Prop 19 - What's your stance?

I don't live in Cali, but I probably would have voted for the measure if I happened to live there.

I voted "No" on Proposition 19. To me, the bad outweighs the good. If Prop 19 passes, you'll have an entire wave of people driving high, partying high, and all sorts of other things you need a clear head for. If people drive drunk and party drunk, you can bet they'll drive high and party high. Kids can get ahold of alcohol with relative ease-- they'll be able to get ahold of marijuana with relative ease. Sorry, but pot is not the way to solve the state's financial problems.

MathMattS

If smoking while driving is bad, and drinking while driving is bad, then what the hells the difference between pot and beer. might as well iligalize both

Its different from alcohol because anything with alcohol in it can be taken responsibly and when you take weed, thats it your high and whacked out for a couple of hours. It would be more dangerous for someone who just had weed to be driving than a guy who had beer. And it distracts people from more important than will effect the US in bigger ways. Personally I'm not the one who needs to take drugs to feel better, i find better and healthier ways to do that. ;)

ToastRider11

I voted "No" on Proposition 19. To me, the bad outweighs the good. If Prop 19 passes, you'll have an entire wave of people driving high, partying high, and all sorts of other things you need a clear head for. If people drive drunk and party drunk, you can bet they'll drive high and party high. Kids can get ahold of alcohol with relative ease-- they'll be able to get ahold of marijuana with relative ease. Sorry, but pot is not the way to solve the state's financial problems.

MathMattS

when you take weed, thats it your high and whacked out for a couple

ToastRider11

This is completely untrue. Why do you spout your assumptions as facts?

I have a friend with a medical marijuana license who smokes every single day and after he does there is hardly a noticable difference in his demeanor, certainly no more than alcohol.

Also, the amount smoked certainly makes a huge difference in how you feel, just like alcohol.

Its different from alcohol because anything with alcohol in it can be taken responsibly and when you take weed, thats it your high and whacked out for a couple of hours.

ToastRider11

no on 19. part of cali's $$ is coming from the medical legalization measures already put forth. if this passes the income from this is shattered. also the amount of money it takes to be able to cultivate and receive permit is ridiculous. and the corporations put forth because of this prop would start producing creating an loss of income. also the feds turning it down and blah blah blah..... i dont really care if its legalized, just the proposition has its flaws.huytttr

[QUOTE="ToastRider11"]

Its different from alcohol because anything with alcohol in it can be taken responsibly and when you take weed, thats it your high and whacked out for a couple of hours. It would be more dangerous for someone who just had weed to be driving than a guy who had beer. And it distracts people from more important than will effect the US in bigger ways. Personally I'm not the one who needs to take drugs to feel better, i find better and healthier ways to do that. ;)

HoolaHoopMan

If you get drunk, yeah. It has the potential to impair more than Marijuana.

However I'd say a guy who drank one beer is far far FAR less impaired than a guy who smoked one joint.

[QUOTE="huytttr"]no on 19. part of cali's $$ is coming from the medical legalization measures already put forth. if this passes the income from this is shattered. also the amount of money it takes to be able to cultivate and receive permit is ridiculous. and the corporations put forth because of this prop would start producing creating an loss of income. also the feds turning it down and blah blah blah..... i dont really care if its legalized, just the proposition has its flaws.Stanley09

I really don't agree with that. I'd rather have no law over a really bad law. Are people that desperate to be able to smoke pot without worrying about a 100 dollar fine?

Really I don't even understand how people get caught. Stop carrying it on you/smoking it in public. I don't know of many cases of cops breaking into someones house to arrest them for marijuana usage in their private residence.

Man, I guess marijuana DOES make you paranoid.

I support it, despite the fact that its bad for my local economy.

[QUOTE="ToastRider11"]

Its different from alcohol because anything with alcohol in it can be taken responsibly and when you take weed, thats it your high and whacked out for a couple of hours. It would be more dangerous for someone who just had weed to be driving than a guy who had beer. And it distracts people from more important than will effect the US in bigger ways. Personally I'm not the one who needs to take drugs to feel better, i find better and healthier ways to do that.

