally have to smoke your body weight but even then that's not possible. addictive? Nope its not even as addictive as sugar gatway drug? the person would have tried Heroin regardless if he or she did herb. And it still shocks me that Cigarettes are legal when that stuff is flat out poison and crazy addictive.
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#11 789shadow
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Would have been struck down anyway. Supremacy clause and all that.

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#12 XxspritexX
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I think the numbers were done and they said the elderly, 60+ were not in favor, along with the 39-49 age group (parents) as well. We have the older generation still eating up the propaganda and parents trying to keep their kids from doing it apparently. HoolaHoopMan
I remember watching those commercials from the 1960's about marijuana and it saying that "MARIJUANA MAKES YOU KILL PEOPLE". So stupid.
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#13 Evz0rz
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[QUOTE="Evz0rz"]

It's just unbelievable how scared people are of the idea of legalizing marijuana

XxspritexX
Indeed. Most people iv'e met who refuse to legalize it just tell me they dislike it because of personal experiences or the "I know someone who..." arguments which are just flat out false and stupid. "Over" dose on weed? get the hell out of here.....you'd literally have to smoke your body weight but even then that's not possible. addictive? Nope its not even as addictive as sugar gatway drug? the person would have tried Heroin regardless if he or she did herb. And it still shocks me that Cigarettes are legal when that stuff is flat out poison and crazy addictive.

What's even crazier is I have a grandma who smokes a pack a day and was "disappointed" in me voting yes :lol:
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I think the numbers were done and they said the elderly, 60+ were not in favor, along with the 39-49 age group (parents) as well. We have the older generation still eating up the propaganda and parents trying to keep their kids from doing it apparently. HoolaHoopMan

60+? Isn't that the flower power, hippie living, free loving generation? I'd think they'd be the first to be advocates.

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I voted yes on it. People can get it easily from those medical marijuana places anyway.
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#16 XxspritexX
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[QUOTE="Evz0rz"] What's even crazier is I have a grandma who smokes a pack a day and was "disappointed" in me voting yes :lol:

May i punch her in the face? -____-
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#17 Evz0rz
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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]I think the numbers were done and they said the elderly, 60+ were not in favor, along with the 39-49 age group (parents) as well. We have the older generation still eating up the propaganda and parents trying to keep their kids from doing it apparently. Rekunta

60+? Isn't that the flower power, hippie living, free loving generation? I'd think they'd be the first to be advocates.

Strange huh? What I'm more interested in is the 60+ residents in San Francisco and what their opinion on it was
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#18 sandbox3d
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Kind of expected honestly. It doesnt really matter though. The question is not if Marijuana will become legal, but when. When you have an incredibly strong and misinforming propaganda movement sweep through a nation and then those ideals are taught and passed on through a few generations its really hard to recover.

We are obviously getting there though. By 2020 I'm sure we'll be looking back on this and having a good laugh.

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#19 XxspritexX
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I voted yes on it. People can get it easily from those medical marijuana places anyway.Allicrombie
It's not that. Yeah sure I can easily purchase it from my neighbor. it's the fact that the tax money could be going somewhere helpful instead of funding cartels. And the money we use on the "drug war" that we are losing by the way against marijuana could be going elsewhere to. To me it's a logical choice. Amsterdam is doing fine I mean no one has gone out killing hundreds of people because he or she was on THC.....at least i don't think so.
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#20 ToastRider11
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oh well. Next topic :P

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#21 Strider_91
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oh well. Next topic :P

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Indeed, i think theres been 3 about this subject already :P
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#22 rockguy92
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[QUOTE="Rekunta"]

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]I think the numbers were done and they said the elderly, 60+ were not in favor, along with the 39-49 age group (parents) as well. We have the older generation still eating up the propaganda and parents trying to keep their kids from doing it apparently. Evz0rz

60+? Isn't that the flower power, hippie living, free loving generation? I'd think they'd be the first to be advocates.

Strange huh? What I'm more interested in is the 60+ residents in San Francisco and what their opinion on it was

Wonder what Tim Lincecum thinks... :P
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#23 XxspritexX
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[QUOTE="Evz0rz"] What's even crazier is I have a grandma who smokes a pack a day and was "disappointed" in me voting yes :lol:

Aww man that makes me rage so hard! :x Im pretty sure most people who voted no smoke and consume alcohol I HATE THAT GRRRRR it dosn't make any sense at all! :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x
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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]I think the numbers were done and they said the elderly, 60+ were not in favor, along with the 39-49 age group (parents) as well. We have the older generation still eating up the propaganda and parents trying to keep their kids from doing it apparently. Rekunta

60+? Isn't that the flower power, hippie living, free loving generation? I'd think they'd be the first to be advocates.

I'm pretty sure the hippies in that generation were still the minority.
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[QUOTE="Rekunta"]

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]I think the numbers were done and they said the elderly, 60+ were not in favor, along with the 39-49 age group (parents) as well. We have the older generation still eating up the propaganda and parents trying to keep their kids from doing it apparently. HoolaHoopMan

60+? Isn't that the flower power, hippie living, free loving generation? I'd think they'd be the first to be advocates.

I'm pretty sure the hippies in that generation were still the minority.