MathMattS

Quite true. And I like what you said about not needing drugs to feel better. Nobody needs drugs to feel better.

I'm proud to be drug-free and proud to vote "No" on Prop 19.

I support it, despite the fact that its bad for my local economy.

htekemerald

[QUOTE="MathMattS"]

[QUOTE="ToastRider11"]

Its different from alcohol because anything with alcohol in it can be taken responsibly and when you take weed, thats it your high and whacked out for a couple of hours. It would be more dangerous for someone who just had weed to be driving than a guy who had beer. And it distracts people from more important than will effect the US in bigger ways. Personally I'm not the one who needs to take drugs to feel better, i find better and healthier ways to do that.

DarkBalta_basic

Quite true. And I like what you said about not needing drugs to feel better. Nobody needs drugs to feel better.

I'm proud to be drug-free and proud to vote "No" on Prop 19.

It sure does....if you drink alot.

One glass of beer will have very little to no affect on the average person. 1 joint will have an affect on most people.

[QUOTE="Stanley09"][QUOTE="huytttr"]no on 19. part of cali's $$ is coming from the medical legalization measures already put forth. if this passes the income from this is shattered. also the amount of money it takes to be able to cultivate and receive permit is ridiculous. and the corporations put forth because of this prop would start producing creating an loss of income. also the feds turning it down and blah blah blah..... i dont really care if its legalized, just the proposition has its flaws.Pixel-Pirate

I really don't agree with that. I'd rather have no law over a really bad law. Are people that desperate to be able to smoke pot without worrying about a 100 dollar fine?

Really I don't even understand how people get caught. Stop carrying it on you/smoking it in public. I don't know of many cases of cops breaking into someones house to arrest them for marijuana usage in their private residence.

Man, I guess marijuana DOES make you paranoid.

Ya.. its total BS. And don't be so passive about this stuff. This happens to plenty of decent/honest people who just enjoy getting high over getting drunk. And then our WAR ON DRUGS kicks in, tosses em in a cell for a few years with a felony record.. Cause they liked relaxing at night, watching movies with their girlfriend and being a little high.

Its nuts and needs to stop and there is no reason to be against stopping it. People who are against it are just ignorant of what the effects are.

[QUOTE="DarkBalta_basic"][QUOTE="MathMattS"]

Quite true. And I like what you said about not needing drugs to feel better. Nobody needs drugs to feel better.

I'm proud to be drug-free and proud to vote "No" on Prop 19.

Pixel-Pirate

It sure does....if you drink alot.

One glass of beer will have very little to no affect on the average person. 1 joint will have an affect on most people.

[QUOTE="magicalclick"]Time to get the next cool drug if you want to be cool.entropyecho

Which is?

Cocaine or Ecstasy

OT: If I lived in California I would vote against it simply because it deserves to be illegal.

[QUOTE="DarkBalta_basic"][QUOTE="MathMattS"]

Quite true. And I like what you said about not needing drugs to feel better. Nobody needs drugs to feel better.

I'm proud to be drug-free and proud to vote "No" on Prop 19.

Pixel-Pirate

It sure does....if you drink alot.

One glass of beer will have very little to no affect on the average person. 1 joint will have an affect on most people.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="DarkBalta_basic"] You guys have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to the effects of pot use. Everyone.. and not almost everyone, everyone I've ever spoken to that has smoked and drank agrees drinking causes much, much more dysfunction of your hand eye coordination and is less safe. Really, get out there and talk to people who have experienced both sides of this before you post useless stuff like this, all right?DarkBalta_basic

It sure does....if you drink alot.

One glass of beer will have very little to no affect on the average person. 1 joint will have an affect on most people.

I'd say the main difference is why would you even take a hit if you arn't trying to get high? Smoking it serves no purpouse other than the high it gives.

I drink beer because I like the taste. I get no affect from the alcohol nor do I wish to get drunk.

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

I support it, despite the fact that its bad for my local economy.

huytttr

[QUOTE="DarkBalta_basic"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

It sure does....if you drink alot.

One glass of beer will have very little to no affect on the average person. 1 joint will have an affect on most people.

Pixel-Pirate

I'd say the main difference is why would you even take a hit if you arn't trying to get high? Smoking it serves no purpouse other than the high it gives.

I drink beer because I like the taste. I get no affect from the alcohol nor do I wish to get drunk.

Results in yet?

Edit: I mean anything in from exit polls yet?

I am 100% for prop 19. It should have been decriminalized a long time ago.

I support it, but then again there are a few people who cant handle their usage of weed who will just become lazy, annoying parasites on the benefit, not that quite a few of those people are already, but these numbers may increase, this is mainly just a problem in younger people (14-20). A lot of them cant control their weed usage and such, I knew a few and just stopped hanging out with them cause its all they did. I mean if you use it moderately then it can be a great thing, just like alcohol and most drugs.

but other than those people who couldnt handle it, I'd be all for legalisation.

[QUOTE="DarkBalta_basic"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Quite true. And I like what you said about not needing drugs to feel better. Nobody needs drugs to feel better.

I'm proud to be drug-free and proud to vote "No" on Prop 19.

Pixel-Pirate

It sure does....if you drink alot.

One glass of beer will have very little to no affect on the average person. 1 joint will have an affect on most people.

Edit* im just saying the more experinced you are the more you can handle being high.

I'm for it.

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="ToastRider11"]

Its different from alcohol because anything with alcohol in it can be taken responsibly and when you take weed, thats it your high and whacked out for a couple of hours. It would be more dangerous for someone who just had weed to be driving than a guy who had beer. And it distracts people from more important than will effect the US in bigger ways. Personally I'm not the one who needs to take drugs to feel better, i find better and healthier ways to do that. ;)

Pixel-Pirate

If you get drunk, yeah. It has the potential to impair more than Marijuana.

However I'd say a guy who drank one beer is far far FAR less impaired than a guy who smoked one joint.

[QUOTE="entropyecho"]

[QUOTE="magicalclick"]Time to get the next cool drug if you want to be cool.deathtarget04

Which is?

Cocaine or Ecstasy

OT: If I lived in California I would vote against it simply because it deserves to be illegal.

Its different from alcohol because anything with alcohol in it can be taken responsibly and when you take weed, thats it your high and whacked out for a couple of hours. It would be more dangerous for someone who just had weed to be driving than a guy who had beer. And it distracts people from more important than will effect the US in bigger ways. Personally I'm not the one who needs to take drugs to feel better, i find better and healthier ways to do that. ;)

ToastRider11

I voted "No" on Proposition 19. To me, the bad outweighs the good. If Prop 19 passes, you'll have an entire wave of people driving high, partying high, and all sorts of other things you need a clear head for. If people drive drunk and party drunk, you can bet they'll drive high and party high. Kids can get ahold of alcohol with relative ease-- they'll be able to get ahold of marijuana with relative ease. Sorry, but pot is not the way to solve the state's financial problems.

MathMattS

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Waste of time and money and distracts from the real issues.Theokhoth

How is legalizing mairjuana a waste of time/money? :?

I'm against it, it's for bad people..Strider_91

[QUOTE="Strider_91"]I'm against it, it's for bad people..PannicAtack

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Strider_91"]I'm against it, it's for bad people..Strider_91

[QUOTE="Strider_91"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]So? So's a lot of things. At least if pot is legalized, there's less incentive and money to dangerous drug cartels.needled24-7

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

[QUOTE="Strider_91"] My comment isn't serious, i couldn't care less what drug people are stupid enough to use or whether its illegal or not It doesn't make a difference to me whether this passesStrider_91

[QUOTE="DarkBalta_basic"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

It sure does....if you drink alot.

One glass of beer will have very little to no affect on the average person. 1 joint will have an affect on most people.

Pixel-Pirate

I'd say the main difference is why would you even take a hit if you arn't trying to get high? Smoking it serves no purpouse other than the high it gives.

I drink beer because I like the taste. I get no affect from the alcohol nor do I wish to get drunk.

nobody is going to read that ^^

nobody is going to read that ^^

needled24-7