For sure.
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[QUOTE="Rekunta"]

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]I think the numbers were done and they said the elderly, 60+ were not in favor, along with the 39-49 age group (parents) as well. We have the older generation still eating up the propaganda and parents trying to keep their kids from doing it apparently. HoolaHoopMan

60+? Isn't that the flower power, hippie living, free loving generation? I'd think they'd be the first to be advocates.

I'm pretty sure the hippies in that generation were still the minority.

Must be. But seeing all those shows, talking to my parents and stuff it seemed to be a huge majority. Especially in San Fran. Weird.

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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="Rekunta"]

60+? Isn't that the flower power, hippie living, free loving generation? I'd think they'd be the first to be advocates.

Rekunta

I'm pretty sure the hippies in that generation were still the minority.

Must be. But seeing all those shows, talking to my parents and stuff it seemed to be a huge majority. Especially in San Fran. Weird.

Just a very vocal minority I guess.

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#28 KHAndAnime
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Tsk tsk, looks like America is doomed when it comes to progression.
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#29 deactivated-6016f2513d412
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I'm pretty disappointed but not completely surprised.
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#30 DanteSuikoden
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Wouldn't matter since the FBI would've stepped in otherwise

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#31 CJL182
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Similar to gay marriage, I think it's only a matter of time until both are legal.

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#32 XilePrincess
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Good......more college kids can complain now. Blame game, here we come!Wilfred_Owen
I'm sure it's the same complaining college kids who didn't bother to vote, too.
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#33 GazaAli
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Marijuana lovers always amuse me with their passion and arguments :P
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#34 XxspritexX
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Marijuana lovers always amuse me with their passion and arguments :PGazaAli
Marijuana haters always amuse me with their false facts,claims, and anecdotes. :P

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#35 ChubbyGuy40
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I voted no because it'd take away my buisness!* It wouldn't be as fun to show up to work stoned off my ass!

*I do not have any interaction with any illegal substances. It's only a joke. I actually didn't vote at all but hoped this would pass to generate more tax money and to kill off damn gang/cartel revenue.

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#36 sandbox3d
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Marijuana lovers always amuse me with their passion and arguments :PGazaAli

Sure, but not as much as Marijuana haters annoy me with their ignorance and lack of solid arguments.

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#37 GazaAli
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I voted no because it'd take away my buisness!* It wouldn't be as fun to show up to work stoned off my ass!

*I do not have any interaction with any illegal substances. It's only a joke. I actually didn't vote at all but hoped this would pass to generate more tax money and to kill off damn gang/cartel revenue.

ChubbyGuy40

No need to get paranoid :P

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#38 GazaAli
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"] Marijuana haters always amuse me with their false facts,claims, and anecdotes. :P

XxspritexX

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]Marijuana lovers always amuse me with their passion and arguments :Psandbox3d

Sure, but not as much as Marijuana haters annoy me with their ignorance and lack of solid arguments.

I hate Marijuana because its bad and evil :x
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#39 XxspritexX
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"] I hate Marijuana because its bad and evil :x

Nice try bro.
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#40 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

I voted no because it'd take away my buisness!* It wouldn't be as fun to show up to work stoned off my ass!

*I do not have any interaction with any illegal substances. It's only a joke. I actually didn't vote at all but hoped this would pass to generate more tax money and to kill off damn gang/cartel revenue.

GazaAli

No need to get paranoid :P

Actually I said that because I know a few people who voted against it simply because they grow and sell it. I find it sad honestly.

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#41 sandbox3d
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[QUOTE="XxspritexX"]

[QUOTE="GazaAli"] [QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]Marijuana lovers always amuse me with their passion and arguments :PGazaAli

Sure, but not as much as Marijuana haters annoy me with their ignorance and lack of solid arguments.

I hate Marijuana because its bad and evil :x

I know you're joking, but I've seen even worse arguments than that oddly enough.

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#42 Rekunta
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Wouldn't matter since the FBI would've stepped in otherwise

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Pretty much. What good is it to try to get it legalized on the State level when the Feds are just going to walk all over it? Nice sig, btw.

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#43 Suzy_Q_Kazoo
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Hmm, and nothing in my life will change. I had no reason against it in the first place though.

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#44 Jesus_on_fire
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http://www.rollitup.org/legalization-marijuana/352325-myth-facts-prop-19-a.html

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#45 kidsmelly
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Drug cartels paid big money to shoot down this proposition.

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#46 Cube_of_MooN
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That's a shame, I wanted it to pass. It did pretty well though, so maybe in the future a similar proposition will pass.
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#47 sandbox3d
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http://www.rollitup.org/legalization-marijuana/352325-myth-facts-prop-19-a.html

Jesus_on_fire

Wow, that was an interesting read. A few inconsistencies, but definitely gave me a new perspective on the situation.

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#48 Hemaneitor
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Amsterdam and USA can't be compared; second the drug cartels do no want it legalized and by the amount of money they can move I'm sure they'll put up one hell of a fight. And even if it was legalized it would have to be dealt with like any other controlled substance: of legal age, no working or operating heavy machinery under the influence and if I'm not mistaken no use in the public areas. So there goes your dreams of being high as a kite in the park in the middle of day; you'd still get busted if it was legal.
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#49 scorch-62
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Oh joy, another Prop 19/pot thread! \o/
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#50 jimmyjammer69
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Good. I hope people come back to the question when it isn't just about quick bucks.